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TheFirmSword said: For example I will start : The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. lol I enjoyed those ~50 episodes a lot, sucks to be you |
TheFirmSword said: Okay let's have a discussion, someone will comment on a particular thing they disliked in a certain anime series and if you're a big fan of the show describe (not being harsh or insulting the person) why he/she is wrong. Let's just have a friendly discussion. For example I will start : The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. It's called the best arc for a reason. First of all that ending is one of the best arc endings, and I've never seen such wonderful character development elsewhere. The only reason why you call it boring is because it was long, but it couldn't have ended better. Most people are actually going to rate an anime with a really awesome ending higher than an anime with amazing and engaging initial episodes, but a terrible ending. |
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ccbestgirl said: TheFirmSword said: Okay let's have a discussion, someone will comment on a particular thing they disliked in a certain anime series and if you're a big fan of the show describe (not being harsh or insulting the person) why he/she is wrong. Let's just have a friendly discussion. For example I will start : The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. It's called the best arc for a reason. First of all that ending is one of the best arc endings, and I've never seen such wonderful character development elsewhere. The only reason why you call it boring is because it was long, but it couldn't have ended better. Most people are actually going to rate an anime with a really awesome ending higher than an anime with amazing and engaging initial episodes, but a terrible ending. It is not called anything. That is just your opinion all along. I honestly think it is one of the worst shounen arc ever created. The character development were overdone on a ridiculous level that was difficult to take seriously. It's like putting so much sauce on a steak to makes your plate look like a shitty soup instead. |
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MujinTengu said: Kimetsu no Yaiba - I don't like it that all the characters looks like 14 years old kids, it could of been much better if they were around the age of 20-25 Why is age relevant to anything from this series. |
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TheFirmSword said: fuckgendo said: the cowboy bebop... was kinda boring. i think it's just bc im not a fan of the whole sci fi genre and i dislike episodic shows but i wasn't paying attention most of the time. I think you should give cowboy bebop a second chance especially in the second half where actually it becomes semi-episodic actions consequence have start having to effect next episodes. yeah but by then i dont care about the characters enough to care about the rest |
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TheFirmSword said: Okay let's have a discussion, someone will comment on a particular thing they disliked in a certain anime series and if you're a big fan of the show describe (not being harsh or insulting the person) why he/she is wrong. Let's just have a friendly discussion. For example I will start : The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. I feel you as my friend is also always saying thats the best arc, but at the end of the day they are saying it from their prespective, you feel me some people are gona think its garbage some people gona think it's lit af. but to me its that there was its up and downs some time get borind but most of the time it's pretty lit lmao. feel free to lmk what yall guys think XD |
| Good luck with that...You're asking people to state an unfavorable opinion on something people love and expecting a civilized rebuttal in response... This is the anime "community" we're talking about here, more importantly, this is the internet we're talking about here. Not to mention you're asking people to dispute another persons opinion, which is all but impossible to do...Its not like we're discussing actual facts. That being said, I agree that the chimera ant arc was pretty boring and I'll also add that I don't think Gintama is all that funny. Now watch... If someone actually does respond to this, it likely won't end in a nice polite discussion. In fact, I'm pretty sure anyone who would want to dispute this would immediately stop reading right after the part where I stated I didn't find Gintama funny..or maybe even before that where i agree the chimera ant arc as boring. Boy would I love to be proven wrong though. |
| So many of these posts aren't really very good discussion material. Just really badly worded opinions with very little depth of thought put in to them. Hell, half of the comments are just "I didn't like x show", "x show was garbage", or "x show was bad because I didn't like x thing about it". WHY didn't you like the show or specific thing about the show??? "It's bad because it's bad"? If you can't properly express in detail the reasons you didn't like something then I just don't care what you have to say and I don't know how you can expect anyone else to. I have something I've been eager to share and maybe get some opinions on since finishing Re:Zero season 1, but decided to post it in the anime specific forum because, while it may take longer, I can expect a greater number of - and more thought-out - replies than in this thread. |
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Setsuei said: I didn't find Gintama funny I actually agree about Gintama not being funny. I have a grudge against parodies. Gintama in my eyes is a wasted opportunity of what could have been an amazing anime. But the comedy is unnecessary and it being a parody is the biggest shame a shounen series can face. I like the chimera ant arc, because its when Gon goes spoiler and Pitou gets spoiler. Not to mention Gon and Killua get in to an argument. The suffocating atmosphere of how endangered everyone feels when they approach a certain staircase, that is like, hell is on top of that staircase and abandon all hope, ye who climb up here. Love that atmosphere. |
