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Jan 15, 2021 5:47 PM
#101
Benji_420 said: I noticed it but I really really liked it. It blends well with the 2d. Ofc hand drawn would be even better but thats too much consider the titan shifter fights this season are more than season 2 and 3 in all and more complexity. Benji_420 said: reading more of these messages i feel as if i must have been on crack to not have noticed it. Is it really that bad, and even so how could it stop people from enjoying a show so much. I noticed the 3d models for titans but i thought it was mostly always like that in past seasons? Am i crazy??I haven’t noticed it yet, and ive been watching on a normal size computer monitor? I usually have an annoyingly good eye for weird details like that, so im not sure why i have yet to notice it. Either way i hope it stays that way as others seem to hate the cgi. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 10:31 PM
#102
| Cgi is good and all but its not better than 2d thats all i know |
Jan 16, 2021 2:45 AM
#103
| Good 2D is amazing from the get-go. We shouldn't have to numb our brains to something to enjoy it. |
Jan 16, 2021 3:15 AM
#104
| i dont want to get used to something strange and bad CGI on 2D always bad, any show should be either fully 2D or fully CGI, NOT mixed |
Jan 16, 2021 4:43 AM
#105
Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not. I’ve watched some chinese anime and they’re 3D and it’s not that bad because everything else is also in 3D. idk if you realised that but many buildings in S1-3 were CGI as well as the forest of giant trees on some scenes. so i don't see the how foreground CGI can't work with 2D backgrounds like 2D foreground works with CGI background It doesn’t work that way maybe because of how mappa is doing it? Just cause 2D works with 3D background doesn’t mean 3D will work with 2D backgrounds. You’re using science to say we aren’t used to CGI but when we say we are but AOT S4 CGI still looks bad with how they’re doing it, you can’t back your claims. '' maybe because of how mappa is doing it?'' how is mappa doing it, for you? as i stated the above, if foreground CGI isn't as good (it isn't, but it's still pretty good to my eyes) as background CGI at this moment, it will be in the future. It looks like a 3D model out of place in a 2D world like when you use fake background in Zoom. CGI titans look great alone but looking at it as a whole, it doesn’t. Yah it may get better in the future but as of not, it isn’t. I don’t hate CGI if it fits like how chinese anime are doing it but unfortunately, it doesn’t in aot. I can’t spoil here but imagining the final acts of the story in CGI titans and everything else in 2D looks horrible. You can always choose not to watch the Anime, or not to post in the forums about how much it sucks, instead of spreading negativity, and let us fans able to enjoy the CGI have happier discussions here. lol just cause I don’t like the animation of season 4, I shouldn’t watch it anymore? I watch it for the story which is the only thing carrying it right now. I’ve read the manga and this season is supposed to be the best arc so obviously it’s normal to be disappointed with this downgrade of quality. Real fans should not blindly love it and spread that it’s a god tier and perfect adaptation when it is clearly not. All I did was give you options, since it's pretty obvious you don't like the animation, so why would you watch it then, and not just go and read the Manga. I also mentioned that if you don't like it, you could at least stop posting negative comments in the forums. Spreading negativity among the fanbase is also not something that "real" fans should be doing. We should all try and enjoy the story together. You not liking the animation is one thing, but straight up claiming that it sucks in general is completely different. "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not." You know, OP isn't wrong, but you straight up deny what he says cause you don't agree with it. I agree with him. The beast titan looked off to me the first time I saw it, but rewatching the scene, it looks much better now. Same happened with colossal titan in the previous season. Then you say that 3D pasted over 2D looks bad. Your point isn't even remotely objective. What about me and other people who thought it looked great? Armored titan, Jaw titan, Cart titan all looked fantastic to me when I first saw them. And what about your claim regarding later events. It's pretty obvious that all of that will have to be made in CG, there's absolutely no way that you can do all of that by hand. Even with movie level production schedule. MAPPA has great CGI, so getting the later events with this high level CGI is a blessing. