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Apr 4, 2020 9:00 PM
#1
The general ratings has no value most of the time, because people just use the 7-10 rating system, so I suggest you add elitist ratings besides the general ratings. Edit: I like how people are extremely supportive/discouraging of this suggestion, I honestly think that this will be a hilarious feature, I guess you don't want to see the ratings by highly opinionated people, because you know to your show will be shitted on a lot. Edit 2: For the people who doesn't understand the concept/suggestion I'll explain, Popular shows has over inflated ratings, and for me, I will only enjoy something that is fairly popular 1/3 of the time, by adding the Elitist ratings, we will be shown a different perspective, and the real quality of show will be magnified, because of the more competent rating system. Edit 3: Proposed requirements for giving "Elitist ratings". 1.Good anime knowledge 2.Knows how to actually use the rating system 3:Over 500 completed anime/80 days. 4:Can explain why they like their favs |
2shizukasensei88Apr 8, 2020 8:32 PM
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Apr 4, 2020 9:06 PM
#2
no need. we don't need that type of divide. |
Apr 4, 2020 9:46 PM
#3
bad idea... we don't need more ways to polarize the anime community further into "elitists" and "casuals" |
Here we go again... |
Apr 4, 2020 10:16 PM
#4
but then "Casuals" would vote against the "Elitist" consensus out of contempt while the "Elitist" would do the same the other way around. Like, no one wants to be called "Casual". |
heh. |
Apr 4, 2020 10:47 PM
#5
just remove 2-9, its either legend of the galactic heroes or its shit |
Apr 4, 2020 10:54 PM
#6
Mayuka said: no need. we don't need that type of divide. EddyFiend said: bad idea... we don't need more ways to polarize the anime community further into "elitists" and "casuals" Look at the Top 100 Anime in Mal, and tell me that again |
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Apr 4, 2020 11:27 PM
#7
2shizukasensei88 said: i dont care what the top 100 is. i just watch anime i like and enjoy them. i don't care what other people score higher. the only change i would make is that sequels should be excluded from top list, like gintama.Mayuka said: no need. we don't need that type of divide. EddyFiend said: bad idea... we don't need more ways to polarize the anime community further into "elitists" and "casuals" Look at the Top 100 Anime in Mal, and tell me that again |
Apr 5, 2020 2:05 AM
#8
Apr 5, 2020 2:07 AM
#9
How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? |
Apr 5, 2020 4:14 AM
#10
Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. |
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Apr 5, 2020 4:16 AM
#11
2shizukasensei88 said: So far I’m liking this idea, let’s make this shit happen😤Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. |
Apr 5, 2020 4:20 AM
#12
Monochrosanity said: 2shizukasensei88 said: So far I’m liking this idea, let’s make this shit happen😤Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. Or probably the mods can decide, because they know all of the Elitist that is active. |
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Apr 5, 2020 5:25 AM
#13
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1823838 "Certified Critic" Program v2 More or less a year Ago, I made a thread here suggesting a new role and having two scores instead of one to diminish the impact of review bombing (probably caused by the Pingu situation). You can read more about it here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1761509 Now I come here with a Revised version of the Idea. The gist of it is still the Same: Afloo said: this Could be Fixed by having 2 scores, The Community Scores (Same as the Mean Score we have Right now) and the Certified Critic Score (CC Score for Short). Both scores would be Calculated the Same way, just that the CC score would be calculated using only certain apporved user's Reviews. FAQ: 1.- How would this affect the TOP ANIME?I have two ideas. Either we only take CC scores into account for the Top Anime ranking (Or atleast for the Top 50) or we have two Top Anime lists, one for User Ratings and Another one for CC ratings. This done to have a definitive top 50 that is not as prone to review bombing as the one we have now and one that works the same as the one we have now. 2.- Who would choose the Certified Critics? The MAL admins just like with the Other roles like Forum Moderators and Review Moderators. 3.- Could you apply to be a Certified Critic? You could aplly but you would need to meet a Specific Criteria. 4.- What would that Criteria Be? I won't get too into this one since that Is where my Original idea kind off fell off but here are some Ideas for what the Requirements could be: -Have a lot of free time -Be over 18 -Be willing to wirte reviews about atleast 10 shows a season -Have good writing skills Among others. 5.- Would Review Mods become CCs? I think they would still be a different role but their score would also count to the CC mean score that would be used for the ranking. Other threads: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1823569 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1761509 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1447153 You might also find other examples, if you actually try. Long story short, what you are suggesting, has been already suggested many times. If you want to get ‘any attention from the moderators and administrators’, I would highly recommend you to edit your thread, I gave you more than enough examples of good suggestions that are very similar to what you are trying to suggest. If not, it cannot be helped, it is up to you. |
