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Mar 25, 2021 12:39 PM
#51
This season was a fantastic upgrade. Way darker, way more engaging, i just couldn't wait for the next episode to come out! We found out about Tem's killer, we dived way deeper into the ways of the carnivores, we also got to follow Louis' new lifestyle.. And last but not least, we got to witness more Legoshi development, absolutely loved his determination to pull out Louis from that darkness. We got it all. Just like the first season, the development was top notch, im completely satisfied! And i never expected Legoshi to eat Louis' foot :o what a scene that was! 9/10 for this season as well, bring out the 3rd one! ^^ |
WaterLordMar 25, 2021 12:49 PM
Mar 25, 2021 12:44 PM
#52
Mar 25, 2021 1:03 PM
#53
Mar 25, 2021 1:38 PM
#54
Don't know how to feel about this finale. Felt it had some good ideas but the execution was lacking. Overall it had some moments just as good as season 1 but too many issues in comparison. S1 a 10/10 this at a 9/10. I'll read the manga. |
Mar 25, 2021 2:02 PM
#55
"Something is pouring out of me" "Disgusting..." "Louis, I can feel a part of you overflowing inside of me" Okay Louis and Legoshi, you both are not in a hentai, you're in the final episode of Beastars 2. But jokes aside, I really found that funny. This ending was not as hard-hitting as I thought it would. But I can tell that this feels like an ending, and if they don't want to make a 3rd season of Beastars, then this will be somewhat of a satisfying open ending that I can take. I can't believe that Louis lets Legoshi eat his foot, which means Legoshi is not a vegetarian anymore. Also it's weird yet amusing to see them stop their fight from time to time, yet it kinda breaks off the tension that was set up at the beginning of the episode. Also the ending feels a bit lacking, yeah they explain what happened to them afterwards, and Louis and Haru had their scene at the end, but I'm just not that satisfied with the ending. Also RIP Ibuki, sad he had to die off like that. Overall still a 9/10, but definitely weaker than the first. Hope we do get that Season 3 though. |
Mar 25, 2021 2:13 PM
#56
Is this the end? It feels unfinished for some kind of reason. Good season thought, I enjoyed it a lot |
Mar 25, 2021 2:35 PM
#57
I went ahead and read this part in the manga after last weeks episode, but it didn't diminish my enjoyment of this great episode. Captivating confrontation between Legosi and Riz. Haven't seen anything quite like this before. Killing him softly, Legosi did it. My only gripe is that this could've been easily a 29min or maybe even double length episode. But amazing season overall. ttcchen said: They've cut out lots of content this season, but overall it's pretty great. They managed to rearrange and cut scenes in a way that flows well and makes sense. The changes in dialogues also fits the anime version of the story, and the end of this episode summarized the scenes it skipped pretty well. I like how Louis offering his leg to Legosi alludes to episode 1 of season 1 when he pulled Legosi by his tie and said "If I offer my leg to you, you'd drool and happily accept my request" (or something like that). It sucks that Ibuki has to die so Louis has a reason to quit the Shishigumi (since one of his underling tried to eat him so he's forced to leave) If you like this season and want a fuller experience (and see what content they skipped), read the manga starting from Chapter 54. By the way, season 1 also skipped and changed lots of stuff (after all, they're stuffing 100 chapters into 2 cours (24 episodes) so there're bound to be lots of stuff cut out), so if I were you I'd read from Chapter 1. The manga is way crazier than the anime imo. Anyway, onto the things changed/deleted. I'll also spoil Legosi's backstory that was cut out since a season 3 wasn't announced: 1. During the Ibuki and Louis scene, we had a flashback to them eating at a restaurant. Louis was openly eating veges now and Ibuki questioned why he's not hiding it anymore, and Louis said because Ibuki wasn't hiding his love for deer meat, so as long as Ibuki's eating his favorite, Louis will eat his favorite. Louis said he doesn't want any lies getting in the way of their friendship. 2. The lighting in the panel for when Ibuki attacked Louis and got shot was ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. Y'all really should check it out for yourself (chapter 92) 3. After getting shot, we see a flashback of Ibuki telling Free to load his gun with only 1 round so he can shoot him. In the anime, Louis told Ibuki that he wants to quit AFTER they got in the car, so it wouldn't make sense to include this scene since Ibuki wouldn't have known about it beforehand. But in the manga it makes sense why Free showed up and shot Ibuki. 4. Free drove Louis to the main street afterwards, telling him not to come back to the Black Market ever again cause if he did and got himself killed here, then Ibuki would have died for nothing. And if Free ever sees Louis here, then he won't hesitate to eat him, and Louis agreed. 