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm saying it's absolutely amazing so far. Very high quality Anime adaptation. I would personally appreciate it if you could formulate your thought more objectively if you really want to share them here, and less in a way that implies that you're right and the rest are wrong. We should all enjoy the final season together, and have nice discussions about it, with as little negativity as possible. Then why are you implying that you’re right and I’m wrong? You’re faking it if you actually think that it doesn’t look like the armored titan is pasted on the background when he landed in episode 1. I said the CGI is great but it’s not looking at it with the background. You’re also being subjective as all of these are just our opinions. lol with your toxic positivity that everything is perfect with this season 4 adaptation. I'm not implying I'm right and you're wrong. My point is that you should stop making negative posts in this community, because this is not what the forums were intended for. Please enlighten me where exactly I'm trying to prove you wrong? I kept my words objective. I told you, I would appreciate it that if you wanted to discuss things you don't like, to try and do it in an objective way. The way you say things is very subjective and you don't take into account that other people like it. Yes, I didn't like the armored titan falling down. But I loved the armored titan running around the wall, spinning, getting hit by bullets, the slow motion, all the first time I watched it. I also loved the Jaw titan, which looked amazing the entire episode. I also literally claimed that I don't think it's perfect, so what is the point of you being offensive and calling it "toxic positivity" and claiming I called it perfect, when I clearly stated that "I'm not saying it's perfect." I also never said that you're wrong, or I'm right. Not once. I'm giving you a different perspective from the point of view of someone whose opinion about the Anime differs from what you have said. That's why I'm saying, being more objective when you want to share your displeasure would help in having more positive conversations. By you saying you’re objective and I’m not is already implying that I’m wrong because mine is subjective and yours isn’t cause if I’m correct, objective are facts. Saying something is amazing is already purely subjective. loving the titans is also subjective. What part is objective in you liking it and only me being subjective for not? I'm trying to be objective not to prove you wrong or me right, but because I'm trying to make it so that we can both discuss the matter subjectively with neither of us being offensive and accepting the other persons point of view. I already mentioned that I do accept it that you don't like it, but the way you said things isn't the best way to express this. I offered my subjective point of view to show you a different perspective. So far in all the replies I've read from you, you keep insisting that the CGI looks bad, in a way that disregards the other persons opinion on the issue. I don't want you to agree with me, I want you to accept my opinion. It's about that you say things in a way that automatically implies that the other person is wrong. You say that CG pasted over 2D looks bad. I tell you that I like it. You respond by still saying it's bad. If you were right, that would mean that I couldn't like it, and as a matter of fact, nobody could like it. The OP likes it, I like it, and a lot of other people like it. You don't like it. I accept that. I would like it if you accept it too that I like it, and not try to prove to me that it still sucks. In this case, you are wrong, because you make definite statement based off of a subjective opinion. These are your words: "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad." You say that OP is wrong about what he said and you also say that 3D is being pasted over 2D so it automatically looks bad. Looking at this statement alone, it is 100% correct as long as everybody who reads it agrees with it. This is why I gave you my subjective view. I agree with the OP, that rewatching scenes and getting used to them can help liking it better. It works for me and it works for @Kyxor as well. This means that your statement can by default not be seen as correct. It changes the definite "that's not true" to a subjective "that's not true for me". I also mentioned that I like most of the CGI and don't think it looks bad or pasted. MOST of it. This then changes your other statement to "the problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so to me it looks bad." To you it looks bad, to me it looks good. Some people share your point of view, and others share mine. In our subjective opinions, we are both right. A subjective opinion is only wrong when it's being generalized. My “That’s not true” is objective because the OP is trying to say we don’t like it because of science reasons which is definitely “not true”. By me not liking it not because of the science explanation of the OP already shows it’s not true objectively cause science is objective. I replied to the OP’s statement that basically says “science says you don’t like it cause of this” which implies that it’s a fact statement cause it’s science. OP is definitely wrong because he used science and not his opinion. A subjective opinion is not wrong just cause it’s being generalized. It’s like you’re saying an opinion is wrong just cause many agrees with it lol It's good we're slowly reaching a consensus here. While science is never wrong, your "that's not true" can still not be seen as objective, due to the fact that even though this might not apply to you, OP statement does apply to me, which means that what he says does work. I think we shouldn't use the term science here, since the situation isn't something that flatout applies to literally everything the same way all the time. The thing OP describes is more of a psychological process, and this is different from person to person, so we can't say that "watch it and you'll get used to it" is the only factor playing a role here. After all it comes down to how much you want to enjoy what you're watching. |
Jan 16, 2021 4:44 AM
#106
Benji_420 said: Benji_420 said: reading more of these messages i feel as if i must have been on crack to not have noticed it. Is it really that bad, and even so how could it stop people from enjoying a show so much. I noticed the 3d models for titans but i thought it was mostly always like that in past seasons? Am i crazy??I haven’t noticed it yet, and ive been watching on a normal size computer monitor? I usually have an annoyingly good eye for weird details like that, so im not sure why i have yet to notice it. Either way i hope it stays that way as others seem to hate the cgi. No, you're doing it right. Keep enjoying! For the best viewing experience, avoid the forums. Seriously, it's much better to watch the episode without reading the negative messages spread all over the place. |
Jan 16, 2021 4:47 AM
#107
Kaito10 said: Benji_420 said: Benji_420 said: I haven’t noticed it yet, and ive been watching on a normal size computer monitor? I usually have an annoyingly good eye for weird details like that, so im not sure why i have yet to notice it. Either way i hope it stays that way as others seem to hate the cgi. No, you're doing it right. Keep enjoying! For the best viewing experience, avoid the forums. Seriously, it's much better to watch the episode without reading the negative messages spread all over the place. Yeah, thats true. Im loving the show so far the plot is so interesting, even if the animation were bad id still enjoy it so. |
Jan 16, 2021 4:49 AM
#108
Benji_420 said: Kaito10 said: Benji_420 said: Benji_420 said: reading more of these messages i feel as if i must have been on crack to not have noticed it. Is it really that bad, and even so how could it stop people from enjoying a show so much. I noticed the 3d models for titans but i thought it was mostly always like that in past seasons? Am i crazy??I haven’t noticed it yet, and ive been watching on a normal size computer monitor? I usually have an annoyingly good eye for weird details like that, so im not sure why i have yet to notice it. Either way i hope it stays that way as others seem to hate the cgi. No, you're doing it right. Keep enjoying! For the best viewing experience, avoid the forums. Seriously, it's much better to watch the episode without reading the negative messages spread all over the place. Yeah, thats true. Im loving the show so far the plot is so interesting, even if the animation were bad id still enjoy it so. I'm loving it too, but then I read these forums and it kinda just kills the entire hype. Better not to be around here too much. |
Jan 16, 2021 6:07 AM
#109
Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not. I’ve watched some chinese anime and they’re 3D and it’s not that bad because everything else is also in 3D. idk if you realised that but many buildings in S1-3 were CGI as well as the forest of giant trees on some scenes. so i don't see the how foreground CGI can't work with 2D backgrounds like 2D foreground works with CGI background It doesn’t work that way maybe because of how mappa is doing it? Just cause 2D works with 3D background doesn’t mean 3D will work with 2D backgrounds. You’re using science to say we aren’t used to CGI but when we say we are but AOT S4 CGI still looks bad with how they’re doing it, you can’t back your claims. '' maybe because of how mappa is doing it?'' how is mappa doing it, for you? as i stated the above, if foreground CGI isn't as good (it isn't, but it's still pretty good to my eyes) as background CGI at this moment, it will be in the future. It looks like a 3D model out of place in a 2D world like when you use fake background in Zoom. CGI titans look great alone but looking at it as a whole, it doesn’t. Yah it may get better in the future but as of not, it isn’t. I don’t hate CGI if it fits like how chinese anime are doing it but unfortunately, it doesn’t in aot. I can’t spoil here but imagining the final acts of the story in CGI