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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Heh, the cartoony style of some of the scenes this episode took me by surprise. Those weird glasses kinda reminds me of Kamina from Gurren Lagann. Quite an unique episode if you ask me. We got more look into the technology and world fiction of the show. I'm really curious to see how advanced technology is in this anime but with the robotics they've shown so far, there's lot more potential. Natsume's little rage moments were rather amusing. |
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| The whole avatar thing had me confused and I almost lost interest, but the episode wrapped it all together very well. Didn’t feel the AoT vibes as much as people warned (no where near as much as Kabaneri had). Definitely gonna continue to keep my eye on this one and maybe even watch it during its midnight releases. |
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| Yeah, kinda as i thought already from the ending of the last week's episode. I ain't signed up for this. Dropped ... will not even bother with the next week's episode for them to explain this shit. |
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| If anyone actually understands what just happened please fill me in lmao. I feel like I just watched a completely different show and I have no idea what's going on. |
| All right, another week and one more episode of Deca-Dence... A really crazy and wild episode by the way, but absolutely better than the previous one, with answers to our previous questions and of course, with a better explain of the background of some characters and of the universe in the series... Altought It doesn´t seem to be a AoT like people said, at least this second one keeps me interested. Waiting for next week... |
| Ok, I didn't expect that in the slightest. In some weird way, I actually think this makes the show 10x interesting. The world has a lot more mystery to it, the whole bug thing with Natsume is interesting and I want to see who's an alien controlling an avatar or whatnot because there may be more aliens passing off as humans like Kabu. |
It really do be like that though. |
| This was certainly different honestly, but I liked it. Being different can be good, and it did bring interest. Curious to see how our MC's training goes next week. |
NenharmaTheGreat said: I was really excited for this anime, but the avatar thing kind of killed it for me. I'm gonna keep watching but I don't think I'll enjoy it as much as I thought I would of after seeing the first episode. I feel the same way. I loved the world building in the first episode and this cheezy avatar shit background with cartoony animation just was a massive blow to my enjoyment of it. A shame that things take a turn in this direction. Why do creators always think that making a mysterious story with a big twist is better? Sometimes a straight story, well executed and with solid voice acting is just as good if not better. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| So, uh, this is the kind of series-reshaping twist that most shows take until around the penultimate chapters to get to, and this show just casually dropped it in episode TWO. Guys, I think I might love this show. |
| plot twist on second episode eh so its all just a video game like The Matrix with risk of real death and humans in this world are all just AI or NPC that develops bugs in some cases then |
| Well i thought this anime wanted to be pretty ambitious last episode, but man with this episode that ambition just multiplied by a milion. Will the plot twist make people turn some heads? 100%. Will some people love the twist? I guess, because i kinda did, im very interested where this will go |
| Dropping at the same time as Re:Zero is rough for this one. That was a pretty big shift with Deca-Dence essentially being a game. I was confused for like half the episode before putting the pieces together with the gears and tankers. This series has a lot of potential. I just hope the narrative stays on track and we get a cohesive story. Natsume is really cute. |
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| Wait what? So basically they managed to program that world, basically a full dive VR and that's how they have to solve the bugs? I find that kinda funny, I mean those guys made AGI and can't make an AI to handle bugs, seems legit. Also this kinda plot twist is what I totally didn't expect, I feel like it went down in my own rating/expectations but maybe it'll turn out to be amazing. |
