| This is something that has been going on forever in the anime industry. So really it’s nothing new. |
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| This has been the situation for years. A lot of manga got 1-6 episode ova adaptations and nothing else in the late 80s and 90s. |
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| I thought that everyone here were already aware of that fact. |
yajlan said: NamikazeHime said: I thought that everyone here were already aware of that fact. well man I’m not that deeply in anime industry i just watched a few animes lately that disappointed me cause there is no sequel for them I'm gonna sound like a bummer but, here's a little advice - read the manga. |
| It has been like that for a long time, I can name 20 anime from the top of my head that was created for the sole purpose of advertisement of the original source. |
 I said keep your hands on the table |
| I read a lot of manga before I got into anime but after I started watching anime a lot more than reading manga my number one reason for reading manga and LNs became because the anime advertised it and didnt finish it and I liked it enough to want to see what happens. Only downside is that anime frequently doesnt do the manga or LN justice at all so you pretty much need to start from the beginning of the written work to see what you missed etc. A lot of animes sole purpose is to promote the written work though so you will see a ton of anime that never catches up to the written work. Sad but thats just how it is. |
| Yes it is called sustainable business that supports each other, it is impossible to produce original hit anime again and again regularly so manga and novels are the main hit creators... |
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yajlan said: never found that passion in reading manga or felt the same hype that anime gives unfortunately. From your anime list, I see you like long runing shounens (I also like them a lot), and I have to admit that in most cases source material made me more hype than than the adaptation itself (in case of Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, One Piece, Slam Dunk, Black Clover, JoJo, GTO, etc.) |
| I mean you basically just described the industry as it has been for ages. |
yajlan said: NamikazeHime said: Sure I only read one piece manga for the more hype i think but for me I still prefer the anime you can hear see and move with osts and many different things From your anime list, I see you like long runing shounens (I also like them a lot), and I have to admit that in most cases source material made me more hype than than the adaptation itself (in case of Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, One Piece, Slam Dunk, Black Clover, JoJo, GTO, etc.) Sure, ost can pump up your experience, but anime tends to unnecessary stretch out many scenes and spoil all the excitement in them that way. Also, all of these have wayyyy better art style in the manga then in the anime. Not to mention censorship in the anime. |
| That is why the best anime are original works. |
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Jim_Heart said: That is why the best anime are original works. They are also made for profit. One way or another, industry makes money, we spend our money. |
The_Neall said: Arin-san said: It has been like that for a long time, I can name 20 anime from the top of my head that was created for the sole purpose of advertisement of the original source. Can you name them??? Cause I think most of them are either unpopular or underrated. Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry, OreShura, Problem children are coming from another world, aren't they?, NouCome, Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku, Hai to Gensou no Grimgar, Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni., Trinity Seven, Seireitsukai no Blade Dance, Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut, Hundred, Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica, Hataraku Maou-sama, Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, No Game No Life (This isn't an advertisement but it will never get a season 2 for copyright reasons and it did boost the light novel sales), and literally hundreds and hundreds more. When they made these anime they never intended to do a proper adaption because when I've read the source for these I found out how many shit they just skipped over, most of these are light novels. Some of them were successful enough to boost the original source sales. |
I said keep your hands on the table |
NamikazeHime said: yajlan said: well man I’m not that deeply in anime industry i just watched a few animes lately that disappointed me cause there is no sequel for them I'm gonna sound like a bummer but, here's a little advice - read the manga. I find the fluid motion and movement as well as sound in voice acting, music, and overall background and ambient noise and sound design (color also, but that's less concrete as color palettes can vary radically and I would just as eagerly watch a black and white anime like the upcoming Uzumaki anime is projected to be) indispensable and without equal to the experience. The advice is always "read the manga" but I don't really see how people can compare the two. If there wasn't an enormous difference between the two mediums and how people relate to and experience them and the level of accessibility, then there would be zero point to producing anime in the first place. Anime gives a lot more life to people like myself who generally don't care for reading fiction. I read enough non-fictional material all day. |