5. When Riz said Legosi is too hard he meant his bone is hard to bite apart 6. In the anime it wasn't that obvious but the golden shimmering things Riz saw were moths and in the manga Legosi himself turned into moths 7. When Legosi lay down in the middle of the battle, he's exposing his stomach which carnivores only do sleeping with their family and their lover, so it totally confused Riz as to what Legosi was trying to do (he's stalling time to catch his breath). Legosi was also taking a gamble since it's hard to jump back into a fighting position from that stance so he's lucky Riz didn't choose to attack him. 8. When Louis appeared, Riz didn't charge towards him. Instead, Legosi used the chance of Riz turning his head to look at Louis behind him to throw his jacket at Riz and kick him, blocking his view while he took Louis and ran away (the train masked their footsteps) 9. Riz was kicking pebbles on the ground while waiting for Legosi. Then Legosi arrived and Riz said it's been 15 minutes and he gave him plenty of time to talk to Louis cause he knew Legosi wouldn't run away 10. Fun fact: after Legosi ate Louis' leg and fought Riz and thought about Louis, flashback!Louis said "Hey Legosi, are you trying to reduce me to a flashback character?" and real!Louis said "I'm alive, you dumb dog." I just thought that's pretty funny lol 11. Okay onto the entire aftermath of the fight that was summarized in the anime: Before Louis could say what he said to Riz, the police arrived after Pina called them. They forced Riz onto the ground, then Louis said his thing. Pina was so confused by the situation and he wondered if he shouldn't have called the police. One officer pointed his gun at Legosi and told him to put his hands up, but Legosi was supporting Louis and if he let go of his arm, Louis would fall, so Legosi just froze but the officer thought he was taking Louis hostage. Then Legosi licked his bloody face, which made the situation worse, and Louis put up his own hand for Legosi, who told him not to cause he's a victim and doing so would confuse the police. Louis said he's trying to show them that he's friends with Legosi so they don't put him in prison, plus Legosi is the real victim since Louis forced him to eat his foot, and Legosi said he doesn't mind being Louis' assailant. One officer told Legosi not to worry cause he could tell there's more to this than meets the eye. On the stretcher, Louis said "I'll be seeing you at school. That's a promise" and Legosi nodded. But sadly their roles have changed, now Legosi is the one quitting school while Louis is the one returning to school. For the 2-Day Detention afterwards, Legosi drank 3 liters of laxatives to get Louis’ leg out of his system and he wasn’t charged since Louis, Pina, and Riz all proved his innocence. Normally, they wouldn’t give him a criminal record for a simple misdemeanor, but what Legosi did made him a “Predatorial Offender” (think of it like a sex offender). It'll be hard for him to be accepted into unsegregated colleges, he might not be allowed to attend and take college entrance exams, finding work will be hard since most companies now are owned by herbivores, and he won't be allowed to marry a herbivore (let alone touch one). Out of all these listed, it was the last one that elicited a reaction out of Legosi. The officer was so worried he thought Legosi was poisoned lol. Then, Legosi went and did some research on interspecies marriage hoping to find a loophole for him to marry Haru, but there aren’t many materials on interspecies marriage. He found that the following interspecies marriages aren’t allowed: land and sea animal, poisonous and non-poisonous animal (PS: look at Legosi’s backstory below), and predatorial offenders and herbivores. He went to find Haru in her house and then took her out to talk to her. He wants to touch her but can’t, and Haru didn’t know why she just thought he’s being a wuss. Also, Haru’s family thought her bf is a dwarf rabbit and then Legosi showed up lol. We see she has an older brother and an older sister. 12. Now, onto Legosi’s backstory: When Riz and Legosi were fighting in the shower room and Legosi said "The only way you can break the special wall...is through love." He thought "Why am I only figuring this out now? This is what you were trying to each me... This was your kindness..." and we see a flashback of little Legosi calling "Grandpa". Then we're introduced to his grandpa Gosha, a Komodo Dragon: His grandpa, Gosha, fell in love with a female wolf and they gave birth to a female wolf who later had Legosi with another wolf, so Legosi is 1/4th reptilian (and since a Komodo Dragon's blood and saliva are poisonous, we can assume Legosi inherited some of that, which explains why Riz had that weird hallucination after biting Legosi's side this episode). Little Legosi was sitting with Gosha right after his mom's funeral, and Gosha smiled and asked Legosi to live with him but Legosi rejected him outright yelling "How can you look so happy? Your daughter went through so much pain... Do you even care? My mom killed herself because of..." We see Gosha looking extremely sad and hurt by this, and then the scene cuts to teen Legosi thinking "I'm sorry, grandpa," which shows