Apr 5, 2020 5:38 AM
#14
Grusomhed_D said: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1823838 "Certified Critic" Program v2 More or less a year Ago, I made a thread here suggesting a new role and having two scores instead of one to diminish the impact of review bombing (probably caused by the Pingu situation). You can read more about it here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1761509 Now I come here with a Revised version of the Idea. The gist of it is still the Same: Afloo said: this Could be Fixed by having 2 scores, The Community Scores (Same as the Mean Score we have Right now) and the Certified Critic Score (CC Score for Short). Both scores would be Calculated the Same way, just that the CC score would be calculated using only certain apporved user's Reviews. FAQ: 1.- How would this affect the TOP ANIME?I have two ideas. Either we only take CC scores into account for the Top Anime ranking (Or atleast for the Top 50) or we have two Top Anime lists, one for User Ratings and Another one for CC ratings. This done to have a definitive top 50 that is not as prone to review bombing as the one we have now and one that works the same as the one we have now. 2.- Who would choose the Certified Critics? The MAL admins just like with the Other roles like Forum Moderators and Review Moderators. 3.- Could you apply to be a Certified Critic? You could aplly but you would need to meet a Specific Criteria. 4.- What would that Criteria Be? I won't get too into this one since that Is where my Original idea kind off fell off but here are some Ideas for what the Requirements could be: -Have a lot of free time -Be over 18 -Be willing to wirte reviews about atleast 10 shows a season -Have good writing skills Among others. 5.- Would Review Mods become CCs? I think they would still be a different role but their score would also count to the CC mean score that would be used for the ranking. Other threads: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1823569 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1761509 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1447153 You might also find other examples, if you actually try. Long story short, what you are suggesting, has been already suggested many times. If you want to get ‘any attention from the moderators and administrators’, I would highly recommend you to edit your thread, I gave you more than enough examples of good suggestions that are very similar to what you are trying to suggest. If not, it cannot be helped, it is up to you. Well I never thought that different rating besides the general rating will be original, because other websites already has the critics ratings, the thing that I was suggesting is "Elitist Ratings". If you want something like that, you already have a club for that. https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=59197 |
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Apr 5, 2020 5:53 AM
#15
So you believe that your wording is correct and there is nothing wrong about it, is that correct? 2shizukasensei88 said: because other websites already has the critics ratings, So what? It does not mean MAL will be sued for introducing the same feature. |
Apr 5, 2020 6:01 AM
#16
My grammar sucks, I know. Grusomhed_D said: So you believe that your wording is correct and there is nothing wrong about it, is that correct? 2shizukasensei88 said: because other websites already has the critics ratings, So what? It does not mean MAL will be sued for introducing the same feature. I'm asking for the "Elitist Ratings" not "Critics Ratings" |
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Apr 5, 2020 6:04 AM
#17
Not gonna work. Who's gonna decide who's an elitist and who's not? |
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Apr 5, 2020 6:05 AM
#18
Theo1899 said: Not gonna work. Who's gonna decide who's an elitist and who's not? Watashiiiiiii........ |
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Apr 5, 2020 6:08 AM
#19
I have never said that. wording: the choice and meaning of the words used when you say or write something. the choice of the words |
Apr 5, 2020 6:10 AM
#20
2shizukasensei88 said: Theo1899 said: Not gonna work. Who's gonna decide who's an elitist and who's not? Watashiiiiiii........ Yeah bro whatever. This is stupid. |
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Apr 5, 2020 6:13 AM
#21
2shizukasensei88 said: Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. Not gonna happen.What do you have that proves you are worthy of being in a position to dictate other people's tastes?You do know that you also need to bring something to the table right? |
Apr 5, 2020 6:55 AM
#22
What makes you think that your opinion is better than other people’s? We’re all equally qualified to decide if we like something or not, there’s literally no right or wrong way to rate as long as you’re not trolling. |
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Apr 5, 2020 6:56 AM
#23
