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Dec 21, 2020 12:49 PM
#1
So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. |
Dec 21, 2020 1:02 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:05 PM
#3
I gueee it's more relateable to the average early teen japanese girl. Just like Kenshiro is relateable to the average japanese teen boy. |
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Dec 21, 2020 1:08 PM
#4
I would imagine shoujo has a tendency to be as realistic as possible to create that "I can relate to that" feeling. But like, small oppai > big oppai |
Dec 21, 2020 1:10 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:14 PM
#6
Catalano said: So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Shouji is intended for young female audience. I think u already know what gender of people are more interested in big boobs... |
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Dec 21, 2020 1:18 PM
#7
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Dec 21, 2020 1:25 PM
#8
Adampk said: Catalano said: So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Shouji is intended for young female audience. I think u already know what gender of people are more interested in big boobs... I understand but you could also draw them with a big chest or let's say bigger than most of the girls and never show any cleavage or sexy scenes, of course no one watches Ultramaniac for ecchi fanservice |
Dec 21, 2020 1:29 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:31 PM
#10
its targeted towards girls anyway and usually they do not have big boobs yet in real life |
Dec 21, 2020 1:33 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:36 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:36 PM
#13
Not that well-developed chest is easiest way to make female character look young, you'd be better off finding big breasts in shoujo (manga) if it's smutty and focuses on adult characters instead of school kids. There's also the fact most people find young and smaller looking girls/women cute, and usually shoujo characters are designed to look cute instead of sexy. |
Dec 21, 2020 1:37 PM
#14
You could say that SEX SELLS. Guys normally want to see them big. I think. Hence shounen chicks usually have either big badonkadonks or flat chested so they can make boob jokes or make the flattie jealous and hit the boobs and what not. I prefer shoujo girls, since it's more natural. |
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Dec 21, 2020 1:46 PM
#15
Personally, I think it's because shoujo is aimed at teen girls, and they often have teen girls as main characters . From one point of view, it is really just an art style thing, and is probably aiming to look more realistic. There is one other point though, big boobs are often sexualised and bit pandering at times (depending on the type of anime, of course). Anyways, coming from a female perspective, It's uncomfortable seeing girls our age or younger with unrealistic bodies, especially if it feels somewhat sexualised., or something like that I guess... I personally find it uncomfortable anyways. It's especially uncomfortable if she's underage. I think That's why shoujo girls are normally,pretty flat, with bodies that match their age more, they rely on the personalities to make them relatable to girls, without having any sex appeal. One possible reason could be that it may make young girls feel like having an attractive body is the way to be valued as a female, which would honestly be an unhealthy message for young teen girls 13+ (which is normally,about the entry age for the shoujo demographic, although any age can watch and enjoy). It might not be good for them, given how they are often insecure enough about their bodies at that age as it is. Just one point of view though, some shoujo girls have larger breasts but rarely to the extent seen in some other genres |
Dec 21, 2020 1:52 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 1:55 PM
#17
Catalano said: Adampk said: Catalano said: So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Shouji is intended for young female audience. I think u already know what gender of people are more interested in big boobs... I understand but you could also draw them with a big chest or let's say bigger than most of the girls and never show any cleavage or sexy scenes, of course no one watches Ultramaniac for ecchi fanservice i think its not just ecchi, It's more about perspective. Example shoujo boys appearance look weird to me. They are like one of those shallow looking overpopuler guy who I could never relate to. Maybe Its same for girls. Though exception are there Eg - maid sama or Cutie Honey Flash or Hana yori Dango has a fair amount of boob. It's just that too big boobs is sexualizing a character, so still it fall's under ecchi catagory even if cleavages are not shown |
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Dec 21, 2020 2:00 PM
#18
konkelo said: There's also the fact most people find young and smaller looking girls/women cute, and usually shoujo characters are designed to look cute instead of sexy. Now that I think about it, girls watching shoujo anime would prefer cute instead of sexy. @Aimee27 that was a very good read, thanks, the girls in ultra maniac are 15 if I remember correctly, I put a pic of them in the spoiler, they look ok |
