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Dec 10, 2020 1:01 AM
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confirmation from the animator that 3DCG is use to speed up the production

Sorry if this has been asked before or is a dumb question but has MAPPA's choice to use CG for the titans helped out in any way?

When a studio does this kind of things, its either so that they can finish things quicker or there is not enough people who are able to draw these scenes. The titans are very hard you know! Rare are the times this is done for a creative reason ( such as houseki no kuni!)

https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336752524594843648


Has anyone copied the the tweet as it was deleted
 
Dec 10, 2020 1:04 AM
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I've seen the unblurred images on the twitter page and all I can ask is why did they choose to blur it in the first place.

Truly, my biggest complain.


Aren't the unblurred a fan edit
 
Dec 10, 2020 1:05 AM
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Mattinator95 said:
deg said:
confirmation from the animator that 3DCG is use to speed up the production

Sorry if this has been asked before or is a dumb question but has MAPPA's choice to use CG for the titans helped out in any way?

When a studio does this kind of things, its either so that they can finish things quicker or there is not enough people who are able to draw these scenes. The titans are very hard you know! Rare are the times this is done for a creative reason ( such as houseki no kuni!)

https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336752524594843648


Has anyone copied the the tweet as it was deleted


he deleted all his tweets since yesterday looks like he got into trouble with the higher ups

anyway i just copied and pasted the tweet as it is this parts

Sorry if this has been asked before or is a dumb question but has MAPPA's choice to use CG for the titans helped out in any way?

When a studio does this kind of things, its either so that they can finish things quicker or there is not enough people who are able to draw these scenes. The titans are very hard you know! Rare are the times this is done for a creative reason ( such as houseki no kuni!)
 
Dec 10, 2020 1:20 AM

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Mattinator95 said:
HyperL said:
I've seen the unblurred images on the twitter page and all I can ask is why did they choose to blur it in the first place.

Truly, my biggest complain.


Aren't the unblurred a fan edit


i've created a topic,he actually did the episode though but its illegal to link here
 
 
Dec 10, 2020 4:06 AM
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I am just getting a boner watching the unblurred version of the episode. Be sure to check it out for once people. So many minute details are masked by that obnoxious filter. IMHO the CG especially the Armored looks better without the desperate blending attempt. I couldn't notice any drawbacks personally but am open to rectifications.

The guy who did this: https://twitter.com/Miish3lov/status/1336366387409920003?s=08


https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880958&show=0#msg61354209


















Just finished downloading it and mine does not look that saturated right of the bat, I have tho increase the saturation myself for it to look like that.

Il be saying more things about it after I finish some things
 
Dec 10, 2020 4:39 AM
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MAQS said:
Bhaskar_Singh said:
I am just getting a boner watching the unblurred version of the episode. Be sure to check it out for once people. So many minute details are masked by that obnoxious filter. IMHO the CG especially the Armored looks better without the desperate blending attempt. I couldn't notice any drawbacks personally but am open to rectifications.

The guy who did this: https://twitter.com/Miish3lov/status/1336366387409920003?s=08


https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880958&show=0#msg61354209


















Just finished downloading it and mine does not look that saturated right of the bat, I have tho increase the saturation myself for it to look like that.

Il be saying more things about it after I finish some things

Yes I have altered the digital vibrance from my nvidia control panel and did some changes in my video Player as well. Basically I just increased saturation as much as I liked. Its easy.
 
Dec 10, 2020 4:52 AM
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Bhaskar_Singh said:
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Just finished downloading it and mine does not look that saturated right of the bat, I have tho increase the saturation myself for it to look like that.

Il be saying more things about it after I finish some things

Yes I have altered the digital vibrance from my nvidia control panel and did some changes in my video Player as well. Basically I just increased saturation as much as I liked. Its easy.



Options on MPCHC does the trick easy.

But I dont really like this saturation for this arc, I prefer the natural colors.

I really cannot wait to compare the amount of lost details
 
Dec 10, 2020 4:57 AM
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Yoshimichi Kameda worked on opening of final season so we can expect him in actual episodes and some one also said that titan transformation are done by him
Skjilani said:
Yoshimichi Kameda worked on opening of final season so we can expect him in actual episodes and some one also said that titan transformation are done by him
did he? Where's the source to confirm that?

https://twitter.com/midori_aoi034/status/1336367665221312513?s=19
 
 
Dec 10, 2020 5:00 AM
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Wow, I gotta say I was expecting the CGI would not blend as well without the Blur but it pretty much is the same but with more detail, Zeke does not look worst at all, I hope this guy eventually does this same work for the BD version once it comes out.
 