If you have a strong opinion on a series, just write a review why and people will read it :P |
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Apr 5, 2020 7:01 AM
#24
Elitist rating would help me avoid boring anime since they tend to give score inversely proportional to the enjoyment an anime provides. So I support this idea. |
Apr 5, 2020 7:43 AM
#25
Missaliensan said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. Not gonna happen.What do you have that proves you are worthy of being in a position to dictate other people's tastes?You do know that you also need to bring something to the table right? rat_priest said: What makes you think that your opinion is better than other people’s? We’re all equally qualified to decide if we like something or not, there’s literally no right or wrong way to rate as long as you’re not trolling. I don't have a boring taste, unlike you two. rat_priest said: If you have a strong opinion on a series, just write a review why and people will read it :P I'm occasionally writing reviews. |
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Apr 5, 2020 7:44 AM
#26
Hrybami said: Elitist rating would help me avoid boring anime since they tend to give score inversely proportional to the enjoyment an anime provides. So I support this idea. This basically what I am trying to get out of this |
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Apr 5, 2020 7:48 AM
#27
2shizukasensei88 said: Missaliensan said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. Not gonna happen.What do you have that proves you are worthy of being in a position to dictate other people's tastes?You do know that you also need to bring something to the table right? rat_priest said: What makes you think that your opinion is better than other people’s? We’re all equally qualified to decide if we like something or not, there’s literally no right or wrong way to rate as long as you’re not trolling. I don't have a boring taste, unlike you two. You haven't even answered my question.What about you? |
Apr 5, 2020 7:59 AM
#28
Missaliensan said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Missaliensan said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Monochrosanity said: How would you determine which scores should be counted as elitist ratings and which are casual ratings? Council of the Elitist. I will pick people who's gonna be in the council , and they will determine whose worthy of getting the title of being an Elitist. Not gonna happen.What do you have that proves you are worthy of being in a position to dictate other people's tastes?You do know that you also need to bring something to the table right? rat_priest said: What makes you think that your opinion is better than other people’s? We’re all equally qualified to decide if we like something or not, there’s literally no right or wrong way to rate as long as you’re not trolling. I don't have a boring taste, unlike you two. You haven't even answered my question.What about you? Some people in MAL who either has all objectively and unshittable favs or all normcore shit favs and the majority (95%+) is a mixed of those. While everything I liked is a hotspot for criticisms. I haven't seen more than a handful of people, who has more unique or on par in the diversity of favs compared to me. Tldr: I have an interesting taste, because I don't use other people's metrics of what to like. |
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Apr 5, 2020 4:16 PM
#30
2shizukasensei88 said: My grammar sucks, I know. Grusomhed_D said: So you believe that your wording is correct and there is nothing wrong about it, is that correct? 2shizukasensei88 said: because other websites already has the critics ratings, So what? It does not mean MAL will be sued for introducing the same feature. I'm asking for the "Elitist Ratings" not "Critics Ratings" That's because you're not a critic. You're decisively uncritical I'd say even in your reviews... |
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Apr 5, 2020 11:01 PM
#31
2shizukasensei88 said: The general ratings has no value most of the time, because people just use the 7-10 rating system, so I suggest you add elitist ratings besides the general ratings. hahaha it would be cool |
Apr 6, 2020 2:00 AM
#32
Apr 6, 2020 5:25 AM
#33
i thought people like you died years ago. "elitist ratings" imagine thinking the way you score a show is more important than other peoples score. mental illness. |
Apr 6, 2020 6:01 AM
#34
-MEHMET- said: It's not full of elitist ratings but you can check redditanimelist if you want to see the ratings of a smaller community. Anime communities in reddit is trash |
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Apr 6, 2020 6:03 AM
#35
fuckgendo said: i thought people like you died years ago. "elitist ratings" imagine thinking the way you score a show is more important than other peoples score. mental illness. I'm sorry, but your opinion is invalid due to the amount of emojis in your profile page |
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Apr 6, 2020 6:32 AM
#36
2shizukasensei88 said: fuckgendo said: i thought people like you died years ago. "elitist ratings" imagine thinking the way you score a show is more important than other peoples score. mental illness. I'm sorry, but your opinion is invalid due to the amount of emojis in your profile page KSKADJKASDKJASDKJSKA bruh it's a copypasta meme. the creators of the original song where the ones who created it anyway. not to sound like one of those guys but it's ironic lmao |