Dec 21, 2020 2:06 PM
#19
Catalano said: Shojo means young girls not adult men.So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. |
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Dec 21, 2020 2:10 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 2:16 PM
#21
Azuchi said: flat chested so they can make boob jokes or make the flattie jealous and hit the boobs and what not. This should be punishable by jail + fine. |
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Dec 21, 2020 2:20 PM
#22
backdoornight said: It should be. it should stop being normalized.Azuchi said: flat chested so they can make boob jokes or make the flattie jealous and hit the boobs and what not. This should be punishable by jail + fine. |
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Dec 21, 2020 2:39 PM
#23
Aimee27 said: I'll also point out here since you brought up characters being relatable for young teens, there's often a moment where the mc or some other girl is insecure about her body and especially her small breasts and comparing to other girl or adult and the story gives a message about being ok in your own body. Where often in shounen it's used as a joke more or less.I think That's why shoujo girls are normally,pretty flat, with bodies that match their age more, they rely on the personalities to make them relatable to girls, without having any sex appeal. One possible reason could be that it may make young girls feel like having an attractive body is the way to be valued as a female, which would honestly be an unhealthy message for young teen girls 13+ (which is normally,about the entry age for the shoujo demographic, although any age can watch and enjoy). It might not be good for them, given how they are often insecure enough about their bodies at that age as it is. Just one point of view though, some shoujo girls have larger breasts but rarely to the extent seen in some other genres |
Dec 21, 2020 2:42 PM
#24
Catalano said: So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. its because Shoujo are normally written by women who don't wanna objectify their female characters. Simple as that lmao |
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Dec 21, 2020 2:46 PM
#25
Yeah. I think shoujo is just trying to be realistic, which I find respectable. |
Dec 21, 2020 2:54 PM
#26
F*ck no. Keep your F-cupped ditzes out of my shoujo, PLEASE. Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Yes >_> https://myanimelist.net/anime/521/Mermaid_Melody_Pichi_Pichi_Pitch?q=mermaid&cat=anime Lol this freaking show...everyone is HUGE...is it distracting? Yes, it bloody is. Sailor Jupiter in Sailor Moon is also said to "have the biggest breasts"...and while she doesn't look "big" by shounen standards, she does by shoujo's. |
Dec 21, 2020 2:57 PM
#27
I do not watch shoujo but man, in general anime girls have nonsensical boobs. Like, either perfect model D or E boobs, or generaly WAY WAY over the normal average size and especially for high school girls. if it's true that shoujo girls have little boobs... then either it's really the case and there are lots of reasons, either OP's sense of reality is legitimately warped because of animes and he thinks they're small when they're just normal. |
Dec 21, 2020 3:07 PM
#28
Catalano said: Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Sabage-bu: I'd say Katarina from Hamefura has a respectable chest aswell. |
Dec 21, 2020 3:14 PM
#29
NextUniverse said: I would imagine shoujo has a tendency to be as realistic as possible to create that "I can relate to that" feeling. But like, small oppai > big oppai We can go deeper. B-Cup > A-Cup > C-Cup > Washboard > D-Cup > anything over D-Cup. |
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Dec 21, 2020 3:23 PM
#30
I wouldn't say shoujo art is more realistic per se, but the goals of the art styles are certainly different. I think we could use more variety in shoujo/josei protagonists body types sometimes. also, bishonen creep me out just as much as moe girls (but not as much as hypersexualized underaged girls). I'm a big fan of shoujo/josei art in general though and honestly favor it over the other demographics when it comes to art. above all i just like when artists resist the limiting conventions of their genres and/or aspire to genuine realism. if a mangaka just wants to bite off of umino chika or yazawa ai or okazaki kyoko's style i respect that tho because they are amazing. |
Dec 21, 2020 3:26 PM
#31
I mean, it's not like shounen protagonists have all that much sex appeal either. Think of your average otome romance option. 95% of the shounen protags won't look even close. And in the rare instance where they look comparably attractive (Black Butler, Pandora Hearts maybe) the show will have a significantly higher reception from female viewers and a lot less so from male viewers. In both shojo and shonen, the idea is to make the target demographic not feel too intimidated by the main character whom they should sympathize with and even relate to at times. They should be down-to-earth, and by that I mean not a supermodel since most people are not supermodels. |
Dec 21, 2020 3:31 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 3:50 PM
#33
Auron_ said: I mean, it's not like shounen protagonists have all that much sex appeal either. Hmm....? I respectfully disagree. xD |
