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Jun 8, 2023 7:11 AM

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@inim @whiteflame55 Treasure Island it is, although I think Lupin ended up with 6 points (3+1+2, wait I just refreshed the page and your points for Lupin have gone, what witchcraft is this lol), so we'll do that after if that's ok. I'll create a thread. @inim glad things have settled down and thanks for the heads up about YLIA, I've heard similar complaints elsewhere. I felt the same with Durarara, it was just cap nip for teens wanting to appear cool/edgy and apart from couple of characters I didn't enjoy it overly much.
Jun 8, 2023 7:28 AM

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23feanor said:
@inim @whiteflame55 Treasure Island it is, although I think Lupin ended up with 6 points (3+1+2, wait I just refreshed the page and your points for Lupin have gone, what witchcraft is this lol), so we'll do that after if that's ok.
That is the same witchcraft at work as with the Eurovision Song Constest, where Dog don't eat dog and Scandinavia will vote for Scandinavia. Thanks for doing the thread and your understanding of a dirty vote :D

Jun 8, 2023 5:10 PM

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inim said:
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@23feanor I'm good with doing YLIA if @inim needs some time. As for the usual list, top 3:
An update on my situation. Things calmed down a bit on June 1st, the disaster didn't strike. Phew. Also, my annual AWS challenge chore is complete and submitted, so I no longer have "must watch" items. Welcome back freedom of choice. However, I admittedly also suffer a bit from anime fatigue. But the option to punish you with the abomination that is YLIA by neglectance is a horror, so I'm in again :D Sorry Kaori, the plot device among the waifus. I'm dead serious guys, watch something worth your time, this is teen kitsch and along with Psycho Pass one of the worst highly hyped shows I ever sat trough.

Tactical voting in the face of knowing your lists feels a bit dirty ... but, Lupin has 4 points and whatever I vote, only Kobato., Banana Fish and Treasure Island could beat it with 5+ points. I'm seriously interested in watching more Dezaki. The math of tactical voting is tricky here, not only must TI win, also Bananafish and Lupin must not get points or they win accidentially! Thus:
  1. Treasure Island (3+2=5pt)
  2. abstain
  3. abstain
I hope that's OK @23feanor, my suggestion would be to do Lupin right after that because we all have it listed (or would have ...).


Works for me. Also, per your suggestion, I'll put YLIA on a semi-permanent backburner, at least until I become interested enough in subjecting myself to whatever horrors reside therein.
Jul 2, 2023 2:22 AM

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To the best of my understanding we've voted for Lupin III (2015) as winnerrunner-up to Treasure Island (1978), so I've just created a thread for that show. Will start next Saturday if there's no veto.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2103580

Jul 2, 2023 5:50 AM

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inim said:
To the best of my understanding we've voted for Lupin III (2015) as winnerrunner-up to Treasure Island (1978), so I've just created a thread for that show. Will start next Saturday if there's no veto.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2103580
I'm good with that. Looking forward to it!
Jul 2, 2023 10:29 PM

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inim said:
To the best of my understanding we've voted for Lupin III (2015) as winnerrunner-up to Treasure Island (1978), so I've just created a thread for that show. Will start next Saturday if there's no veto.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2103580


Sounds good, thanks for creating the thread
Jul 4, 2023 7:03 AM

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@23feanor raised the question about Gundam UC0079 (Universal Century) watching. It's true that it's my long term plan to cover that particular timeline, as it's both the original and many say best in the franchise. My next watch would be heart if that timeline, Kidou Senshi Zeta Gundam (1985). It helps a lot to have a look at the chronological time line. UC0079 is like a tree with a stem, which is the linear story of the Zeon vs. Earth conflict from the 10,000 foot view, i.e. decisive battles, politics, terrorist attacks and so on which impact the human race as a whole. In UC0079, this would be in order:
  1. 6 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/10937/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__The_Origin
  2. 43 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/80/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam
  3. 13 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/84/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_0083__Stardust_Memory
  4. 50 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/85/Kidou_Senshi_Zeta_Gundam
  5. 47 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/86/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_ZZ
  6. movie https://myanimelist.net/anime/87/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__Gyakushuu_no_Char
There are plenty of side stories one may or may not consider part of the timeline, e.g. 08th MS team (Gundam in Vietnam), War in the Pocket (How we took the space stations), Thunderbolt (War is hell, Jazz-Arthouse edition) and so on. I personally would like to only cover the absolute necessities first, and to me that the list above. Many of the other chronological entries were retrofit decades later, this also is kind of the original release order. In that one, ZZ is said to be weak (it's Zeon's 2nd attempt to invade Earth, so back and forth we go) and maybe can be skipped. Same argument for "Victory". For details of what is a good and what is a bad side story, see e.g. https://www.cbr.com/best-gundam-anime-ranked/

