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Apr 30, 2020 10:55 PM
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Meanwhile the name " Katarina " was using in MAL and "Bakarina", in the Anime Trending and some other page name " Catarina ", so which name is correct for this kawaii main villain in this otome game ?
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May 1, 2020 11:09 AM
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It's Katarina or also known as Bakarina amongst source fans
May 1, 2020 8:12 PM
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Mattinator95 said:
It's Katarina or also known as Bakarina amongst source fans

Why would she be called "Bakarina"? I haven't read the source so I won't know why. Those 4 episodes that were aired still has not hinted me that anything about her being called "Bakarina"
May 2, 2020 7:45 AM
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KrulYuno said:
Mattinator95 said:
It's Katarina or also known as Bakarina amongst source fans

Why would she be called "Bakarina"? I haven't read the source so I won't know why. Those 4 episodes that were aired still has not hinted me that anything about her being called "Bakarina"


I was going to call her that too haha, BAKA means "idiot" right? KATARINA + BAKA = BAKARINA, I won't spoil the manga but as you saw in the anime, every character is falling for her, tho that, she seems not to notice, you have to be really silly to not notice if someone kiss your neck or blush around you xD
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May 2, 2020 8:28 AM
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but why not bakatarina? like bakaguya? I'd like to know why the masses prefer the other


May 2, 2020 10:15 AM
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YumiShinku said:
KrulYuno said:

Why would she be called "Bakarina"? I haven't read the source so I won't know why. Those 4 episodes that were aired still has not hinted me that anything about her being called "Bakarina"


I was going to call her that too haha, BAKA means "idiot" right? KATARINA + BAKA = BAKARINA, I won't spoil the manga but as you saw in the anime, every character is falling for her, tho that, she seems not to notice, you have to be really silly to not notice if someone kiss your neck or blush around you xD

Oh, she's called Bakarina cuz she's insensitive(?) hmm... that's why. I guess completing the show would eventually tell me the complete answer.
May 2, 2020 10:34 AM
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X500658 said:
but why not bakatarina? like bakaguya? I'd like to know why the masses prefer the other


Not really that deep. Bakarina flows better
May 2, 2020 2:11 PM
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KrulYuno said:
Mattinator95 said:
It's Katarina or also known as Bakarina amongst source fans

Why would she be called "Bakarina"? I haven't read the source so I won't know why. Those 4 episodes that were aired still has not hinted me that anything about her being called "Bakarina"

She's called bakarina because her denseness to everyone around her being in love with her in some form is strong enough that not even light can escape it.

TL;DR, bakarina is a idiot, who doesn't realize that she's loved by everyone, even blatant confessions won't work on her.
May 2, 2020 7:21 PM
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In the web novel, though it has been a few years since i’ve read it, Bakarina is Bakarina because she’s trying so hard to prevent her doom, and even up until she is friends with Maria, she doesn’t realise that her doom flag was destroyed long ago. She’s just overall dense, and even though she comes up with plans, most of them she either doesn’t end up doing properly or they work way too well for the wrong reasons. Most of the time she just ends up defaulting to being her wacky self despite trying to scheme like a villainess.

Thus, Bakarina is Bakarina.
May 2, 2020 7:26 PM
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Isn't there a game with that title? One that the protagonist dates a girl and cheats on her with another with the same name but with the first letter changed.
May 3, 2020 5:34 AM

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Doesn't really matter tbh.

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May 3, 2020 6:45 AM
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The C sounds more aristocratic IMO.
May 4, 2020 7:02 PM
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emolano said:
Isn't there a game with that title? One that the protagonist dates a girl and cheats on her with another with the same name but with the first letter changed.


You're talking about Catherine, that's a different name.

And about the thread, it should be either Katarina or Catharina (with an h)
May 4, 2020 9:40 PM
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konza said:
emolano said:
Isn't there a game with that title? One that the protagonist dates a girl and cheats on her with another with the same name but with the first letter changed.


