So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, just when you thought this show couldn't have more deadly characters, we are introduced to someone going by the name 'Nightmare'. I gotta say, the humans really had to watch out for themselves in that labyrinth. It's like they are on a mission to survive with those circumstances. |
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| It’s always hilarious to me how you have the contrast of the dire situation that schlain and co are in juxtaposed with Kumoko’s comedic situations. The floating head in this episode was hilarious lmao. Slowly but surely, the kumoko(past) and Schlain(present) storylines are starting to align. The vestiges clueing Schlain in on the fact she’s a reincarnation as well was cool. Then the dreams about Spooky, hopefully he’ll put it all together soon. I’m glad that this episode was mainly human focused. I think that’s when this series shines the brightest tbh. |
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| Next episode is going to be a banger again! Kumoko can damage even the demon lord with her other minds. Let's see what the Demon lord is going to do against her next episode. |
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| That was great, now the anime almost confirmed who is Kumoko in the present timeline and the nature of the maou sama girl, it's getting more and more interesting, well most of the episode was focused on the human but it was still really tense especially for what happened to Schlain, at least they escaped from the labyrinth. |
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| Fei fucking decked that dragon lol. One puunnnccchh. All those eyes were terrifying honestly. |
| So Ariel's offspring are the spiders huh curious. When in confines spaces one's sense of time can be quite difficult to judge. It pays to have someone that's able to keep track of this and plan accordingly. The monsters are after all only one aspect of the danger that adventurers face. The nightmare though is an interesting monster. The battle with the earth dragon though really showed just how much Schlain had grown since his brothers passing. The nightmare's entry though sure was chilling. Having a dragon of their own really is a great shortcut. Kumoko chilling with just a head though was pretty amusing. Overall a pretty interesting ep that while doing well in showcasing how much Schlain had grown physically and mentally also did well to set the scene for the demon invasion. Ariel though is getting more and more interesting every time she appears. Curious whether Kumoko's hypothesis of her being mothers boss correct though. |
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| I love how Kumoko was talking to herself in the ocean with her head floating like that. LMAO On the other hand, the humans have started to walk through the labyrinth, and Schlain having those weird nightmares was pretty odd. The timelines are finally making sense now. But, it's a pretty dangerous place for them. They gotta be careful around there. The next episode is gonna be interesting. |
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Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, just when you thought this show couldn't have more deadly characters, we are introduced to someone going by the name 'Nightmare'. I gotta say, the humans really had to watch out for themselves in that labyrinth. It's like they are on a mission to survive with those circumstances. You've watched 17 episodes and still haven't caught on to the fact the "nightmare" they are referring to is Kumoko?????????????????? |
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| The mystery intensifies, Shun's dreams and the voices of those nightmare were creepy af. Also lol Kumoko got in the bad side of the demon lord, RIP. |
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| Damn. The nightmare’s vestiges scene was as chilling as in the LN, good job on the voices. Really loved this episode, it felt like a proper adventure. And more mystery of course |
Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, just when you thought this show couldn't have more deadly characters, we are introduced to someone going by the name 'Nightmare'. I gotta say, the humans really had to watch out for themselves in that labyrinth. It's like they are on a mission to survive with those circumstances. Kumoko IS the Nightmare of the Labyrinth, remember how their timelines are different? Kumoko is 15 years in the past, Shun is in the "present", that old guide mentioned some of the feats Kumoko did like healing people in need and not attacking people unless they attack her first. |
| My favourite part was when the Body parallel mind invaded the mind of the Demon Lord, it seemed like she looked at the Demon Lord and before she could react she could have said "too slow punk" |
| I think Kumo's only option is to fight if she comes face to face with that Demon Lord. |
