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Mar 18, 2020 10:09 AM
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We got the specs and info revealed for the PS5 today:



https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-playstation-5-specs-and-tech-that-deliver-sonys-next-gen-vision

Some other interesting notes:

Advantages of the PS5:

- Faster load
- No load screens
- Ultra High-Speed Streaming
- De-duplicate game data
- No long patch installs

- SD is 825GB and can load 5.5GB in a second (100 times faster I/O than PS4; XSX is 1TB and loads 2.4GB raw). Storage can be expanded with an external HDD for PS4 titles; PS5 titles require certified SSDs

- PS5 will support "the top 100 PS4 games" at launch.

Price not revealed yet or release date.

More sources
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1240318258965774339
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1240318258965774339

Curious about what people think about this.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:37 AM
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I'll wait since it doesn't have native or digital PS2 backwards compatibility. The reveal was really nice if you are an expert in for example hardware engineering, if not, most of the reveal will go over your head.


Mar 18, 2020 11:04 AM
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what a huge jump from PS4 specs. I think it will make development easier on these next gen consoles

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Mar 18, 2020 11:27 AM
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It's says "PS5 titles require certified SSDs." Does this mean that Sony is making proprietary SSDs specifically for this console? If they're priced like the PS Vita memory cards, it's not gonna be good, because these SSDs will likely fail before the PS5 goes out of production. I know that modern SSDs last longer, but it's still not good enough.

Mar 18, 2020 11:28 AM
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I mean let's be real, the differences in specs are going to be pretty minute for the average customer, apart from the loading times. Plus XSX's storage space I think doesn't account for the OS so it's probably not gonna be exactly 1tb

Overall though, XSX has higher performance, but you're not really gonna notice all that much difference unless you're playing a highly demanding game in 4K (and it won't be the biggest of differences I assume either). It's like PS5 is an RTX 2080 and XSX is a 2080ti, most people won't notice a huge difference apart from enthusiasts

At the end of the day though, price + launch titles are what's gonna dictate the underlying success of both systems. Some people though acting like these specs signal the end of Sony lolol
Mar 18, 2020 11:40 AM
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Well said Short_Circut!

I'm eager to see what lineup Sony has planned. Rumor is a Silent Hill remake game and I wouldn't be surprised if Horizon Zero Dawn 2 will be a launch title.
Mar 18, 2020 11:56 AM
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Yeah I think the only hype for me personally if they have a new controller design, otherwise price is probably not right lol because ps4 pro is there and not even google stadia can beat.
Mar 18, 2020 12:18 PM
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- PS5 will support "the top 100 PS4 games" at launch.

This is so much less than I expected. Lame.

Mar 18, 2020 12:24 PM
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Soooo... Backwards compatibility for PS1, 2, 3 and 4 when?!

Mar 18, 2020 1:39 PM
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I'm good.
More "power" is the last thing I asked for. Not gonna pay through the nose for something I don't need.



Edit: Now that I think about it, maybe I should just get a Switch instead...
Mar 18, 2020 2:33 PM

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Xbox one x series is obviously the more powerful console excluding speed, but at the end of the day the exclusives and price will make or break these two console.

Though that backward compatibility for ps5 doesn't sound well, while for the xbox series x features to improve even older game overall visual and full backwards compatibility (If I'm correct) is a 1+ for Microsoft.
Mar 18, 2020 2:35 PM

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this should be more cheaper than the new Xbox since the specs is lower than the new Xbox
Mar 18, 2020 2:53 PM

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How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.


I would be suprised if it cost anything less than 500 dollars. 600 dollar is possible.

Xbox series X GPU is very close to RTX 2080 Ti power
But PC will probably have new GPU generation on holiday 2020 when xbox series X comes out. High-end PC will always be ahead of console
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deg said:
this should be more cheaper than the new Xbox since the specs is lower than the new Xbox

you're also paying for software and services. Their livestream earlier on talked about the future of advanced 3D audio and their project to develop superior implementations of it for most of the stream.

Microsoft just need to make killer exclusives for the Xbox and the scales will tip tremendously
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thepath said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.


I would be suprised if it cost anything less than 500 dollars. 600 dollar is possible.

Xbox series X GPU is very close to RTX 2080 Ti power
But PC will probably have new GPU generation on holiday 2020 when xbox series X comes out. High-end PC will always be ahead of console

that is impossible. 2080 ti is like 1300 or so. They are not going to sell a 1500$ console let alone 1000$
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.