how he only just realized that the wall between species can been broken by love (him being a wolf and his grandpa being a reptile) and he's regretting being so harsh on his grandpa, who was obviously hiding his pain after the funeral and putting on a smile for his sake. After the fight, he went to Gouhin, and he thought Gouhin reminds him of Gosha. And right before the final fight, he thought "If I live through this year... I'm going to pay a visit to grandpa. I want to know how he, a Komodo Dragon, ended up falling in love with my gray wolf grandma. I also want to tell him that I'm in love with a rabbit and that I'm pretty much following his footsteps in screwing up our family tree. I'm going to have a heart-to-heart with my grandpa." At Legosi’s mom’s funeral, people were wondering why she killed herself when she was the popular idol back when she was in school, and she’s been acting strange ever since she got married. Legosi left in the middle of the funeral so Jack went to find him and that’s when Legosi revealed his secret (1/4 reptile) to Jack. And now, while writing his weekly letter to his family, Jack thought Legosi should do the same. A few episodes back (the one where in the spoiler I talked about Gouhin paying Legosi who rejected the money thinking it’s dirty), Legosi said his mom died and his dad passed away when he was 12. He was raised by his grandpa but he doesn’t have fond memories of him. We see Legosi writing a letter to his grandpa (with Jack’s help) cause he hasn’t spoken to him in 5 years so calling him all of a sudden is awkward. Jack had enough of this so he called Gosha for him. Legosi thought Gosha probably already forgotten about him, but Gosha recognized his voice immediately and Legosi nearly broke into tears hearing his voice, feeling guilty. He questioned himself why he always feels prejudice towards his own grandpa who raised him, and how he’s such a terrible grandson. He told Gosha he wants to send over some money he earned from his part-time job to support Gosha. While before, he hates his grandpa for being a different species, now he wants to be even closer to Gosha because he’s a different species (to break the special wall). PS: A few episodes ago after Legosi was attacked by Riz and he ended up kissing him and running away to Gouhin, he was riding the Reptile car in the train since he’s covered in blood and reptiles don’t have a good sense of smell. I like this little foreshadowing of his reptilian blood. Season 2 ends on Chapter 96. If you're a big fan then it's definitely worth it to pick up the manga from the beginning |
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Mar 25, 2021 3:56 PM
#58
ttcchen said: Anyway, onto the things changed/deleted. I'll also spoil Legosi's backstory that was cut out since a season 3 wasn't announced: His grandpa, Gosha, fell in love with a female wolf and they gave birth to a female wolf who later had Legosi with another wolf, so Legosi is 1/4th reptilian (and since a Komodo Dragon's blood and saliva are poisonous, we can assume Legosi inherited some of that, which explains why Riz had that weird hallucination after biting Legosi's side this episode). lol I'm sorry. Wut? That's sounds so silly and ridiculous. Like, I thought that kind of breeding was only reserved for Pokémon. |
Mar 25, 2021 4:36 PM
#59
Excellent season, loved it so far as it truly brought a different set of emotions & intruigues. Most of the new main characters (or continuously main ones) were interesting, even if I regret that Louis ha to quit the Leo Group, especially after provoking Ribuki's death. Don't know if a third season will ever come up, but I'm still glad to have watched both the first and second ones |
Mar 25, 2021 4:39 PM
#60
After all that training to control his preparator urges and he just straight up eats the leg of Louis, even with permission it makes the whole season of his training with the panda pointless to me. Then he wants to hide everything from Haru. Great relationship tactic, hide things from your partner. Louis and the lions far better part of this season than Legoshi imo. That showdown at the end was stupid as well. What would Legoshi have done if that bear lost it and ate someone else because he wanted a shounen duel to "settle things" instead of the sensible thing of going to the police. Which they both ended up being arrested at the end anyway! Ugh. |
Mar 25, 2021 5:07 PM
#61
Though I liked first season more, This was also pretty great. they could have give a little bit more to the ending. I wish this gets a 3rd season (though chances are pretty low) |
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Mar 25, 2021 5:47 PM
#62
They really pulled a Gintama by playing the ed at the start. Nice. Legosi fighting is always nice too and it was a decent way to conclude the season |
Mar 25, 2021 5:55 PM
#63
I loved this season, Beastars is perfect. I need to put my laziness aside and read the manga. |
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Mar 25, 2021 5:55 PM
#64
the ending seemed so rushed and wtf was that ending anyways... lit ate his friends leg for support and didt kill the mf bear omfg. hopefully the ending of other anime in the winter 2021 category makeup for this horrible one |
