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Sep 7, 11:47 PM

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Naabii- said:
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Probably the most stupid post I've seen on the forum.
right back at you.

Shit you got me there not gonna lie

Just saying buddy, not wanting to f*ck every girl in the world that is offering her *things* to you doesn't make someone pathetic. Ofc if you're joking then I have no qualms. Hell even if you're serious I have no qualms lol I'm a chill dude hope you accept the friend request I will send right after finishing this post because I've heard you eat male ass
Fuck reading signatures, you could be watching One Piece instead.

Give One Piece a shot, no listen. I started One Piece, I watched the first few episodes, I thought it was good. After watching episode 24, I was convinced it was a great show. After finishing episode 37, I was convinced it was a masterpiece and then it continued to deliver and deliver, and it still stands up now. Just try it once, if you can watch till ep 37 and still think that it's just an alright show at best, then drop it by all means. (write an L on your forehead while you're at it)

Thanks for reading, if you did. Also fuck your favourite anime if it's not One Piece.
 
Sep 7, 11:51 PM
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Is anyone else getting annoyed by Ruka's persistent. It seems like she just trying to force herself into a situation that she knows is complicated, but just hope it works out. Every time she says/ does something, she digs into the hole that Mizuhara and Kazuya are already in. Then they have to cover for her by telling more lies, making the hole even deeper.
 
 
Sep 8, 4:54 AM

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My jaw actually dropped when the MC literally character assassinated that girl to his whole family to cover up his own pathological lying. What a guy
 
Sep 8, 6:21 AM
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It's getting more complicated yet again. I'm really starting to dislike this anime. Ruka is being serious (sometimes a little too much) about their relationship. kazuya should know this and really tell his grandma,instead of telling her that Ruka is a liar. Grandma is making it even more difficult for them to tell the truth and she is absolutly obsessed with Chizuru. Does she even consider that an actual break up could happen...? If she likes Chizuru so much she should marry or adopt her or something. I'm really hoping these lies will stop soon enough, if not I might drop this anime and give it a bad rating.
The OP is still amazing tho.
 
Sep 8, 4:07 PM

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Ruka is 189 dumb high IQ megamind in this show rn hahaha
 
 
Sep 8, 9:41 PM

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I want to like Ruka, but she is literally doing herself literally no favors by being this way. Honestly, it is so frustrating having to see her be so possessive as well as pushy about an MC who is a total loser. I hope that her character improves soon, because I really do want to like her character. Especially because I thought her backstory was fairly interesting to say the least. Too bad she has a smooth brain right now.
Have a great day!

 
Sep 9, 12:17 AM

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Ruka is such a good girl, even after douchebag mc told grandma she's a pathological liar, she couldn't tell her his grandson is dating a rental girlfriend.
 
Sep 9, 2:09 AM
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Great,the one that's not lying is known as a liar, fuck this sh*t im done
 
Sep 9, 10:17 AM
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Cleanse my brain with bleach. This shit was painful to watch.
 
Sep 9, 10:29 AM
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I couldn't stop laughing when they were all making excuses of ruka being a friend and rukela just came out and said i am his girlfriend😂😂.

I think people need to chill out on this show. Why are they taking it so seriously. All the show need to do is deliver on the story and comedy. And they are doing it so well. The tension created between both the protaganist are palpable. And thr comedy is too op.
 
Sep 9, 11:17 AM
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Ruka sooooo ANNOYING.
Just leave them alone.
 
Sep 9, 12:41 PM

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People really out here stanning Chizuru like Ruka don’t exist lol. https://imgur.com/a/lvwbkBp

I know this show isn’t supposed to be taken seriously or anything but man I can’t help but being frustrated at how stupid this all is in terms of this situation with the grandmother. Toxic all around.



Bruh, she is so clingy, how can you still stand...


I
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE
RUKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

WHY DO PEOPLE LOVE HER!? SHE IS SO ANNOYING?

- Kazuya likes to jerk off but doesn't horny to Ruka and tries to run away from Ruka who is so hot and beautiful, is MC a fagot?


It's pretty obvious he can't stand being with her; it doesn't matter if she is pretty; if you hate someone, they won't be able to turn you on.

And who can blame him? She is selfish as fuk, doesn't care about anyone ELSE'S feelings but her own, and blackmails people she claims to "love" only to get what SHE wants.

What a bitch?

