Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song Episode 9 Discussion

ysacci said:
As expected, this episode was great. I loved the animation of the action scenes and Matsumoto's tactics. Antonio and Ophelia's last moment did leave a hole in my heart, though. Beside that, I'm still a bit confused as to how or why Diva left. Was it because she fulfilled her mission, while Vivy has yet to do so?

Luthandorius said:
Co,mpared to the other episodes ... this one was pretty weak plot-wise. I'd say 2/4 (most others were 4 or so).

Not really interesting stuff - the author just made Divy lose memories of Vivy so he could fit in another arc that does not really seem to contribute a lot. (At least nothing major interesting.) Maybe to fill a few more episode.

Hopefully next episode will be better again.

Laplace_kun said:
Except for two fights that are worth all the awards, I didn't get any depth in the dual antagonists motivations. What did this change? Ophelia might not have committed suicide, but she terminated!
Not to mention an entire floor of a building went up in flames and there's no alert on the audience whose life might be in danger. Let's just guess the two complexes are far apart. Also sasuga levels of security for a futuristic world!
Again the same question, why would an AI like Antonio develop emotions like rage and possesiveness? What goes into their programming? And I thought the sister series are the special "emotional" ones... Who warned Toak humandroid 40 years prior? Is the process behind Judgement Day already on the move in the background, under someone's clandestine planning?

This episode raised too many questions, and I hope it's intentional.

ElPsyKongroo69 said:


Vivy backtracks too much on the way it wants to depict AI. Its very inconsistent. For me the only thing Vivy has over every other anime this season is its absolutely beautiful art and animation. The rest of the show is just above average.

Blue_Maroon said:


I have To Your Eternity in the tier below Vivy with 86, Tokyo Revengers, Odd Taxi, and Shadows House. Vivy has shown more than To Your Eternity has so far, which makes sense because one is a 13 episode series and the other has 13+ volumes of material.

Wew, this episode was packed to the brim with content, I struggled a good amount to keep up with all of it (I feel that the subtitles work didn't help in some parts) but after reading some comments and my own thinking it think I more or less get it. If anyone reads this and understood things better or has other views please feel free to say it, I love this show a lot and I want to be able to fully follow and understand it.

Anyways, first of all, yeah, absolutely amazing action scenes, WIT animators flexing hard, I love how they nail the fact that AIs are fighting each other via their robotic movement and their inexpressive reactions to damage.

Now to the themes as I think they meant... oh, Antonio... He knew Ophelia could perform way better than she did, but instead of keeping supporting her, his logical AI decision was to take over her body and just do the nice perfomances himself... but then he realized what he really wanted was to hear Ophelia singing, and that wasn't going to happen anymore.

Antonio ditched Ophelia, but Matsumoto didn't ditch Vivy despite her attitude and the risky, unnecesary to their objectives actions she did, unlike Antonio, he kept supporting her. That, and him getting upset over his mission being called "inferior" to Antonio's, realizing why Vivy was upset as well when he told him that to her are two big pieces of development and extra affection I feel towards his character, I freaking love Matsumoto.

Then we have Kakitani, he hated how humanity tried to make AIs be AIs by giving them a mission to follow as if they were a standard program, but they also lead them to do other reckless, not really a true part of their mission things in the process (like his piano teacher sacrificing himself... or well, Vivy and all the things she has done for the sake of making people keep living to hear her sing), not to mention the funeral thing he showed (they mourn over the death of an AI... and then proceed to show his last moments? Imagine doing that in a normal funeral). AIs are AIs or AIs are human too, no middle point. In the end he wanted to just understand what was going on in the head of the AIs as they were doing those actions, that's why he wanted to know that from Vivy so badly... and failed to get a proper reply.

Now what I'm curious about is "Kakitani's revelation", considering the technology ahead of its time he had, looks like there is someone else pulling the strings in everything going on that we aren't aware of yet, with 4 episodes left I guess we will get to see who that is very soon.

The virus Diva was hit with ended up deleting her personality, returning Vivy to the control. I don't understand yet the answer she showed to Vivy during her performance... maybe is just the happiness of the performance? How much she loved seeing the excited faces of the public, admiring her outstanding job there? Man I can't wait to see what happens next arc!

Zean_9435 said:
Why Ophelia/Antonio want to committee suicide again I still don't get it ?

Other then that this episode is fantastic the fight scene was mind blowing and R.I.P Diva ,

JuanlikesAnime said:
I didn't fully get who that person was who fought against Diva and what antonios real intentions were. Was it really just because he wanted her just to sing for him?

I would like to know since I really like this show but maybe I already forgot some important aspects which let me understand this episode. Can somebody please explain?

unafruta said:

Why is it inconsistent? I think that instead of repeating an established pattern, he uses his own way of thinking.

Its just that one episode AI seems to be more robotic and in another they're almost indistinguishable from humans. Also it's made to seem that the mission is the only reason for existence for AI but they're constantly finding loopholes and technicalities to do other things.

jujube_kun said:
Maaan Im really confused about this Kakitani guy now. Is he from future? Did. he. became an android or was he like that all along? I feel like I midden sth from previous episodes.