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Farabeuf said: I agree and disagree, the fact that people called this an aot rip off does show that sometimes people need to do diferent things to gain more people to watch it even it makes other people stop watching it too, high risk high reward ya know. Is it always better? Obviusly not. cough franxx cough. But at least here they made it in episode 2 and not episode 18 or something, and it is clearly what they wanted the show to be. I personaly am a person who doesnt really care about premises but more about overall execution, which honestly this anime excells at. Do i critize you to not like this twist? Certainly not, do as you please, the creators also need to understand that this would turn some heads, again its gamble.NenharmaTheGreat said: I was really excited for this anime, but the avatar thing kind of killed it for me. I'm gonna keep watching but I don't think I'll enjoy it as much as I thought I would of after seeing the first episode. I feel the same way. I loved the world building in the first episode and this cheezy avatar shit background with cartoony animation just was a massive blow to my enjoyment of it. A shame that things take a turn in this direction. Why do creators always think that making a mysterious story with a big twist is better? Sometimes a straight story, well executed and with solid voice acting is just as good if not better. |
| Bruh, I didn't expect Kaburagi's flashback seems a lil bit cartoonish. It even advertised Deca-Dence like a RPG. Oh well, so the Kaburagi in human form was an avatar controlled by a non-human, if I'm correct. Paying the price due to that limit release. So, Dio here is like an admin owned by the company. Looks like a new dystopia has been introduced in this Deca-Dence. This worldbuilding is truly amazing. Cannot wait for the next episode. |
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| such a interesting and unqiue plot twist |
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| I'm really conflicted about this. On the one hand, I really, really, REALLY don't give a single fuck about the whole alien corporate nonsense. On the other hand, I really like Natsume and Kaburagi, and this twist made their relationship more interesting. So, I don't know, it kinda leave a sour taste in my mouth, but I'm still interested to see it through to the end. |
| Wasn’t expecting that plot twist, but I dig where the direction of the series is going. I’m a little confused on the whole robot thing but hopefully we’ll find more details soon. |
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| That has to be the most far-fetched story development I've ever seen. |
WITA_ said: I. Am. So. Confused. So. Am. I. But I'm in! The world they're creating and the difference in classes is interesting. The avatar thing has me messed up, but I figure they'll explain it down it the line. |
| This sure took a weird turn and I have a mixed feeling about this. But I'll still continue to watch this to see where it will go. |
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| This is quite a change from what I expected! I am happy with how it is up to now, refreshing. |
Nainu_ said: Bruh, I didn't expect Kaburagi's flashback seems a lil bit cartoonish. It even advertised Deca-Dence like a RPG. Oh well, so the Kaburagi in human form was an avatar controlled by a non-human, if I'm correct. Paying the price due to that limit release. So, Dio here is like an admin owned by the company. Looks like a new dystopia has been introduced in this Deca-Dence. This worldbuilding is truly amazing. Cannot wait for the next episode. He is not the admin, probably just lower management or something from what it seeems |
Wait what? So basically they managed to program that world, basically a full dive VR and that's how they have to solve the bugs? I find that kinda funny, I mean those guys made AGI and can't make an AI to handle bugs, seems legit. no, it says in the "commercial" for the game that it's not a virtual world. But for whatever reason, this alien race decided to use it as a VR game for them to play in. The thing with the bugs is still confusing though. |
| Wow that was a rather....interesting scenario?? Those cartoon things lol. At least it explains Kaburagi's reasonings for being all suspicious last ep. Seems like he's gonna end up having to get rid of FeMC although I expect the show is gonna make them pair up to rebel against the administrators or smth OP is pretty good though ngl |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Lost most of my interest I had in this show the moment I saw cartoonish artstyle and this world actually being a vr world made me lost any interest I had left for this show. Proly gonna drop after next epi. |
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| The show just got more interesting and psychological. |
| So weird. To have a twist in episode 2 already. But tbh I find this makes the show a bit more interesting. (Though I would have hoped for some normal calm development withou twists.) It is better than late-twists like in Franxx. Yeah the glasses reminded me of Gurren Lagann as well. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huginn_and_Muninn I guess the humans on the fortress really are the last surviving humans on earth. VRMMORPG on a different level. :D Not the humans playing some games and interacting with fantasy races or human NPCs ... but those small guys (that probably are AI robots itself?) play a game where they also interact with the real humans. On real earth. I now wonder about the ship and the company. I guess we get more background on that as well - but much later and slower. Maybe the humans actually created that company to have those small guys managing the gears so they could have them fighting to survive. I don't know. But I want to know more for now. :D |