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zieek said: Setsuei said: I didn't find Gintama funny I actually agree about Gintama not being funny. I have a grudge against parodies. Gintama in my eyes is a wasted opportunity of what could have been an amazing anime. But the comedy is unnecessary and it being a parody is the biggest shame a shounen series can face. I like the chimera ant arc, because its when Gon goes spoiler and Pitou gets spoiler. Not to mention Gon and Killua get in to an argument. The suffocating atmosphere of how endangered everyone feels when they approach a certain staircase, that is like, hell is on top of that staircase and abandon all hope, ye who climb up here. Love that atmosphere. My problem with Gintama was less about it being a parody and more about the way they handled some of the jokes and comedic moments. But I'll admit I'm a little biased since from what I remember Gintama was a parody that directly referenced specific properties, which means if you don't get those references, the joke won't land for you. I prefer parodies where they stick to poking fun at the cliches and tropes in one specific type entertainment instead. As for the chimera ant arc, my main gripe with it is that it spent way too much time on characters I didn't find that interesting. So again..just my own personal bias. Also I remember a part when they completely overused the narrator...I swear that guy was doing a complete play by play on exactly what was happening as if the viewer couldn't see it for themselves...That part got really annoying.. |
Hrybami said: ccbestgirl said: It's called the best arc for a reason. First of all that ending is one of the best arc endings, and I've never seen such wonderful character development elsewhere. The only reason why you call it boring is because it was long, but it couldn't have ended better. Most people are actually going to rate an anime with a really awesome ending higher than an anime with amazing and engaging initial episodes, but a terrible ending. It is not called anything. That is just your opinion all along. Yeah and thousands if not millions of people have this opinion |
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petran79 said: Ryuk9428 said: I thought Hellsing Ultimate was a very mediocre anime with no substance. I'm not really sure why it has such a high rating on MAL. I even found the older TV series by Gonzo better and more original than the OVA, I just wanted to watch the mindfuck Victoria Seras had to go through, that manga scene was intense and the OVA nailed it. Rest not as much. YossaRedMage said: So many of these posts aren't really very good discussion material. Just really badly worded opinions with very little depth of thought put in to them. Hell, half of the comments are just "I didn't like x show", "x show was garbage", or "x show was bad because I didn't like x thing about it". WHY didn't you like the show or specific thing about the show??? "It's bad because it's bad"? If you can't properly express in detail the reasons you didn't like something then I just don't care what you have to say and I don't know how you can expect anyone else to. I have something I've been eager to share and maybe get some opinions on since finishing Re:Zero season 1, but decided to post it in the anime specific forum because, while it may take longer, I can expect a greater number of - and more thought-out - replies than in this thread. I can see why you're saying that. I just felt like Hellsing Ultimate was a mindless bloodbath and it didn't appeal to me. Its not like it pretends to be anything else, the anime is very honest with you that's what its about. But the concept of vampire Nazis tearing apart everyone in sight just isn't one I could get into. For the purpose it was made for though, they certainly accomplished what they were trying to do which is why I gave it a 5. But I was too bored watching it to justify a higher rating. @Yossa I think my scale is like 1 point more generous than yours is. If I was operating on your scale it'd probably be how you feel about 4 rating animes. |
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kingdommoutenfan said: MujinTengu said: Kimetsu no Yaiba - I don't like it that all the characters looks like 14 years old kids, it could of been much better if they were around the age of 20-25 Why is age relevant to anything from this series. The vibe feels mature, but the character looks are not, doesn't feels right to me. |
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AshitaNoJonas said: Milk_is_Special said: Cowboy Bebop is shit with its only redeeming qualities are the music and the animation. Why? Just because it's an episodic anime? Yeah, maybe its because he binge watched it. Otherwise its a decent show to say at least. Ngl even I lost interest when I binge watched it. |
Ryuk9428 said: @Yossa I think my scale is like 1 point more generous than yours is. If I was operating on your scale it'd probably be how you feel about 4 rating animes. TBH I missed your post on Hellsing. Only thing I know about that show is people I hung out with when I was younger watched the abridged religiously and me, being the overly-serious cynical bastard I am, always found it massively unfunny so I really want to not like it lol! |
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Lalazee said: Why do you thnk it's gotten such a high score? If it wasn't for that it would have had at leat 8.45, at max.The chimera ant arc in HxH was the best in my opinion. It was generally interesting, intense, dark and the character development was especially great. |