She has a shit personality. I wouldn't even TALK to someone who acts like this!
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Sep 9, 9:17 PM

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Sudden storms are headed our MC's way indeed.

But once again, the power of cute gran gran triumphs
 
Sep 10, 1:21 AM
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Alex796 said:
Naabii- said:
How beta could you be to refuse a 10/10 girl offering her *things*.
The series would just end here, omg the MC is pathetic af.
Yeah, that's one of the lamest things I ever saw in anime. He should've scored with Ruka regardless of his feelings to Chizuru.
When a girl offers herself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else. You smash, and move along.


The same applies to girls. When a boy offers himself to you and you're not committed to anyone else, you never refuse! Even if you have it for someone else.
So if Chizuru will have sex with other guy, even if she has it for Kazuya, by your logic you will be ok if she moves along with Kazuya later.
As a girl It's nice to see such progressive mentality from guys here. I'm learning a lot.
 
 
Sep 10, 10:26 AM

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oof. The cringe levels of this show were already high, but they skyrocketed in this episode. I wanna drop it, but this close to the end i'll keep watching cause i have nothing better to do :/
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably.

 
Sep 10, 9:09 PM

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this is an entertaining mess!
i really thought Ruka-chan would resort on being dirty like telling the truth about Chizuru being a rent-a-gal to Kazuya's granma...
5/5.


 
Sep 12, 4:11 AM

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Man, this show is getting better and better. Ruka is slowly becoming more likable than Chizuru.

Kazuya somehow becomes a bigger idiot every episode.
 
Sep 12, 5:21 AM

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Pathological Liar. Lmao what a pathetic excuse
 
 
Sep 13, 6:56 PM

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Yes, granny, that is the problem. You love Chizuru a little too much, especially based on the bath scene. Grandma's such an awful character.
 
Sep 14, 10:52 PM
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It is funny how people think of Kazuya as a real gentleman for not taking advantage of Ruka, but trying his best with Chizuru by stalking her and masturbating with her image and his ex. Yeah a total gentleman that keeps getting the attention of all girls in more unrealistic situations with unrealistic results.

Totally realistic 10/10 best anime and MC of all time an example for the posteriority. And totally not another generic MC from a generic harem. XD


Exactly, the problem isn't either the extreme of "You must always smash, given the opportunity, no matter the circumstances, or you are a beta." or the other extreme of "You can only have sex with someone if you are both %150 sure that you are each other's ONE for all time!"

The problem in this harem anime, like so many others, is that it's all false chivalry that wouldn't happen quite this way in RL. Sure, it's arguably wrong to jump in and out of sexual relationships with sincere people just for fun and convenience (something that some guys AND gals do sometimes), but in the age of Tinder and the third date often being the Sex Date, it's not realistic to expect people to be celibate until they find someone they are %1000 sure about and are engaged for life to either.

Dating is part of getting to know each other, along with growing intimacy. It's not this false choice between sordid sex fiending, and lifelong commitment based on having been childhood friends turned lovers or whatever that anime presents in its stories.

Notice how harem MCs get mocked for being virgins, yet the requirements for losing their virginity with only that one perfect someone are set so impossibly and improbably high that it's hard to imagine them ever hooking up? It's at least a bit contradictory, and I think the conflict lies in the space between modern real dating and traditional Japanese storytelling values.

Only a few generations ago, if that, the average rural Japanese person was expected to "cutely" end up marrying someone by arrangement between families, and it could indeed often be with someone they knew as a kid. Virginity and purity, meanwhile, was actually highly prized as part of one's value, especially for females, and so we see the residue of that kind of story in anime today, where all the damn characters are virgins no matter what, even in a college setting.

I have read more down to earth manga from Japan that are a bit more realistic in their depiction of a modern Japanese college setting, that don't even bother with the virginity requirement and treat sex relatively casually in the story. It's only in Cartoon Land where you see this endless weird runaround of the eternal virgin harem MC, who always finds a reason not to confess, hook up, or ever, ever, have sex.

By this time in the industry though, it's not even really about being a gentleman, or a pure lady anymore, it's about satisfying those old tropes, and also keeping the endless soap opera going while we all play guess who so and so will end up with, and selling a few more manga issues.
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Sep 14, 11:37 PM
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Yes, granny, that is the problem. You love Chizuru a little too much, especially based on the bath scene. Grandma's such an awful character.

