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Jun 19, 2020 3:35 AM
#1
From the synopsis and the PV, it seems it's another Attack on Titan rip-off, just like Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress. But we'll see if it really turns out this way. |
Jun 19, 2020 4:40 AM
#2
I think that someone has to inform you that concept of 'humanity on a verge of extinction' is not invented by SNK. Try reading the synopsis of SNK to a non-anime fan and they will probably tell you that it reminds them of A Song of Ice and Fire. And it really does. |
Jun 19, 2020 5:49 AM
#3
In a sea of garbage anime and dozens of delays an Attack on Titan rip-off doesn't sound that bad anyway. |
Jun 19, 2020 6:50 AM
#4
It looks good. And the direction behind main plot can be totally different than AOT. And it seems more character focused than AOT. It gives off Mob Psycho Vibes on some level. I think this can be anime of the season for summer |
Jun 19, 2020 6:59 AM
#5
Humanity fighting for survival against something that isn't human doesn't make it an SnK rip off |
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Jun 19, 2020 12:08 PM
#6
Jesus then is SnK a Eva rip off then too? I mean there are humans who are facing massive extinction level threats and have to fight against creatures/monsters to preserve humanity . . . |
Jun 20, 2020 2:16 AM
#7
You really don't see obvious similarities? It's not just "humanity fighting for survival". Just look at the synopsis: In this show, humanity was nearly wiped out by unknown, mysterious creatures that suddenly emerged out of nowhere. So humans have built some kind of supposedly unconquerable fortress where all survivors continue to live (I have a feeling that it will turn out not so unconquerable). So in this fortress, there is a group of warriors and a group of average people that do all the work necessary for the survival of humanity. And we have a young protagonist that really wants to join this group of warriors for some reason. Sounds familiar? And look at the key visual and the PV, they literally use 3D maneuver gear from Attack on Titan! |
Jun 20, 2020 2:23 AM
#8
MSK3 said: Jesus then is SnK a Eva rip off then too? I mean there are humans who are facing massive extinction level threats and have to fight against creatures/monsters to preserve humanity . . . Wait until OP see's Eva was made long before AoT lmao. |
"Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas "Woof" -Tobiichi Origami "Are you trying to turn the dormitory into a strip club!?! -Atena Saotome |
Jun 20, 2020 3:58 PM
#9
Tropisch said: MSK3 said: Jesus then is SnK a Eva rip off then too? I mean there are humans who are facing massive extinction level threats and have to fight against creatures/monsters to preserve humanity . . . Wait until OP see's Eva was made long before AoT lmao. You probably think that you appeared smart by ridiculing me but if you would bother to check my profile before writing this stupid comment, you would notice that I have watched Eva (and not just once), and therefore I am very familiar with it. And also I have explained why it seems to me more like an Attack on Titan rip-off and not just another survival-of-mankind story in my previous comment, but you didn't bother to read it either. |
Jun 20, 2020 7:18 PM
#10
So SnK is Gurren Lagann ripoff? Humans cornered in bad place because new kind of monster is wandering out there? |
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
Jun 20, 2020 11:38 PM
#11
malinoski554 said: cmon it's made by studio NUT. the studio that made our wonderful Youjo Senki. What could go wrong?From the synopsis and the PV, it seems it's another Attack on Titan rip-off, just like Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress. But we'll see if it really turns out this way. |
Jun 21, 2020 8:42 AM
#12
BerriesSan said: It looks good. And the direction behind main plot can be totally different than AOT. And it seems more character focused than AOT. It gives off Mob Psycho Vibes on some level. I think this can be anime of the season for summer i guess that you are a Yuzuru Tachikawa fan too |
Jun 21, 2020 9:28 AM
#14
Deca-Dence Status: Not yet aired People already complain, oof. |
Jun 21, 2020 9:34 AM
#15
malinoski554 said: Tropisch said: MSK3 said: Jesus then is SnK a Eva rip off then too? I mean there are humans who are facing massive extinction level threats and have to fight against creatures/monsters to preserve humanity . . . Wait until OP see's Eva was made long before AoT lmao. You probably think that you appeared smart by ridiculing me but if you would bother to check my profile before writing this stupid comment, you would notice that I have watched Eva (and not just once), and therefore I am very familiar with it. And also I have explained why it seems to me more like an Attack on Titan rip-off and not just another survival-of-mankind story in my previous comment, but you didn't bother to read it either. I did read your stupid post though, stop thinking everything is a rip-off of your precious AoT. |
"Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas "Woof" -Tobiichi Origami "Are you trying to turn the dormitory into a strip club!?! -Atena Saotome |
Jun 21, 2020 9:41 AM
#16
malinoski554 said: You really don't see obvious similarities? It's not just "humanity fighting for survival". Just look at the synopsis: Most of them are written by complete scrubs and do not make any sense whatsoever. Wait for MAL Rewrite to write something for it. |