I'm currently at "Stardust Memory" which is a skipable 1 cour show motivating the secret police units playing a major role in Zeta. Basically a young Zeon officer survived and creates a rather powerful terror group of old nazisloyal Zenon supporters. As a result, Earth becomes a bit of a police state. The show is average, at about the same quality level as the original Gundam. The real treat is Zeta, and that would be next. I'd personally skip ZZ then, and finalize with Counter Attack.
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Jul 4, 2023 8:11 AM

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inim said:
@23feanor raised the question about Gundam UC0079 (Universal Century) watching. It's true that it's my long term plan to cover that particular timeline, as it's both the original and many say best in the franchise. My next watch would be heart if that timeline, Kidou Senshi Zeta Gundam (1985). It helps a lot to have a look at the chronological time line. UC0079 is like a tree with a stem, which is the linear story of the Zeon vs. Earth conflict from the 10,000 foot view, i.e. decisive battles, politics, terrorist attacks and so on which impact the human race as a whole. In UC0079, this would be in order:
  1. 6 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/10937/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__The_Origin
  2. 43 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/80/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam
  3. 13 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/84/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_0083__Stardust_Memory
  4. 50 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/85/Kidou_Senshi_Zeta_Gundam
  5. 47 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/86/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_ZZ
  6. movie https://myanimelist.net/anime/87/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__Gyakushuu_no_Char
There are plenty of side stories one may or may not consider part of the timeline, e.g. 08th MS team (Gundam in Vietnam), War in the Pocket (How we took the space stations), Thunderbolt (War is hell, Jazz-Arthouse edition) and so on. I personally would like to only cover the absolute necessities first, and to me that the list above. Many of the other chronological entries were retrofit decades later, this also is kind of the original release order. In that one, ZZ is said to be weak (it's Zeon's 2nd attempt to invade Earth, so back and forth we go) and maybe can be skipped. Same argument for "Victory". For details of what is a good and what is a bad side story, see e.g. https://www.cbr.com/best-gundam-anime-ranked/

I'm currently at "Stardust Memory" which is a skipable 1 cour show motivating the secret police units playing a major role in Zeta. Basically a young Zeon officer survived and creates a rather powerful terror group of old nazisloyal Zenon supporters. As a result, Earth becomes a bit of a police state. The show is average, at about the same quality level as the original Gundam. The real treat is Zeta, and that would be next. I'd personally skip ZZ then, and finalize with Counter Attack.


That's very useful, especially the list and links, so thanks very much. Iron Blooded Orphans warmed me up to the gundam franchise a bit. After the Origin 6 OVA series I'll be onto the UC, and War in the Pocket. If you still haven't gotten around to it, and @whiteflame55 and I have caught up (according to mal only War in the Pocket and Stardust Memory), then maybe Zeta could be a far future group watch.
Jul 4, 2023 9:13 AM

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23feanor said:
inim said:
@23feanor raised the question about Gundam UC0079 (Universal Century) watching. It's true that it's my long term plan to cover that particular timeline, as it's both the original and many say best in the franchise. My next watch would be heart if that timeline, Kidou Senshi Zeta Gundam (1985). It helps a lot to have a look at the chronological time line. UC0079 is like a tree with a stem, which is the linear story of the Zeon vs. Earth conflict from the 10,000 foot view, i.e. decisive battles, politics, terrorist attacks and so on which impact the human race as a whole. In UC0079, this would be in order:
  1. 6 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/10937/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__The_Origin
  2. 43 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/80/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam
  3. 13 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/84/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_0083__Stardust_Memory
  4. 50 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/85/Kidou_Senshi_Zeta_Gundam
  5. 47 eps https://myanimelist.net/anime/86/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_ZZ
  6. movie https://myanimelist.net/anime/87/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam__Gyakushuu_no_Char
There are plenty of side stories one may or may not consider part of the timeline, e.g. 08th MS team (Gundam in Vietnam), War in the Pocket (How we took the space stations), Thunderbolt (War is hell, Jazz-Arthouse edition) and so on. I personally would like to only cover the absolute necessities first, and to me that the list above. Many of the other chronological entries were retrofit decades later, this also is kind of the original release order. In that one, ZZ is said to be weak (it's Zeon's 2nd attempt to invade Earth, so back and forth we go) and maybe can be skipped. Same argument for "Victory". For details of what is a good and what is a bad side story, see e.g. https://www.cbr.com/best-gundam-anime-ranked/

