| I mean I understand the thinking patterns of everyone in the show but she is just evil. Yes she was deceived but trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you (which is the main principal of marxism and universal vote "democracy" which is actually comunism) is evil. The is why Envy is considered a capital sin. Oh and what they are trying to do will result in basically everybody dying and few remaining living in mud and crap huts |
| I'm pretty sure a lot of people dislike Nana, myself included Synchrohayba said: I dont want to spoil , but they went into detail about nana's nature and motive in the manga It doesn't matter what her motives are (and tbh I don't care about her sob backstory), that doesn't excuse what she's doing |
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| I don't hate her, but don't know why I should root or care for her. Her reasons right now don't sound very convincing for me. |
| Wouldn't say I hate her but Im looking forward to finding her out |
28012001 said: Evil is evil . Machivelli said: road to hell is paved with good intentions. Killing someone for something they may do or for something someone like them did in the past is in no way justifiable. The anime is great I just hate her and consider her an evil dumb girlnightcrawlercyp said: I mean I understand the thinking patterns of everyone in the show but she is just evil. Yes she was deceived but trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you (which is the main principal of marxism and universal vote "democracy" which is actually comunism) is evil. The is why Envy is considered a capital sin. Oh and what they are trying to do will result in basically everybody dying and few remaining living in mud and crap huts I still didn't root for her as well even though she is a waifu now. Assume that she did out of envy, maybe. But you better read the manga up to the later chapters you won't hate her at all. Galenus15 said: Not sure what you mean by "trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you". It was clearly explained that the talented are dangerous and the government gave her this mission. Unless you're talking about future events from the manga (which you shouldn't be doing here, there's manga in MAL for a reason) you completely missed the point of what she's doing The story parallels how domestic violence laws first came out that justifies a woman killing her man under the unproven claims of her abusing her. Men are 3-4 times stronger than women so laws were given to protect those not as strong against them, men are generally more intelligent than women so the school system was mapped to give women an advantage. They are dangerous for the governments just because they cannot control them, just because they have the power to oppose being turned into mindless drones. |
nightcrawlercypOct 19, 2020 5:45 AM
| Sorry still does not justify it for me. Is just an excuse for morally weak people a couch. Also again you cannot judge someone based on something that may become or may do. |
nightcrawlercyp said: Sorry still does not justify it for me. Is just an excuse for morally weak people a couch. Also again you cannot judge someone based on something that may become or may do. |
PrideRoyalIvyOct 19, 2020 6:55 AM
| Nope I love her, she's taking on people who way more powerful than her. I hope she ends killing everyone on the island, that would be epic. |
| Anime only here and have been spoilt already. Mod Note: Edited quote |
dipItFooOct 27, 2020 8:25 PM
Well spoiler highlight is over there. We are not too blame. Plus if you don t agree thats fine. I expect people to hate Nana I hate her myself not anymore though. Her reasons are base breaking. To each our own Mod Note: Edited quote |
dipItFooOct 27, 2020 8:26 PM
| Nope you are not the only one here.I hate her too but she is an interesting character.One of the most unique mc I have ever seen. |
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| Let's just say what she's doing is not right, dun hate her but surely won't like her either. |
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| I kind of see it as a Death Note situation. Now, in no way do I want to compare Death Note to this anime, as they are completely different, but I feel the same way about the protagonist in both shows. Both of the characters brush off their murders nonchalantly, as if it was justified. Humanity fears the unknown, so they often resort to murder/massacres. We now live in a much more peaceful world where we understand the wrong we committed in the past, and resolve to never act out such atrocities again. Which is why characters like Nana who basically gives other children death sentences simply because of an unknown factor aren't who we cheer for. Rather, we want these guys to be defeated. Rather than having the mindset of "watching a bad person be a protagonist" story, think of it as "watching the downfall of a bad guy" story. Now, I am unsure where they will take Talentless Nana. Perhaps they would attempt to redeem her, but hopefully not. But considering, occasionally I question the logic of this anime harshly sometimes, it may make me question it again by going in that direction. Otherwise, I'm quite enjoying this anime :) |