| Some seem to think this is a virtual world which they explained in the beginning that it wasn't. I guess the humans made the A.I do the job of fighting the gadolls for them by making them see it as entertainment, and if they don't do well they get replaced. Meanwhile the humans assist them in safety. Would certainly be helpful since the population is so small. The bugs are troublemakers or something and the chips are there to keep them and others in check. That or the A.I/aliens came from space and created Deca-dence for the last remaining humans and chose to fight against the gadolls for entertainment. They then control the humans via a chip and use them for support. I think this one makes more sense. I'm happy that they decided to make the story more original but it was a pretty bold move to make it like this. Very interesting direction to take but confusing if you don't pay attention. |
SkarvalinJul 15, 2020 1:11 PM
| Welp. Where do I even start? It begins with a big info dump just straight up explaining what you would have thought would be a big twist. This whole thing is an MMORPG for robots, which they almost desperately insist is totally different from an MMORPG for humans because…. ????????? The humans are all NPCs controlled by the system. It's like they watched Dendrogram and said "Yeah, man, but what if like, computers were the players, and people were controlled by computers? -takes long toke- And they're blue!" So then we get sucked into a flashback and montage following some of the robot players, who are drawn and animated as if they were goofy MMORPG things. Where is all this leading? Gruff Whose-His-Face is one of a suicidal robot playing the game, and something about Whose-Her-Face decides that he wants to keep living after all. This writed By Monkeys on Typewriters? What the episode didn't have this week was any of the animation or action it did last week. The ten thousand twists per second in the story did steal focus a bit, granted. I'm not even sure that the The Matrix twist is all that bad of one. Delivering it like this was definitely hamhanded though, and they're not doing the screeching teenage moron any favors either by her continuing to be a blithering idiot. It's just… a lot to take in, but the season's otherwise pretty crap, so I guess this is a rollercoaster that we're stuck on. |
| Wait, hold up! What the flying fudge did I just go through right now? Where's my post-apocalyptic world (like God Eater) story gone off to? Strange and a very unfitting direction this episode, if you ask me. Episode 1 was promising a solid post-apocalyptic story but I've next to no clue where this will be going now. It's hard to think that future episodes will turn the tides around but I'll be hoping so nonetheless. Op and ED, both song-wise and visually, were pretty darn good though. @NenharmaTheGreat @Farabeuf Exactly my thoughts. |
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| I guess that explains the HUD from the previous episode when it went to the guys PoV. Can't say I'm a fan of where this show headed but it's at least not enough to immediately drop the show for me. |
| It's doing just enough to keep me interested at the moment. Another 3/5 episode. It's a good thing the Natsume's quite an interesting character, because the rest of the series hasn't been great so far. |
JanPri said: I get pretty much everything except one thing; Why was Kaburagi's alien avatar in "present" shown to have 175 years remainin (16:09) when in the next scene (17:21) his operation limit is near the end? He'll be scrapped in 175 years, but he and his robot friends need to replenish their energy every so often to keep operating. He didn't do so since he wanted to die(?) due to what happened with Mikey, though he changed his mind in the end thanks to Natsume. |
| Did not expect an development that great, so the Deca-dence is a game but a game for the aliens and the human are NPC, this is very original I don't think i've seen something like this. And Natsume being a bug is even more interesting, the world building is absolutey great wow. |
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| It got quite confusing at the start but later all of the misunderstandings cleared up, let's see how this anime will surprise us next week! |
| WTH was that trash? This series seemed so good last week and now they killed it in a couple of minutes. Not sure if I should just drop it. |
| Last week we have retards complaining that this show is AoT's ripoff, and this week we'll have dumbasses complaining that this is an SAO's ripoff. |
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