I'm currently at "Stardust Memory" which is a skipable 1 cour show motivating the secret police units playing a major role in Zeta. Basically a young Zeon officer survived and creates a rather powerful terror group of old nazisloyal Zenon supporters. As a result, Earth becomes a bit of a police state. The show is average, at about the same quality level as the original Gundam. The real treat is Zeta, and that would be next. I'd personally skip ZZ then, and finalize with Counter Attack.


That's very useful, especially the list and links, so thanks very much. Iron Blooded Orphans warmed me up to the gundam franchise a bit. After the Origin 6 OVA series I'll be onto the UC, and War in the Pocket. If you still haven't gotten around to it, and @whiteflame55 and I have caught up (according to mal only War in the Pocket and Stardust Memory), then maybe Zeta could be a far future group watch.
The question is if you "need" pocket and stardust. If you look at the chrono page in the "release order" section, you'll find that both were created after ZZ and Char's Counterattack, but chronologially put before it. Both of them have 100% different cast, and mainly fill in small details of the "big picture plot" that is Gundam - Z - ZZ. 08th MS team is another "technical prequel", as is Thunderbolt. All of them take place during the 1 year war which Gundam (main TV show) completely covers. They are basically zoom ins into different fronts of that war "only".

It may be interesting to know that Zeta is said to have a dark tone, and ZZ then is the brighter replay for kids. Victory is set 100 years after the 1 year war, and very dark again. Tomino during that period suffered from depression, but unlike Anno was not able to channel it into dark genius(Evangelion) - only into bleak mediocracy. Thus rather than ZZ and Victory, I'd go for shows within the timeline with more critical acclaim (e.g. Unicorn) or from different timelines (Iron Blooded, and mst interestingly "00").

Thus: The 4 side stories (Stardust, Pocket, Thunderbolt and 08th Team) are all good, all are quick watches (1 cour or OVA), and none of them is required for the big picture. Thus Zeta imho is ready. It's the mountain we can't skip to climb, regardless of what path is taken in the valley.

Jul 4, 2023 11:29 AM

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@23feanor @inim I'd be up for doing this. Stardust is 13 episodes and Pocket is a 6 episode OVA. Thunderbolt looks like it comes in 4 pieces (2 movies and 2 4 episode ONAs), and 08th Team is a 12 episode OVA. So it'll take a minute to get through them (not too long, but I'll put them in the queue - they'll just replace Witch of Mercury, which was going to be next for me anyway), but from the looks of things, we don't really have to in order to watch Zeta. I'm good with planning to do Zeta next, sounds like ZZ and Victory may be dispensable so we can move onto Unicorn or the like after that.
Jul 4, 2023 11:44 AM

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whiteflame55 said:
Thunderbolt looks like it comes in 4 pieces (2 movies and 2 4 episode ONAs), and 08th Team is a 12 episode OVA.
As with almost all things Gundam, the movies and the ONA are alternative cuts of the same material, choose one. There may be a literal minute of bonus material in one cut or the other, to force hardcore fans to buy both. But practically: the same thing.

Jul 4, 2023 11:45 AM

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inim said:
whiteflame55 said:
Thunderbolt looks like it comes in 4 pieces (2 movies and 2 4 episode ONAs), and 08th Team is a 12 episode OVA.
As with almost all things Gundam, the movies and the ONA are alternative cuts of the same material, choose one. There may be a literal minute of bonus material in one cut or the other, to force hardcore fans to buy both. But practically: the same thing.
Got it, that will make things simpler. I'll put them on the ptw list and start watching once I'm done with Black Lagoon.
Jul 5, 2023 12:00 AM

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@inim @whiteflame55 useful to know that Pocket and Stardust can be watched later, so happy to add Zeta to the group watch list selection.
Aug 14, 2023 10:15 AM

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Reply to @23feanor's question in https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2109983&msgid=69697311#msg69697311
My three favorites for next round (1=3, 2=2, 3=1 points) are:
  1. Banana Fish (2018)
  2. Sailor Moon (1993)
  3. Skip Beat (2009)
Here's the list with watched shows edited out and ones suggested for addition edited in.