I do kind of dislike granny. Being SO loud and disappointed about her grandson not being a Don Juan...at only age 19 or so no less, just cause she wants grand kids was a bit of a turnoff from the start. Kazuya may be trash, for now, but everyone develops at their own pace. Expecting him to be engaged and everything before age 21 was a bit silly anyways. She seems more judgmental than patient and understanding about a relative's love life.

Hell, pressure crap like that may have made Kazuya's development worse. Someone with a healthier perspective would have brushed off someone like Mami and moved on to begin with, avoiding this whole mess. Instead, he thinks his failure of everyone plus granny is such a huge big deal that he got fixated. I notice his father just assumed the absolute worst of him a bit readily as well. Mmmm...
 
Sep 15, 12:19 AM
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The Granma is only there because the author didn't find other way to force the relation between Chizuru and Kazuya.

In an awful intent to feel pitty on the MC that tries to have a relationship to make his granma happy.

PD: It's interesting how the more analysis this anime recieves the more flaws on the author storyline pops up.
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Sep 15, 9:23 AM

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I can't remember the last time I literally LOL'd watching an anime, but when Ruka kept repeating she was his girlfriend I laughed my ass off. As much of a complete piece of trash the MC is, this setting leads to some entertaining scenarios.
what's up nakama
 
 
Sep 16, 4:53 AM
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Not sure what the writers are trying to achieve here.

Main character is still an asshole, the situation with grandma is just a poor excuse to keep the gag going and Chizuru keeps getting herself back into the situation with ridiculously dumb decisions. Rule is too good for that moron, but far too pushy, and had a chance to end it and, all of a sudden, isnt pushy. The way he trashed her to his gran was just unforgivable really.
 
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ruka confirmed biggest chad in the series.
 
Sep 18, 9:24 PM

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Mormegil said:
Yes, granny, that is the problem. You love Chizuru a little too much, especially based on the bath scene. Grandma's such an awful character.


So MC's grandma is bisexual? Or was it a joke in the context of her obsession with Chizuru because of her ideality ?
 
Sep 19, 1:35 PM

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Well at least Ruka knows that Kazuya's grandmother really treats Chizuru like one of the family. It was quite an entertaining episode with the excuses being made hahaha.
Defying me till the very end, huh? Some things are beautiful exactly because they are unobtainable.
 
 
Sep 19, 8:16 PM

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Metalsludge said:
Mormegil said:
Yes, granny, that is the problem. You love Chizuru a little too much, especially based on the bath scene. Grandma's such an awful character.

I do kind of dislike granny. Being SO loud and disappointed about her grandson not being a Don Juan...at only age 19 or so no less, just cause she wants grand kids was a bit of a turnoff from the start. Kazuya may be trash, for now, but everyone develops at their own pace. Expecting him to be engaged and everything before age 21 was a bit silly anyways. She seems more judgmental than patient and understanding about a relative's love life.

Hell, pressure crap like that may have made Kazuya's development worse. Someone with a healthier perspective would have brushed off someone like Mami and moved on to begin with, avoiding this whole mess. Instead, he thinks his failure of everyone plus granny is such a huge big deal that he got fixated. I notice his father just assumed the absolute worst of him a bit readily as well. Mmmm...


Pretty much. I'm not a big fan of Kazuya, but granny is completely overbearing.

@RobertBobert

No idea. Probably just your typical anime bathing scene with girls, except in this case one is MUCH older. She's definitely obsessed with her though.
 
Sep 19, 11:28 PM

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@Mormegil Well, I'm not sure about the original line or the English translation, but in Russian she said "I fell in love with a young girl."
 
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Glad that Kazuya explained everything to Ruka, but ofc, it didn't come without Kazuya thinking up of something lewd like the horny guy he is.

OK, You don't have to fucking tell your grandmother yet another big fucking lie you fucking dickhead. Can you not just talk with a straight face and just come clean, the more time passes, the more disappointed his family would be to find out that he has either broken up with Chizuru or have just said that she is not his real gf after all.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Tell her Ruka! Tell Chizuru!
Chizuru has always seemed to look down on Ruka as the immature young girl, but when it comes to argument, especially regarding their titles and relationship with Kazuya, Ruka wins. She has a really strong argument against Chizuru and she brought her down by exposing the fact that Chizuru actually does love Kazuya after all.

 
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I think the worst part about all this Ruka shit (besides the creepiness of Kazuya "dating" a high school student) is how unnecessary it is. Like is his own stupidity and Mami's machinations not enough drama already. And we're gonna throw in another girl in the 11th hour of the season too.

