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Sep 4, 2:16 PM

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all these lies are really getting out of hand now..

damn, the preview - does this mean someone else will find out mizuhara is a rental?
 
 
Sep 4, 2:18 PM

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I mean Ruka practically forced him to date her, but Kazuya's half-assed manner will definitely end up hurting her. He should just tell her he can't be with her, trial period or not- because she's trying her best and she did have a point in this episode.

Like, there's no reason for this shoehorned love triangle other than unnecessary drama. If a third girl is added into the mix, it's gonna get even more frustrating and annoying.
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Sep 4, 2:20 PM

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Ruka is very persistent, and to a certain point, really pushy, but she's right about the whole Kazuya-Chizuru thing, it's wrong that they continued in such a relationship for so long, also, that's basically a result of Kazuya being incompetent and always telling lies that dig them deeper and deeper, can't he be honest and tell his family already?
By the way, only 3 episodes left, still no Sumi.
 
Sep 4, 2:34 PM

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Ruka need to just stop. She is right on what they need to do but wrong in how she is trying to get it done. To stop the facade and I guess introduce the "real girlfriend" they can easily do it. The solution is pretty simple.

1) Mizuhara gets less and less involved. Give this phase about a month. This makes it less weird for when they break up.

2) Tell their grandmas they broke up. Without step 1, this would be weird if a lovey dovey couple suddenly breaks up.

3) Give a couple months at least before introducing Ruka. or... not if Kazuya don' like her

Problem here is that Ruka and Kazuya are too dumb and keeps burning each other's bridges by lying. Instead of falling back on a more reasonable lie, they go for the most outrageous stuff.
The "problem" of upsetting grandma is a non-issue. Mizuhara and Kazuya made it a bigger problem than it needed to be. He was alone before and while disappointed, she was fine as is without Mizuhara. Yes breaking the bad news would hurt her, but only temporarily.
The longer the lie goes on the more fond grandma is of Mizuhara and the greater the pain when it falls through.

The ultimate problem here is that do Kazuya really want to 'break up with Mizuhara' and do Mizuhara want to hand him over to Ruka. but even then it could be solved.
They break up, and if the two truly like each other, they can get back together. Officially. It isn't unheard of for couples to break up and get back together anyways. No one would be suspicious nor upset that it happened. Maybe the grandparents are sad for a little while but hardly world ending. By their age, they experienced far sadder things in life.

Additionally Mizuhara doesn't have to be cut completely from grandma's life. They can still be 'friends' and visit. Grandma might even be more accepting since it wasn't those dramatic horrible break ups but a mutual agreement to end Mizuhara and Kazuya's relationship.

But Mizuhara and Kazuya lack any backbone and decisiveness. While Ruka and Kazuya have the IQ in the single digits.
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Sep 4, 2:34 PM

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Ruka borderline ruining the anime for me.
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Sep 4, 2:35 PM

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what i get in this episode
- Kazuya acts like a elementary school kids, not being honest when Chizuru goes straight to the point and asks whether he loves chizuru
hes actually made the situation even more complicated, like a fckin kid does he realize he's already in college and mature?
- Kazuya likes to jerk off but doesn't horny to Ruka and tries to run away from Ruka who is so hot and beautiful, is MC a fagot?
- Kazuya and Chizuru are still going out together for business, even though their grandmother doesn't know they are going out together
- ruka is very good and smart in approaching kazuya's grandmother, I became more respectful to ruka
- Kazuya's grandmother is very annoying
- Kazuya's grandmother makes Ruka hurt by praising Chizuru and Ruka realizes that Kazuya's grandmother only likes Chizuru and always Chizzuru rather than his own grandchild.
- Ruka didn't give up and got stronger

Ruka simply the best girl in this series
Even though with the presence of ruka it is very possible for Kazuya to be honest, and tells his grandmother that he has nothing with Chizuru. instead Kazuya became more more acted like an asshole, just like his grandmother and his family. an asshole family

Poor Ruka
I began to understand why many people hate this anime
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Sep 4, 3:08 PM
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Ruka is fucking stupid to put herself in this situation. Kazuya is a horrible, trashy person, and she wants to hang around him because she thinks he will treat her well and will eventually fall inlove with her, but he isn't even attempting to give her a honest, actual try. All he does is try to simp for Mizuhara and complicate everything all the time.

