| The Dutch government is discarding over a million masks that don't fit properly or have defective filters. In Spain, which has the world’s second highest official coronavirus death toll after Italy, the government said Thursday it had withdrawn 8,000 rapid testing kits delivered to authorities in Madrid, and sent back another 50,000 to the manufacturer, due to concerns about their accuracy. Officials found the tests they reviewed were only about 30% accurate. more here https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7kzae9/european-countries-are-throwing-out-rubbish-chinese-made-masks-and-coronavirus-tests "made in China" its same here in the philippines our department of health found the test kits from china is only 40% accurate lol a toss coin is more accurate but days later they revise their findings to say its accurate now lol must be Duterte ordered them to no anger China |
| It's okay Chinese state-run media is already brainwashing the population how China "helped and saved" Europe from the US bioweapon. |
| Now that's pretty racist my dood, just because they're "chinese" makes them worthless? how would those hard-working chinese making the masks feel if they heard someone say that? you should really check your privilege bro, chinas like, saving the world right now man. |
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| lol its their government and their poor quality control that should be blamed more, and i heard the chinese factory workers are treated so bad there like some even die while at work |
| and here my country (pakistan) is waiting for all the equipment to arrive from china so that we can properly start treating our corona patients (we have nothing anything and everything will come from china) we're doomed !!! |
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| Damn that it's so racist, chinese people don't deserve that, this it's Trump fault again, he caused this. [/s] |
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| Guys, listen. I just had an epiphany, it's mind-blowing. Hear me out: the chinese bio weapon comes from China (this was the most difficult part to figure out, you're welcome), so it's going to stop working next month. You can go licking door knobs again, no need to thank me for the info. |
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The Chinese embassy in Madrid said that the manufacturer of the tests, Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology, had not been officially licenced by Chinese authorities to sell medical products. Why would they sent product that not licensed by Chinese authorities? |
Gorochu said: The Chinese embassy in Madrid said that the manufacturer of the tests, Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology, had not been officially licenced by Chinese authorities to sell medical products. Why would they sent product that not licensed by Chinese authorities? This is a lie that the embassy has come up with in order to save face. You need the approval of the Chinese authorities for pretty much anything in China, nobody is ever going to let you participate in something that big without it. |
Gorochu said: The Chinese embassy in Madrid said that the manufacturer of the tests, Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology, had not been officially licenced by Chinese authorities to sell medical products. Why would they sent product that not licensed by Chinese authorities? what is the chinese government doing with their department of customs? lol |
| Imagine buying over a million of something before finding this out. China is good for making a quick buck on dumbs who pay no attention to the quality of products they buy. Also, there's no excuse to not manifacture these things in your own country, other than stupid greed because the Chinese will work for less. Lesson learned: you get what you pay for. |
Milennin said: Imagine buying over a million of something before finding this out. China is good for making a quick buck on dumbs who pay no attention to the quality of products they buy. Also, there's no excuse to not manifacture these things in your own country, other than stupid greed because the Chinese will work for less. Lesson learned: you get what you pay for. A million? try again. Orders are between hundred millions to a billion + mask per countries. That's not the kind of things that you produce in one week in your own country when you don't have the facilities yet AND that you've asked your own citizens to stay quarantined... |
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Zefyris said: Milennin said: Imagine buying over a million of something before finding this out. China is good for making a quick buck on dumbs who pay no attention to the quality of products they buy. Also, there's no excuse to not manifacture these things in your own country, other than stupid greed because the Chinese will work for less. Lesson learned: you get what you pay for. A million? try again. Orders are between hundred millions to a billion + mask per countries. That's not the kind of things that you produce in one week in your own country when you don't have the facilities yet AND that you've asked your own citizens to stay quarantined... No, that's why you keep a stockpile in case something like this happens. Not like there's an expiration date on them anyhow, and it's not as if they take massive amounts of space to store away. If you have to get the masks after the virus was confirmed and then wait 2 more months while every world leader was saying it was nothing to worry about (to stay friends with China or to not sound racist (LOL) or out of sheer ignorance), until they could no longer pretend it was nothing to worry about, you're too late and you deserve what you get. |