Aug 15, 2023 5:37 AM
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So, just Season 1 of Sailor Moon (43 episodes)? That actually ends at a good spot.

As for Arslan Senki, neither the OVA nor the TV version really resolve the plot. They're good but might annoy people, with incompleteness.

Here's another one I heard about recenty, Blue Gender a science fiction show from 2000. the scores aren't that high, at 7/10 but the reviews are all pretty good.
cipheronAug 15, 2023 7:55 AM
Aug 15, 2023 7:56 AM

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@23feanor @inim

Ah, the list returns! I'm certainly willing to continue the Gundam watch at some point, though given my and @23feanor's recent binge, I'd like to give it some space before we get back to it. Lupin III: Part 5 is another one I'd definitely consider more strongly for future watches.

1. Banana Fish (2018)
2. Skip Beat (2009)
3. Lovely Complex (2007)
Aug 15, 2023 8:39 AM

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@inim @whiteflame55

We've got 8 eps and 1 OVA for Mitsudomoe left and then something new. My top 3 would be:

1. Sailor Moon - I'm looking forward to diving into that 90's purple dreaming feel, iirc the nickname derives chiefly from the pink/purple backgrounds of shows like SM
2. Kobato
3. Bounen no Xamdou

@cipheron I think the plan would be just the first season of Sailor Moon (46 eps on mal), but depending on how the other watchers feel we could progress to the later series, but that would be a big time commitment (>100 eps)

I'm on a roll with gundam and planning to pick up Origins next, so after that a break from the franchise will probably be warranted, but looking forward to Zeta in the not too distant future.

I'm good with Banana Fish next, don't know much about it apart from the fact there's a BL element.
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@inim @whiteflame55

We've got 8 eps and 1 OVA for Mitsudomoe left and then something new. My top 3 would be:

1. Sailor Moon - I'm looking forward to diving into that 90's purple dreaming feel, iirc the nickname derives chiefly from the pink/purple backgrounds of shows like SM
2. Kobato
3. Bounen no Xamdou

@cipheron I think the plan would be just the first season of Sailor Moon (46 eps on mal), but depending on how the other watchers feel we could progress to the later series, but that would be a big time commitment (>100 eps)

I'm on a roll with gundam and planning to pick up Origins next, so after that a break from the franchise will probably be warranted, but looking forward to Zeta in the not too distant future.

I'm good with Banana Fish next, don't know much about it apart from the fact there's a BL element.
The full Sailor Moon would be about a 6 month commitment. 46 + 43 + 38 + 39 + 34 = 200 episodes.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes would take about half as long.

Aug 15, 2023 11:00 AM

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Banana Fish (2018): From what I see it's the shoujo version of Akiba Maid Wars, i.e. mafia bishounen doing crime and drugs. Basically a shoujo target audience but without a female MC. And unlike Maid Wars, with a dark and serious tone. I'm a mafia show fan, so Banana is high on my list (seen most others). It's noitaminA, so for an adult audience with a brain.

Sailor Moon (1992): Season 1 is good enough for a start, full 200 eps maybe later. I just want to know what the show is about. Easy watch, all 200 eps exist in German BlueRay dub quality. Also a lot of fillers, see https://medium.com/@oddlazdo/a-filler-reduced-viewing-guide-to-sailor-moon-season-1-d64a7d5c158d
Maybe we can agree to kick some of the writing, I often take longer to write a smart synopis than to watch the actual episode. I'd want to watch all eps, but in the back of my head just pay real attention and write when the story actually moves. The article is a proven guide, it says:
the tl;dr:

✮ The bare minimum “required” episodes: 1, 8, 10, 13, 25, 32–36, 44–46.
Total of 13 out of 46 episodes.

✮ Required + all potential recommended episodes: 1, 3, 8–10, 13–15, 19, 22–27, 30–36, 42, 44–46.
Total of 26 out of 46 episodes.

There are shorter broadcast versions, e.g. the initial censored and re-cut dub lost 7 episodes in US and Germany. One ep isn't dubbed to German until this day (VAs probably died meanwhile, so will never happen). We'd need to be very coordinated about the releases we use to stay in sync.