titans and everything else in 2D looks horrible. You can always choose not to watch the Anime, or not to post in the forums about how much it sucks, instead of spreading negativity, and let us fans able to enjoy the CGI have happier discussions here. lol just cause I don’t like the animation of season 4, I shouldn’t watch it anymore? I watch it for the story which is the only thing carrying it right now. I’ve read the manga and this season is supposed to be the best arc so obviously it’s normal to be disappointed with this downgrade of quality. Real fans should not blindly love it and spread that it’s a god tier and perfect adaptation when it is clearly not. All I did was give you options, since it's pretty obvious you don't like the animation, so why would you watch it then, and not just go and read the Manga. I also mentioned that if you don't like it, you could at least stop posting negative comments in the forums. Spreading negativity among the fanbase is also not something that "real" fans should be doing. We should all try and enjoy the story together. You not liking the animation is one thing, but straight up claiming that it sucks in general is completely different. "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not." You know, OP isn't wrong, but you straight up deny what he says cause you don't agree with it. I agree with him. The beast titan looked off to me the first time I saw it, but rewatching the scene, it looks much better now. Same happened with colossal titan in the previous season. Then you say that 3D pasted over 2D looks bad. Your point isn't even remotely objective. What about me and other people who thought it looked great? Armored titan, Jaw titan, Cart titan all looked fantastic to me when I first saw them. And what about your claim regarding later events. It's pretty obvious that all of that will have to be made in CG, there's absolutely no way that you can do all of that by hand. Even with movie level production schedule. MAPPA has great CGI, so getting the later events with this high level CGI is a blessing. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm saying it's absolutely amazing so far. Very high quality Anime adaptation. I would personally appreciate it if you could formulate your thought more objectively if you really want to share them here, and less in a way that implies that you're right and the rest are wrong. We should all enjoy the final season together, and have nice discussions about it, with as little negativity as possible. Then why are you implying that you’re right and I’m wrong? You’re faking it if you actually think that it doesn’t look like the armored titan is pasted on the background when he landed in episode 1. I said the CGI is great but it’s not looking at it with the background. You’re also being subjective as all of these are just our opinions. lol with your toxic positivity that everything is perfect with this season 4 adaptation. I'm not implying I'm right and you're wrong. My point is that you should stop making negative posts in this community, because this is not what the forums were intended for. Please enlighten me where exactly I'm trying to prove you wrong? I kept my words objective. I told you, I would appreciate it that if you wanted to discuss things you don't like, to try and do it in an objective way. The way you say things is very subjective and you don't take into account that other people like it. Yes, I didn't like the armored titan falling down. But I loved the armored titan running around the wall, spinning, getting hit by bullets, the slow motion, all the first time I watched it. I also loved the Jaw titan, which looked amazing the entire episode. I also literally claimed that I don't think it's perfect, so what is the point of you being offensive and calling it "toxic positivity" and claiming I called it perfect, when I clearly stated that "I'm not saying it's perfect." I also never said that you're wrong, or I'm right. Not once. I'm giving you a different perspective from the point of view of someone whose opinion about the Anime differs from what you have said. That's why I'm saying, being more objective when you want to share your displeasure would help in having more positive conversations. By you saying you’re objective and I’m not is already implying that I’m wrong because mine is subjective and yours isn’t cause if I’m correct, objective are facts. Saying something is amazing is already purely subjective. loving the titans is also subjective. What part is objective in you liking it and only me being subjective for not? I'm trying to be objective not to prove you wrong or me right, but because I'm trying to make it so that we can both discuss the matter subjectively with neither of us being offensive and accepting the other persons point of view. I already mentioned that I do accept it that you don't like it, but the way you said things isn't the best way to express this. I offered my subjective point