Mar 25, 2021 5:58 PM
#65
I loved this season. So much character development for Legosi, Louis and Ibuki. Good action scenes and the best part is that we had almost no Haru in this season. |
Mar 25, 2021 6:11 PM
#66
Hopefully the franchise end here Nobody wants s3, the rest of the manga is utter trash |
Mar 25, 2021 6:11 PM
#67
Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. |
Mar 25, 2021 6:27 PM
#68
This was such a fantastic season. 9/10 easily. Better than first season too. Only complaint is that the last fight could have been better or more tense after he ate the leg but it ended in a bit anti climatic way. Excluding this it was a fantastic watch from first episode up till this. Interesting how the story goes on from there. |
Mar 25, 2021 6:47 PM
#69
Mar 25, 2021 7:50 PM
#70
Even now, this project continues to impress. It says Legoshi is 187cm/6'1" and 77kg/169lbs, pretty under weight for someone that tall, normally. (BMI=BS) It took into account his training. That's attention to detail, people. |
Mar 25, 2021 8:13 PM
#71
I liked this fight episode because is anime realistically. Legosi just there like when you are laid down talking to a friend,while the friend do a monologue. And when Legosi and Louis are having the pep talk, Riz knows that they are on the bridge,but let them have their time. |
Mar 25, 2021 9:20 PM
#72
I wanna cry this was so beautiful. I hope Legoshi gets the credit of being a Beastar at least. He did do what they wanted. I loved this season and how it ended. |
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Mar 25, 2021 9:22 PM
#73
Karysuuwu said: Killing Riz would have been worse. LOL! Why the hell would do that? The goal was to bring him to justice not kill him. the ending seemed so rushed and wtf was that ending anyways... lit ate his friends leg for support and didt kill the mf bear omfg. hopefully the ending of other anime in the winter 2021 category makeup for this horrible one |
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Mar 25, 2021 9:26 PM
#74
gswelcome said: It doesn't make it pointless though. Louis told him the truth and you can tell with his body Legoshi wasn't going to win that fight without getting some real beef. The show makes it quite clear not eating the food you're suppose to eat is going to fuck you. Louis nearly died because he was eating meat for example. After all that training to control his preparator urges and he just straight up eats the leg of Louis, even with permission it makes the whole season of his training with the panda pointless to me. Then he wants to hide everything from Haru. Great relationship tactic, hide things from your partner. Louis and the lions far better part of this season than Legoshi imo. That showdown at the end was stupid as well. What would Legoshi have done if that bear lost it and ate someone else because he wanted a shounen duel to "settle things" instead of the sensible thing of going to the police. Which they both ended up being arrested at the end anyway! Ugh. Also that's in character for Legoshi because he is a nervous wreck around Haru. He doesn't think she can handle some of the shit he has been through. Wil she even believe them? You gotta think about that before you bash his approach. Lastly, Legoshi is honorable. He wanted to do up front. Besides he calls the cops, he is going to need proof that it is Riz. What is going to tell the cops? "Yo the brown bear ate this dude who died months ago." This is before Riz decided to rough up Pina mind you. So yeah... I'm not saying you're wrong but offering some counter points. |
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Mar 25, 2021 9:49 PM
#75
What was that ending to Beastars season 2 I'm Conflicted i understand Riz realizing what he was doing was fucked and his friendship in the end was him being a monster and Louis realizing what he is his mistakes and accepting who he is because he can't change what he is but i am confused about Legoshi was it excepting who he his whilst trying to protect others.What was the point in all that training.Wtf. |
Mar 25, 2021 10:04 PM
#76
Ending reeks of immaturity for such a wonderful show. I enjoyed all the episodes but last. Ending was not at all thrilling both psychologically and philosophically, I was expecting something better. |
Mar 25, 2021 10:34 PM
#77
There's no way a wolf was going to beat a bear with without some cheating, in this case eating the meat. For the greater good Legoshi had to do the sacrifice, otherwise he knew very well from the start he was mostly dying anyway. This wasn't the problem, the problem is the fight after that was anti climatic and ended rapidly and suddenly. But it's a small problem in an overall great season. The only thing I think the first season did better than this one is the climax as the final conflict was done nicely in season one. |
Mar 25, 2021 10:37 PM
#78
Bio said: Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. Pretty sure Legoshi wouldn't have agreed to use the gun though. He wanted to defeat him hand to hand. |
Mar 25, 2021 11:03 PM
#79
