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Jun 10, 2020 8:00 PM
#101
I've only seen Zero and UBW. I think they're alright shows but are insanely over-hyped, but that might change if I ever decide to rewatch them since I'll have a better understanding since Fate is a pretty complex series. I liked UBW slightly better then Zero. I'll probably check out the Heavens Feel movies soon, too. |
Jun 10, 2020 8:41 PM
#102
_Poxy_ said: well shit thanks bro appreciate it!bigdiccmystic said: I'd love to get into it... I just don't know where to start seems a bit confusing Fate/Zero then Stay Night (2006) followed by Unlimited Bladeworks and finally the Heaven Feel's films. Honestly, the only Fates worth watching are the Emiya-centric ones. I thoroughly enjoyed Stay Night (2006) since it reminds me of that golden era of the mid-2000's. |
Jun 10, 2020 8:43 PM
#103
bigdiccmystic said: _Poxy_ said: well shit thanks bro appreciate it!bigdiccmystic said: I'd love to get into it... I just don't know where to start seems a bit confusing Fate/Zero then Stay Night (2006) followed by Unlimited Bladeworks and finally the Heaven Feel's films. Honestly, the only Fates worth watching are the Emiya-centric ones. I thoroughly enjoyed Stay Night (2006) since it reminds me of that golden era of the mid-2000's. Be warned that the 2006 F/SN anime hasn't aged well in terms of animation and art (it was made by a different studio) so you may want to skip from F/Z to F/SN UBW (2014) which have a similiar artstyle and really great animation. The 2006 anime is not really needed to understand UBW or HF anyway |
Jun 10, 2020 9:02 PM
#104
Jun 10, 2020 11:44 PM
#105
Aardwolf94 said: awesome dude thanks great series so farbigdiccmystic said: _Poxy_ said: bigdiccmystic said: I'd love to get into it... I just don't know where to start seems a bit confusing Fate/Zero then Stay Night (2006) followed by Unlimited Bladeworks and finally the Heaven Feel's films. Honestly, the only Fates worth watching are the Emiya-centric ones. I thoroughly enjoyed Stay Night (2006) since it reminds me of that golden era of the mid-2000's. Be warned that the 2006 F/SN anime hasn't aged well in terms of animation and art (it was made by a different studio) so you may want to skip from F/Z to F/SN UBW (2014) which have a similiar artstyle and really great animation. The 2006 anime is not really needed to understand UBW or HF anyway |
Jun 10, 2020 11:57 PM
#106
I like it, in this order Fate Zero Fate Apocrypha Fate Grand Order Fate Extra Last encore Fate Unlimited Blade Works Fate Stay Night Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya Saber Arturia used to be my waifu about 7 years ago, the fandom is varied and not really as bad as some other fandoms. I have a dream, I want to see a heroic spirit's backstory. I mean that being the plot of the anime. In Fate Grand Order, I almost got that with Gilgamesh. But he had visitors, which I didn't care about. So now I want another spirit's life story to be addapted in its own anime. |
Jun 11, 2020 12:09 AM
#107
As entertainment, can be quite the ride with great action and visual effects As a "philosophically deep masterpiece!"... lmao |
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Jun 11, 2020 12:18 AM
#108
I call it bhangaar (in my native language) which means garbage/useless things which can be sold third handed. |
Jun 11, 2020 12:33 AM
#109
Jun 11, 2020 12:39 AM
#110
I'd need someone to hold my hand through it in order to start. No idea what it's about, all I know is it's from a VN, which I'd be more interested in playing than watching. |
Jun 11, 2020 3:58 AM
#111
Overall just to complicated to get into |
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Jun 11, 2020 4:15 AM
#112
I intend to marathon every Type-Moon anime starting with Tsukihime till the last adapted one in order of release. One day. |
Jun 11, 2020 4:36 AM
#113
A fun action series that isn't anywhere near as complicated as it's made out to be. The action is the draw and the story, even Fate/Zero isn't anything amazing, but it's worth a watch. |
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Jun 11, 2020 4:46 AM
#114
I only watched fate zero from it, and to be honest, I was very much disappointed by it, especially s2, I gave it a 3/10, the lowest rating I've ever given to a plot based anime. It just left a bad taste in my mouth tbh and there were many characters that I hated. I only liked the scenes of Rider, Waver and rin. |
Jun 11, 2020 4:47 AM
#115
Been a long time fan since good old Deen/Stay Night. After watching Fate/zero and playing the visual novel it really cemented the franchise as a favourite. However, I’m not a big fan of any of the branch shows like Apocryhpa, Babylonia etc. I even tried F/go since people said Camelot and Babylonia were worth it but I honestly wasn’t that impressed. Really looking forward to seeing the last two Heavens Feel movies, though. |
Jun 11, 2020 4:47 AM
#116