of view to show you a different perspective. So far in all the replies I've read from you, you keep insisting that the CGI looks bad, in a way that disregards the other persons opinion on the issue. I don't want you to agree with me, I want you to accept my opinion. It's about that you say things in a way that automatically implies that the other person is wrong. You say that CG pasted over 2D looks bad. I tell you that I like it. You respond by still saying it's bad. If you were right, that would mean that I couldn't like it, and as a matter of fact, nobody could like it. The OP likes it, I like it, and a lot of other people like it. You don't like it. I accept that. I would like it if you accept it too that I like it, and not try to prove to me that it still sucks. In this case, you are wrong, because you make definite statement based off of a subjective opinion. These are your words: "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad." You say that OP is wrong about what he said and you also say that 3D is being pasted over 2D so it automatically looks bad. Looking at this statement alone, it is 100% correct as long as everybody who reads it agrees with it. This is why I gave you my subjective view. I agree with the OP, that rewatching scenes and getting used to them can help liking it better. It works for me and it works for @Kyxor as well. This means that your statement can by default not be seen as correct. It changes the definite "that's not true" to a subjective "that's not true for me". I also mentioned that I like most of the CGI and don't think it looks bad or pasted. MOST of it. This then changes your other statement to "the problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so to me it looks bad." To you it looks bad, to me it looks good. Some people share your point of view, and others share mine. In our subjective opinions, we are both right. A subjective opinion is only wrong when it's being generalized. My “That’s not true” is objective because the OP is trying to say we don’t like it because of science reasons which is definitely “not true”. By me not liking it not because of the science explanation of the OP already shows it’s not true objectively cause science is objective. I replied to the OP’s statement that basically says “science says you don’t like it cause of this” which implies that it’s a fact statement cause it’s science. OP is definitely wrong because he used science and not his opinion. A subjective opinion is not wrong just cause it’s being generalized. It’s like you’re saying an opinion is wrong just cause many agrees with it lol It's good we're slowly reaching a consensus here. While science is never wrong, your "that's not true" can still not be seen as objective, due to the fact that even though this might not apply to you, OP statement does apply to me, which means that what he says does work. I think we shouldn't use the term science here, since the situation isn't something that flatout applies to literally everything the same way all the time. The thing OP describes is more of a psychological process, and this is different from person to person, so we can't say that "watch it and you'll get used to it" is the only factor playing a role here. After all it comes down to how much you want to enjoy what you're watching. Finally we agree. OP shouldn’t have used science to say we don’t like it cause we’re not used to it. There are many factors as liking is purely subjective and different for each person. Yeah it depends on what a person’s preferences on what they enjoy when watching and unfortunately, CGI on 2D backgrounds bother me. I’ll still watch it though for the top tier story. |
Jan 16, 2021 6:45 AM
#110
Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kaito10 said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: Kyxor said: Roger1 said: That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not. I’ve watched some chinese anime and they’re 3D and it’s not that bad because everything else is also in 3D. idk if you realised that but many buildings in S1-3 were CGI as well as the forest of giant trees on some scenes. so i don't see the how foreground CGI can't work with 2D backgrounds like 2D foreground works with CGI background It doesn’t work that way maybe because of how mappa is doing it? Just cause 2D works with 3D background doesn’t mean 3D will work with 2D backgrounds. You’re using science to say we aren’t used to CGI but when we say we are but AOT S4 CGI still looks bad with how they’re doing it, you can’t back your claims. '' maybe because of how mappa is doing it?'' how is mappa doing it, for you? as i stated the above, if foreground CGI isn't as good (it isn't, but it's still pretty good to my eyes) as background CGI at this moment, it will be in the future. It looks like a 3D model out of place in a 2D world like when you use fake background in Zoom. CGI titans look great alone but looking at it as a whole, it doesn’t. Yah it