Psajdak said: TheFirmSword said: Chimera Ant arc was for me garbage because with some little tweaks, it could have Leorio as one of its main characters, instead of Komugi.The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. Because, you know, Leorio IS one of the main characters. It was such a wasted chance. This is the first time I’ve heard this idea. Even with the Chimera Ant arc being my favorite, I have to admit that might have been an improvement. Komugi being blind was a big part of the relationship between the two, though. |
| >telling chimera arc was boring >even tho its generally the consensus of the general public wat are you even trying to prove here? Also, I think OreImo is generally a test of time, at first I didnt like it. But actually when I rewatched it like a couple of years back, I actually found the anime one of the best and Kuroneko besto grill |
_Ako_ said: >telling chimera arc was boring >even tho its generally the consensus of the general public Most people consider CA to be the best arc in the series. It's just that it's hit or miss tendencies lead to a really loud minority. Check any poll of HxH arcs and you will see CA ranked first. |
Polo_2137 said: I don't see the appeal of Toradora People have tried to convince me that it is one of the greatest slices of life of all time , yet when I got around to actually watching the show, instead of the supposed greatness, what I found was a rather average-ish story concentrated around a poor scary looking dude, getting mentally and physically abused, by a "tsundere" girl , twice smaller , than him. I'm not really a fan of domestic abuse and I certainly do not find it, even slightly funny , so I dropped the show. So, is there really something more to it, like many people tried to convince me? I'm not a fan of Toradora myself, but I can see why people hold it in a high standard. The anime gets it's main cast and sort of peels the layer of each character and sheds new light on them. Lot's of people really love how it explores each character's underlying motivation etc. To me however I could never get into it. Ryuji is extremely bland imo. There is a lot of silly melodrama in the story that just made it hard to watch at times. And it's way of exploring it's characters felt contrived imo. I don't think it's bad however. I gave it a 6. |
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franzdrake said: _Ako_ said: >telling chimera arc was boring >even tho its generally the consensus of the general public Most people consider CA to be the best arc in the series. It's just that it's hit or miss tendencies lead to a really loud minority. Check any poll of HxH arcs and you will see CA ranked first. I think everyone, even if you liked chimera ant arc, you'd agree that the whole shit was pretty boring. In all the shite I just remember was Gon being an absolute monster and ummmm the last fight... Other than that... ummm it was meh. I'm siding not in neither side tho, I just dont really care about HxH at tis point cause its never gonna end. |
_Ako_ said: franzdrake said: Most people consider CA to be the best arc in the series. It's just that it's hit or miss tendencies lead to a really loud minority. Check any poll of HxH arcs and you will see CA ranked first. I think everyone, even if you liked chimera ant arc, you'd agree that the whole shit was pretty boring. In all the shite I just remember was Gon being an absolute monster and ummmm the last fight... Other than that... ummm it was meh. I'm siding not in neither side tho, I just dont really care about HxH at tis point cause its never gonna end. I have the feeling a large portion of those CA arc worshippers are just following the hype and trend. They actually found the arc boring, but had to praise it anyway because everyone is doing it. |
Hrybami said: _Ako_ said: I think everyone, even if you liked chimera ant arc, you'd agree that the whole shit was pretty boring. In all the shite I just remember was Gon being an absolute monster and ummmm the last fight... Other than that... ummm it was meh. I'm siding not in neither side tho, I just dont really care about HxH at tis point cause its never gonna end. I have the feeling a large portion of those CA arc worshippers are just following the hype and trend. They actually found the arc boring, but had to praise it anyway because everyone is doing it. God I love the mentality of "because I thought it was boring therefore everyone else does." |
franzdrake said: Hrybami said: I have the feeling a large portion of those CA arc worshippers are just following the hype and trend. They actually found the arc boring, but had to praise it anyway because everyone is doing it. God I love the mentality of "because I thought it was boring therefore everyone else does." Why do you like this mentality? I don't remember ever using this mentality. I was talking from the popularity preventing negative thoughts perspective. In other word: bias. My opinion is based on how easily casual watchers may be influenced. More like how SAO is heavily hated while it is not nearly as bad as they might think. It also happens with trending show and bandwagon in general. Something getting lot of positive reception and people will join without giving second thought. And CA ant is also extremely flawed as its a topic that is contently brought up . Because of its huge popularity right now, I'm pretty convinced there is a significant amount of people who actually felt rather bored (the issue discussed right now) but the hype around the show prevented them to fully express their opinion. They meld with the mass. If the arc had a more neutral reception and the show wasn't this popular, these same people couldn't meld with the mass so they had to give their own feeling. Also you can find the arc boring and still like the final several episode and give it a 10. So I'm not especially talking about people who didn't like the arc. My point was that the popularity is bringing some bias which would result in a disproportion of the actual reception the anime should get if you isolate it from social phenomenon. |