Zero was great, but UBW or overall pretty damn overrated. The visuals are nice to look at, it's just that the action lacks the hype of a battle shounen and there's too much pseudo deepness that can't hold a candle to an actually well written work. Maybe I watched it with the wrong mindset, but unless you're a sourcefag I don't see what would warrant the high praise. |
FMmatronJun 11, 2020 4:53 AM
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Jun 11, 2020 4:50 AM
#117
One of the most divisive fandom just like Gundam franchise with it's UC fans and AU fans. Fate franchise has also different continuities being the fsn continuity and spinoffs continuity which divide the fans. Also having stories originally made from different platform VN, LN, manga, mobile game, and console game, fans will argue which is the best, the worst or mediocre. It's a fan being in the fandom, since you can find someone to talk about who share the same or similar interest as you. It's also a fandom, whose fans roast it's own co-fans xD The fate/zero is my favorite fate anime, since it's the most faithful among the adaptations, plus being made in ufotable it has consistent animation and superb soundtrack by kajiura. UBW is a mixed bag to me since it's not that faithful adaptation. I love so far the direction and nuanced where getting in HF. Fate spinoffs are a more amusing watch for fsn continuity fans, where it's fun to spot fsn references. |
Jun 11, 2020 4:58 AM
#118
my response isn't that valid but coming from someone who knows almost nothing about it (besides kirei, of course i know him) but it honestly seems really cool. i plan to eventually get into it and some of the art for it looks beautiful, but it also seems very confusing to me |
Jun 11, 2020 6:40 AM
#119
My favourite one is S/N Heaven's feel, and the one I found worst is S/N Unlimited Blade Works. |
Jun 11, 2020 6:51 AM
#120
Psajdak said: I intend to marathon every Type-Moon anime starting with Tsukihime till the last adapted one in order of release. One day. Remember to try Kara no Kyoukai: The Garden of Sinners |
Jun 11, 2020 7:10 AM
#121
My favorite Fate anime in order: Fate/Zero Fate/Stay Night UBW and HF Fate/Grand Order Fate/Kaleid Fate/Apocrypha Fate/Stay Night Fate/Extra Last Encore |
Jun 11, 2020 7:30 AM
#122
Its seems like everytime i watch other anime, it just pale in comparison to nasuverse anime. It just so damn interesting and chuuni. Favorite: ufotable ubw Dislike: probably last encore The fanbase is alright, not as toxic as some people say. |
Jun 11, 2020 8:40 AM
#123
I’d consider the Fate Series to be a combination of Pokémon and Historical/Mythological characters. |
Jun 11, 2020 8:47 AM
#124
Put in simple terms: Too much history 7.8/10 |
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Jun 11, 2020 11:08 AM
#125
It's one of those series that tries to be everything, causing a lot of dissonance. It wants to be serious and edgy with rape and whatnot, but it also wants to be colorful and have its waifus. It wants to be lighthearted, but also very dark. It wants to be everything; a jack of all trades, causing it to be a master of none. I think the reason for this is partially due to all the spinoffs and whatnot that go all over the place. However, it's been years since I last watched the DEEN adaptation and UBW, but I love Heaven's Feel and Zero for how consistent they feel in tone. |
Jun 11, 2020 1:37 PM
#126
This thread has been moved to the correct sub-board. "Anime/Manga specific threads should go into their respective sub-boards." |
Jun 12, 2020 10:19 AM
#127
One of my favorite characters of all time, no one like this guy ->Emiya Kiritsugu, but they basically distroyed his character in order to welcome some new young character. Thats all fine and dandy to do, but you need to keep the main guy in your story, they could keep the knife baddy but not Kiritsugu= a major mistake. Its like if Miura would erase Guts, or Araki would erase Jotaro, I mean come on people wtf... So the writing was shit in that sense. Also who has such cool hair? I mean just look at that shape |
Mila91Jun 12, 2020 10:33 AM
Jun 12, 2020 4:32 PM
#128
Mila91 said: One of my favorite characters of all time, no one like this guy ->Emiya Kiritsugu, but they basically distroyed his character in order to welcome some new young character. Thats all fine and dandy to do, but you need to keep the main guy in your story, they could keep the knife baddy but not Kiritsugu= a major mistake. Its like if Miura would erase Guts, or Araki would erase Jotaro, I mean come on people wtf... So the writing was shit in that sense. Also who has such cool hair? I mean just look at that shape Kiritsugu is one of my favourite characters ever as well but I don't think his character was destroyed by the dark ending he got. It was fitting for his story imho. Also F/Z is a prequel that was made after F/SN so it was already clear that his story isn't going to end in a happy way. But considering how lame Shirou is I definitely wish there was some alternate F/SN that keeps going with Kiritsugu as the MC. |