NamikazeHime said: I'm gonna sound like a bummer but, here's a little advice - read the manga. Source material are often unavailable in English. |
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WatchTillTandava said: I find the fluid motion and movement as well as sound in voice acting, music, and overall background and ambient noise and sound design (color also, but that's less concrete as color palettes can vary radically and I would just as eagerly watch a black and white anime like the upcoming Uzumaki anime is projected to be) indispensable and without equal to the experience. The advice is always "read the manga" but I don't really see how people can compare the two. If there wasn't an enormous difference between the two mediums and how people relate to and experience them and the level of accessibility, then there would be zero point to producing anime in the first place. Anime gives a lot more life to people like myself who generally don't care for reading fiction. I read enough non-fictional material all day. I had the same way of thinking in the first couple of months after my anime journey started. However, after watching and reading a decent amount of anime and manga I came to realization that great ost, animation or character design can never compensate for a story or characters. Most of my 10s and 9s have pretty avarage artstyle and music was hit or miss. That didn't change the fact that I enjoyed them a lot. I know that many people prefer style over substance and I can completely understand that. We all look for a different things in anime and that's the beauty of it. Btw, I never said that there is no point in making anime. OP said that he wants more content from anime he liked but he doesn't think they'll get the sequal. Reading the manga is probably the best option here. Also, you should've probably quote the rest of my conversation with OP, because I talked about some things regarding my 'advice'. NamikazeHime said: Sure, ost can pump up your experience, but anime tends to unnecessary stretch out many scenes and spoil all the excitement that way. Also, all of these have wayyyy better art style in the manga then in the anime. Not to mention censorship in the anime. |
Lucifrost said: NamikazeHime said: I'm gonna sound like a bummer but, here's a little advice - read the manga. Source material are often unavailable in English. Reading manga/novels online is a thing for a long time. Even unpopular titles can easily be found. I read a bunch of romance/shounen ai that have less than 1000 members on MAL and I never searched for any of them for more than a minute. |
| Before the 2010s a lot of anime would just have one season all ending with the usual "fck you go read the manga". Shows like shield hero or ascendance of a bookworm could've never hoped to get sequels so I would say it's much better now. |
| It's very annoying. Like come on, I'm a dumb American. I can only watch anime. I can't be bothered to read for pleasure. |
| I fear not the man who has watched 10,000 animes once, but I fear the man who has watched one anime 10,000 times. |
| These kinds of projects are the bane of my existence, and for whoever decided not to fully adapt them...a boot to the head. NamikazeHime said: Reading manga/novels online is a thing for a long time. Even unpopular titles can easily be found. I read a bunch of romance/shounen ai that have less than 1000 members on MAL and I never searched for any of them for more than a minute. Unfortunately this just does not work for some things. For instance there's at least 6 novels I'm trying to read that have had their English translations (official or unofficial) inexplicably abandoned. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
Kruszer said: NamikazeHime said: Reading manga/novels online is a thing for a long time. Even unpopular titles can easily be found. I read a bunch of romance/shounen ai that have less than 1000 members on MAL and I never searched for any of them for more than a minute. Unfortunately this just does not work for some things. For instance there's at least 6 novels I'm reading that have had their English translations (official or unofficial) inexplicably abandoned. Novels are becoming thing in the west just now, so I'm not really surprised by that. Can you tell what site do you use to read them and maybe mention some of the titles? |
NamikazeHime said: Kruszer said: Unfortunately this just does not work for some things. For instance there's at least 6 novels I'm reading that have had their English translations (official or unofficial) inexplicably abandoned. Novels are becoming thing in the west just now, so I'm not really surprised by that. Can you tell what site do you use to read them and maybe mention some of the titles? Fan Translations (Found these on the now defunct BakaTsuki Reader ap): Aesthetica of Rogue Hero (Unofficial translation dropped. They translated 1-5, skipped 6, and released random chapters for a few volumes after that and stopped) Alderamin on the Sky (Unofficial translation that translated the first 3 novels and stopped.) Hyouka or the Kouten-bu Series (unofficial translation. Not sure about whether this is still going or not but it stopped at Novel 6) Lord Marksman and Vanadis (Unofficial translation stops midway through novel 14) Tokyo Ravens (unofficial translation stops at novel 14) Official Licenses: Boogiepop Novel Series (Released irregularly by the official company Seven Seas. They released 1-6 but there are more) Moribito (Licensed and the first 2 novels were released then abandoned) Scrapped Princess (Tokyopop released the first 3 novels and abandoned the series) Twelve Kingdoms (I forgot how many novels were released but it wasn't all of them.) |