Blue Gender (1999): Watched and loved it. First cour is sensational, almost a 9/10, but the 2nd half drags it down to a good 7/10 for me. In any case a hidden gem. @cipheron 256 character verdict:
Grim-dark, post-apocalyptic military sci-fi with crappy production values. But direction and characters shine, with a simple and raw yet captivating story. A very mature, nihilistic gem in the rough, raising ethical questions far above it's pay group.
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@inim personally I'd like to watch at least every episode in S1 of Sailor Moon, as same as you I want to get a feel for the show. I don't think 200 eps would be feasible in a group watch, we'd get so bored of SM after a while. Longest watch we've done is Fruits Basket iirc and that was ok because it's a brilliant show, not sure SM has the same stamp of quality throughout (I could be wrong). I also quite like filler, depending on the show, some of the One Piece fillers are really good. One of the reasons I'm most looking forward to SM is the aesthetic.

Maybe we could do Banana Fish next and SM after that?

@cipheron Blue Gender looks good and has the @inim stamp of approval (always a good sign), added to my ptw list, thanks.
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cipheron said:

The full Sailor Moon would be about a 6 month commitment. 46 + 43 + 38 + 39 + 34 = 200 episodes.


Plus a good fistful of Specials, Side Stories & Memorial Recaps. And let's not forget Crystal. Bonus Points if you also get through the PGSM Real Live Series. I've heard rumors that it's really cheesy in comparison. ;-)
Aug 16, 2023 3:36 AM
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Happosama said:
cipheron said:

The full Sailor Moon would be about a 6 month commitment. 46 + 43 + 38 + 39 + 34 = 200 episodes.


Plus a good fistful of Specials, Side Stories & Memorial Recaps. And let's not forget Crystal. Bonus Points if you also get through the PGSM Real Live Series. I've heard rumors that it's really cheesy in comparison. ;-)

Things like the suggested 13 episode watch also miss part of the point. Friendship is an important part of the story, and the anime devotes more time to depicting those relationships, including in the filler. So the friendships grow over time, and skipping a lot of that to just get the main story points would rob the S1 ending of much of the impact.
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@inim personally I'd like to watch at least every episode in S1 of Sailor Moon, as same as you I want to get a feel for the show. I don't think 200 eps would be feasible in a group watch, we'd get so bored of SM after a while. Longest watch we've done is Fruits Basket iirc and that was ok because it's a brilliant show, not sure SM has the same stamp of quality throughout (I could be wrong). I also quite like filler, depending on the show, some of the One Piece fillers are really good. One of the reasons I'm most looking forward to SM is the aesthetic.

Maybe we could do Banana Fish next and SM after that?
I'm good with that watch order. Likely be good to move forward with our Gundam series watches after that.
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whiteflame55 said:
23feanor said:
Maybe we could do Banana Fish next and SM after that?
I'm good with that watch order. Likely be good to move forward with our Gundam series watches after that.
Thread created: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2112421

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I thought it could work, so I spent a couple of hours putting this python script together

import re
import requests

MAX_SCORED_USERS = 1  # Set the maximum number of scored users here
MIN_UNSCORED_USERS = 2   # Set the minimum number of un-scored users here

def read_usernames_from_file(filename):
    with open(filename, "r") as f:
        usernames = [line.strip() for line in f]
    return usernames

def process_anime_data(username, content, anime_data):
    anime_section_pattern = re.compile(r'<h2>Unique to <a href="/profile/{}">{}</a></h2>'.format(username, username))
    anime_entry_pattern = re.compile(r'<a href="/anime/(d+)/[^"]*">([^<]*)</a> </td>\s*<td class="borderClass " align="center"><span class="">([^<]*)</span></td>')

    anime_section_match = anime_section_pattern.search(content)
    
    if anime_section_match:
        search_region = content[anime_section_match.end():]
        print(f"DEBUG: Search region length for {username}: {len(search_region)}")
        
        anime_entry_matches = anime_entry_pattern.findall(search_region)
        print(f"DEBUG: Found {len(anime_entry_matches)} anime entry matches for {username}")
        
        for anime_id, anime_name, anime_score in anime_entry_matches:
            anime_id = int(anime_id)
            
            if anime_id not in anime_data:
                anime_data[anime_id] = {
                    "name": anime_name.replace("_", " "),
                    "total_users": 0,
                    "scored_users": 0,
                    "seen_users": [],
                    "want_users": [],
                    "total_score": 0,
                }
            