Jun 12, 2020 4:44 PM
#129
@Aardwolf94 yes I agree its okay they made his story sad , but they could have kept him,yes thats what I meant , when I said "destroyed" I meant "not having him anymore in the anime" I hope that makes sense. I really would love to see more of him, glad to hear you're a fan too. |
Jun 12, 2020 6:31 PM
#130
Mila91 said: @Aardwolf94 yes I agree its okay they made his story sad , but they could have kept him,yes thats what I meant , when I said "destroyed" I meant "not having him anymore in the anime" I hope that makes sense. I really would love to see more of him, glad to hear you're a fan too. Why would they have him in stories and anime anymore? His story is over. |
Apr 24, 2021 2:20 PM
#131
Hakunon said: Amazing idea and has potential as a series but Nasu's writing is mediocre at best and it ruins it. That's why Fate/Zero is the best God you sound unintelligent. It seems you know absolutely nothing about good writing. Go watch your childish garbage MHA, HxH and Shit piece. It seems you cannot understand deep and complex psychological themes nor can you understand the concepts relating to deontology and consequentialism, which are the core themes of FSN, FSN is also a deconstruction of heroism, if you didn't know. |
Apr 24, 2021 2:56 PM
#132
Allen-DeltaG said: Hakunon said: Amazing idea and has potential as a series but Nasu's writing is mediocre at best and it ruins it. That's why Fate/Zero is the best God you sound unintelligent. It seems you know absolutely nothing about good writing. Go watch your childish garbage MHA, HxH and Shit piece. It seems you cannot understand deep and complex psychological themes nor can you understand the concepts relating to deontology and consequentialism, which are the core themes of FSN, FSN is also a deconstruction of heroism, if you didn't know. go outside lmaoooo |
Apr 24, 2021 2:57 PM
#133
One of the greatest series to ever be created. Peak characters, peak animation, peak fights, peak themes, peak everything. It's so good |
Apr 24, 2021 3:49 PM
#134
Hakunon said: Allen-DeltaG said: Hakunon said: Amazing idea and has potential as a series but Nasu's writing is mediocre at best and it ruins it. That's why Fate/Zero is the best God you sound unintelligent. It seems you know absolutely nothing about good writing. Go watch your childish garbage MHA, HxH and Shit piece. It seems you cannot understand deep and complex psychological themes nor can you understand the concepts relating to deontology and consequentialism, which are the core themes of FSN, FSN is also a deconstruction of heroism, if you didn't know. go outside lmaoooo Wow, you didn't add anything to the discussion. I gave facts, simple as that. And you have nothing to show for it. Fate/Zero had no character development, no world building, no core theme, all the characters had no point or depth to them, the themes weren't explored, all examples why Fate Zero is shit writing. FSN is a masterpiece. |
Apr 25, 2021 7:01 AM
#135
Allen-DeltaG said: Hakunon said: Allen-DeltaG said: Hakunon said: Amazing idea and has potential as a series but Nasu's writing is mediocre at best and it ruins it. That's why Fate/Zero is the best God you sound unintelligent. It seems you know absolutely nothing about good writing. Go watch your childish garbage MHA, HxH and Shit piece. It seems you cannot understand deep and complex psychological themes nor can you understand the concepts relating to deontology and consequentialism, which are the core themes of FSN, FSN is also a deconstruction of heroism, if you didn't know. go outside lmaoooo Wow, you didn't add anything to the discussion. I gave facts, simple as that. And you have nothing to show for it. Fate/Zero had no character development, no world building, no core theme, all the characters had no point or depth to them, the themes weren't explored, all examples why Fate Zero is shit writing. FSN is a masterpiece. dude don't you have anything better to do that digging old comments insulting people cause they don't like your animated waifu show? Sticking random philosophy terms to an unoriginal weebish story doesnt make it more original. |
courierrApr 25, 2021 7:05 AM
May 7, 2021 1:31 PM
#136
Basically Fate animes are made for its fans. The fact that they adapted Zero first shows that they don't care about anime onlies. Good thing Zero turned out to be such a good anime,but sadly there are people who thought that Zero is the main story of Fate and expected everything else to be similar to it. Fsn 3 routes are all flawed adaptations, you'll miss a lot of things from a great story. Extra last encore and fgo are unwatchable if you haven't played the games |
May 7, 2021 2:33 PM
#137