The idiocy in the character interactions alongside the repetitive "I am only doing this for your grandmother" or "we can't tell her now" is getting annoying. None of the characters feel real, everyone, including Kazuya, understands how much of a horrible person he really is, yet, for some dumb reason, Ruka actually wants him, Mizuhara is also interested in him, and the entire show is a cringefest.

Sigh... I wish we'd have some more suffering scenes for Kazuya so atleast seeing him suffer would be a bit enjoyable...
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Sep 4, 3:18 PM
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Kanojo Ocringemasu Episode 9 completed - watch time under 4 minutes.
is this like some fast food irl? u consume it even though u know its shit? feels like it so far, the most fast forwarded series in my life, but still trying to hook anything from the story, so far, the only thing iv hooked from the story is cringe and the terribly huge amount of lies... disgusting
 
Sep 4, 3:39 PM
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Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.


He is only pathetic for keep giving her a change when he likes other person.
If he doesn't like her he should not let her do those stuff. Ofc he allow it because we need a story but if this was real life he would be a scumbag. Most of the decent guys will refuse her *things*.
 
Sep 4, 3:40 PM
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both times ive seen this happen, manga and anime, it amazes me how far kazuya can claim he is “ doing the gf thing for his grandma “ and how he wants to end the lie, just to continue digging himself in a hole deeper and deeper. Its annoying how he always says that he will eventually end the lie and call it “complicated” to ruka, even though it really isnt.
 
 
Sep 4, 3:54 PM

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Daaamn, Sumi will really get two eps max?? Since she is nowhere in the PV for next week. :(

Regarding this episode, I already forgot Ruka tried to stir some serious shit at some point. xD
 
Sep 4, 3:57 PM
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Bruh the anime ain't even that bad lmao. This gets way too much unnecessary hate.
 
Sep 4, 3:58 PM

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As an anime only watcher, I am now solidly pro-Ruka. Yes, she is clingy and overstepping her boundaries from time to time, but her arguments are extremely solid. Maybe Chizuru likes Kazuya, maybe she doesn't, but as a rental girlfriend, Chizuru is absolutely stepping outside her boundaries. Both Kazuya and Chizuru are 100% at fault for the mess they are in right now.

Also, I'm not sure why Kazuya wouldn't take up Ruka as his girlfriend. By this point, Kazuya must have spent so much money on Chizuru just to keep up an image of having a fake girlfriend.

With all that being said, where is the 4th and last girl? Will she even appear this season?

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Sep 4, 4:23 PM

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Ruka best girl so far!

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Sep 4, 4:35 PM

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I don't get why people can't comprehend that Kazuya likes Chizuru, given that this is stated outright. This is the real reason why he insists on maintaining the facade. He's terrified that if the faced were to go away, Chizuru would go with it. Is this the best way to deal with his situation? Absolutely not, but considering that it is achieving the goal of preserving his relationship with Chizuru, you can't really call it irrational either. This is also why Kazuya refuses to have sex with Ruka, which in my opinion is one of his rare truly manly moments. Maybe Ruka will manage to get her foot in the door, but as for now, Kazuya is firmly on the H.M.S. Chizuru whether you like it or not.

I have to admit that it is quite ironic for Kazuya to accuse Ruka of being a pathological liar.
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Sep 4, 4:42 PM

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I'm starting to fall for Ruka. Not only she is persistent, but she is very serious about being Kazuya's girlfriend despite being very clingy.
 
Sep 4, 4:43 PM
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Rukka best girl.