            anime_data[anime_id]["total_users"] += 1
            if anime_score.isnumeric():
                anime_score = int(anime_score)
                anime_data[anime_id]["scored_users"] += 1
                anime_data[anime_id]["seen_users"].append(username)
                anime_data[anime_id]["total_score"] += anime_score
            else:
                anime_data[anime_id]["want_users"].append(username)  # Add username to "want_users" list

def generate_combined_csv(anime_data):
    with open("combined_anime_data.csv", "w", encoding="utf-8") as f:
        f.write("ID,Name,Total Users,Scored Users,Average Score,Seen,Wantn")
        for anime_id, anime_info in anime_data.items():
            unscored_users = anime_info['total_users'] - anime_info['scored_users']
            if (anime_info['scored_users'] <= MAX_SCORED_USERS and
                unscored_users >= MIN_UNSCORED_USERS):
                if anime_info['scored_users'] == 0:
                    average_score = "_"
                else:
                    average_score = anime_info['total_score'] / anime_info['scored_users']
                seen_str = '/'.join(anime_info['seen_users']) if anime_info['seen_users'] else "None"
                want_str = '/'.join(anime_info['want_users']) if anime_info['want_users'] else "None"
                
                if average_score != "_":
                    average_score = f"{average_score:.2f}"  # Format average score with two decimal places
                
                f.write(f"{anime_id},{anime_info['name']},{anime_info['total_users']},{anime_info['scored_users']},{average_score}," f"Seen:{seen_str},Want:{want_str}n")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    base_url_template = "https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2="
    usernames = read_usernames_from_file("users.txt")
    anime_data = {}

    for username in usernames:
        url = base_url_template + username
        response = requests.get(url)
        response.raise_for_status()
        content = response.text
        
        print(f"DEBUG: Processing data for {username}")
        process_anime_data(username, content, anime_data)
    
    generate_combined_csv(anime_data)


How this works is it's like the Shared Anime feature but for multiple users. The trick it uses is to do request to get the "shared anime" between each listed MAL Later Years member and an inactive account with almost no shows listed. Then it filters and compares the results for each of us.

MAX_SCORED_USERS = how many people are allowed to have scored a series

MIN_UNSCORED_USERS = the minimum number of people who have to have a show on their list but with no score (probably PTW etc)

You make a file users.txt and list the names of all users you want to include. I included

23feanor
inim
whiteflame55
filifjonkan
cipheron


The script outputs a CSV which can be pasted into Excel or Google Sheets:

ID,Name,Total Users,Scored Users,Average Score,Seen,Want
51265,Inu ni Nattara Suki na Hito ni Hirowareta.,3,1,2.00,Seen:inim,Want:23feanor/cipheron
51009,Jujutsu Kaisen 2nd Season,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:23feanor/whiteflame55
48417,Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Kayou II,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:23feanor/whiteflame55
9510,Mitsudomoe Zouryouchuu!,3,1,6.00,Seen:inim,Want:23feanor/whiteflame55
51179,Mushoku Tensei II: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:23feanor/whiteflame55
53379,Uchi no Kaisha no Chiisai Senpai no Hanashi,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:23feanor/cipheron
51552,Watashi no Shiawase na Kekkon,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:23feanor/whiteflame55
40515,Nihon Chinbotsu 2020,3,1,6.00,Seen:filifjonkan,Want:inim/cipheron
48624,Re:cycle of the Penguindrum,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:inim/cipheron
37804,Shirobako Movie,2,0,_,Seen:None,Want:inim/cipheron


So that's a report for every anime where at least two people from the group have it unscored, and no more than one person has it scored. The report also averages-out any scores given, so if a show was seen by inim, we can also see what score he gave. So maybe Inu ni Nattara Suki na Hito ni Hirowareta isn't worth actually checking out despite me and Feanor both tagging the show, if inim gave it 2/10.

You can reduce the MIN_UNSCORED_USERS value to 1, MAX_SCORED_USERS to 0, and get a much bigger report of every show that any of us have on PTW that none of the others have seen.