This was such a beautiful anime and a perfect sequel of Beastars.. i am most likely gonna read manga from the start.. thanks to TTcchan for keeping us uptodate of all the things that manga skipped but guess its probably better to manga a try.. Loved the interactions of Legosi and Riz.. this wasn't yer avg protaganist/antaganist fight imo.. just two teenagers proving each other wrong with their instincts.. 2 goof balls who can't argue so they are now forced to use their fangs and claws and it was beautiful.. was worried that Legosi might die but this turn of events was a lot better.. Legosi trying to be less and less carnivore would've obviously fired back but Louis senpai is there to help! :) |
Mar 25, 2021 11:40 PM
#80
I really loved this season but the only problem was the time given to the show. If they had just 1-2 more episodes that could've been used to build up the dynamic of ibuki and Louis the scene would've hit way harder like when reading the manga did. And if the ending sequence was given more time all the meanings and themes would've convoluted more smoothly. Basically from the start this show was cursed with the 12 episode season given the material it had to cover from the manga but otherwise orange actually did a pretty good job with pacing with what they were given. I still give this show a 10/10 because my only complaint is that it's missing the depth I know exists. |
Mar 26, 2021 12:17 AM
#81
The second season got all that I could wish for from the setting. It seemed darker, while diving deeper into the gloomy side of a carnivore/herbivore society. So I was really excited about the tension increasingly building up in a pretty promising way for a solid ending. But the conclusion I saw instead left me trying to convince myself that it was actually worth all the character's blood, sweat and tears rather than just turning the poor bear in to the police at the very beginning {: Totally agree with the remarks about the lack of emphasis and far-fetched logic in the last ep. Though I am in love with the main plot messages, ideologies and dilemmas. Can't even complain about Haru dwelling on the outskirts of the script this time,'cause the season was overall still very enjoyable. |
Mar 26, 2021 12:19 AM
#82
Mar 26, 2021 12:46 AM
#83
Cinematography was always impressive but this last episode was just a step above it all. |
Mar 26, 2021 1:51 AM
#84
I could fap to buffed Legosi all day! I only allow Louis senpai to enjoy Legosi's body (because Thanks to Louis's leg, Legosi get buffed), but everybody else, including Haru, Jack, Juno, Pina, please stay away from my Legosi!!! |
Mar 26, 2021 6:33 AM
#85
el3mel said: Bio said: Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. Pretty sure Legoshi wouldn't have agreed to use the gun though. He wanted to defeat him hand to hand. He also really, reeeeeally didn't want to eat herbivores. Breaking on that before breaking on his carnivore to carnivore fight needed more justification. |
Mar 26, 2021 7:37 AM
#86
Bio said: el3mel said: Bio said: Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. Pretty sure Legoshi wouldn't have agreed to use the gun though. He wanted to defeat him hand to hand. He also really, reeeeeally didn't want to eat herbivores. Breaking on that before breaking on his carnivore to carnivore fight needed more justification. Depends on what he sees fit for cheating. I think he wanted to defeat him hand to hand without using firepower. |
Mar 26, 2021 7:49 AM
#87
Adampk said: Though I liked first season more, This was also pretty great. they could have give a little bit more to the ending. I wish this gets a 3rd season (though chances are pretty low) I don't think they're "pretty low". The first season was a huge success on Netflix last year, even people who don't usually watch animes have watched it because its animal aspect was more appealing to a wider Western audience (thanks to Disney) than other more Japanese-looking animes. Once S2 comes out in July on Netflix for the rest of the world I can see it reaching the same level of success that S1 had or even surpassing it, and after that there could be a S3 announcement at some point in the future. I know the manga ended last year (even though Paru was still making chapters of Beast Complex during S2's run, which is a spin off series) but if the show continues to be very successful even worldwide then I can't see them not wanting to make anything else for it ever again. |
KetrodMar 26, 2021 7:53 AM
Mar 26, 2021 8:06 AM
#88
el3mel said: Bio said: el3mel said: Bio said: Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. Pretty sure Legoshi wouldn't have agreed to use the gun though. He wanted to defeat him hand to hand. He also really, reeeeeally didn't want to eat herbivores. Breaking on that before breaking on his carnivore to carnivore fight needed more justification. Depends on what he sees fit for cheating. I think he wanted to defeat him hand to hand without using firepower. I don't disagree. The objectively stupid fight was about proving his ideals and reforming Riz through them. Just getting rid of Riz would have involved the police immediately. But the situation we get to is Legosi is about to die and compromises himself to avoid it. Choosing to compromise by warping the ideal he's fighting for rather than giving up on it winning a physical fight is weird, and it's also weird that Louis would feel the same. There's the makings of the argument in Legosi's respect for the consumed insect life and Louis starting to like carnivores and joining themselves by eating Louis' curse, but it's a hard sell after the messages of the past two seasons and needed a longer treatment than this episode. |