Meowingtrash said: I kind of see it as a Death Note situation. Now, in no way do I want to compare Death Note to this anime, as they are completely different, but I feel the same way about the protagonist in both shows. Both of the characters brush off their murders nonchalantly, as if it was justified. Humanity fears the unknown, so they often resort to murder/massacres. We now live in a much more peaceful world where we understand the wrong we committed in the past, and resolve to never act out such atrocities again. Which is why characters like Nana who basically gives other children death sentences simply because of an unknown factor aren't who we cheer for. Rather, we want these guys to be defeated. Rather than having the mindset of "watching a bad person be a protagonist" story, think of it as "watching the downfall of a bad guy" story. Now, I am unsure where they will take Talentless Nana. Perhaps they would attempt to redeem her, but hopefully not. But considering, occasionally I question the logic of this anime harshly sometimes, it may make me question it again by going in that direction. Otherwise, I'm quite enjoying this anime :) Well, honestly, I was behind Light up until the Misa part. That being said I would have started with politicians bankers, lawyers , police officers. Except for few departments police force is part of leeches that oppress the citizens in the name of the government. Also Light kills people that actually did something to deserve while Nana kills people that might have a chance to do so in the future. Is a big difference. Is like the question: if you go back in time would you kill Hitler as a child? And yes this is how I am watching it. Just as when I read Twilight and wanted Edward to die after the few first pages (unfortunately that hope was ruined) I want her to fail. I am enjoying the anime as well, I just hate Nana. |
nightcrawlercyp said: I think she probably has a reason to hate the "true" enemies of mankind, which are all the students. Maybe her family got killed (most likely) by one of such super-freaks? Of course, her actions can't be justified as she refuses to believe that one of the students can actually HELP mankind, but some kind of trauma must have affected her into becoming a monster that she is. No hate though...I just don't care that much about the characters of this show I guess.I mean I understand the thinking patterns of everyone in the show but she is just evil. Yes she was deceived but trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you (which is the main principal of marxism and universal vote "democracy" which is actually comunism) is evil. The is why Envy is considered a capital sin. Oh and what they are trying to do will result in basically everybody dying and few remaining living in mud and crap huts |
firstawahono said: 1. spoiler alertI guess you will be happy to watch next episode bcs nana will be raped 2. not really, no. |
nightcrawlercypNov 1, 2020 2:23 AM
 I haven't read the manga and I doubt this will happen, but you still made me curious. |
| Yeah, I hate her too. She's a psychopath, but that's fine by me. What makes her so awful is her being absolutely dumb and a tool of her handlers. Sheeple like her deserve only bad ends. |
| Well I think that she's meant to be hated so you want to root for the talented to win and expose her |
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| MC isn't like a pure hearted battle shonen hero = bad show This syllogism is so nonsensical, but many seem to think like this. |
| Nana is awesome. A refreshing MC for sure. I honestly want to see her kill everyone on the island because seeing the interesting ways she does it and how she manages to get away with it is extremely entertaining. Episode 5 had me yelling out "oh shit" quite a few times. |
| Shouldn't fictional characters that are evil suffer for their crimes? Or should we go the Disney route where no one gets to feel the consequences of their bad actions? |
| i strongly dislike nana |
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| She's a villain protagonist, and she's the reason I'm watching this show at all. If the show was actually like the first episode made it appear to be I never would have stated in the first place. |
nightcrawlercyp said: I mean I understand the thinking patterns of everyone in the show but she is just evil. Yes she was deceived but trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you (which is the main principal of marxism and universal vote "democracy" which is actually comunism) is evil. The is why Envy is considered a capital sin. Oh and what they are trying to do will result in basically everybody dying and few remaining living in mud and crap huts I think she is very interesting character. I can't remember when I had last time such conflicted feelings like this series gives me for MC. Whole time watching this I'm sitting on the edge of my chair and rooting for her. I really wish Nana to succeed but same time I really wish that someone would capture her and make her pay dearly what she has done. She is so sad character who really should get bullet in her head to end her misery. I both like her and hate her same time. :( She kinda like reminds me those Soviet era female snipers. Did you know, that in WW2 Soviet Russia's best snipers were women because they discovered that women can recover faster from psychological impact than men could and women were in generally better killers because that. The reason is that when women feels like their home or children are endangered they can recover faster from emotional trauma and can be bushed to do horrible things for their homes in the name of motherland. Men snipers tended to hesitate when they did see enemy face in their scope but women could kill them without remorse. Some of women in Soviet army could even be more ruthless than men where. Where men suffered emotionally because what they did see or did. Women on other hand could block those emotions more easily thus enabled them to do more horrible things. One of the worst thing for male enemy soldier would be to get captured by full female squad. You would think that male could do horrible things to their prisoners but it was walk in the park compared what might have happened to those who were captured females if those females were crazy enough and no one was reining them down. And crazy things did happen at eastern front a lot. There was so much trauma, hate and revenge there that untold insanities happened all the time and most of times nobody cared. Think about that. Nana has probably lost her family and she wants revenge against every talented. She also see them as threat for talentless humans and thus for "her potential family". Make no mistake, at that point she is pure killer and nothing more and she should be killed without mercy. There is no redemption for her at this point. But I really like characters which raises emotional turmoil inside of me. It doesn't matter if character is good or bad. I'm so bored all these one dimensional bored black & white characters which we usually see in TV. Those are boring. Best one are those who are shitty characters. Characters which have flaws. Many might hate Nana because they she evil and they can't relate to her same way they can relate to some random happy princess or hero/heroine. Those characters rarely triggers our feelings. Nana other hands causes hate and that makes her "good" character. You shouldn't hate MC. You should hate what she is and like the anime because Nana makes that anime really good. This anime is hidden gem of the season. I fell love for this anime. This is so good. It reminds me Death Note and Danganronpa. |