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Kruszer said: NamikazeHime said: Novels are becoming thing in the west just now, so I'm not really surprised by that. Can you tell what site do you use to read them and maybe mention some of the titles? Fan Translations (Found these on the now defunct BakaTsuki Reader ap): Aesthetica of Rogue Hero (Unofficial translation dropped. They translated 1-5, skipped 6, and released random chapters for a few volumes after that and stopped) Alderamin on the Sky (Unofficial translation that translated the first 3 novels and stopped.) Hyouka or the Kouten-bu Series (unofficial translation. Not sure about whether this is still going or not but it stopped at Novel 6) Lord Marksman and Vanadis (Unofficial translation stops midway through novel 14) Tokyo Ravens (unofficial translation stops at novel 14) Official Licenses: Boogiepop Novel Series (Released irregularly by the official company Seven Seas. They released 1-6 but there are more) Moribito (Licensed and the first 2 novels were released then abandoned) Scrapped Princess (Tokyopop released the first 3 novels and abandoned the series) Twelve Kingdoms (I forgot how many novels were released but it wasn't all of them.) I can understand fan translators till some extand. If series itself is not read by many people, they don't really have any kind of motivation to continue with it. But I'm surprised to see something like that happening to an official licenses. |
One of very few anime I considered a masterpiece (I rated 10/10), and I still don't know how the story continue. I guess learning japanese language is only solution for it. |
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yajlan said: NamikazeHime said: I thought that everyone here were already aware of that fact. well man I’m not that deeply in anime industry i just watched a few animes lately that disappointed me cause there is no sequel for them Yeah like there is no sequel for maid sama although its popular |
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yajlan said: Recently, there are many animes produced for the purpose of increasing the popularity of the novel or manga, and in most cases it continues for one season only and is not completed, leaving the followers waiting for the sequel, but this is not done. So are we now in a world governed by trade and money making, even in anime? What are your opinions? One your last statement has been true about the world forever and globalization has been an increasing force since the 16th century whose only limiting factor has been technology. You literally are engaging in a media that is product of global trade/globalization. When in the history of anime was the world not governed by international trade or money making or when was anime not governed by these things? Anime has always been driven by that one reason the OVA market crashed was the recession in the Japanese economy in the 90's. Secondly how is this recent? It's literally been the dominating trend for quite a while even before I got into anime/manga back in 09. Honestly sequels are more common now I feel than in the past. Hate them or love them production committees splitting cost of production has allowed for a variety of manga to make it to the anime side exposing them to new audiences even if it didn't end up in a sequel. I would rather have 1 season of something with a go read the manga ending than no adaption at all. |
BilboBaggins365Aug 4, 2020 2:34 AM
Jim_Heart said: One of very few anime I considered a masterpiece (I rated 10/10), and I still don't know how the story continue. I guess learning japanese language is only solution for it. Without spoiling anything the anime series adapts only the first novel Guardian of the Spirit, the anime is indeed a rare kind of masterpiece because a lot the things in it were original content but it was actually really good and fitting filler that that you wouldn't know is filler unless you've read the book and it also enhances the already good story. The second novel is Guardian of the Darkness which revolves around Balsa returning home to Kanbal to face her past and old enemies. |
KruszerAug 4, 2020 3:05 AM
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach" |
NamikazeHime said: I can understand fan translators till some extand. If series itself is not read by many people, they don't really have any kind of motivation to continue with it. But I'm surprised to see something like that happening to an official licenses. It's especially annoying because I find most of them to be pretty interesting reads. I really like Alderamin on the Sky, Lord Marksman and Vanadis, and Tokyo Ravens and would be happy for some official English publisher to take my damn money for them. |
KruszerAug 4, 2020 3:20 AM
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Jim_Heart said: One of very few anime I considered a masterpiece (I rated 10/10), and I still don't know how the story continue. I guess learning japanese language is only solution for it. There’s a subbed live-action Moribito. |
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