I hate to see the protagonist refusing her. It's so stupid, everything he wanted is right there in front of him but he keeps getting attached to a silly passion he had for Mizuhara grrrrrr
 
Sep 4, 4:43 PM

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This anime is so ridiculous that I love this. People that can't seem to enjoy this are probably like Kazuya IRL.

Ruka's winning the best girl status so far indeed.
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Sep 4, 4:50 PM

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I am absolutely disappointed, I have lost all my faith in Ruka :(
 
 
Sep 4, 4:50 PM

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I'm jelly of kazuya's situation I can't lie, but yeah glad that bitch won't give up on him. she has to go to hell and back.

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Sep 4, 4:58 PM

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Bruh the anime ain't even that bad lmao. This gets way too much unnecessary hate.


Ikr? Like I don't think it's the best shit ever or anything, but people are acting like it's the worst show they've ever seen and that's just hyperbolic imo.

OT: Ruka is clingy as hell and I can see why people don't like her, but I think she's still best girl despite that. She's adorable and I love her.
 
Sep 4, 5:03 PM
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This episode was terrible like every other episode. The fact that the rental relationship between Kazuya and Chizuru still exists baffles me.
The life of their relationship relies heavily on convenient incidents and puzzling choices made by characters. For example, how gullible does grandma have to be in order to buy into the "she's a pathological bullshit"? The moment that Ruka joins in dinner with them should have rose Grandma's suspicion. Yet it didn't. The grandma lacks any common sense and rationality. Even if grandma trusts Kazuya, the lie is far too absurd and unbelievable. There's no reason for the grandma to believe Kazuya's words. What proof has Ruka shown to alert grandma? Nothing.
 
 
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This show is a complete dumpster fire, devoid of any merit or even entertainment value at all levels. The show is unbearable to watch even when you turn your brain off.
If you're looking for gratuitous pandering material, watch the relevant portions and avoid everything else. Cringe-inducing to the maximum.
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I can't believe some of these people are actually saying Kazuya is a bitch because he didn't take the chance to bang Ruka. I commend him for that because for all his desperation, he didnt just take the easy way to get laid.

Still though, Ruka totally blackmailed Kazuya to be his girlfriend so honestly, him not being the same as he is with Chizuru is no surprise. However, she does have a point about their whole thing.

I bet the whole thing would have also ended if Kazuya admitted right there and then that he had actually fallen for Chizuru because by the looks of it, Chizuru seems to be harboring some feelings herself. Hell, iits a win-win situation. She doesnt have feelings? Then, she has all the reason to break it off even more since Kazuya has actually fallen for her and not just for business. If she does have feelings then she can just tell him as well so they can go on to become an actual couple. If anything, Id like to see more of Kazuya as someone with an actual girlfriend. Just to see if he actually mans up.
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AniJan said:
This show is a complete dumpster fire, devoid of any merit or even entertainment value at all levels. The show is unbearable to watch even when you turn your brain off.
If you're looking for gratuitous pandering material, watch the relevant portions and avoid everything else. Cringe-inducing to the maximum.


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Sep 4, 6:14 PM

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ruka please i was begging you to just end this all
 
Sep 4, 6:22 PM
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Great stuff, loved Ruka's aggressive play, you never see that in anime. Though nothing can break the love between grandma and Chizuru, that bath was too intense and awakened a long dormant yuri in her that no other girl can break. Even Ruka couldn't resist Chizuru's boobs (what was with the random boob grab?). At this point we don't even need Kazuya just let his grandma have a harem before she dies. :D

Also I'm another one baffled by the hate this show gets, it's just silly romcom misunderstandings and fun. :)
 
Sep 4, 7:08 PM
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Ruka is very nosy I will not go with her face
 
Sep 4, 7:32 PM

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This whole Ruka fiasco could've been solved in a minute if Kazuya could just speak like a normal human being. I fucking hate when plot is driven by a character's inability to speak and fix misunderstandings, etc... it's just awfully exasperating.
 
 
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Why do people suffer on his sex fantasies? Being a virgin isn't a bad thing but this boy's a retard SMH...
 