Jun 21, 2020 12:23 PM
#17
IbarakiDouji said: malinoski554 said: You really don't see obvious similarities? It's not just "humanity fighting for survival". Just look at the synopsis: Most of them are written by complete scrubs and do not make any sense whatsoever. Wait for MAL Rewrite to write something for it. Yes, I realize that we have no basis to judge yet, but that's why I said that we'll see how it really turns out in the future. I only said how it looks to me based on what we have at the moment, so that may be wrong. |
Jun 21, 2020 12:35 PM
#18
malinoski554 said: IbarakiDouji said: malinoski554 said: You really don't see obvious similarities? It's not just "humanity fighting for survival". Just look at the synopsis: Most of them are written by complete scrubs and do not make any sense whatsoever. Wait for MAL Rewrite to write something for it. Yes, I realize that we have no basis to judge yet, but that's why I said that we'll see how it really turns out in the future. I only said how it looks to me based on what we have at the moment, so that may be wrong. I did not read that part of your message: But we'll see if it really turns out this way. Apologies. |
Jun 21, 2020 1:18 PM
#19
BerriesSan said: It looks good. And the direction behind main plot can be totally different than AOT. And it seems more character focused than AOT. It gives off Mob Psycho Vibes on some level. I think this can be anime of the season for summer It is by the same director (Yuzuru Tachikawa) and script writer (Hiroshi Seko). I really hope it goes in the character development director rather than the thriller aspect of AOT and similar shows. Either way we can expect some great animation cuts here. |
Jun 21, 2020 11:01 PM
#20
Maher_Rayes said: BerriesSan said: It looks good. And the direction behind main plot can be totally different than AOT. And it seems more character focused than AOT. It gives off Mob Psycho Vibes on some level. I think this can be anime of the season for summer It is by the same director (Yuzuru Tachikawa) and script writer (Hiroshi Seko). I really hope it goes in the character development director rather than the thriller aspect of AOT and similar shows. Either way we can expect some great animation cuts here. yeah, it doesn't seem like it would be much of a good thriller |
Jun 22, 2020 2:33 PM
#21
Yeah, gives me Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress vibes which is also called an AoT rip off, this one just seems to be on a bigger scale. At the most though, we can call it “inspired by AoT”... |
Jun 22, 2020 2:55 PM
#22
attack on titan genres: Action, Military, Mystery, Super Power, Drama, Fantasy, Shounen deca dance genres: Action, Sci-Fi, Adventure also what do you mean "another" attack on titan isn't the most original plot anyway |
Jun 25, 2020 5:57 PM
#23
95% of anime premises and characters are a ripoff of something else, that doesn't make them automatically invalid or bad. What matters most is the execution. E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N. |
Jun 30, 2020 1:54 PM
#24
waffleman00 said: yeah they should execute this man for thinking AOT is the first anime with a plot like this anyway95% of anime premises and characters are a ripoff of something else, that doesn't make them automatically invalid or bad. What matters most is the execution. E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N. |
Jun 30, 2020 2:48 PM
#25
i think it's more like Shidonia no Kishi. same plot with humans living in fortress. |
Jul 2, 2020 12:28 PM
#26
Jul 2, 2020 3:31 PM
#27
Attack on Titan was inspired by Muv-Luv Alternative. In OP's words Attack on Titan is a "rip-off" From my view it doesn't make sense to discuss about it like that because it's simply nonsense. Not knowing the facts but posting about your own opinion as it would be a fact :/ Everything is kinda a rip-off of a rip-off of a rip-off in OP's way of thinking. Yeah, in the end we still have to see where Deca-Dence will be heading no matter what. But it will be it's own thing. It already looks like it's own thing. |
am4xJul 2, 2020 3:40 PM
Jul 3, 2020 5:23 PM
#28
I mean, "Humanity cornered and/or on the brink" is a pretty old setup in and out of Anime. My mind goes to "The Night Land", by William Hope Hodgson, a monster of a scifi/fantasy novel from 1912 (stylized as though from 1712, it's dense as hell) where humanity's "last millions" are eternally besieged in an impossibly gigantic fortress, outside of the protection of which the world is crawling with evil powers, giants, and monsters that would like nothing better than to eradicate mankind. Of course, Attack on Titan is a moderately recent hit with such themes. I think you could say this is following AoT's lead if it takes up similar traits like an interest in shock value, gore, a 'dark and gritty' tone, rampant militarism, humans being rotten/real monsters, or a relentless pessimism. Maybe not all of them, but at least some number of those tone and theme notes, in addition to the vague scenario of "Humanity has a stronghold and the rest is monster". To me, at least, it doesn't currently sound like that's where that is going. It still could, of course, but I think it would be premature to say that it will. |
Jul 3, 2020 11:40 PM
#29
I mean, I would hope its something at least similarly interesting. Everything else is looking like complete garbage this season except Oregairu. |