PS4 doesn't even have a commercial pc gpu equivalent. these are custom apus that perform well specifically for the software they're built to run
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Korishi said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.

PS4 doesn't even have a commercial pc gpu equivalent. these are custom apus that perform well specifically for the software they're built to run

Yes I know they aren't actual 2080 ti's but they still aren't gonna be 100$ to make.
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thepath said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
How much is this and the xbox going to cost? Also what is the gpu equal to? 1080? 2080 is to expensive let alone a 2080 ti.


I would be suprised if it cost anything less than 500 dollars. 600 dollar is possible.

Xbox series X GPU is very close to RTX 2080 Ti power
But PC will probably have new GPU generation on holiday 2020 when xbox series X comes out. High-end PC will always be ahead of console

I think Nvidia's 3000 series was rumoured to be announced around June but idk how much recent corona issues would've impacted that


Stark700 said:
Well said Short_Circut!

I'm eager to see what lineup Sony has planned. Rumor is a Silent Hill remake game and I wouldn't be surprised if Horizon Zero Dawn 2 will be a launch title.

correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that rumour meant to be taken with a barrel of salt lol? Like there was also rumours that Metal Gear Solid and Castlevania series' were gonna be bought by Sony as well.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
Korishi said:

PS4 doesn't even have a commercial pc gpu equivalent. these are custom apus that perform well specifically for the software they're built to run

Yes I know they aren't actual 2080 ti's but they still aren't gonna be 100$ to make.

yeah of course not sheesh, ps4's apu was about $100 to make
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Does this mean the system won't be loud as fuck when playing high intensive games?
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After reading all posts, here are my thoughts in points:

1. PS5 Specs: I honestly not interested in PS5 at all. My target is a PS5 Pro. It's not confirmed yet. There is no official news about it.

2. Backward Compatibility: It appears that SONY has no intention/interest of making all possible games from PS1 to PS4 available on PS5. Only PS4 games.

3. PS5 Supporting Top 100 Games of PS4: What the fuck is that? FIFAGGOT? PUBG? Faggotnite? MGS5? Horizon Zero Dawn? Need For Scam? Pro Evolution Soccer? Call of Dick?...... Whatever. This is stupid dump shit.

4. Difference in Visuals and Performance:

ArabianLuffy: Hey!
SONY: What?
ArabianLuffy: Is MGS5 gonna look better on PS5?
SONY: It's up to the developers.
ArabianLuffy: That means no.
SONY: Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn and God of Wack will look better on PS5.
ArabianLuffy: That's because it's your games. What about Resident Evil 2 and Devil May Cry 5?
SONY: Like I said, it's up to the developers.
ArabianLuffy: Yeah, whatever.
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
Now that I think about it, maybe I should just get a Switch instead...

It's not a bad idea. I might pick up more indie games on the Switch since I barely touch them on Steam.

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I've lost interest in playstation in this generation since they only have two exclusives I care about (persona and bloodborne) but here are my thoughts on this announcement.

>the top 100 PS4 games
That's weird. Does that mean they won't run natively even though the PS5 architecture is so similar to PS4? Now that the PS5 is more powerful will we finally get proper PS3 emulation?

>certified SSD
I hope it won't be some proprietary overpriced crap like the vita

>no long patch installs
That's cool but with my third world connection patches will still take too long

Curently I have no interest in either console but they haven't announced any games yet to hype me up. Xbox is more exciting to me because I never owned an xbox and microsoft's backwards compatibility keeps getting better and better so I can use one machine to play all generations of xbox.
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Amazing! I really enjoyed it, and I am not sarcastic. These are all big improvements that will help Sony win a new console war.

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Ezekiel said:
- PS5 will support "the top 100 PS4 games" at launch.

This is so much less than I expected. Lame.

I guess I'll get a PS4 eventually.
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I will only be interested if it allows PS4 games to run at 60fps.
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Looks like Sony wasn't kidding about its struggle to keep the price down. Those specs are a massive jump from PS5's. Won't be surprised if it launches at nearly four digits.
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@Skittles: $450.0?

You were counting the decimal point, right? There is no way that any console will cost in the ballpark of $1,000.

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@Skittles: $450.0?

You were counting the decimal point, right? There is no way that any console will cost in the ballpark of $1,000.

Sorry, my brain was still thinking in Australian Dollars lol.

450 dollars seems a bit too cheap though when the launching price for the PS4 was $399. It might probably be $500.
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I don't know why anyone would get the Xbox. They don't have exclusives anymore. Pretty much all their games are on PC now.
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I don't know why anyone would get the Xbox. They don't have exclusives anymore. Pretty much all their games are on PC now.


