https://cover-corp.com/2020/09/27/200927-1/ -------------------------------- Follow-up statements as of 2020-09-30 https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1311143423169101824 https://cover-corp.com/2020/09/30/093002/ -------------------------------- Everyone knows it wasn't really about disclosure of channel stats. But because Youtube analytics displayed Taiwan as a country, which riled up Chinese viewers when the vtubers mentioned their channel stats. Honestly, 3 weeks suspension for such a minor thing is horrendous. This is a prime example of why you shouldn't do business in China if you can help it, because China will own you. Cover effectively threw their own talent and Taiwanese fans under the bus. |
SlawadiaSep 29, 2020 9:43 PM
| Korone video acknowledging Taiwan is also being spread (original video has been privated). I wonder if Cover will be consistent and suspend her as well. |
| lol I saw this since I put my twitter trending to japan(So I don't have to see the America cancer). Sakura miko said nagger and other streamers did to. Nothing happened to them which was hilarious(and should be the norm) when westerns cried about it. I'm surprised though, I didn't know Japanese stuff was bound by china. |
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hololive has a chinese branch and probably has chinese investors. they also sometimes do collaborations with chinese brands (like azur lane) |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: lol I saw this since I put my twitter trending to japan(So I don't have to see the America cancer). Sakura miko said nagger and other streamers did to. Nothing happened to them which was hilarious(and should be the norm) when westerns cried about it. I'm surprised though, I didn't know Japanese stuff was bound by china. they have a pretty big Chinese fanbase (they stream a lot on bilibili) so it's no surprise some lame nationalists would get super triggered over simply just mentioning Taiwan |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Slawadia said: hololive has a chinese branch and probably has chinese investors. they also sometimes do collaborations with chinese brands (like azur lane) https://twitter.com/NOTbotI/status/1310374883965181952?s=20 someone said they are going to harrass her to. |
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| That explains why Haachama didn't have her ASMR session. It doesn't help that Billibilli requires you to literally dox yourself to stream, putting the Chinese talent in danger (this is where all Hololive CN talent stream). It's a lose-lose situation and this is one reason why you do not take the money from the mainland under any circumstances. Kayle_x_Morgana said: Slawadia said: hololive has a chinese branch and probably has chinese investors. they also sometimes do collaborations with chinese brands (like azur lane) https://twitter.com/NOTbotI/status/1310374883965181952?s=20 someone said they are going to harrass her to. Yeah until Coco is fired or Hololive leaves China, the latter being the best option, even though that's also risky due to Chinese talent as these mindless CCP puppets want as much blood as possible and they'll just turn their ire to the Chinese talent. Hololive leaving China will save a lot of hassle in the long run even though the risks are still great. |
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| Damn, suspended for 3 weeks, by just mentioning and acknowledging Taiwan? |
indrawn said: Damn, suspended for 3 weeks, by just mentioning and acknowledging Taiwan? Hololive CN was a mistake, even worse than Blizzard catering to China as lives are on the line as a result (Blizzard only had money on the line). |
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| It's funny when Commie China gets triggered every time Real China gets mentioned. They are worse than SJW. |
| Well China is everybody's favorite sugardaddy so I'm not surprised but still disappointed that Cover bent down to China |
| 汝臣民ノ信仰心ニヨリ、生キ返リマシタ。明治天皇デアリマス。 |
| Honestly, i dont know whats gonna happen on the future of this company, it looks like its gonna fall down. If it does, im gonna miss them... |
| It took me 30 mins just to find a forum avatar lmao. |
Seems like it won't be just a small thing if it got featured on the taiwanese media |
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| In my optional, Cover is just playing the safest card they could to protect their talents as there is no way these commies would stop if there isn't any sort of 'punishment' were given. (Just look at the way how they flooded Coco's Twitter) It is also a way maintain their reputation in China as they have several talents (such as Suisei) which seems to have more popularity on Bilibili as well. |
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| So uh...is it a country or not? Edit: Can internet people just not talk about China? Is it that hard for them? |