Apr 6, 2020 6:37 AM
#37
fuckgendo said: 2shizukasensei88 said: fuckgendo said: i thought people like you died years ago. "elitist ratings" imagine thinking the way you score a show is more important than other peoples score. mental illness. I'm sorry, but your opinion is invalid due to the amount of emojis in your profile page KSKADJKASDKJASDKJSKA bruh it's a copypasta meme. the creators of the original song where the ones who created it anyway. not to sound like one of those guys but it's ironic lmao Lmao bruh, I haven't watched that much anime to be autistic enough to enjoy and understand it's artistic value |
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Apr 6, 2020 7:12 AM
#38
2shizukasensei88 said: fuckgendo said: 2shizukasensei88 said: fuckgendo said: i thought people like you died years ago. "elitist ratings" imagine thinking the way you score a show is more important than other peoples score. mental illness. I'm sorry, but your opinion is invalid due to the amount of emojis in your profile page KSKADJKASDKJASDKJSKA bruh it's a copypasta meme. the creators of the original song where the ones who created it anyway. not to sound like one of those guys but it's ironic lmao Lmao bruh, I haven't watched that much anime to be autistic enough to enjoy and understand it's artistic value "artistic value" it's a song. it's not that deep. |
Apr 6, 2020 12:32 PM
#39
We actually have a rule that new suggestions can't encourage elitism, which this clearly does. I would like a new way of weighting ratings that takes rating scale into account so that people who rate on a limited scale don't have the same influence as people who rate with a more full scale, but what you're suggesting just seems to be benefiting certain users and punishing others. |
Apr 6, 2020 12:38 PM
#40
-MEHMET- said: 2shizukasensei88 said: -MEHMET- said: It's not full of elitist ratings but you can check redditanimelist if you want to see the ratings of a smaller community. Anime communities in reddit is trash "in reddit" is unnecessary in that sentence. I hope you're going to add an "are" to that sentence then... |
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Apr 6, 2020 1:29 PM
#41
it's pretty funny actually cause op thinks they're an elitist while their faves are more than horrible |
Apr 6, 2020 2:38 PM
#42
That's why MAL should switch to emoji rating system that would eliminate that problem. 1-10 is a terrible scoring system. As for the elitist ratings, no thanks many of the so called elitist are nothing more than pseudo intellectuals with no real critical thinking that hate every anime except for elitist approved ones that is why nearly all of them have virtually the same taste. The worst of them all are old anime elitist everything before 2000 good everything after sucks bonus points if they were born after 2000 smh. |
Apr 6, 2020 2:51 PM
#43
If they change 💩 for , this sounds like a reasonable suggestion. (I guess many people will hate, if their favourite anime gets too much 💩, lol). |
Apr 7, 2020 12:06 AM
#45
grotesia said: it's pretty funny actually cause op thinks they're an elitist while their faves are more than horrible Ok m8, you probably don't know the majority of them |
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Apr 7, 2020 2:20 AM
#46
-Aincrad- said: What kind of stupid thread/suggestion this is? The latest masterpiece by @2shizukasensei88 who has figured out the secret formula for bait threads around here. It seems that mentioning the word elitist in the thread title is enough to trigger this website. |
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Apr 7, 2020 2:35 AM
#47
Theo1899 said: -Aincrad- said: What kind of stupid thread/suggestion this is? The latest masterpiece by @2shizukasensei88 who has figured out the secret formula for bait threads around here. It seems that mentioning the word elitist in the thread title is enough to trigger this website. I didn't use the E-word in my last thread |
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Apr 7, 2020 4:32 AM
#48
lol people call this pointless and dumb but this seriously demonstrates the desperation of taking measures to recreate remotely proper MAL's scores. I see what you're saying but it will never work for this overcrowded crammed site. I will regard this as a desperate call rather than a bait. |
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Apr 7, 2020 4:39 AM
#49
If you want 1-10 scale correspondence of a 7-10 scale score, just multiply the score by 3 and subtract 20. Voila. |
Apr 7, 2020 4:41 AM
#50
Preachee said: lol people call this pointless and dumb but this seriously demonstrates the desperation of taking measures to recreate remotely proper MAL's scores. I see what you're saying but it will never work for this overcrowded crammed site. I will regard this as a desperate call rather than a bait. You're actually right, this is a desperate attempt rather than a bait, but it will work if Mal let's it happen, because only selected people will be allowed to give "Elitist Rantings", people who are seasoned veterans in watching anime, not those casuals who over inflate ratings. |
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