may get better in the future but as of not, it isn’t. I don’t hate CGI if it fits like how chinese anime are doing it but unfortunately, it doesn’t in aot. I can’t spoil here but imagining the final acts of the story in CGI titans and everything else in 2D looks horrible. You can always choose not to watch the Anime, or not to post in the forums about how much it sucks, instead of spreading negativity, and let us fans able to enjoy the CGI have happier discussions here. lol just cause I don’t like the animation of season 4, I shouldn’t watch it anymore? I watch it for the story which is the only thing carrying it right now. I’ve read the manga and this season is supposed to be the best arc so obviously it’s normal to be disappointed with this downgrade of quality. Real fans should not blindly love it and spread that it’s a god tier and perfect adaptation when it is clearly not. All I did was give you options, since it's pretty obvious you don't like the animation, so why would you watch it then, and not just go and read the Manga. I also mentioned that if you don't like it, you could at least stop posting negative comments in the forums. Spreading negativity among the fanbase is also not something that "real" fans should be doing. We should all try and enjoy the story together. You not liking the animation is one thing, but straight up claiming that it sucks in general is completely different. "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad. CGI is great if it was stand-alone but over the anime it’s not." You know, OP isn't wrong, but you straight up deny what he says cause you don't agree with it. I agree with him. The beast titan looked off to me the first time I saw it, but rewatching the scene, it looks much better now. Same happened with colossal titan in the previous season. Then you say that 3D pasted over 2D looks bad. Your point isn't even remotely objective. What about me and other people who thought it looked great? Armored titan, Jaw titan, Cart titan all looked fantastic to me when I first saw them. And what about your claim regarding later events. It's pretty obvious that all of that will have to be made in CG, there's absolutely no way that you can do all of that by hand. Even with movie level production schedule. MAPPA has great CGI, so getting the later events with this high level CGI is a blessing. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm saying it's absolutely amazing so far. Very high quality Anime adaptation. I would personally appreciate it if you could formulate your thought more objectively if you really want to share them here, and less in a way that implies that you're right and the rest are wrong. We should all enjoy the final season together, and have nice discussions about it, with as little negativity as possible. Then why are you implying that you’re right and I’m wrong? You’re faking it if you actually think that it doesn’t look like the armored titan is pasted on the background when he landed in episode 1. I said the CGI is great but it’s not looking at it with the background. You’re also being subjective as all of these are just our opinions. lol with your toxic positivity that everything is perfect with this season 4 adaptation. I'm not implying I'm right and you're wrong. My point is that you should stop making negative posts in this community, because this is not what the forums were intended for. Please enlighten me where exactly I'm trying to prove you wrong? I kept my words objective. I told you, I would appreciate it that if you wanted to discuss things you don't like, to try and do it in an objective way. The way you say things is very subjective and you don't take into account that other people like it. Yes, I didn't like the armored titan falling down. But I loved the armored titan running around the wall, spinning, getting hit by bullets, the slow motion, all the first time I watched it. I also loved the Jaw titan, which looked amazing the entire episode. I also literally claimed that I don't think it's perfect, so what is the point of you being offensive and calling it "toxic positivity" and claiming I called it perfect, when I clearly stated that "I'm not saying it's perfect." I also never said that you're wrong, or I'm right. Not once. I'm giving you a different perspective from the point of view of someone whose opinion about the Anime differs from what you have said. That's why I'm saying, being more objective when you want to share your displeasure would help in having more positive conversations. By you saying you’re objective and I’m not is already implying that I’m wrong because mine is subjective and yours isn’t cause if I’m correct, objective are facts. Saying something is amazing is already purely subjective. loving the titans is also subjective. What part is objective in you liking it and only me being subjective for not? I'm trying to be objective not to prove you wrong or me right, but because I'm trying to make it so