FatephileSep 29, 2020 12:55 AM
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Calc_ said: In my optional, Cover is just playing the safest card they could to protect their talents as there is no way these commies would stop if there isn't any sort of 'punishment' were given. Sadly your right, There are also Hololive CN idols that are in danger as well, they couldn't just trash Hololive CN and heavily guard Coco and Haato. This is pretty much a lose - lose situation in Cover Corp's side. Either they pick the whole world or Mainland Taiwan, choosing on any of them would have a negative. |
| It took me 30 mins just to find a forum avatar lmao. |
| Taiwan is real China, fuck the CCP. |
| No joke I just learnt the 'One-China Policy' thing only after this drama. |
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| Cover has released follow up statements on the matter https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1311143423169101824 https://cover-corp.com/2020/09/30/093002/ |
| Apparently the suspension on Coco and Haato isn't enough for the commies to stop their actions. Tamaki who merely mentioned Coco's name on Bilibili got her livestream stopped ASAP. Words such as 'Taiwan', 'Hong Kong' and 'China' got banned in Gura's chatroom. Botan was found having fake chat messages rolling on her stream. They are even considering on not allowing their talents to remove the entire SC readings now, which imo, a very important feature in Hololive we are talking about. |
Calc_Sep 30, 2020 2:53 AM
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Calc_ said: Apparently the suspension on Coco and Haato isn't enough for the commies to stop their actions. Tamaki who merely mentioned Coco's name on Bilibili got her livestream stopped ASAP. Words such as 'Taiwan', 'Hong Kong' and 'China' got banned in Gura's chatroom. Botan was found having fake chat messages rolling on her stream. They are even considering on not allowing their talents to remove the entire SC readings now, which imo, a very important feature in Hololive we are talking about. What were Botan's fake messages about? |
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| This was quite the unfortunate outcome to quite an overblown "issue." In fact, the only problem I see here is China themselves, and the crap they pull is pretty ridiculous. Haato and Coco literally did nothing wrong. And now how am I supposed to get my daily dose of Asacoco and HAACHAMA CHAMA!? But seriously, I hope they'll be ok. |
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| Cover, maybe you should take a hint and get the hell off of Billibilli and stop dealing with China for good, I knew that anything they do sans getting out of China would do jack shit. Time to cut their losses before it's too late (and it's almost too late). |
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--- Edit: https://www.youtube.com/c/HoloLiveMoments/community I am unsure how should I react towards this issue as part of their international fan tho. Will they force Coco to graduate at this point? :/ |
Calc_Sep 30, 2020 7:08 PM
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| Wow I knew they were suspended but didn’t know it was for 3 weeks. That’s a lot. |
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| I thought it'd be the n-word reading the thread title, but no it's literally reading Youtube Analytics lmao. Even if one thinks this is the capital offence warranting suspension, they should pick their quarrel with Youtube for displaying it as a country, and not some Vtuber for reading it aloud. |
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| Latest update regarding this issue as of 1st Oct: Gawr Gura sang 'Judgement' and 'Baka Mitai' from the Yakuza series during her karaoke session today as a dedication to Coco. She even openly mentioned "Judgement for Coco!" Chats were flooded with tons of 'Coco and Haachama'. |
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| They are back. New asacoco later today. |
| didn't know akai was gone. thought it was coco only, that is all I heard. The stream has a lot of downvotes to lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHsCSYBBSFc |
Kayle_x_MorganaOct 18, 2020 11:18 AM
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| tawain exist just like tiananmen square happened. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| Looks like the antis lost this one from watching the chat. Also I'll get that Haachama ASMR session that was scheduled weeks ago tomorrow morning. |
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| The girls finally are back in action, after 3 weeks of suspension. Now I can continue to enjoy daily dose of asacoco as usual. https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1317941441075712000 https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1317846343138770950 |
Calc_Oct 18, 2020 7:45 PM
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