Mar 26, 2021 8:08 AM
#89
Ketrod said: Adampk said: Though I liked first season more, This was also pretty great. they could have give a little bit more to the ending. I wish this gets a 3rd season (though chances are pretty low) I don't think they're "pretty low". The first season was a huge success on Netflix last year, even people who don't usually watch animes have watched it because its animal aspect was more appealing to a wider Western audience (thanks to Disney) than other more Japanese-looking animes. Once S2 comes out in July on Netflix for the rest of the world I can see it reaching the same level of success that S1 had or even surpassing it, and after that there could be a S3 announcement at some point in the future. I know the manga ended last year (even though Paru was still making chapters of Beast Complex during S2's run, which is a spin off series) but if the show continues to be very successful even worldwide then I can't see them not wanting to make anything else for it ever again. Actually beastar season 1 ending was kind of aimed at having a season 2. So I suspect beastar was actually a 24 episode season with a pre-planned 2nd season as second cour. I have heard that the dvd sales were not good for season 1. At beastar season 2 ending nothing was announced as of yet, plus manga is already completed. They even removed future content titbits from this season to make it a good place to end. even orange studio is quite a small studio with lack of history of making multiple season So... Anyways even I also hope there is a season 3 |
AdampkMar 26, 2021 8:13 AM
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Mar 26, 2021 8:11 AM
#90
Bio said: el3mel said: Bio said: el3mel said: Bio said: Shiro-cat said: Ruckle said: One of the trashiest endings I've ever seen. All of the characters decisions completely out of place. same. Last episode just didn't make sense, or maybe I just didnt focus enough to pick symbolics or whatever? Like why exactly Ibuki had to die, why Legoshi was so stupid to ask Louis to come watch his fight (so Riz could eat him too?). Why in all previous episodes they made huge meaning that not eating meat can make you strong too, while in last they all forgot about it and Legoshi immediately got super strong and muscled just bc of one leg? So why in black market no one is like that too? Because they don't know true meaning of meat? That made training with panda just pointless. And Louis giving his leg was just random and Legoshi quickly jumping for it (he was so against eating any meat before) was stupid and pointless if they just went to police anyway. I just dont like how author or producers (because i dont know if any of these were explained or described in more details in manga) made this episode so full of plotholes Also why that other lion was so quick to jump to let Louis leave mafia? They were so into idea of him being their boss, Louis too - we got to watch him develop there for like 10 episodes and then he just quit in one minute and everyone were happy for him to do that. Bromance between Legoshi and Louis was also a bit too much for me - they didnt get along before and suddenly they're like best friends. Maybe I just saw Louis getting irritated around Legoshi and other one just being awkward that I didnt expect them to end like that. Somehow I didn't dislike it too much, but I can't disagree with any of these complaints. I feel like Beastars has enough depth to make these character swings make sense, but it didn't get conveyed here. I also want to add in, didn't Louis have a gun? It vanishes between him holding it up in defense and Ibuki getting shot, but it'd be pretty weird for him to abandon it knowing where he's going. Does not using it fall under the same logic as not just calling the police? The foot thing seemed desperate even with the eating the curse justification. Pretty sure Legoshi wouldn't have agreed to use the gun though. He wanted to defeat him hand to hand. He also really, reeeeeally didn't want to eat herbivores. Breaking on that before breaking on his carnivore to carnivore fight needed more justification. Depends on what he sees fit for cheating. I think he wanted to defeat him hand to hand without using firepower. I don't disagree. The objectively stupid fight was about proving his ideals and reforming Riz through them. Just getting rid of Riz would have involved the police immediately. But the situation we get to is Legosi is about to die and compromises himself to avoid it. Choosing to compromise by warping the ideal he's fighting for rather than giving up on it winning a physical fight is weird, and it's also weird that Louis would feel the same. There's the makings of the argument in Legosi's respect for the consumed insect life and Louis starting to like carnivores and joining themselves by eating Louis' curse, but it's a hard sell after the messages of the past two seasons and needed a longer treatment than this episode. I think Legoshi approached this fight knowing very well he's going to die and he had no chance for winning from the start anyway, he just did it as an honor thing. When the leg was offered to him he found it a chance to cheat his way to victory and for the greater good, did the sacrifice. Still, do agree the fight was rushed and lacked, and this is pretty much my only complaint about this season. |