Milennin said: Zefyris said: A million? try again. Orders are between hundred millions to a billion + mask per countries. That's not the kind of things that you produce in one week in your own country when you don't have the facilities yet AND that you've asked your own citizens to stay quarantined... No, that's why you keep a stockpile in case something like this happens. Not like there's an expiration date on them anyhow, and it's not as if they take massive amounts of space to store away. If you have to get the masks after the virus was confirmed and then wait 2 more months while every world leader was saying it was nothing to worry about (to stay friends with China or to not sound racist (LOL) or out of sheer ignorance), until they could no longer pretend it was nothing to worry about, you're too late and you deserve what you get. There actually IS an expiry date on masks, which is 5 years for FFP2. So either you buy billions store them away and 99% of them are never used before expiry because no pandemic happen or you don't store that many and then you have to rely on countries like China to produce them when you'll need them. Before trying to teach other some lessons about how to run a country, try to take a few seconds to inform yourself (LOL). |
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| "made in china" China is living up to it's reputation. |
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| Imagine needing to rely on China for the problem they caused. |
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Zefyris said: There actually IS an expiry date on masks, which is 5 years for FFP2. So either you buy billions store them away and 99% of them are never used before expiry because no pandemic happen or you don't store that many and then you have to rely on countries like China to produce them when you'll need them. Before trying to teach other some lessons about how to run a country, try to take a few seconds to inform yourself (LOL). You don't need to store billions at once. You only need to keep a decent amount of them stocked at any time, that's it. It's the same with people who prepared for supermarkets to go empty vs the ones going panic buying at the very last second. You don't have to stockpile for years, you get enough to last you a while, then you can continue as normal for when things do go wrong. There was no excuse for any country outside of Asia to be caught unaware, unprepared by this. |
Milennin said: Zefyris said: There actually IS an expiry date on masks, which is 5 years for FFP2. So either you buy billions store them away and 99% of them are never used before expiry because no pandemic happen or you don't store that many and then you have to rely on countries like China to produce them when you'll need them. Before trying to teach other some lessons about how to run a country, try to take a few seconds to inform yourself (LOL). You don't need to store billions at once. You only need to keep a decent amount of them stocked at any time, that's it. It's the same with people who prepared for supermarkets to go empty vs the ones going panic buying at the very last second. You don't have to stockpile for years, you get enough to last you a while, then you can continue as normal for when things do go wrong. There was no excuse for any country outside of Asia to be caught unaware, unprepared by this. billions is not for year. a mask lasts only a few hours at most and there is so much cases to handle that our countries don't even have enough beds. Our country needs one BILLION of mask on top of what it already had in stock/what it can already produce and that's only for the current crisis. Clearly you don't realise how fast those masks are being used. you're here teaching lesson without knowing anything about how things work. |
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Zefyris said: billions is not for year. a mask lasts only a few hours at most and there is so much cases to handle that our countries don't even have enough beds. Our country needs one BILLION of mask on top of what it already had in stock/what it can already produce and that's only for the current crisis. Clearly you don't realise how fast those masks are being used. you're here teaching lesson without knowing anything about how things work. They need them so much they don't give a damn about manufacturing any themselves. It's not like China has a monopoly on the science to make facemasks. All I hear are excuses for not having facemasks in stock and blaming Chinese made ones for being faulty. Countries caught unprepared are to blame for this, not China. |
Milennin said: Zefyris said: billions is not for year. a mask lasts only a few hours at most and there is so much cases to handle that our countries don't even have enough beds. Our country needs one BILLION of mask on top of what it already had in stock/what it can already produce and that's only for the current crisis. Clearly you don't realise how fast those masks are being used. you're here teaching lesson without knowing anything about how things work. They need them so much they don't give a damn about manufacturing any themselves. It's not like China has a monopoly on the science to make facemasks. All I hear are excuses for not having facemasks in stock and blaming Chinese made ones for being faulty. Countries caught unprepared are to blame for this, not China. Dude you're still not getting it. My country is manufacturing more than 3 MILLIONS of them per WEEK right now. And it's nowhere near enough, we need 5 times that. They want to do it, but it's not going to happen instantly by snapping your fingers so what do you do in between? Let peoples work without masks or buy them to foreign countries, huh? |
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Milennin said: Zefyris said: billions is not for year. a mask lasts only a few hours at most and there is so much cases to handle that our countries don't even have enough beds. Our country needs one BILLION of mask on top of what it already had in stock/what it can already produce and that's only for the current crisis. Clearly you don't realise how fast those masks are being used. you're here teaching lesson without knowing anything about how things work. They need them so much they don't give a damn about manufacturing any themselves. It's not like China has a monopoly on the science to make facemasks. All I hear are excuses for not having facemasks in stock and blaming Chinese made ones for being faulty. Countries caught unprepared are to blame for this, not China. How is PRC provisioning faulty equipment for a pandemic from PRC not their fault? They are continuing to fail to do their part by hiding information and now faulty equipment; there is no point in the masks or tests if they don't work within specification. N95/FFP2 is the absolute minimum needed to filter particles the size of the virus and protect our medical facilities and personnel. Handing out bad masks with poor seals and filter material that is too wide to stop the virus are tantamount to sabotage, and is a grave issue. I agree that other nations should have taken the threat more seriously in January, but that doesn't justify your blatant PRC shilling and buck passing. How many social credits is Uncle Winnie paying you? |