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Kazuya is THE definition of a virgin. He wasted so many opportunities to end his lies until now, can't stand this anymore.
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Sep 4, 8:16 PM
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I think Ruka needs an Apple Watch.
 
Sep 4, 8:31 PM
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I very much dislike Ruka
 
Sep 4, 9:03 PM
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MC and Chizuru are both trash in the way they treat Ruka. Guess they are perfect for each other in that sense. Ruka was laying out all the facts out there but the other 2 just dodge the matter to keep the plot/story going lol. We still not getting new (last?) girl next week? So the last girl will only be around for 1 or 2 episodes huh...
 
 
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ruka is too annoying. grandma best girl
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After this episode, I'm starting to wonder
just how much (in total) has Kazuya spent on renting Mizuhara.

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This whole Ruka fiasco could've been solved in a minute if Kazuya could just speak like a normal human being. I fucking hate when plot is driven by a character's inability to speak and fix misunderstandings, etc... it's just awfully exasperating.


I agree with this^^ but yeah pretty much every romance/harem anime out there use misunderstandings to drive the plot but the use in this series is getting out of hand.

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In this series all the characters are annoying in their own way xD


And a bit stupid also*

Still can't believe that Kazuya's grandma believed that lie about Ruka being a pathological liar lol.

Only 3 more episodes to go and Sumi is still not here. I hope her character introduction won't be too rushed or forced.
 
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I have to say I am impressed with how the show keeps portraying Kazuya as more and more of a fucking loser each passing episode.
 
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Haha, nice and refreshing eps...the keyword is lie, yeah it's bad in every condition...but yeah you can't help to do it, right? When you're lying, what can I say is just you're comforting yourself and people around you with sweet lie, maybe lying is addictive?...I didn't expect Ruka to tell grandma about that but yeah sooner or later she will know about it, it's not good to just stall and stall and stall hahaha...There are 2 characters this season that I really support, really, those are Yuigahama Yui and Sarashina Ruka hahaha accidentally same voice actress, Nao Toyama hahaha...really they don't deserve to become like this...really depressing to see them like this...
 
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I mean, Ruka is completly right. Chizuru is a rental kanojo, in fact she isn't following the rules that she has.

Kazuya: I need to get a girlfriend then we'll tell our family that we aren't going out anymore.
Chizuru: Sure, I'll help you to get a girlfriend.

Ruka: Can I be your girlfriend, Kazuya?
Kazuya: No

That's literally the whole plot right there.
I'm the first one that says that both, Kazuya and Chizuru look cute and lovable, but both of them, in personality are fuckin trash.
Specially Kazuya.
 
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Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.
Yeah, that's one of the lamest things I ever saw in anime. He should've scored with Ruka regardless of his feelings to Chizuru.
When a girl offers herself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else. You smash, and move along.
 
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Despite the fact that Ruka is being too pushy, I couldn't really hate her until she pulled that Love Hotel act. If the roles were reversed, it would have been seen as very dangerous.. The fact that scene was supposed to be seen as her just being "a cutesy aggressive clingy girl" just really turns me off. Although Kazuya is all around a disgusting guy himself, that was just too much.
 
 
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Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.


Wow you're so alpha bro, taking advantage of the feelings of a virgin girl and fucking her despite not having any feelings for her neither the intention of correspond her love, what a real man you are ;)
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Wow Ruka is way more aggressive than I thought. A love hotel? I think she's skipping some important steps there xD And another pathetic display of Kazuya as usual.
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Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.


Probably the most stupid post I've seen on the forum.
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Ruka deserves more than sticking with Kazuya :( It was just like how can they manage to continue the facade of rental act between Kazuya and Chizuru. Can't wait for Sumi's appearance though.
 
 
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Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.
Yeah, that's one of the lamest things I ever saw in anime. He should've scored with Ruka regardless of his feelings to Chizuru.
When a girl offers herself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else. You smash, and move along.
sorry but I'll have to strongly disagree. Ruka was dead serious and she truly believes she's in love with him and if he had had sex with her that would hurt her even more in the long run okay its not all about smashing a hot girl, if he doesn't like her then he shouldn't be doing that because that would be super unfair to her. He stopped thinking with his dick for once and actually listened to his head I honestly really respected him for that.
 