Dec 10, 2020 5:01 AM
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MAQS said:
Bhaskar_Singh said:

Yes I have altered the digital vibrance from my nvidia control panel and did some changes in my video Player as well. Basically I just increased saturation as much as I liked. Its easy.



Options on MPCHC does the trick easy.

But I dont really like this saturation for this arc, I prefer the natural colors.

I really cannot wait to compare the amount of lost details

Yeah. The blur is gone at least.
 
Dec 10, 2020 5:37 AM
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Is there a way to thicken the lines of the characters so they don't look that flat?
 
 
Dec 10, 2020 5:53 AM
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they're the new JC Pierrot

also staff overwork is shitty and brings shit quality more often than not,Akudama drive didn't work the staff and it looks amazing (and it was made by JC pierrot nonetheless)


also it sems verceek confirms my fears,episode 1 indeed would be the best quality.
No, he said the climax episodes will have the same quality or even better. If they handle the climax episodes good then we are good. But they are fixing some of the other episodes. I think we have to wait till episode 5-7 to make a review. I personally dont think mappa will screw this. Hayashi is a good director and the cgi was outsourced to Studio V-Sign. We will see mappas best animation later, mark that
The problem lies within if all of the CGI titan fights are done by this company. I liked Reiner and the Jaw design but the best couldve done with a few touch ups
 
Dec 10, 2020 9:15 AM
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OD just posted this,(it's about the pacing for the next episodes)
https://twitter.com/ThatShiny_Hex/status/1337082396542267393
Any ideas ?
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Dec 10, 2020 10:35 AM
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OD just posted this,(it's about the pacing for the next episodes)
https://twitter.com/ThatShiny_Hex/status/1337082396542267393
Any ideas ?


It seems they are rearringing the order of scenes, which makes sense since Seko did the same for Uprising which had the same pacing as this, I wonder if he is just gonna do that with with marley arc or also with the next one after ch 107?
 
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idk but they better not
 
Dec 10, 2020 11:48 AM
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Idc if they use CGI in all the Fights, but if they do my boy Reiner dirty, then this adaptation will be trash for me.
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Dec 10, 2020 12:14 PM
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tsunderek0 said:
idk but they better not


I am 100% sure there will be some amount of cuts there, be it very few or substantial
 
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Idc if they use CGI in all the Fights, but if they do my boy Reiner dirty, then this adaptation will be trash for me.


Then I guess trash it will be indeed be for you.
 
Dec 10, 2020 12:21 PM

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MAQS said:
tsunderek0 said:
idk but they better not


I am 100% sure there will be some amount of cuts there, be it very few or substantial


and I'll be crying into my pillow from now on then. yams stop them this is your boy
 
Dec 10, 2020 12:23 PM
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2 chapters an episode (85-100 pages, so half a volume) is pretty quick, especially for a dialogue heavy arc and how previous seasons weren't paced this quick. I'm fine with restructuring scenes and story placements so long as it doesn't harm the overall narrative flow of the arc. If things are changed and put in weird/inappropriate sections that would suck. I'm assuming this is being done because of the pacing of this season due to the number of episodes they were given, and how cuts will have to be made to a certain degree. it's not an Uprising situation where Isayama disliked the arc and requested the studio to change it. I know cuts will happen I just hope it's nothing major, like Reiner's flashback arc getting major cuts.

Also, if this arc ends on episode 9 how are they going to adapt the next one (107-122) in only 7 episodes? I honestly feel like 20 overall for both arcs (so 10 episodes each) would have been better than 16.
 
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tsunderek0 said:
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I am 100% sure there will be some amount of cuts there, be it very few or substantial


and I'll be crying into my pillow from now on then. yams stop them this is your boy


The recent Animator who had to delete all his tweets about the state of the production said Isayama takes a look at the script changes and has a say in them.

Also Seko has been working on AOT from day 1, and recently adpated Vinland Saga and Mob Psycho.

They guy is seriously one of the best scriptwriters in the industry adapting manga, oh and he also wrote the lost girls light novel.

Only Isayama himself has more experience with AOT than him
 
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2 chapters an episode (85-100 pages, so half a volume) is pretty quick, especially for a dialogue heavy arc and how previous seasons weren't paced this quick. I'm fine with restructuring scenes and story placements so long as it doesn't harm the overall narrative flow of the arc. If things are changed and put in weird/inappropriate sections that would suck. I'm assuming this is being done because of the pacing of this season due to the number of episodes they were given, and how cuts will have to be made to a certain degree. it's not an Uprising situation where Isayama disliked the arc and requested the studio to change it. I know cuts will happen I just hope it's nothing major, like Reiner's flashback arc getting major cuts.