That's it for now, but I'll add info from the database to the results, such as episode count, year and average site score. So basically put anything on your PTW lists you think would be a good group watch and this script will automatically pick it up.
cipheronAug 22, 2023 5:05 AM
Aug 21, 2023 3:04 PM

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Cool idea to script the process, that'll be really useful. For some reason I get empty output though. And a word of warning: shared.php is not 100% correct, it hides entries on hold and displays dropped ones. Never really tried to understand the logic behind that, tbh. However, Penguindrum movie is something I definitely dropped, but it shows as want in your CSV. My own CSV is empty. Using python3 on Ubuntu 22.04 running in Windows 11 WSL2 container.
inim@bender:~/x$ python3 mal.py
DEBUG: Processing data for 23feanor from https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2=23feanor
DEBUG: Search region length for 23feanor: 282167
DEBUG: Found 0 anime entry matches for 23feanor
DEBUG: Processing data for inim from https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2=inim
DEBUG: Search region length for inim: 428579
DEBUG: Found 0 anime entry matches for inim
DEBUG: Processing data for whiteflame55 from https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2=whiteflame55
DEBUG: Search region length for whiteflame55: 95807
DEBUG: Found 0 anime entry matches for whiteflame55
DEBUG: Processing data for filifjonkan from https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2=filifjonkan
DEBUG: Search region length for filifjonkan: 84587
DEBUG: Found 0 anime entry matches for filifjonkan
DEBUG: Processing data for cipheron from https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=FUCKING&u2=cipheron
DEBUG: Search region length for cipheron: 404085
DEBUG: Found 0 anime entry matches for cipheron

Aug 21, 2023 11:35 PM

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@cipheron thanks for that, although looking at the results most of the proposed shows are sequels or movies (ie Shirobako movie, Re:cycle of Penguindrum) or shows like Inukai-sans Dog. So far we have a list of 17 shows listed below, plus there's a few other suggestions somewhere in this thread (thinking of Eureka Seven), so we've got plenty of shows to keep us going for a while. Really impressive bit of coding and hopefully with a few tweaks it'll come up with some new suggestions. As a side note, plenty of shows we pick up on our group watch aren't on my radar, let alone on my ptw list, such as ACCA-13, Magical Guruguru, Banana Fish, Treasure Island, Romeo & Black Brothers, so we don't need to only look at shows in our collective ptw lists, just shows we all haven't seen and peak our interest.

Arslan Senki (1991)
Baby and Me (once full sub available) (1996)
Banana Fish (2018)
Bounen no Xamdou (2008)
Joshiraku (2012)
Kanon 2006 (2006)
Kidou Senshi Zeta Gundam (1986)
Kikou Souseiki Mospeada (1983)
Kobato. (2009)
Kokkoro Connect (2012)
Lovely Complex (2007)
Lupin III: Part 5 (2018)
Ore Monogatari (2015)
Sailor Moon (1993)
Silver Fang (1986)
Skip Beat (2009)
Tenjo Tenge (2004)
Aug 22, 2023 3:23 AM
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23feanor said:
@cipheron thanks for that, although looking at the results most of the proposed shows are sequels or movies (ie Shirobako movie, Re:cycle of Penguindrum) or shows like Inukai-sans Dog


It's a proof of concept, that was with the most restricted settings. With the next looser set of settings it listed 150 shows so I couldn't paste the report here.

From that longer one, one I noticed was Pumpkin Scissors. I watched a few eps and have that on hold, has nobody else here got that on their list? Pumpkin Scissors is definitely an interesting show so I would say that's worth a look.

Another one that popped up was Jungle Tatei / Kimba the White Lion, which both me and Inim have listed. That's 52 episodes though.

Also, the way I'm extracting people's lists is by a hacky workaround abusing the "shared anime" page. But i found out this one doesn't actually include peoples PTW items, only Watching, Completed and On Hold. So the results could be improved if I can work out a way to pull people's PTW lists as well from inside Python.
cipheronAug 22, 2023 3:38 AM
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cipheron said:
23feanor said:
@cipheron thanks for that, although looking at the results most of the proposed shows are sequels or movies (ie Shirobako movie, Re:cycle of Penguindrum) or shows like Inukai-sans Dog


It's a proof of concept, that was with the most restricted settings. With the next looser set of settings it listed 150 shows so I couldn't paste the report here.

From that longer one, one I noticed was Pumpkin Scissors. I watched a few eps and have that on hold, has nobody else here got that on their list? Pumpkin Scissors is definitely an interesting show so I would say that's worth a look.

Another one that popped up was Jungle Tatei / Kimba the White Lion, which both me and Inim have listed. That's 52 episodes though.

