Hortensia Saga (TV) Episode 12 Discussion

I hate theses type of anime like play the game to find out and how are we supposed to play in’s only in Japan

Wow. This was not a good ending. I get this is an adaptation of a mobile game and all, but...

Found it funny how quickly they all forgave Lugis.

Anyway, maid was best girl.

I wasn't expecting Hortensia to have a BAD END finale.
Fingers crossed for a second season!

Final illustration:

If you give this shit fest anything over a 2 then I want what your smoking!
Cause this thing sucked ass and the retarded ho princess just did what her father was trying to do.
So moral of the story is oh wait there isn't one, cause it was a fucked up king that passed his retard genes to his kids who continued his work.


I hope your right cause honestly I'm rooting for him now. His mom was thrown out of the castle by the asshole king along with him, while king get some new bitch. Then he fucks the kingdom up to try to bring the ho back. Then his daughter goes ahead and does the exact same thing, using some evil power that'll probably kill more people and just screw up more shit.......ugh, I hope the pope is in Alberta body and he just taps the princesses ass all night!

she committed a taboo...still LAME!!!

I kinda liked the anime ~6/10.

It had an okay story, not the best, but not too boring. The characters were okay, I didn't like the flying thing and the maid was annoying as shit, luckily they barely got any screentime. Main girl looked pretty nice after she "went back to being a girl". I liked that her pretending to be a boy and eventually getting revealed wasn't "the big jaw-dropping thing" in the anime (unlike some others), it just happened somewhere in the middle.
Also liked the fact that in the war she as the faction leader wasn't fighting on the frontlines (at least until the very last battle), like in anime they usually do, but watched from a safe distance kilometers away.

In the last ep I expected the basic happy ending, so this was pretty surprising. Ofc it wasn't perfect, the pope fight was hilarious (in not a very good way).
Anyways most likely there won't be a continuation, so I can think it was a good ending. Royalty committing a taboo here and there and breaking the laws of reality never hurt nobody :D
Albert is not a zombie, he wasn't revived by the relic, but the princess' hidden whatever power.

Junsui no Houseki (who apparently played the game) commented on the anime site:
"Yes the MC died there. And while his concious returned. He come back with extra baggage there. Just consider it like Sukuna x Yuji. But this case it is Alfred x that eye. The being is not as cool as Sukuna though."
I have no idea what this "Sukuna x Yuji" thing is, can't be that bad, so it is a happy end for me.

Spoilers from the game's story, someone wrote on the anime site:

is the manga adaptation any good

Lol hihihi what was that creepy ending, so unexpected, the princess used her plot power so much that it became some taboo. So entertaining lol xD

Solid 7 for this anime, simple but has kinda unexpected twist ending, totally would watch season 2 if any, which I guess has a little chance of happening ^.^

Well....that happened. Tbh it would have been better to actually just leave Alfred dead (Maurice should have died too imo). The OP kind of hinted at that, and Theresia had that vision that foreshadowed it too. Then Alfred escapes death twice, first by blocking Flegel's bullet from his surprise gun, then getting saved from Didier's slash by Marielle's unexplained magical power. Just when you finally think they had the balls to kill him off, nope, Marielle did the same dumb shit her dad did and brought him back but now he's probably evil? And I guess we'll never know. I never expected this show to be good but I didn't think the ending would fumble this badly. Again, they should have left Alfred dead, and honestly, I feel like even a generic happily ever after type ending would have been better.

WTAF! Wow....
Well, I had been enjoying this up until the last few minutes!! LOL... just great. anyways, I'll look for spoilers of the game but this was one f-ed up twist I totally did not see coming! lol

meh see last eps
from 7/10 drop to 4/10...

What the hell was that ending ???

Damn this is like a game ending that lost due to server going down. No complete story whatsoever.

How the hell was the princess able to perform a taboo art on alfred whe she doesn't have the ... whatchamacallit scrolls?

So for now, in the gacha game, it's now Hortensia Saga Zero and not Hortensia Saga ?
Who is the Emperor ?
Did we see him ?

put back the spoiler tag you idiot... imagine cutting the comment like that and not even looking at it after posting it lmao


anyway, i was enjoying this show but this ending was kinda lame...
i was gonna give it a 7 but now i'll give it a 5 just for the last few minutes
it's not like i'll play the game and i doubt there will be a new season, so whatever...

I have no clue, I copied this from the anime site comment section

I really can't take the final battle serious with the pope transforming into a monster with big ass tiddies for no reason...

Pretty rushed and disappoiting cliffhanger end for a somewhat generic series, only character I truly appreciated and wanted to see more of was lord Didier...

To be honest, rather then Albert I'm more surprised about how the fuck the Uncle survived. Is this technically main crew insurance? Or pro heroes? It was pretty predictable, and more then a little disappointing but maybe the game plot might be better at explaining things. Heroes don't die in Hortensia I guess. Albert was worried about his promise to Marielle when in reality, he almost broke his promise to his maid. HOW CAN HE, THE HONORLY KNIGHT DO SUCH A THING. Nah, jokes aside -- I am a bit confused about literally everyone's priorities. Like while Marielle didn't actively TRY dark magic to revive him, have we not learned anything about leaving those who were meant to die alone?
To say the least, the shot of him on the balcony post speech is actually a bit terrifying. (Is it the darkened double eyelid crease? I'm not sure if that's the pinpoint. But holy shit that makes him look scarier then everything else).

Also to the werewolf that escaped --- are they even now? How the hell did he control his body to escape (but not resisting those he harmed)--legit the pope was dying so I'm impressed the pope and the moon still had such a high threshhold that he couldn't stop swinging. What about the alliance?

Many questions man. I'm not going to lie, even though I didn't expect much from the beginning (as the plot already seemed a little ordinary) I am surprised I enjoyed it (and didn't find the urge to drop it). Also even more surprised that while it seems like EVERYONE gave up on those last three episodes (pacing was nonexistent or like... a bit too idealistic? ---it was definitely a tragedy to try to ascend as a princess and finish a war in such a short time frame as time isn't even real anymore), I still don't hate the series or want to lower the score. The episodes themselves I'd rate a 0/10 each if possible, but overall the quality of the show was the same. Bland. Confusing, shallow, but still watchable. I don't know if I blame the direction more or maybe the run-of-the-mill game/story plot. Potential to be more, but definitely a show that could be passed on.

hmm, that was interesting. who is the black knight? why's he have the scroll? the pope is a bigger moron than i realized

PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT YOUR SPOILERS

does the werewolf guy have latent power from birth, or did that scroll impart it within him?

the princess sucks. she wasn't a great character early in the season, but at least she wasn't complete trash. she was completely useless the last half of the series. and the english va made it really unpleasant whenever she spoke. all i hear is iruma-kun, which sounded f'ing awful in this role

that dude was resurrected...so, what's that mean? is he going to be controlled by the black knight or something? is the princess going to be corrupted somehow? poor charlot

much of this show is just corny af. but the overall plot is admittedly interesting. i think i'll give this a 7/10

is there going to be a season 2? i just want a conclusion

Well, that was a really interesting ending. Alfred gets killed by the same monster who killed his dad but then gets revived but somewhat turns...evil?

Oh well, I had fun.

was glass lip bad?

It was Ok for most part.