that we can both discuss the matter subjectively with neither of us being offensive and accepting the other persons point of view. I already mentioned that I do accept it that you don't like it, but the way you said things isn't the best way to express this. I offered my subjective point of view to show you a different perspective. So far in all the replies I've read from you, you keep insisting that the CGI looks bad, in a way that disregards the other persons opinion on the issue. I don't want you to agree with me, I want you to accept my opinion. It's about that you say things in a way that automatically implies that the other person is wrong. You say that CG pasted over 2D looks bad. I tell you that I like it. You respond by still saying it's bad. If you were right, that would mean that I couldn't like it, and as a matter of fact, nobody could like it. The OP likes it, I like it, and a lot of other people like it. You don't like it. I accept that. I would like it if you accept it too that I like it, and not try to prove to me that it still sucks. In this case, you are wrong, because you make definite statement based off of a subjective opinion. These are your words: "That’s not true. The problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so it looks bad." You say that OP is wrong about what he said and you also say that 3D is being pasted over 2D so it automatically looks bad. Looking at this statement alone, it is 100% correct as long as everybody who reads it agrees with it. This is why I gave you my subjective view. I agree with the OP, that rewatching scenes and getting used to them can help liking it better. It works for me and it works for @Kyxor as well. This means that your statement can by default not be seen as correct. It changes the definite "that's not true" to a subjective "that's not true for me". I also mentioned that I like most of the CGI and don't think it looks bad or pasted. MOST of it. This then changes your other statement to "the problem is that it’s 3D pasted over 2D so to me it looks bad." To you it looks bad, to me it looks good. Some people share your point of view, and others share mine. In our subjective opinions, we are both right. A subjective opinion is only wrong when it's being generalized. My “That’s not true” is objective because the OP is trying to say we don’t like it because of science reasons which is definitely “not true”. By me not liking it not because of the science explanation of the OP already shows it’s not true objectively cause science is objective. I replied to the OP’s statement that basically says “science says you don’t like it cause of this” which implies that it’s a fact statement cause it’s science. OP is definitely wrong because he used science and not his opinion. A subjective opinion is not wrong just cause it’s being generalized. It’s like you’re saying an opinion is wrong just cause many agrees with it lol It's good we're slowly reaching a consensus here. While science is never wrong, your "that's not true" can still not be seen as objective, due to the fact that even though this might not apply to you, OP statement does apply to me, which means that what he says does work. I think we shouldn't use the term science here, since the situation isn't something that flatout applies to literally everything the same way all the time. The thing OP describes is more of a psychological process, and this is different from person to person, so we can't say that "watch it and you'll get used to it" is the only factor playing a role here. After all it comes down to how much you want to enjoy what you're watching. Finally we agree. OP shouldn’t have used science to say we don’t like it cause we’re not used to it. There are many factors as liking is purely subjective and different for each person. Yeah it depends on what a person’s preferences on what they enjoy when watching and unfortunately, CGI on 2D backgrounds bother me. I’ll still watch it though for the top tier story. Yeah, nice that we agree. I hope we can all enjoy the next episode now! |
Jan 16, 2021 4:04 PM
#111
| for real tho why ppl complain about the CGI despite they did their best to give us the final season as soon as possible |
Jan 17, 2021 4:47 PM
#112
| To be honest, when i'm watching SNK final season i don't even realize that it looks different. |
Jan 17, 2021 7:37 PM
#113
| I definitely didn't think it was good, but its not like it drastically took away from my enjoyment of the episode or anything |
Jan 24, 2021 5:50 PM
#114
epicchad100 said: I definitely didn't think it was good, but its not like it drastically took away from my enjoyment of the episode or anything same it takes way more than cg to ruin a show as good as aot |
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Jan 24, 2021 5:54 PM
#115
| Hand drawn animation is rarely used anymore in animation. Even 2D animation is mostly drawn on the computer now. |
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