Jul 3, 2020 11:44 PM
#30
I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. |
MichaelJacksonJul 3, 2020 11:48 PM
:v |
Jul 3, 2020 11:55 PM
#31
Attack on Titan doesn’t exactly have a unique base plot or set of characters, there are many similar stories made before and after the release of AoT around the world in different languages. Execution of what’s being presented is the only things that matters, it’s also hard to determine something’s merit before it’s at least somewhat progressed through its story. |
Jul 4, 2020 9:14 AM
#32
Before they turned attack on titan to a regular shounen anime it could stand as something unique like a action anime with alot of horrors but soon enough it became like any popular overrated shounen, As soon as you knew that alot of reguler people were titans the horror aspect of the show went away |
Jul 4, 2020 10:18 AM
#33
MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. |
Jul 4, 2020 4:36 PM
#34
malinoski554 said: If anything this reminds me of chrome shelled regios. That anime had potential but wasted it all and was very confusing and underwhelming.From the synopsis and the PV, it seems it's another Attack on Titan rip-off, just like Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress. But we'll see if it really turns out this way. |
Jul 4, 2020 6:46 PM
#35
Kuroniiro said: Before they turned attack on titan to a regular shounen anime it could stand as something unique like a action anime with alot of horrors but soon enough it became like any popular overrated shounen, As soon as you knew that alot of reguler people were titans the horror aspect of the show went away The Titans actually being humans made things way more interesting. It provided more avenues to expand the world, to explore social, political and moral issues. If the Titans would have remained just mindless zombies it would have eventually turned boring since there would have been no more aspects to explore other than the horror aspect. It would have really limited the story. The Titans being humans is what made the story interesting for me since the first episodes were just okay for me, nothing to write home about. It's only after finding out Eren was a Titan that I became hooked on the show. |
Jul 4, 2020 7:03 PM
#36
From the trailer Deca-Dence reminds me more of Made in Abyss and Gurren Lagann. It looks more futuristic/technology based. Attack on Titan's setting reminds me more of late medieval Germany than some futuristic land like in Deca-Dence. The only similarity is the dystopia/last remnant of humanity aspect. Which has been done in fiction many times. |
Jul 6, 2020 1:44 PM
#37
Kuroniiro said: Before they turned attack on titan to a regular shounen anime it could stand as something unique like a action anime with alot of horrors but soon enough it became like any popular overrated shounen, As soon as you knew that alot of reguler people were titans the horror aspect of the show went away ?? If they hadn't gotten rid of the horror aspect AOT wouldn't even be as close to as good as it is today. A lot of the interesting drama and themes like how people view the other was done very well because the series dropped the horror aspect. Plus to be honest Isayama is better at writing that stuff vs just doing horror in my opinion. I still like S1 but I am going to be honest if that is all AOT ended up being it would have gotten boring. Overrated also is inherently a bad critique. Anyway AOT started out no different than any other post apocalypse story. One last human city and humanity on the break of destruction is a pretty common trope in that department way before AOT existed. The only other thing I can see is they use some sort of zip line. Still I bet the story is going to stick more with Apocalypse story-line so where the story goes could be completely different. Will be cautiously optimistic as the animation and art look good. |
Jul 7, 2020 12:29 AM
#38
VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. |
Jul 7, 2020 12:37 AM
#39
CobraFrost said: ahhhh thats not how it works, i can very well say that cowboy bepop had better animation than this had, and cowboy bepop is kinda old nowadays, animation doesnt really get better overtime, animation is a skill, not something technology can just improve.VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. |
Jul 7, 2020 1:35 AM
#40
VP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: ahhhh thats not how it works, i can very well say that cowboy bepop had better animation than this had, and cowboy bepop is kinda old nowadays, animation doesnt really get better overtime, animation is a skill, not something technology can just improve.VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. well no that boils down to just personal tastes then, the overall quality does get better overtime tho, it is the style that involves skill, the quality is something that just gets better overtime, it gets more refined |
Jul 7, 2020 1:48 AM
#41
CobraFrost said: I still disagree, the colours for example did get better thanks to digital animation and coloring isnt made by pencil anymore, but animation itself, the overall movement is pretty much the same, and 6 years isnt that much time to improve anywayVP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. well no that boils down to just personal tastes then, the overall quality does get better overtime tho, it is the style that involves skill, the quality is something that just gets better overtime, it gets more refined |