Mar 26, 2021 9:08 AM
#91
Mar 26, 2021 9:29 AM
#92
2 seasons of buildup for that Tokyo Ghoul level of bullshit. *sigh* |
Mar 26, 2021 11:32 AM
#93
Pretty nice a episode and season. I think season 3 not coming. Because final episode not give it another things us. If the third season had come, I would definitely watch it. We will see. |
Mar 26, 2021 1:22 PM
#94
Adampk said: Actually beastar season 1 ending was kind of aimed at having a season 2. So I suspect beastar was actually a 24 episode season with a pre-planned 2nd season as second cour. I have heard that the dvd sales were not good for season 1. At beastar season 2 ending nothing was announced as of yet, plus manga is already completed. They even removed future content titbits from this season to make it a good place to end. even orange studio is quite a small studio with lack of history of making multiple season So... Anyways even I also hope there is a season 3 Even if it was pre-planned to have 2 seasons from the start it can still get more seasons in the future as long as its still profitable for the studio, so that doesn't matter much. About the DVD sales, they were released when the COVID situation was hitting Japan and stores had to close down, so that obviously had an impact on its sales. The tidbits they removed were mostly done to not hurt the pacing of the story, since those flashbacks came pretty much out of nowhere in the manga, and since their themes are mostly explored in the next arcs and not in this one it would make more sense to leave them for a possible future season. After all ever since episode 1 Orange has been rearranging, shortening and adding new scenes to make the story flow better on the anime medium and reach with the required times of a 12 episode season. There were still many references to future events from the next arcs, which Orange wouldn't know about unless they've read far deep into the next arcs which wouldn't make sense for them to do if they really only wanted to adapt up to the events of this arc: you can see the name "Yahya" at the top right corner of the commercial cut-ins on each episode, episode 9 mentions a "guy stealing elephant tusks" a couple of times which is an anime-original dialogue and its a reference to the main antagonist of the next arc, and lastly in episode 11 there're 2 direct cameos on the train scene from characters from the next arcs. Well Beastars is actually Orange's second big anime project, the first one being Houseki no Kuni, previous to that they only made small collaborations with other studios, so its not like they have a "big record" of not doing multiple seasons for their animes, as you can see Beastars has had more than a season and nothing says they can't do more content for it in the future. S2's trailer got like 3+ million views in just a couple of months, while most other animes barely gets 1 million views after some months or even a year (unless we're talking about really big shows like Attack on Titan), so there's clearly a big demand for this anime even from people outside of the anime community. A survey from last year also revealed Beastars was like in the top 3 of the most popular animes on Netflix worldwide. And about S2's performance on Japan, it has been entering the top 10 of Netflix Japan every week, its opening song has also been in the top 10 of the music charts for a couple of months now, and on Orange's Japanese Twitter account they've constantly been tweeting about merchandising from the show every week (clothes, perfumes, objects, stickers, phone screens, a restaurant collaboration, a zoo collaboration, a video game crossover collaboration, etc) so it seems it has been doing pretty well over there. With all that in mind, I don't think the chances for a S3 are "pretty low" like you say, not extremely high either but certainly not low, the end is still left open with Legoshi saying he'll quit school because he has a criminal record and wants to explore the outside world, and there're some plot points that still didn't got any closure this season, like the school segregation thing, why is the show called "Beastars", what happened with most of the other cast, etc they could've made an anime original ending in case they really don't want to produce more content for it, but the ending was left open for a possible future continuation in case they want to do it at some point. I think its a bit outdated to think just because a manga is finished it won't get any more anime content, nowadays things like merchandising, global reception and success in streaming also plays a big role, and like I said Beastars S1 was a huge success on Netflix worldwide and S2 will most likely repeat that success, so we'll just have to wait some months more after July and see if they announce something. |
