| I've been wondering for really long time now, I just don't get it... why is it so ignored? I loved pretty much every anime I've watched of that genre, but there are so little... it's just so sad. |
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| I enjoy this genre, and will certainly watch more in the future.. But also I feel that for now I have more of these series I haven't watched.. There could be even more, though - I wouldn't complain.. ;P |
| If I were you, I'd just read novels/mangas from the genres you like. Adaptations tend to leave out key moments from series that matter to the story and the reader just to be able to fit the whole thing within a set number of episodes. Besides, that way you get to experience the author's Art and visuals, and live the story through your mind. A good author will be able to vehiculate characters' feelings and emotions from the book to you. I do agree with you though that there isn't a lot of variety in the genre, and I'd like to see more. |
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| nope I would rather they make more quality BL than GL. |
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| Honestly I don't really care for shounen or shoujo ai, but I do agree there is an issue that there is a lack of good anime in both departments. Only good shoujo ai I've seen was Bloom into You, I preferred it to Strawberry Panic actually. |
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| >hasnt seen utena >hasnt seen mariasama >hasnt seen oniisama e back to reddit |
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| Right. We need more yuri. NilsLikeAnime said: Never thought anything was weird with YagaKimi.Honestly, Konohana kitan bored me, Budoukan was excessive and I don't like "idol" stuff, Citrus was decent and the ending was the entire show, bloom into you was weird, sakura trick was... kissing, adachi and shimamura was actually nice but I don't like when it just ends and it hasn't progressed all that much, scum's wish was borderline hentai, sasameki koto was like adachi and shimamura. The only one I thought was really good was Strawberry panic. Conclusion: I think we need at least one good shoujo ai and probably because pretty much all of them are either too much or too little |
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| Personally I don't like shoujo-ai. But speaking from a purely production stand-point, it's simply not that beneficial for studios to adapt a shoujo-ai. Since they don't tend to do as well nor do they reach as broad of a audience. Meaning it's more than likely that they will actually lose money from doing so. If you're a company that is looking to profit (which basically any animation company is), then the safest bet will pretty much always be to adapt a straight romance as opposed to shoujo/shounen-ai. |
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NilsLikeAnime said: I didn't like Scum's wish either but Yagakimi is a bit mature and has some realism considering how Yuu is constantly thinking and making more progression. I think she lets her kiss because she wants to 'feel' love. You know how it started with Yuu stating that she has never felt love towards anyone before.Well Idk why either, maybe I need to rewatch it. But whenever I think back to it I just feel like it was weird. Probably because she didn't have any feelings for her but still was letting her kiss her. That's one reason I didn't like Scum's Wish, bcs like they were friends with benefits or rather even acquaintances with benefits |
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| It's not a very popular genre in general, and most fans of it probably prefer one where it doesn't fetishize the content of it. |
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doshiteKAMISAMA said: Only good shoujo ai I've seen was Bloom into You, I preferred it to Strawberry Panic actually. As suggested before.. Maria Sama Ga Miteru and Oniisama e... are both VERY great ones. I didn't know even the term - nor I could fall in love with something like that - before watching these two (excellent) series. |
redwingsx said: Avicebrons said: Personally I don't like shoujo-ai. But speaking from a purely production stand-point, it's simply not that beneficial for studios to adapt a shoujo-ai. Since they don't tend to do as well nor do they reach as broad of a audience. Meaning it's more than likely that they will actually lose money from doing so. If you're a company that is looking to profit (which basically any animation company is), then the safest bet will pretty much always be to adapt a straight romance as opposed to shoujo/shounen-ai. Well, I do get that it's not profitable. But, it does make those that like these genres unhappy. And there simply needs to be more for it to become more popular and profitable. After all, some company did make Adachi to shimamura, and it certainly doesn't look like a failure to me. But it's hard to make it more profitable. Because it will no matter how you twist and bend it, still reach a MUCH smaller audience. That's just the nature of it sadly. It's a niche genre. You can make a shoujo-ai and make it profitable. There even are examples of that. For instance Adachi to Shimamura like you mentioned I believe sold quite well. The problem is that it's more than likely that they could've been even more profitable by adapting something that would reach a bigger audience. Which is why many companies don't like to make shoujo/shounen-ais. |
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kryxanime said: doshiteKAMISAMA said: Only good shoujo ai I've seen was Bloom into You, I preferred it to Strawberry Panic actually. As suggested before.. Maria Sama Ga Miteru and Oniisama e... are both VERY great ones. I didn't know even the term - nor I could fall in love with something like that - before watching these two (excellent) series. oh well I'll put them on my plan to watch then, thanks for the recs. |
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| IMO i think it's empty because of how a lot of aspects that a lot of the most popular older shojo ai works had are not shown much anymore. For example, shojo ai had a period of massive popularity in the mid to late 2000s because of the success of maria-sama and strawberry panic and a lot of people were attracted to the fantasy of going to a far-away school with only fellow girls and engaging in such things at a religious environment. But you don't really see that much anymore so it died down in content and popularity. The recent shojo ai i can remember popping up was citrus and surprise surprise, it had the "forbidden at religious girl schools' aspect and the many unnecessary scenes of sexual assault aspect. |
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| There's a decent amount of it. My issue is that most of it is really shallow. I have pretty limited experience with it, but most GL shows I have seen suffer from feeling fake or manipulative. Same thing can be said about BL stories as well. It's rare to find one that actually feels like a story of two people. Most tend to be written to purely be fan-service. |