Also, if this arc ends on episode 9 how are they going to adapt the next one (107-122) in only 7 episodes? I honestly feel like 20 overall for both arcs (so 10 episodes each) would have been better than 16.


Marley arc will end at ep 8, meaning ch 106.

And Yes 20 eps overall would have been the best pacing, But I guess the committee is back again fucking shit up.

Even if Isayama had a say with the rearrangement of the uprising arc he doesn't get a say with the number of eps approved, that is the dominion of the committee
 
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despite the quick pacing of this arc (2 chapter an episode on average) that's why I'm not so worried since this dude seems to be pretty heavily acclaimed. He also seems to have a deep love and understanding of the source material based on his relation to the production over the years. Also the fact he has written an AoT novel says a lot as well.
 
 
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Also, if this arc ends on episode 9 how are they going to adapt the next one (107-122) in only 7 episodes? I honestly feel like 20 overall for both arcs (so 10 episodes each) would have been better than 16.


Even goddamn 18 would've been manageable. Unless they can start cramming action chapters even more cut content is inevitable. Production committee messed the episode count hard if we're getting to 122.

I remember everyone speculating that 28-30 episodes (pacing of 1.5-1.8) being the bare the bare minimum to adapt till the end well and but now at the pace we're going the adaptation will be done at 24 episodes of content.

Increasing the pace of post 122 and giving this part more time would've been a much smarter decision as well
 
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New OST by Sawano for final season
https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0
 
Dec 10, 2020 12:39 PM
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spiderboi said:


Also, if this arc ends on episode 9 how are they going to adapt the next one (107-122) in only 7 episodes? I honestly feel like 20 overall for both arcs (so 10 episodes each) would have been better than 16.


Even goddamn 18 would've been manageable. Unless they can start cramming action chapters even more cut content is inevitable. Production committee messed the episode count hard if we're getting to 122.

I remember everyone speculating that 28-30 episodes (pacing of 1.5-1.8) being the bare the bare minimum to adapt till the end well and but now at the pace we're going the adaptation will be done at 24 episodes of content.

Increasing the pace of post 122 and giving this part more time would've been a much smarter decision as well


I agree as well, especially with the pace of this being more meticolus and them increasing the pace for post 122. 16 episodes would have been fine if they were ending at 116. Yea, even 18 (9 for each arc) would have been good as well with very minor cuts being made.
 
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New OST by Sawano for final season
https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0


Man this is amazing. Sounds like something you would hear in S1 and that makes it even better
 
 
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PrasantGrG said:
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Also, if this arc ends on episode 9 how are they going to adapt the next one (107-122) in only 7 episodes? I honestly feel like 20 overall for both arcs (so 10 episodes each) would have been better than 16.


Even goddamn 18 would've been manageable. Unless they can start cramming action chapters even more cut content is inevitable. Production committee messed the episode count hard if we're getting to 122.

I remember everyone speculating that 28-30 episodes (pacing of 1.5-1.8) being the bare the bare minimum to adapt till the end well and but now at the pace we're going the adaptation will be done at 24 episodes of content.

Increasing the pace of post 122 and giving this part more time would've been a much smarter decision as well


Had this be the first time its happening I would be terribly worried, but since we have Uprising before, which is a inferior version of the story imo, but still was pretty solid overall and it adapted a very good AOT arc not a GREAT one like this one.

Also had Seko not come back as main writer then I would have lost all faith on this adaptation, yes I regard him more important than even freaking Hayashi.
 
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MAQS said:
PrasantGrG said:


Even goddamn 18 would've been manageable. Unless they can start cramming action chapters even more cut content is inevitable. Production committee messed the episode count hard if we're getting to 122.

I remember everyone speculating that 28-30 episodes (pacing of 1.5-1.8) being the bare the bare minimum to adapt till the end well and but now at the pace we're going the adaptation will be done at 24 episodes of content.

Increasing the pace of post 122 and giving this part more time would've been a much smarter decision as well


Had this be the first time its happening I would be terribly worried, but since we have Uprising before, which is a inferior version of the story imo, but still was pretty solid overall and it adapted a very good AOT arc not a GREAT one like this one.

Also had Seko not come back as main writer then I would have lost all faith on this adaptation, yes I regard him more important than even freaking Hayashi.


Hiroshi Seko is that much of a game changer? How come? Seems he didn't work at all on season 3 part 1 which had complaints of pacing/cut content. I'm assuming he's very talented, knowing how to priortize the content of an adaptation, when dealing with cuts or changes. He did the script for vinland saga which was pretty good, although a bit slower paced compared to the manga. Also did mob psycho, i dont know how that compares to the manga though.
 
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