You're talking about Catherine, that's a different name.

And about the thread, it should be either Katarina or Catharina (with an h)
Close enough lol but yeah that one ty
May 7, 2020 4:06 AM

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Mattinator95 said:
It's Katarina or also known as Bakarina amongst source fans

Yep i know the name Bakarina since i read manga, and btw it's a funny name :))))))
May 20, 2020 2:53 PM

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If I am not wrong the official name is "Catarina", the italian name not Catherine or similar. But we manga and light novel readers got used to カタリナ (Katarina) so we call her Katarina or bakarina.
May 20, 2020 4:19 PM

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I'll start my own Vodka distillery. And the name of it will be BAKARINA.


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Jun 1, 2020 5:38 AM

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Btw, i was reading the manga and remembered this topic.

there, in Japan, its Catarina.







Why does the westerners never respect the "Romanji" spelling of names chosen by the japanese authors?
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both are wrong her name is Bakarina
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Jul 28, 2020 1:37 PM

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Rob7 said:
Btw, i was reading the manga and remembered this topic.

there, in Japan, its Catarina.

Why does the westerners never respect the "Romanji" spelling of names chosen by the japanese authors?

Aren't the authors use kanji/hiragana/katakana? And in case of hiragana/katakana, has each symbol has only one sound, e.g."カ" = "ka". And one symbol cannot have more sounds, e.g. "カ" cannot have "ka" & "ca" sounds at the same time. Am I right?

Even with this whole "Catarina" vs "Katarina", in my country it could be "Katarzyna".
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Wannabiteme said:
Rob7 said:
Btw, i was reading the manga and remembered this topic.

there, in Japan, its Catarina.

Why does the westerners never respect the "Romanji" spelling of names chosen by the japanese authors?

Aren't the authors use kanji/hiragana/katakana? And in case of hiragana/katakana, has each symbol has only one sound, e.g."カ" = "ka". And one symbol cannot have more sounds, e.g. "カ" cannot have "ka" & "ca" sounds at the same time. Am I right?

Even with this whole "Catarina" vs "Katarina", in my country it could be "Katarzyna".



I'm not sure if the reason why westerners never respect the Romaji chosen, i repeat, chosen by the own author of the work, is because they know more about japanese language transliteration than the japanese author.

I guess it is more about what you said in the end: westerners simply translate names for something they think is more usual in their countries.


But why a country that uses Latin Alphabet translates a name that is already in Latin characters? (the romaji chosen by the author)

"Translating" the spelling of names that you actually can read and type without problems is so unrespectful.

How does people translated "Donald Trump" in this country? "Donadzy Trzymp"? Or maybe just translate common names. In this case, the Elizabeth Queen of England is translated too?
Jul 30, 2020 5:26 AM

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Rob7 said:

"Translating" the spelling of names that you actually can read and type without problems is so unrespectful.

How does people translated "Donald Trump" in this country? "Donadzy Trzymp"? Or maybe just translate common names. In this case, the Elizabeth Queen of England is translated too?

The problem is with English is that sounds does not equal letter(s). So maybe Catarina with C is not used in English? According to wiki (I don't know better place) there is no Catarina: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Feminine_given_names&from=C So maybe the author mess this? You know it's easy to spell something in English but Japanese is soooooooo easy to spell.
Donarudzu Tsurumupu -> どなるづ つるむぷ? Maybe little different but they would use sounds they use to write into their language.
Jul 30, 2020 7:38 AM

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There is no Catarina name with C in english, neither there names like Xi Jinping, Saoirse Ronan, Chloë Sevigny, Álvaro Morte... Even so these names are not "translated", because it is not supposed to translate names of people if it already uses your alphabet.

All said, there is a strong lack of respect with japanese authors by the western media that do the distribution of anime and manga in the western, where they assume that adapt every name is necessary, even if the author has already chosen a official transliteration. Something that this media avoids when the work is also from another western but not speaking-english country.

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