Fate/stay night (all route btw) >>>>> everything /0 is just a prequel from Urobochi. As expected, the ending. /Apocrypha is fucking good, as an alternate universe. Jeanne is best waifu. /Extra is just another level. I don't know some things about CCC, since I'm not interested in the beginning. Not that cool. /GO is great (story-wise), but trash (money-wise). Camelot and Anastasia are 9/10. /Prototype is ehh, I don't like the character design only and MY PRECIOUS SABER TURNED INTO A BISHOUNEN. Nope. El-Melloi II's Case Files is goddamn good. It's great to learn more about Clock Tower. And haven't read /kaleid Prisma Illya yet. In summary, Fate Series is "what the fuck". Too fucking many lore and alternate universe. |
PlayayMay 7, 2021 6:23 PM
May 7, 2021 9:15 PM
#138
Jun 22, 2021 3:04 PM
#139
Jun 22, 2021 3:07 PM
#140
It's a phenomenal series, it has a little bit of everything which isn't the easiest thing to find in animes. It's Top 3 all time for me if you're including the visual novels as well. |
Jun 27, 2021 6:34 PM
#141
Mila91 said: I know this is an old post, but Kiritsugu's ending was made for him before he as a character really existed, in Fate/Stay Night he was just Shirou's father who it turned out to be a lot more important to the lore than he seemed and the memory of his death is one of the first things we see of him, as well as being one of the most important events in Shirou's life. He was a plot device with some characterisation that only existed for the purpose of Shirou's, One of my favorite characters of all time, no one like this guy ->Emiya Kiritsugu, but they basically distroyed his character in order to welcome some new young character. Thats all fine and dandy to do, but you need to keep the main guy in your story, they could keep the knife baddy but not Kiritsugu= a major mistake. Its like if Miura would erase Guts, or Araki would erase Jotaro, I mean come on people wtf... So the writing was shit in that sense. Also who has such cool hair? I mean just look at that shape Saber's and Illya's |
Jun 27, 2021 10:13 PM
#142
As a whole it is a potential thrown away. Fate has a good idea to make so many good stories, but they prefer to just focus on waifu. It's despicable, if you think about it. |
Jun 27, 2021 10:14 PM
#143
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Nov 3, 2021 4:57 AM
#144
One of the most brainwasher anime titles of all time and one of the most overrated. With its great animation made by ufotable, the story quality is overlooked. |
Mar 21, 2023 5:11 PM
#146
They should have ended it after spring song. And I say that as the whole franchise mobage included. People are going to get sick of the mobage and quit. You just cannot keep interest for that long They made so much money off the mobage but the fgo movies are not good. There is so little fate stuff now and it feels like forever since we got an anime since they went the movie route. The fgo movies did bad critically and commercially. Interest is kind of dead in the series.i see no one talking about it anymore. If nasu chose to retire the franchise with him, more shows can get followup seasons but no. Fate as a franchise needs to end now |
icefirestone23Mar 22, 2023 2:42 AM
Mar 23, 2023 3:24 AM
#147
icefirestone23 said: People are going to get sick of the mobage and quit. Definitely not. Fate/Grand Order is still extremely popular (and makes a lot of money) , and it won't stop anytime soon. icefirestone23 said: There is so little fate stuff now and it feels like forever since we got an anime since they went the movie route. The fgo movies did bad critically and commercially. It's because the Fate franchise (and even just Type-Moon in general) isn't an Anime one tho , they are Games/Novels , and the Animes are just a bonus. (The F/GO Animes are literally presents for the fans made for the 7th Anniversary of the Game...) We are getting a lot of content right now (Lostbelt 7 , Samurai Remnant , Lost Einherjar...) , plus all the ongoing stuffs (Plus works in the Nasuverse outside of Fate) ... There is content , and not just a little. |
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Mar 23, 2023 6:33 AM
#148
Alexioos95 said: icefirestone23 said: People are going to get sick of the mobage and quit. Definitely not. Fate/Grand Order is still extremely popular (and makes a lot of money) , and it won't stop anytime soon. icefirestone23 said: There is so little fate stuff now and it feels like forever since we got an anime since they went the movie route. The fgo movies did bad critically and commercially. It's because the Fate franchise (and even just Type-Moon in general) isn't an Anime one tho , they are Games/Novels , and the Animes are just a bonus. (The F/GO Animes are literally presents for the fans made for the 7th Anniversary of the Game...) We are getting a lot of content right now (Lostbelt 7 , Samurai Remnant , Lost Einherjar...) , plus all the ongoing stuffs (Plus works in the Nasuverse outside of Fate) ... There is content , and not just a little. Fgo is no longer a top grosser especially in global meaning that server cannot last forever. Game itself kind of did more damage than good to the anime scene since now everything has to have a cash grab mobage. Let's be real in the quality of fate has crashed ever since ufotable left it for demon slayer. No one in Japan is watching the movies now. If the fans were, they should be making at least 10 million The franchise is long overdue retiring especially since it literally past its endpoint with spring song. |