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| If anything, DO NOT MISS both the pre and post-credit's intents: The Demon Lord definitely is the Mother (Origin) of the spiders, even higher than Mother a.k.a Queen Taratect that Kumoko was referring to. But from the looks of it, Kumoko is IN FACT the main body of Mother, coupled with the "immortality" act, this'll only ensue that the mystery lurks deeper for those not in the know. Of course, Shun and Co. in the Great Elroe Labyrinth whereras Kumoko's head is just floating in the sea, what a disparity. The myth of the Nightmare (which obviously was Kumoko of the future) may be hard to believe that it exists, but nonetheless it still remains as a viable threat from the humans' perspective (at least for Basgath who've seen it all with the Vestiges). Unsurprisingly, the monsters that Kumoko left behind, Shun and Co. are left to fend with the lefftovers of Kumoko's attacks from monsters (e.g. the earth dragon). The Nightmare's Vestiges...dare I say give the Administrator D feel with those hallucinating voices. Add in Shun's nightmares about Spooky a.k.a Kumoko, and I'm looking forward to the day when both of their timelines converge. Kumoko this episode literally is just scarred with her head intact, that's kinda funny with Aoi Yuuki's monologue. The snitch with getting on the Demon Lord's bad side, RIP Kumoko, you'd better find ways to survive. |
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| The floating head was so hilarious. xD Poor Kumoko. |
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| So Kumoko successfully managed to take over the Demon Lord's body? I mean her personality in the present seems similar to hers and what's more, the lady in white, whom I thought was Kumoko seems like an empty shell. Or the Demon Lord kept control which seems more likely. The line at the beginning of the episode "Though I can remember one who wasn't quite so obedient" suggests that Kumoko eventually gave in. Well, I guess we will get definite answers sooner or later. I also want to learn more about D. Such an enjoyable episode again. Immortal Kumoko floating in the ocean, tho xD |
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| Good stuff. expired_0 said: Didn't you just hear the old man? Run away and live to fight another day.I think Kumo's only option is to fight if she comes face to face with that Demon Lord. (Spoiler - not so obvious - content that was skipped) |
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poisonedbite said: Ah OK, thanks for the clarification.KANLen09 said: If anything,Kumoko is IN FACT the main body of Mother, coupled with the "immortality" Add in Shun's nightmares about Spooky a.k.a Kumoko, and I'm looking forward to the day when both of their timelines converge. 1 - No, she's killing mother. 2 - That's...also very wrong. Besides the very stupid translation of Rihoko to "Spooky", She's Shouko Negishi, aka Sophia Keren. The vampire girl. Looks like everyone's getting confused by the way that the anime is merging timeines, only source readers will know what's what. |
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| Any light novel reader please clear my confusion from this episode that 1. is Ariel is mother of Kumoko??? Or Ariel is a Mother of mother of Kumoko i.e Grandmother of kumoko?? 2. If nightmare here is Kumoko then who is Queen taratect??? Is she is Ariel or Mother of Kumoko 3. If Ariel is mother of mother of Kumoko then why in the end they showed that parallel Wills of Kumoko are attacking Ariel because parallel Will's of Kumoko was attacking kumoko's mother!!! Sorry for bad English 😅 |
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gaulby said: This is understandable, and I wholly agree with what you said. Would rather just wait until everything converges together to see the entire picture.KANLen09 said: Ah OK, thanks for the clarification. Looks like everyone's getting confused by the way that the anime is merging timeines, only source readers will know what's what. The LN pretty much did the same, and pretty much everything made so much sense when the timeline merged. Most were a bit frustrated about the story-telling format of Kumo at the start since it's Kumo and Human side. Most doesn't really care for the human side at the beginning. But as the story goes, the human side makes sense. And plot Anime-onlys seems to be slowly understanding that it as far as I observed here in the forums. So it's really just a matter of time before everything falls into place. SolidusDiabolos said: So you're saying that there's more deception to come?KANLen09 said: Looks like everyone's getting confused by the way that the anime is merging timeines, only source readers will know what's what. Timelines should be the most minor of concerns, it becomes apparent very early on that Kumoko and Human Side are ~15 years apart. What many simply did not expect is that someone is actually good at deception, presenting red herrings and chekhov's guns alike. Don't expect those to be the last of 'em. |
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sujal06 said: Any light novel reader please clear my confusion from this episode that 1. is Ariel is mother of Kumoko??? Or Ariel is a Mother of mother of Kumoko i.e Grandmother of kumoko?? 2. If nightmare here is Kumoko then who is Queen taratect??? Is she is Ariel or Mother of Kumoko 3. If Ariel is mother of mother of Kumoko then why in the end they showed that parallel Wills of Kumoko are attacking Ariel because parallel Will's of Kumoko was attacking kumoko's mother!!! Sorry for bad English 😅 Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeMay 11, 2021 2:27 PM
| @uncleqrow and @giovgiac Thanks both of you for clearing my doubts |