Hrybami said: franzdrake said: God I love the mentality of "because I thought it was boring therefore everyone else does." Why do you like this mentality? I don't remember ever using this mentality. I was talking from the popularity preventing negative thoughts perspective. In other word: bias. My opinion is based on how easily casual watchers may be influenced. More like how SAO is heavily hated while it is not nearly as bad as they might think. It also happens with trending show and bandwagon in general. Something getting lot of positive reception and people will join without giving second thought. And CA ant is also extremely flawed as its a topic that is contently brought up . Because of its huge popularity right now, I'm pretty convinced there is a significant amount of people who actually felt rather bored (the issue discussed right now) but the hype around the show prevented them to fully express their opinion. They meld with the mass. If the arc had a more neutral reception and the show wasn't this popular, these same people couldn't meld with the mass so they had to give their own feeling. Also you can find the arc boring and still like the final several episode and give it a 10. So I'm not especially talking about people who didn't like the arc. My point was that the popularity is bringing some bias which would result in a disproportion of the actual reception the anime should get if you isolate it from social phenomenon. I guess my comment was better suited towards @_Ako_ 's comment. You do bring up a very good point. I personally don't find the CA arc to be as flawed as lots of people make it to be. But your comment on how the mass opinion influences individual watchers is a very real problem. Too often we see people make list that would be seen as "smart" tastes rather than ones personal tastes. I can even see it in myself sometimes. For example a while ago I watched one episode of SAO with this negative mindset formed from the community's constant bashing. I dropped it there. Yet looking back now that episode was fairly decent as a starter and had even better first episode hook than some of my favorites. I don't know if I want to continue it because this negative filter will likely prevent me from accurately assessing how good I think the show is. |
franzdrake said: Hrybami said: Why do you like this mentality? I don't remember ever using this mentality. I was talking from the popularity preventing negative thoughts perspective. In other word: bias. My opinion is based on how easily casual watchers may be influenced. More like how SAO is heavily hated while it is not nearly as bad as they might think. It also happens with trending show and bandwagon in general. Something getting lot of positive reception and people will join without giving second thought. And CA ant is also extremely flawed as its a topic that is contently brought up . Because of its huge popularity right now, I'm pretty convinced there is a significant amount of people who actually felt rather bored (the issue discussed right now) but the hype around the show prevented them to fully express their opinion. They meld with the mass. If the arc had a more neutral reception and the show wasn't this popular, these same people couldn't meld with the mass so they had to give their own feeling. Also you can find the arc boring and still like the final several episode and give it a 10. So I'm not especially talking about people who didn't like the arc. My point was that the popularity is bringing some bias which would result in a disproportion of the actual reception the anime should get if you isolate it from social phenomenon. I guess my comment was better suited towards @_Ako_ 's comment. You do bring up a very good point. I personally don't find the CA arc to be as flawed as lots of people make it to be. But your comment on how the mass opinion influences individual watchers is a very real problem. Too often we see people make list that would be seen as "smart" tastes rather than ones personal tastes. I can even see it in myself sometimes. For example a while ago I watched one episode of SAO with this negative mindset formed from the community's constant bashing. I dropped it there. Yet looking back now that episode was fairly decent as a starter and had even better first episode hook than some of my favorites. I don't know if I want to continue it because this negative filter will likely prevent me from accurately assessing how good I think the show is. Yes and I'm sure I'm guilty of this myself. There might be some shows I rated higher than I should have because of the reception the show got. I'm thinking about Monster or SEL. In general, a show that is considered smart. I think I hesitated between 7 and 8, but since they are highly regarded I pushed these score to 8. Same for some shows I rated lower for similar reasons. I also watched Kami no Tou this morning being aware of the negativity it is currently receiving so it might bias me in how I watch the show. I was actually surprised how this show is watchable and enjoyed it anyway, but I guess my overall perception of the show is still a bit altered. |
Daniel_Naumov said: What about Boku no Hero Academia? Most characters there are children and teenagers. Which is justified by the fact that it is a series about a superhuman society, and every society consists of mentors and students, of adults and children. With many of them enlisting in hero-courses, they end up licensed heroes at the age of 20, fighting the battles as their parents once did and their children might as well fight in the future. It doesn't gives the same vibe to me, My Hero Academy's main characters as kids doesn't concern me as much as Demon Slayer Characters does. |
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