Mar 23, 2023 7:07 AM
#149
icefirestone23 said: Fgo is no longer a top grosser especially in global meaning that server cannot last forever. It's still 3rd in the Play Store , and even if i didn't took the time to check , i would be surprised if it dived down more on others stores. icefirestone23 said: Game itself kind of did more damage than good to the anime scene since now everything has to have a cash grab mobage. Fate always has been a cash grab. Why do you think it was released as an Eroge to begin with ? icefirestone23 said: Let's be real in the quality of fate has crashed ever since ufotable left it for demon slayer. Well , the Main Story is completed , so only Spin-Offs and Parodies are left , and like for most series , they are not as good/popular as the Main Story , especially since they (or atleast most) are not even written by the original Author... Dunno what's the correlation to Kimetsu no Yaiba tho , most of those Spin-Offs/Parodies started way before Kimetsu no Yaiba even began as a Manga. icefirestone23 said: No one in Japan is watching the movies now. If the fans were, they should be making at least 10 million The franchise is long overdue retiring especially since it literally past its endpoint with spring song. The F/GO Movies still did more than 3 millions while the continuity can be followed only by those who played the Game. Even if it's clearly not as much as the Heaven's Feel Trilogy , it's still 20% of it. And again , it's not bad for a Spin-Off like that. You can not expect a Side-project to be as popular/good than a Main one , but it doesn't mean that this Side-project isn't popular/good as it's own scale. With the characters of Fate being historical figures , there is a shitload of possibilities to exploit , and i don't think Type-Moon will pass on them. But yeah , the Main/True Story is already done , and we probably won't get something as great in the franchise , but it doesn't mean the franchise should necessary die. Edit : Also , we talk only about Animes of Fate , but it's just a bonus source of money for Type-Moon , they always have other series that give them a lot , such as the Tsukihime Remake or the latest Melty Blood. |
Alexioos95Mar 23, 2023 7:31 AM
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Mar 23, 2023 6:15 PM
#150
Alexioos95 said: 2-3 million with the fate branding and aniplex labelling is more or less a flop. The budget is likely higher than like 1.5 million and they need to make like 2x-2.5x the amount. Theatres like take half the money. Plus the marketing costs due to the fate branding. Meaning they likely lost money on the fgo movies. And if they lost money on the movies, it can cause trouble when developing later animes. The movies themselves were of questionable quality. The fight scenes were just not that good and often weak visuals. It feels like a pretty bad experience next to what ufotable has done. They should look much better considering producers should have a lot of money. People complain how dragon ball is getting milked yet that movie made bank at the box officeThe F/GO Movies still did more than 3 millions while the continuity can be followed only by those who played the Game. Even if it's clearly not as much as the Heaven's Feel Trilogy , it's still 20% of it. Alexioos95 said: 1 million on one of the platforms is actually not high anymore especially compared to stuff like the dragon ball and yugioh ones. It still does good in japan but revenue dropped enough for delightworks to be acquired. Also fgo sort of started the trend of companies just using anime to push a mobage game, and it is happening for like everything. And burning too many fans of many series. The SAO and RZ ones had too many shutdowns and they just keep on making new ones.It's still 3rd in the Play Store , and even if i didn't took the time to check , i would be surprised if it dived down more on others stores. Alexioos95 said: For the most part they kind of milked the franchise to the maximum and they are reaching a cap on it. It has happened to pretty much every long running franchise like yugioh and pokemon where they exhausted the possibilities, and interest just kind of collapses. Not sure what else can they do after strange/fakeWith the characters of Fate being historical figures , there is a shitload of possibilities to exploit , and i don't think Type-Moon will pass on them. But yeah , the Main/True Story is already done , and we probably won't get something as great in the franchise , but it doesn't mean the franchise should necessary die. But I cannot certainly be the only one who things the brand right now is being dragged through the mud once ufotable went for KnY |
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