Ruka herself isn't terrible (way too clingy but I guess that's not unnatural for teenage girls with their first "love") but her story has been conveyed very poorly so far.
 
Oct 21, 4:50 PM

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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
I think the worst part about all this Ruka shit (besides the creepiness of Kazuya "dating" a high school student) is how unnecessary it is. Like is his own stupidity and Mami's machinations not enough drama already. And we're gonna throw in another girl in the 11th hour of the season too.

Ruka herself isn't terrible (way too clingy but I guess that's not unnatural for teenage girls with their first "love") but her story has been conveyed very poorly so far.

What creepines are you talking about dude, i don't know how old Ruka is but she is still in high school, not kindergarden.

That aside, she does have a point, she has the reasoning highground; too bad Grandma is all in into Chizuru, and it was enough to stop her. I kinda wouldn't have blamed her if she would have spilled the beans but i guess it would have been rude. I really like her enthusiasm, and in normal circumstances she would have won the love triangle straight away.

About the grandma being a "bad character" per se i can't agree, she is not putting much pressure directly, she just wants to see his grandson happily settled with a nice girl, it was just Kazuya that had to fuck it all up at the beginning. I' m personally used to being openly berated by my father and i can't bring myself to compare them, they almost feel like they are played for laughs. Her being basically obsessed with Chizuru, obviosly that's not a good thing, but to me it all falls in the realm of possibility, she is not at fault, her desire to see her grandson with a nice girl is not a big time wish, and for that i can't bring myself to blame her.
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flo7 said:
Red_Ranger_Wien said:
I think the worst part about all this Ruka shit (besides the creepiness of Kazuya "dating" a high school student) is how unnecessary it is. Like is his own stupidity and Mami's machinations not enough drama already. And we're gonna throw in another girl in the 11th hour of the season too.

Ruka herself isn't terrible (way too clingy but I guess that's not unnatural for teenage girls with their first "love") but her story has been conveyed very poorly so far.

What creepines are you talking about dude, i don't know how old Ruka is but she is still in high school, not kindergarden.


A guy in his early to mid 20s entering into a relationship with someone who is 16/17 years old at most is creepy even if it might technically be legal
 
 
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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
flo7 said:

What creepines are you talking about dude, i don't know how old Ruka is but she is still in high school, not kindergarden.


A guy in his early to mid 20s entering into a relationship with someone who is 16/17 years old at most is creepy even if it might technically be legal

Not. (and it is clearly stated that he is 20 y.o.)

Anyway, i would also like to add that i really liked Ruka so far, she really felt like a "strong contender", sadly for her i guess KazuyaxChizuru is a thing set in stone. Not that i mind, i think she is the best girl, it's the drama that i fundamentally dislike.
 
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Interesting episode. Ruka is being too bold, as usual, but she does have some good points. Like making Kazuya realize he can't keep up these lies till they're both old and grey, as rental girlfriend Chizuru can't give him a future. And when Ruka is talking with Chizuru in the bathroom, she rightfully calls her out for the lies and making the situation more complicated by adding more and more lies.

If Chizuru really wants to end this complicated situation, why from the first moment grandma sees her, she puts on the "perfect future daughter in law" act? Instead she could have been a little more reserved, then grandma would have asked what's wrong, and Chizuru could have put up a story about having second thoughts about dating Kazuya. Grandma would understand, because she knows he's not great with the ladies, and accepted them breaking up. Instead her act makes grandma like Chizuru even more, also after the lie about Ruka being a pathological liar, and grandma starting to think Chizuru is such an angel for letting Ruka be her friend while having to put up with the 'lies'. Chizuru clearly says one thing, but does another.

Ruka checking Kazuya's phone was wrong, but she didn't have much of a choice, since Chizuru and Kazuya keep doing things behind her back all the time. They first had that meeting in the restaurant, then after the "talk" in the love hotel, Kazuya plans another day with Chizuru, for New Year. Even for a trial relationship, that's cheating.

It's probably a good thing that Ruka didn't tell Kazuya's grandma the truth, but for a moment thinks over her actions, and decides to take it more slowly. Although knowing her, and how most characters in this story forget their good intentions very soon after thinking about these, she's bound to make new mistakes in the near future. But at least she's being honest about her feelings and intentions, unlike most other main characters.
 
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