Also, the way I'm extracting people's lists is by a hacky workaround abusing the "shared anime" page. But i found out this one doesn't actually include peoples PTW items, only Watching, Completed and On Hold. So the results could be improved if I can work out a way to pull people's PTW lists as well from inside Python.


My knowledge of coding is pretty basic but sounds like you know your stuff. Will be interesting to see what shows the programme throws out. Pumpkin Scissors looks like the type of show we'd add to the group watch list. I have added the mal group members as friends so can easily see whether they've watched a show or not. Have sent you a FR so I can do the same for shows you've seen. Other shows I remember thinking might be good for a group watch were:

Secrets of Cerulean Sands 2002
Tears to Tiara 2009

Also Pumpkin Scissors

Potentially another 3 entries for future group watches. They're the sort of unknown shows that none of us has watched but sound interesting.
Aug 22, 2023 5:04 AM
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@inim, just saw your post there.

The issue was a single missing \ which got interpreted by MAL as an escape code. Corrected above and here:

anime_entry_pattern = re.compile(r'<a href="/anime/(d+)/[^"]*">([^<]*)</a> </td>\s*<td class="borderClass " align="center"><span class="">([^<]*)</span></td>')

As for using the impefect Shared page, yeah I always knew that wasn't a long-term solution but it was a quick way to work this out as a proof of concept.

I'm already working on something that will be a lot better.\
Sep 13, 2023 9:53 AM

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Banana Fish is soon complete, so it's high time for the next pick.
Last list is at https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1872213&id=69697447

Are we ready for Gundam Zeta meanwhile? What about Sailor Moon?

Sep 13, 2023 10:12 AM

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inim said:
Banana Fish is soon complete, so it's high time for the next pick.
Last list is at https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1872213&id=69697447

Are we ready for Gundam Zeta meanwhile? What about Sailor Moon?


After watching LotGH and all the pre-Zeta gundam entries, I'm a bit worn out of space mech/action so wouldn't mind getting around to Sailor Moon, but am easy if that's what you both want to watch, or another show from the list.
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Reply to inim
Banana Fish is soon complete, so it's high time for the next pick.
Last list is at https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1872213&id=69697447

Are we ready for Gundam Zeta meanwhile? What about Sailor Moon?
inim said:
Banana Fish is soon complete, so it's high time for the next pick.
Last list is at https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1872213&id=69697447

Are we ready for Gundam Zeta meanwhile? What about Sailor Moon?


I'm good with either one.
Sep 14, 2023 10:37 PM

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Made a thread for Zeta as remembered that @botnetMAL wanted to watch Zeta as well. After that we'll get around to Sailor Moon as it's one of those classic series with a large impact on anime that I haven't seen yet and want to get around to. Plus the pink/purple feeling.
Dec 15, 2023 1:00 AM

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@whiteflame55 it's nearly that time again. Looks like we'll finish Sailor Moon on the 22nd December, so was thinking maybe take a few days off for festive period and start the next show on Wednesday 27th December? I've listed all the shows mentioned in our previous list, but was wondering whether, if @inim is still on hiatus, we would pick up Chihayafuru, and if we like it we could watch all 3 seasons as we did with Fruits Basket? If not I'm happy to go with anything on the list as usual. Ofc if @inim will be joining us then we can do a top 3 picks from the list below and go with that.

Arslan Senki (1991)
Baby and Me (once full sub available) (1996)
Bounen no Xamdou (2008)
Joshiraku (2012)
Kanon 2006 (2006)
Kikou Souseiki Mospeada (1983)
Kobato. (2009)
Kokkoro Connect (2012)
Lovely Complex (2007)
Lupin III: Part 5 (2018)
Ore Monogatari (2015)
Silver Fang (1986)
Tenjo Tenge (2004)
Secrets of Cerulean Sands (2002)
Tears to Tiara (2009)
Pumpkin Scissors (2006)
23feanorMar 8, 8:19 AM
Dec 15, 2023 5:39 AM

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@23feanor Indeed, we're at that point. I agree that we put in a bit of a lull to account for the holiday, so I'm good with starting back up on the 27th.

As for which one to choose for a watch (Banana Fish is still on that list you've got there), I would absolutely be up for Chihayafuru. It's coming up soon on my ptw shortlist as it is and I think it would be nice to do it as we did with FruBa. As for the top 3 picks from that list in case @inim is joining us, I'd go with these:

Lupin III: Part 5 (2018)
Skip Beat (2009)
Kobato (2009)
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