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| Nice episode and all but quick question. What/Who the hell are the "Nightmare Vestiges"? Are they Kumeko's offspring? If it were, did it mean Kumeko mated? What is going on here. Thanks in advance. Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, just when you thought this show couldn't have more deadly characters, we are introduced to someone going by the name 'Nightmare'. I gotta say, the humans really had to watch out for themselves in that labyrinth. It's like they are on a mission to survive with those circumstances. It was pretty obviously stated that Kumeko is the "Nightmare of the Labyrinth" Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeMay 11, 2021 2:28 PM
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| The floating head was really funny lmao. Schlain's convo with the other spiders was crazy.. The repeating words sounded scary as hell. Great episode! |
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KANLen09 said: Ah OK, thanks for the clarification. Looks like everyone's getting confused by the way that the anime is merging timeines, only source readers will know what's what. Nah, your theories are fine. IMO whoever just points the pieces you and other new fans have missed are killjoys! The confusion is intended and also present on the LN, although some pieces of the puzzle have been presented in a different way here, I don't think they removed anything major from the main mystery. It still happens even on recent volumes. You're reading something inconspicuous when suddenly "wait, what?", and you have to check something a couple volumes back just to realize something you'd already ruled as an overlooked loose end or an unimportant red herring is actually fundamental puzzle piece that not only fits perfectly, but also changes your perspective on the big picture. It's true that Spooky's identity have been presented on the anime already, but mainly because some info have been shuffled around. On the LN Sofia's identity is revealed only later, thus, one could draw this same mistaken conclusion that Rihoko (spooky) is the MC from reading the LN version of that dream. In fact, I'm pretty sure they didn't change anything on the scene banking on spectators that just like yourself, have missed the reveal (Also because there's more to that scene than one might've easily missed at first :p) |
anstar019 said: SaintZeph said: Nice episode and all but quick question. What/Who the hell are the "Nightmare Vestiges"? Are they Kumeko's offspring? If it were, did it mean Kumeko mated? What is going on here. Thanks in advance. vestiges mean parts SO Nightmare vestiges mean nightmare parts or nightmare offsprings, so they are Kumo's children. Their mother(KUMO) was reincarnation and she most probably taught them how to differentiate reincar people. Yeah, but how are they born? |
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| The bit with the Vestiges was super creepy for me, I liked it a lot and that ending was pretty hype, even Ariel has to be careful about Kumoko's mental abilities. |
| That earth dragon looked surprisingly good tbh. Did they draw by hand on a CG model or just reworked their regular CGI? |
| WTF was this sh!t?!? After being so hyped for the biggest fight yet, instead we got... this??? |
| So what did we learn? Schlain is just an useless dumb idiot who is all talk. At the start of the episode he was like "I dont think I can run while others are endangering their lives". But at the end of the episode he would have been the reason every one would have got massacred . I dont know whats with the dragons human form. It looks fine at first glance but when you take a close look it is so freaking funny. Wonder what will happen to the Maou!! Kumoko having a beach vacation while those boring humans finally managed to escape the labyrinth. |
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Rarkis said: The most fun read comment I've received to clear all this whoopla, thanks friend for the information.KANLen09 said: Ah OK, thanks for the clarification. Looks like everyone's getting confused by the way that the anime is merging timeines, only source readers will know what's what. Nah, your theories are fine. IMO whoever just points the pieces you and other new fans have missed are killjoys! The confusion is intended and also present on the LN, although some pieces of the puzzle have been presented in a different way here, I don't think they removed anything major from the main mystery. It still happens even on recent volumes. You're reading something inconspicuous when suddenly "wait, what?", and you have to check something a couple volumes back just to realize something you'd already ruled as an overlooked loose end or an unimportant red herring is actually fundamental puzzle piece that not only fits perfectly, but also changes your perspective on the big picture. It's true that Spooky's identity have been presented on the anime already, but mainly because some info have been shuffled around. On the LN Sofia's identity is revealed only later, thus, one could draw this same mistaken conclusion that Rihoko (spooky) is the MC from reading the LN version of that dream. In fact, I'm pretty sure they didn't change anything on the scene banking on spectators that just like yourself, have missed the reveal (Also because there's more to that scene than one might've easily missed at first :p) Hit me up, because I feel like I'm missing vital information! |
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