KetrodMar 26, 2021 1:38 PM
Mar 26, 2021 2:03 PM
#95
I have no idea what the writers of this episode were tripping on but it was so bad lol. Everything was out of the place, the fight was seriously lackluster. Legosi trains whole season, doesnt eat meat just to throw like 2 punches, then proceeds to eat fucking deer leg go supersayian and then doing some bullshit random talk in middle of the fight instead of actual fight... This was a huge letdown ending to otherwise decent season. |
Mar 26, 2021 2:46 PM
#96
Came here thinking a lot of people would be venting like I've been, but I'm surprised to see the praises this final episode is getting. Skip down to the part where Legosi eats Louis's leg! Like what the hell was that. Almost puked when I watched it. Legosi became Riz in that single act regardless of whether Louis allowed it or that he didn't eat all of him. Why did Louis not call the police? What was the point in yielding to Legosi's foolishness? Was a phone call more expensive than a leg? A working leg! And pls don't tell me the leg reminded me of his past, the problem is with the mind. Would you advice someone who was whipped and tortured to peel off the skin on his back? I was extremely disappointed with the last fight honestly. We see Legosi toil through almost all the episodes to fight and since the writers were too lazy to give Legosi a winning edge by outwitting Riz, they resulted to a strength vs strength final battle. And this strength Legosi used came from a final hack in the end. All that training from the beginning was useless. He should've just eaten the meat that Polar Bear dude offered from the beginning. Nonsense! And what did we have in the end, the Police! The fvckin police no one called still ended up showing up arresting Legosi and Riz. Hollup Riz? Yes Riz, he didn't die, he ... Drum roll... Surrendered I suppose. So Louis lost a leg for apparently nothing in the end. So much disappointment from this finale. Nonsense |
Mar 26, 2021 3:16 PM
#97
ed at the beginning huh? i can fw that we knew pina was getting killed off screen like that i feel he's too important now, id like to see back and forth between him and louis lmao am i the only one who thought this whole fight was all over the place? legoshi was still getting flopped around like what the hulk did to loki and could riz see those butterflies or am i or he seeing things rip my man ibuki he was a good character i don't see why louis left the shishigumi is there a bigger meaning behind it? couldn't he have just gone to the fight with ibuki or something? AND DID HE REALLY..I MEAN REALLY NEED TO EAT HIS FOOT? i mean he got that power up and literally said happy new year and hit him twice and riz just said he lost what? i wonder if it will tell us how long riz is gonna be in for or if he'll be out by season 3 in some type of time skip, is legoshi going back to gouhin? or do something with louis? cant wait either way |
Mar 26, 2021 3:21 PM
#98
FoxKingAzod said: And what did we have in the end, the Police! The fvckin police no one called still ended up showing up arresting Legosi and Riz. I merely want to point out that it was Pina who called the police, as he's seen calling someone on his phone after he escapes (I believe this was better stated in the manga). |
Mar 26, 2021 3:43 PM
#99
And so we end with a very film noir sort of feeling, and a resolution of the conflict bewtween Riz, devourer of Tem, and Legosi, devourer of Louis....' leg. Indeed, after all his training it was the power of friendship via gluttony that won the day. Thinking back on it now this entire season felt like a film noir, Louis' character arc with the lion mafia in particular. It was in stark contrast to season 1's focus on Legosi's romance with Haru. Despite checking in every now and then Haru really felt like an afterthought this season. I'm honestly not sure which I enjoyed more atm. I feel like season 1 was more consistent, but the episodes I was really into this season were better. It's just that that wasn't all of them. More than a few I thought were just okay. But episodes like the big reveal of Riz as the murderer really engrossed me, to the point that when the ending credits started rolling I couldn't believe we were done already. You know you're doing something right whenever an episode has that effect on you, regarding any series in general. I will say, as an admittedly minor point, the first season's opening theme and animation were far superior to the one from this season, though I did end up enjoying this one more in general the more I heard it. What else? Well, this probably remains the best 3dcg animated anime I've ever seen, an art style I'm usually not fond of if I'm being honest. And uhhh yeah, good stuff. I'll look forward to more if we ever get it. Slightly generous 8/10. |
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