RavenWolf1Nov 1, 2020 3:22 PM
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Florete said: She's a villain protagonist, and she's the reason I'm watching this show at all. If the show was actually like the first episode made it appear to be I never would have stated in the first place. Yeah. I almost dropped the show at half way of episode one. I was so lucky that I watched it to end. This is now with The Journey of Elaina my AOT for sure. |
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RavenWolf1 said: nightcrawlercyp said: I mean I understand the thinking patterns of everyone in the show but she is just evil. Yes she was deceived but trying to kill or incapacitate everyone that is better than you (which is the main principal of marxism and universal vote "democracy" which is actually comunism) is evil. The is why Envy is considered a capital sin. Oh and what they are trying to do will result in basically everybody dying and few remaining living in mud and crap huts I think she is very interesting character. I can't remember when I had last time such conflicted feelings like this series gives me for MC. Whole time watching this I'm sitting on the edge of my chair and rooting for her. I really wish Nana to succeed but same time I really wish that someone would capture her and make her pay dearly what she has done. She is so sad character who really should get bullet in her head to end her misery. I both like her and hate her same time. :( She kinda like reminds me those Soviet era female snipers. Did you know, that in WW2 Soviet Russia's best snipers were women because they discovered that women can recover faster from psychological impact than men could and women were in generally better killers because that. The reason is that when women feels like their home or children are endangered they can recover faster from emotional trauma and can be bushed to do horrible things for their homes in the name of motherland. Men snipers tended to hesitate when they did see enemy face in their scope but women could kill them without remorse. Some of women in Soviet army could even be more ruthless than men where. Where men suffered emotionally because what they did see or did. Women on other hand could block those emotions more easily thus enabled them to do more horrible things. One of the worst thing for male enemy soldier would be to get captured by full female squad. You would think that male could do horrible things to their prisoners but it was walk in the park compared what might have happened to those who were captured females if those females were crazy enough and no one was reining them down. And crazy things did happen at eastern front a lot. There was so much trauma, hate and revenge there that untold insanities happened all the time and most of times nobody cared. Think about that. Nana has probably lost her family and she wants revenge against every talented. She also see them as threat for talentless humans and thus for "her potential family". Make no mistake, at that point she is pure killer and nothing more and she should be killed without mercy. There is no redemption for her at this point. But I really like characters which raises emotional turmoil inside of me. It doesn't matter if character is good or bad. I'm so bored all these one dimensional bored black & white characters which we usually see in TV. Those are boring. Best one are those who are shitty characters. Characters which have flaws. Many might hate Nana because they she evil and they can't relate to her same way they can relate to some random happy princess or hero/heroine. Those characters rarely triggers our feelings. Nana other hands causes hate and that makes her "good" character. You shouldn't hate MC. You should hate what she is and like the anime because Nana makes that anime really good. This anime is hidden gem of the season. I fell love for this anime. This is so good. It reminds me Death Note and Danganronpa. I would not say they recover faster, I would say they are children. They have less empathy with the enemy so they can be more cruel. It reminds of a small psychopath that for some reason is the hero of many children's books despite being a serial killer and a mad man known as Peter Pan. |
| I kind of have mixed feelings, she seems like such an interesting character, one that brings a ton of drama to the story. As a villain protagonist, she's doing a wonderful job. |
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| Its not just you, I literally want to bitch slap her, idc if shes wrong or right, she just pisses me off lol |
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| Here's the thing, I certainly don't like her but, at the same time, I don't hate her either. Kind of like L v Light, I'm just looking forward to the mind games and whatnot. |
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| When I compare Nana to the other characters, I feel she has the most normal personnality among them. So yes, I root for her because all the others are crazies. (Except maybe for Michiru, looks like every superpower/fantastical anime needs a pure innocent girl who heals her friends) |
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