Jul 7, 2020 2:10 AM
#42
VP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: I still disagree, the colours for example did get better thanks to digital animation and coloring isnt made by pencil anymore, but animation itself, the overall movement is pretty much the same, and 6 years isnt that much time to improve anywayVP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: ahhhh thats not how it works, i can very well say that cowboy bepop had better animation than this had, and cowboy bepop is kinda old nowadays, animation doesnt really get better overtime, animation is a skill, not something technology can just improve.VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. well no that boils down to just personal tastes then, the overall quality does get better overtime tho, it is the style that involves skill, the quality is something that just gets better overtime, it gets more refined okay while 6 years is not that big of a difference, we see how much CG has evolved in the past years and the overall quality is getting better and better every year. |
Jul 7, 2020 2:27 AM
#43
CobraFrost said: Uhmmm i guess i can see that. Even though the cgi from later seasons of aot still looked pretty bad at times but im not saying this will look better than titan visually overall because it probably wont but what i meant was that this episode was more impressive than the premiere of aot i think its a factVP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: VP2003boi said: CobraFrost said: ahhhh thats not how it works, i can very well say that cowboy bepop had better animation than this had, and cowboy bepop is kinda old nowadays, animation doesnt really get better overtime, animation is a skill, not something technology can just improve.VP2003boi said: MichaelJackson said: I also watched the first episode and boy did i find way more apealling than episode 1 of aot. Better animated, at least in the character animation, better designs, way more CG but also way better done, better backgrounds and i already have a decent connection with the characters something i didnt have until very much later in attack on titan. Is the story better than aot tho? i have no idea, its episode 1.I saw your comment and I was"come on, must be an exageration", but I watched ep 1.... and It´s kinda a ripoff, let´s face it. and a dull one considering only the first episode. even kabaneri did a better job. it also has this desertpunk element that reminds me of Gurren lagann, but that one had a really promising start. Well, that is a weak argument if u ask me, aot released way before so obvs this will have better quality, it is not fair to compare something that released almost 7 years ago to few days ago, it is only a surprise if aot s1 had better animation than this thing. well no that boils down to just personal tastes then, the overall quality does get better overtime tho, it is the style that involves skill, the quality is something that just gets better overtime, it gets more refined okay while 6 years is not that big of a difference, we see how much CG has evolved in the past years and the overall quality is getting better and better every year. |
VP2003boiJul 7, 2020 4:03 AM
Jul 7, 2020 2:45 AM
#44
malinoski554 said: You really don't see obvious similarities? It's not just "humanity fighting for survival". Just look at the synopsis: In this show, humanity was nearly wiped out by unknown, mysterious creatures that suddenly emerged out of nowhere. So humans have built some kind of supposedly unconquerable fortress where all survivors continue to live (I have a feeling that it will turn out not so unconquerable). So in this fortress, there is a group of warriors and a group of average people that do all the work necessary for the survival of humanity. And we have a young protagonist that really wants to join this group of warriors for some reason. Sounds familiar? And look at the key visual and the PV, they literally use 3D maneuver gear from Attack on Titan! oh yeas it sounds very familiar for example to Soukyuu no Fafner which came out in 2004... and it surely wasn't the first this idea is absolutely nothing new or unique to attack on titan |
Jul 7, 2020 6:26 AM
#45
Kabaneri wasn't an Attack on Titan ripoff (Tetsuro Araki had already adapted High School of the Dead years prior to directing either AoT or Kabaneri) and neither is this. The whole concept of humanity fighting for survival has been around for ages. Blue Gender is one such series that comes to mind for me. |
Jul 7, 2020 9:14 PM
#46
Just because something looks like a rip-off doesn't mean it is. However, the writer of this series was also a script writer for AoT. |
Jul 7, 2020 9:23 PM
#47
it's not like aot was that good anyway |
#justise for koalas |
Jul 7, 2020 9:50 PM
#48
Yikes dude ya know that there're multiple concepts like SnK made before right? |
Jul 8, 2020 1:56 AM
#49
who cares it atleast looks like one of the better anime this season. And an AOT rip off is better than a degenerate ecchi . |
バンの一味 |
Jul 8, 2020 5:14 AM
#50
I knew the AOT rabid dogs would start attacking. The score is already less than 7. Typical AOT fans. AOT didn't invent the "humanity fighting for survival" trope. What a stupid post. |
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