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| lol and the US has intercepted masks made in China heading to both France and Germany: https://www.bccourier.com/berlins-interior-senator-speaks-of-modern-piracy/ So not sure if actually lucky or not At least, we don't have to worry about disinfectant stuff, since we have lots of chemical companies over here. Maybe, we should also ramp up medical production again instead of relying too much on China and India |
Noboru said: instead of relying too much on China and India it will get expensive if its made from Germany though |
deg said: lol its their government and their poor quality control that should be blamed more, and i heard the chinese factory workers are treated so bad there like some even die while at work then stop buying products from china if you dont support it unless you can say do you own anything made in china youre being a hypocrite because youre funding the abusive treatment |
Noboru said: lol and the US has intercepted masks made in China heading to both France and Germany: https://www.bccourier.com/berlins-interior-senator-speaks-of-modern-piracy/ So not sure if actually lucky or not At least, we don't have to worry about disinfectant stuff, since we have lots of chemical companies over here. Maybe, we should also ramp up medical production again instead of relying too much on China and India It isn't piracy if you have a letter of marque from the Crown. |
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Seijatachiiii said: deg said: lol its their government and their poor quality control that should be blamed more, and i heard the chinese factory workers are treated so bad there like some even die while at work then stop buying products from china if you dont support it unless you can say do you own anything made in china youre being a hypocrite because youre funding the abusive treatment i think you misunderstand the tyrant/authoritarian chinese government is what im hating while i know that the ordinary chinese citizens are just being brainwashed by their leaders as well as treated poorly also the whole world (not just me) cannot just suddenly boycott everything made in china since its still the worlds manufacturing hub unless rich investors start making africa and india the next manufacturing hub then we are stuck with made in china products capitalisms bad behaviors like labor exploitation and poor product/service quality can be controlled by a government that has strong regulations for those and why not pressure the tyrant/authoritarian government of china do those same is true with governments around the world that is importing products from china like they do quality control/checks of those like what this news is showing |
Noboru said: lol and the US has intercepted masks made in China heading to both France and Germany: https://www.bccourier.com/berlins-interior-senator-speaks-of-modern-piracy/ So not sure if actually lucky or not At least, we don't have to worry about disinfectant stuff, since we have lots of chemical companies over here. Maybe, we should also ramp up medical production again instead of relying too much on China and India Dodged a bullet I guess. btw the German military used to have production facilities for strategic goods such as the ones needed right know. Politicans rationalised a couple of years ago that getting rid off them would be a great way to save some money. Whilst at the same time trying to increase the military budget to meet NATO requirments. Now that is some next level stupidity right there. |
SeygneurApr 3, 2020 11:17 PM
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deg said: Yes, but safety should be more than worth the price. There are more than enough capacities for self-production. In the end, it's also everyone for themselves, so countries should have critical stuff always produced in their own countries it will get expensive if its made from Germany though @Soverign: lol, great classic hip-hop tune xD I don't get the reference with what you wrote, though @Seygneur: Possible Sounds stupid to have rationalised important stuff like that. They should have rather rationalised the advisors |
Soverign said: Noboru said: lol and the US has intercepted masks made in China heading to both France and Germany: https://www.bccourier.com/berlins-interior-senator-speaks-of-modern-piracy/ So not sure if actually lucky or not At least, we don't have to worry about disinfectant stuff, since we have lots of chemical companies over here. Maybe, we should also ramp up medical production again instead of relying too much on China and India It isn't piracy if you have a letter of marque from the Crown. if they are modern corsairs then I'm fairly disappointed by modern corsairs. Corsairs from the old time were way cooler :(. |
ZefyrisApr 4, 2020 5:19 AM
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| Chinese can keep their "solidarity" for themself if this is the result. Better for our medics don't risk than send them at work with fake masks and get infected. Italy converted many industries to produce masks, better if we use our own which now are even washable and reusable. Too bad bureaucracy always have to stick its nose even now. 🤦♂️ |
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| @Noboru It is simple. Britain broke from the EU and Queen Elizabeth. Pardon me. God save the Queen! Issued US privateers a letter of marque under her Royal authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque |
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Soverign said: Ah okay, thanks. I never knew that people actually wrote letters of that xDIt is simple. Britain broke from the EU and Queen Elizabeth. Pardon me. God save the Queen! Issued US privateers a letter of marque under her Royal authority. |
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