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| If you want to consume more yuri works, you're better off branching to manga and LNs, and occasionally clinging desperately to the few adaptations that do get announced from time to time. The industry is in no rush to adapt more 'pure' yuri, only either yuribait or very subtle yuri mixed in other genres, much like the romance genre is nowadays. This year has some yuri works coming up or running now, such as Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road and, ugh, Urasekai Picnic - for whatever that dumpster fire of an adaptation is worth, the novel or manga would still be a better choice. Having three yuri anime, if you count Vlad Love (although it could be more, if PA Works delivers with its original show, which I'm far, far from holding my breath for, knowing PA Works and all) in a year isn't exactly a bad year for the genre, even more so considering Adachi to Shimamura aired last fall. I wouldn't say it's the sign of an upwards tick, but it's something. All of that said and going into a bit of a tangent, I really don't know why a considerable amount of the genre fandom likes Citrus so much, even putting the whole noncon aside, which, as someone who liked the trashy melodrama of Strawberry Panic, doesn't bother me at all. I really had thought the manga couldn't get anymore dumpster-fire-y than that ending, but then along came Citrus+ and god... please, Saburouta, let sleeping dogs lie. |
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| "Why is shoujo ai pretty much empty?" Because "ai" means love and when the love is gone all what remains is emptiness... |
| bruh there's like at least one shoujo ai almost every season lmao |
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| You know it's a good question, Shoujo-ai is a genre where the best it has to offer is probably there because unfortunately, a majority of the other series are just "Bland" I hate to say - there is no real romance or feeling in a lot of them. |
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| If I have to guess, it's probably for business reasons. Likely, very few people prefer girls loving each other to girls all loving one dude they can stick themselves into the shoes of (looking at all the isekai/harem/wish-fulfillment titles out there). |
| There's no inherent right or wrong in this universe, but when we think with emotions rather than logic, we make things so. |
| I'd rather have better Shounen & Shoujo Ai anime than just more of them tbh ^^' A lot of them are so heavily fetishized that they are just not enjoyable at all :/ |
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redwingsx said: Osumare said: IMO i think it's empty because of how a lot of aspects that a lot of the most popular older shojo ai works had are not shown much anymore. For example, shojo ai had a period of massive popularity in the mid to late 2000s because of the success of maria-sama and strawberry panic and a lot of people were attracted to the fantasy of going to a far-away school with only fellow girls and engaging in such things at a religious environment. But you don't really see that much anymore so it died down in content and popularity. The recent shojo ai i can remember popping up was citrus and surprise surprise, it had the "forbidden at religious girl schools' aspect and the many unnecessary scenes of sexual assault aspect. I think the older anime(like, strawberry panic), were shown in a much more open way, and it seemed more natural and that makes it easy to relate to characters. It's similar in Adachi to shimamura, like how it's easy to relate to characters. I personally haven't liked anime like citrus, because the focus seems to be on kissing scenes more than anything. I think it was one of the anime, I started this genre with, and it kind of pushed me away. Xaeveax said: There's a decent amount of it. My issue is that most of it is really shallow. I have pretty limited experience with it, but most GL shows I have seen suffer from feeling fake or manipulative. Same thing can be said about BL stories as well. It's rare to find one that actually feels like a story of two people. Most tend to be written to purely be fan-service. I do understand that, and it really is a shame how there seems to be so much fan-service, especially in some newer ones. Yes, you are correct on the open-space way. Yuri like Strawberry Panic did a good job in building up plots, tension, and background/lore of the world and why the relationships were "forbidden", while Citrus (I read the manga and the manga's second half does a much better job at being ope-spaced) in its first half focused waaaay too much on the kissing and sexual parts. While Citrus did talk about the school of Mei and Yuzu and the forced-heteroness many of the students were in, the issues were solved too conveniently and quickly, such as The fact that most of said scenes had sexual assault also didn't help the series much. Speaking of relatable characters, one thing I've noticed in newer yuri is that the characters feel too much like typical anime characters in not only their relationships but their overall backstories. Older yuri characters tended to have less focus on the anime character type they were and more on their issues and motivations and life both when involving yuri or not involving yuri. New yuri characters tho focus way too much on their kissing to the point where a lot of them feel like they're just there for someone out there to get off to instead of characters that like you said are relatable. |
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| Because there’s not a large enough demographic in japan. First off there aren’t a lot of out gay people in japan nor anywhere except America so they definetly wouldn’t risk it by getting a book or watching an anime about it not to mention not every lesbian in japan is gonna want to read/watch shoujo ai so that makes it an even smaller demographic and straight females are obviously way more into Yaoi for a lot of reasons. And just like they’re counter part men are into yuri because they’re into it for the sex not the relationship I think a lot of this also has to do with the history of how the straights see queer people as well but I’m not getting into it. |
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| ^Pretty much. If there was a large enough audience yuri would get shoehorned into everything like isekai is nowadays. Also, yes, I'd love it if there was more shoujo ai. |
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| I only like three anime from this genre. Bloom into You, Aoi Hana, and Asagao to Kase-san. Just my oppinion other than this three they fall to boring to me. Adashima has a great start but the pacing is to slow and not much thing progressed. Well you can say adashima perfect shoujo ai since its have everything fudanshi want from this genre. Except developed characters and relationship |
| People don't understand the appeal of yuri, It's sad :( |
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| Hard to sell in comparison to straight romances. Plus if they're not fetishy or sexual, they usually don't appeal to as many non-lesbians for obvious, unfortunate reasons. I'm just happy we're not in the same state of yaoi (though I think it's improve compared to a few years ago) as far as fetish-pieces written by straight people go lol |
| I just wish we had more yuri and yaoi in general tbh, especially well written ones because I just would love to see more amazing LGBT romance in anime as a trans bisexual disaster myself |
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| There really wasn't anything to go with shoujou ai since it's not as exploitable as other defining genres as mecha, shounen, seinen, etch. There isn't much anything new anyone can do with shoujou ai. That's my take on all of this. |
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