Rama_pt said: (Warning: this will be long, and i mean loooooong. And will contain not only spoilers for this, but also for the manga and other media. You have been warned.)
So, i first read the spoilers on reddit, and at first i was like "No. People are trolling, right?... Right?" and then i had the "brilliant" idea of while i was on yt before going to sleep, checking some guy let´s play, to check if there was video of that (only saw 2 scenes, one of them the ending), so i confirmed, at least, some of the comments.
Let´s be honest, we all knew it would happen, it was a matter of days.
If people are thinking why i would do that. Bear in mind that i (normally) don´t care if someone tells me how something ends, because as they say, for me the important isn´t how it ends, it´s the journey there.
Tho, not the brightest idea having done that late at night, because i spent 2 hours lying in bed going left and right, while my brain was in overdrive trying to make sense of what i had just watched.
With that said, i only had 1 expectation for this whole Rebuild series. Get an ending that i could say "Okay. I´m satisfied.".
I never daydreamed about a particular way about how i liked it to end, i didn´t care if we had an epilogue showing what happened to the characters years in the future, months or just days after the final battle. Just something that could put this to rest, finally.
Not that difficult, right? Evangelion is my nº1 anime of all time, but if you ask me if i prefer Asuka x Shinji or Ayanami x Shinji (no, i was never part of the Kaworu x Shinji), i would say that i´d be fine either way.
But, after watching the first 3 movies i was, obviously, thinking it would be Asuka x Shinji.
Ayanami x Shinji was a ship that died for me after what happened at the end of 2.0 and the events of 3.0 (even more after the troll thing of the trailer at the end of 2.0 having almost nothing to do with what actually happened on 3.0), so i thought it was all set to be Asuka x Shinji.
I saw someone on reddit mentioning that on manga it was Ayanami x Shinji, on EoE Asuka x Shinji, so what we got was an harem, but i can´t agree, because Ayanami is always important for plot and at the end of the manga who he sees is Asuka (despite both not having memories of each other), they don´t end together ,but she´s there.
I even thought (stupidly, i guess) that the song title could be a hint ("one last kiss") since Asuka was the only one to have kissed him (tho forcefully).
So, never had i thought that the final pair would be Shinji x Mari, the girl that paradroped (literally) into this franchise in 2.0.
I was there, looking at that, going "...Why? What?"
Like, it could´ve been worse? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But waiting years... for that, i honestly, at some point thought "Why not the girl from the Girfriend of Steel game?", you know. They could have met in the meantime, why not?
Don´t get me wrong, the final scene between the two it´s quite cute (tho, i don´t like the running up the stairs part), but still, especially, when they have a scene remembering EoE (again, camrip + no subs = no context), just left me there thinking "How?!".
Just thinking that we could have had a cute scene there with Asuka and Shinji, sitting in the bench, holding hands or if we had gone down the whole curse of Eva thing and she ,or for some reason, both had limited time to live.
I don´t know, something more meaningful than that.
That ending just hurts, man. It just hurts. And knowing it was the last try and it´s not like this is Fate, so there´s no Sunny Day special with different ending. We´re gonna be here stuck with Shinji x Mari till the end of times. Just... ahhhhh *sigh*.
Well, as i said, long and ranty.
I guess Rifujin was right when he said that even if the new movie was awesome (i think he posted this before the movie came out), maybe we would be happier not seeing it, to maintain the good memories of the original series.
*siiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhh*
Asuka and Kensuke - there were zero ounces of romanticism between them.
Proof - Miyamura in a live stream on March 20th has agreed to the father figure interpretation of Kensuke. She has expressed her distaste at the idea of Kensuke as a Asuka's partner, clarified Anno and Tsurumaki themselves told her he's a father figure -
"Asuka is not human, so she can't live with the people of the Third Village, so she stays at Kenken's house.
For 14 years, Asuka's body did not grow, but her hair did, and she was lonely.
Kenken took care of Asuka, who was lonely.
Asuka must have been very happy with Kenken's warmth.
Kenken is now in the position of Kaji-san. I think Kenken is like a father.
The 14-year-old Shinji is different from the 28-year-old Kenken.
Asuka and Kenken's relationship is not a romantic one, but a parent-child one.
I'm not a fan of the "Kenken" ending.
I don't believe that Kenken would ever touch Asuka
Seriously? Maybe it's "character development" but I can't imagine Asuka even giving Kensuke the time of day.
Literally the most random pairing. Zero development for them in the movies at all lol.
Not a fan of Asuka but I seriously can't see her ending up with him at all. This is so random and bullshit.
highly doubt he did. There are threads on Twitter with more detailed plot summaries and they don't mention him with her. Also Shinji x Mari is not confirmed. She gives him a playful tease kiss once and that's it, but she teases multiple characters, she's just flirty lol..
This movie does not really play with ships behind saying that Kaworu has a similar role to helping Shinji as Yui did to Gendo.
Also the movie has a badass giant cgi Rei from EoE apparently. Omega based. That and... It straight up jumps to the EoE ending with that bloody beach and choke scene BEFORE the true ending.
Yes that's why I was weirded out when I saw that some random ass ship sailed. NGE never really cared about ships that much ever.
Asuka and Kensuke - there were zero ounces of romanticism between them.
Proof - Miyamura in a live stream on March 20th has agreed to the father figure interpretation of Kensuke. She has expressed her distaste at the idea of Kensuke as a Asuka's partner, clarified Anno and Tsurumaki themselves told her he's a father figure -
"Asuka is not human, so she can't live with the people of the Third Village, so she stays at Kenken's house.
For 14 years, Asuka's body did not grow, but her hair did, and she was lonely.
Kenken took care of Asuka, who was lonely.
Asuka must have been very happy with Kenken's warmth.
Kenken is now in the position of Kaji-san. I think Kenken is like a father.
The 14-year-old Shinji is different from the 28-year-old Kenken.
Asuka and Kenken's relationship is not a romantic one, but a parent-child one.
I'm not a fan of the "Kenken" ending.
I don't believe that Kenken would ever touch Asuka
That post has actual anime subtitles and what it meant plus the VA's interviews.
I have made a recent post named by https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1912253 hope it helps you. Which discusses this extensively in the forums.
I guess working on something for too long really can harm the final product. Anno was again way up in his own ass sniffing out all the potential and then throwing it aside to be more "diverse". Suddenly making Mari a thing is just proof that he wrote himself in a corner with his original characters and then he needed a Hail Mary to fix it. And it all made great sense in the end. Could've at least made the "angels" more realistic to the original description in ancient texts, but this would at least require him to read and do research instead of travelling around for "reference"...
I wasn't happy with Shinji ending up with Mari and Asuka ending up with Kensuke but hey i think thats why Asuka and Shinji end up together in the original series. I mean in the manga its pretty hinted at so i like to believe that
soccer6131 said: I wasn't happy with Shinji ending up with Mari and Asuka ending up with Kensuke but hey i think thats why Asuka and Shinji end up together in the original series. I mean in the manga its pretty hinted at so i like to believe that
At this point I think Anno does it deliberately to troll the fans.