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Really starting to dislike Kazuya more and more. Too many lies, Dudes digging himself a deeper hole and does not even notice it. Just going to hurt more feelings. Dumb MC
 
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Alex796 said:
Yeah, that's one of the lamest things I ever saw in anime. He should've scored with Ruka regardless of his feelings to Chizuru.
When a girl offers herself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else. You smash, and move along.
sorry but I'll have to strongly disagree. Ruka was dead serious and she truly believes she's in love with him and if he had had sex with her that would hurt her even more in the long run okay its not all about smashing a hot girl, if he doesn't like her then he shouldn't be doing that because that would be super unfair to her. He stopped thinking with his dick for once and actually listened to his head I honestly really respected him for that.


True. It seems there are several people here who are thinking with their dicks so at least +1 respect for Kazuya.

Although, it is true that Kazuya is still shit for piling up the lies and that lie should be really painful on emotional level for Ruka when supposedly she is the legit girlfriend and she truly loves him.


 
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Mimi_123 said:
Alex796 said:
Yeah, that's one of the lamest things I ever saw in anime. He should've scored with Ruka regardless of his feelings to Chizuru.
When a girl offers herself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else. You smash, and move along.
sorry but I'll have to strongly disagree. Ruka was dead serious and she truly believes she's in love with him and if he had had sex with her that would hurt her even more in the long run okay its not all about smashing a hot girl, if he doesn't like her then he shouldn't be doing that because that would be super unfair to her. He stopped thinking with his dick for once and actually listened to his head I honestly really respected him for that.

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Mimi_123 said:
sorry but I'll have to strongly disagree. Ruka was dead serious and she truly believes she's in love with him and if he had had sex with her that would hurt her even more in the long run okay its not all about smashing a hot girl, if he doesn't like her then he shouldn't be doing that because that would be super unfair to her. He stopped thinking with his dick for once and actually listened to his head I honestly really respected him for that.


True. It seems there are several people here who are thinking with their dicks so at least +1 respect for Kazuya.

Although, it is true that Kazuya is still shit for piling up the lies and that lie should be really painful on emotional level for Ruka when supposedly she is the legit girlfriend and she truly loves him.

No, you're both wrong on it.

Not that I'm trying to portray myself as an alpha-Chad or whatever, but I have some first-hand life experience with this. When I was younger, I too tried to be all "noble & respectable" about it to the point I turned away on opportunities. But in retrospect, there is nothing to be gained in these situations by being the so-called "mature and not perverted" chump. She's going to get hurt no matter what and a real life Kazuya would just look back at it and facepalm at the missed opportunity.

As I already said, when you can smash - you smash. No ifs and buts. No matter her/your feelings (for someone else). Unless of course you're committed to someone else, which Kazuya clearly isn't.
 
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Alvaritoterreos said:
I mean, Ruka is completly right. Chizuru is a rental kanojo, in fact she isn't following the rules that she has.

Kazuya: I need to get a girlfriend then we'll tell our family that we aren't going out anymore.
Chizuru: Sure, I'll help you to get a girlfriend.

Ruka: Can I be your girlfriend, Kazuya?
Kazuya: No

That's literally the whole plot right there.
I'm the first one that says that both, Kazuya and Chizuru look cute and lovable, but both of them, in personality are fuckin trash.
Specially Kazuya.


right right, That's why I really hate this show, a Kazuya who is hard to get a beautiful girl. but when there is ruka who beautiful and hot Kazuya doesn't even want . and acting like a child.

And stupidly, Kazuya, who likes to jerk every day,suddenly can control his lust and gentle to ruka, who is ready to be fcked and kazuya runs away leaving ruka like shit
at least he can told to ruka that he dont want to fck her and he only want to fck with his ex mami chan.
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