Dec 21, 2020 3:58 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 4:02 PM
#35
Catalano said: So I was watching Ultramaniac and Boku no Chikyuu wo Mamotte (2nd rewatch) and I noticed that all girls have decent breast sizes and some are just washboards. Then, I made some research and noticed that it is true to lots of shoujo anime (Orange, Nana, Kimi ni Todoke), yes, I know it could be an art style thing, most girls there are skinny and making them big chested would look weird, I can't imagine Kuronuma Sawako with big booby. Anyways, does shoujo anime girls deserve bigger boobs? Can you name a shoujo anime with big chested waifus, I would be interested to know. Has to appeal to the main demographic which is japanese teenage girls so they make them look like the majority to make them appealing. That's also the same reason why most shonen protagonists are thin not that tall boys. |
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Dec 21, 2020 4:03 PM
#36
I don't really watch those type of series, but I'm pretty sure they weren't made with the intention of shoving tig ol' bitties in your face. |
Dec 21, 2020 4:06 PM
#37
Chiibi said: Auron_ said: I mean, it's not like shounen protagonists have all that much sex appeal either. Hmm....? I respectfully disagree. xD Well I had already considered Kenshin and Seraph guy as part of the 5% while making the post, if that makes you feel any better lol. They are there... just not many. |
Dec 21, 2020 4:08 PM
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Dec 21, 2020 4:22 PM
#39
Honestly, I can think of more I find sexy than ones I do not though...I'm certain I could name a good twenty of them or so...and I KNOW the other female members here would agree, shounen feautures PLENTY of hot male characters. |
ChiibiDec 21, 2020 4:29 PM
Dec 21, 2020 4:24 PM
#40
I think its mainly for the audience to relate more to the characters. |
Dec 21, 2020 4:53 PM
#41
Chiibi said: Honestly, I can think of more I find sexy than ones I do not though...I'm certain I could name a good twenty of them or so...and I KNOW the other female members here would agree, shounen feautures PLENTY of hot male characters. Well okay, I'm certainly not gonna debate you on how you should feel. That's just where I come from. To get a perspective I just looked over top 100 most popular shonen and got 6 protagonists that I found particularly good-looking (not just "he looks decent" but rather "I can see him bringing value to how this show was received through his sex appeal"). In 100-200 it was 4. Granted there were multiple entries of some franchises which I skipped over but it largely applies. |
Dec 21, 2020 4:56 PM
#42
Auron_ said: I just looked over top 100 most popular shonen and got 6 protagonists that I found particularly good-looking (not just "he looks decent" but rather "I can see him bringing value to how this show was received through his sex appeal"). Huh...I didn't think of doing that....I am kinda curious now. Will look, myself. xD maybe I'm just easy to please lol [Edit] Okay...there are QUITE a few that I find attractive and were purposely designed that way to lure female audiences in. I would conclude that: Shounen series do try to attract female audiences but shoujo series don't try nearly as hard with male ones cause they don't care about doing that. xD |
ChiibiDec 21, 2020 5:13 PM
Dec 21, 2020 5:46 PM
#43
Maybe they're not girls from hentai. |
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Dec 22, 2020 2:23 AM
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Dec 22, 2020 2:26 AM
#45
I haven't seen too many Shojo anime but maybe so the Person watching it can relate to it more? I'm clueless at this type of stuff lol |
Dec 22, 2020 2:59 AM
#46
It's because Shojo are intended for females and their fanservice is just too many generic handsome boys.Girls with big boobs do not exist in anime(quote me if you know a shojo anime that have girls with big boobs) they only exist in Shonen. |
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Dec 22, 2020 3:20 AM
#47
welcome to the world outside the male gaze |
Dec 22, 2020 6:55 AM
#48
Because shoujo is a genre that tries to appeal to a female audience, not to a male one. If they could they'd just keep on showing muscular men or dicks everywhere, but since its harder to show such things without nudity, or simply going the hentai route, you are left with very sublime things instead. |
Dec 22, 2020 6:57 AM
#49
They are mostly written by women and aimed at young girls. |
Dec 6, 2022 9:55 PM
#50
I would also like to see more shoujo girls with big boobs. I mean we also want to feel included besides they don't have to make them super size like a car. I get they want to make the jokes about the flat chested girls and the so called relatable thing but that's just an excuse most of the time or saying they want them to not feel ashamed or what not! We E,F,G can not relate to that small chested feeling! Despite being between an E and F myself I don't have back pain due to my strong bone structure and stretches but what about the big breasted women that do have back pain? And it's not like there aren't any jokes they could use about our boobs. I'm just tired of only seeing big breasted women in heram stories or as the villainess or a vriend of the main character. |
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