Well, the new Xbox will be fully backwards compatible, from launch, all the way to the original. That's a shit ton of good games right there.

Not why I'll be buying one though.
I'll get a "Series X" -- Hopefully a Series S, since I don't wanna pay through the freaking nose for "muh powa" -- because I only want one system to act as my entire entertainment center, and the Xbox is much better at that than the PlayStation.

I could also upgrade my computer and use that -- it's not like I don't know how to build and maintain a PC -- but I can't be arsed anymore.
That and I want to continue using Linux (Fedora) for at least the next five years. It's just better. Not at gaming, obviously (even with Proton), but at everything else... not even a contest. I won't even dual-boot, tbh.

PS: HiDive support for PlayStation when? It's fucking 2020...
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There's an update yesterday...

"A quick update on backward compatibility – With all of the amazing games in PS4’s catalog, we’ve devoted significant efforts to enable our fans to play their favorites on PS5. We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5."

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/

So it's much much more than the "top 100" PS4 games.
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
PsychoticDave said:
I don't know why anyone would get the Xbox. They don't have exclusives anymore. Pretty much all their games are on PC now.


Well, the new Xbox will be fully backwards compatible, from launch, all the way to the original. That's a shit ton of good games right there.

Not why I'll be buying one though.
I'll get a "Series X" -- Hopefully a Series S, since I don't wanna pay through the freaking nose for "muh powa" -- because I only want one system to act as my entire entertainment center, and the Xbox is much better at that than the PlayStation.

I could also upgrade my computer and use that -- it's not like I don't know how to build and maintain a PC -- but I can't be arsed anymore.
That and I want to continue using Linux (Fedora) for at least the next five years. It's just better. Not at gaming, obviously (even with Proton), but at everything else... not even a contest. I won't even dual-boot, tbh.

PS: HiDive support for PlayStation when? It's fucking 2020...

Xbox having backwards compatibility doesn't help when you can just get an emulator for PC for free compared to buying an extra expensive game that isn't being made anymore. Not to mention PlayStation has PlayStation Now which has over 2000 games, plenty of which are the classics from the PS3 / PS2 / PS1.

Xbox isn't a better entertainment system. Tbh, Switch would be best for that if it supported 4K and despite that I still believe it is. Other than Switch's portability they're all the same entertainment system-wise.

The best thing is to have a Switch and a PC because PlayStation and Xbox are both losing their exclusives. Xbox is just losing basically all of its exclusives where-as PlayStation still has plenty of amazing exclusives not yet on PC. And Switch is basically pure exclusives.


For an entertainment system, just build a $500~ PC. You can upgrade it at will and off top it will be better for watching TV. Plus I highly advocate piracy so you can't go wrong. Almost everything is free on PC if you torrent long enough.
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Skittles said:
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@Skittles: $450.0?

You were counting the decimal point, right? There is no way that any console will cost in the ballpark of $1,000.

Sorry, my brain was still thinking in Australian Dollars lol.

In that case, that wouldn't be too farfetched.

Still, $500 (USD) will most likely be the upper limit on how much both boxes will cost. Console exclusives will still be a thing in order to subsidize the R&D and manufacturing costs until Sony and Microsoft either break even or are profiting from their console sales, as usual. And I'm sure that Sony still has Vietnam flashbacks from trying to sell the PS3 for $600.

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i will only be interested if they support my anime like games, and only mildly.
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i will only be interested if they support my anime like games, and only mildly.


Then don't buy it. Sony already has a policy that censors games. Which is basically all anime games. If the game is on switch it should be uncensored unless the dev completely changed it before.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
AnimeFreak-San said:
i will only be interested if they support my anime like games, and only mildly.


Then don't buy it. Sony already has a policy that censors games. Which is basically all anime games. If the game is on switch it should be uncensored unless the dev completely changed it before.

Rest in paradise, Senran Kagura.

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Kayle_x_Morgana said:


Then don't buy it. Sony already has a policy that censors games. Which is basically all anime games. If the game is on switch it should be uncensored unless the dev completely changed it before.

Rest in paradise, Senran Kagura.


Yeah good ol California sony usa. The least they could do is try NOT to ruin japan of the last few good places left.
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I'm not gonna get a PS5 after Sony's ridiculous censorship spree of anime games.
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pc players getting Sony exclusives a year later will be very tempted to invest in a current gen console I assure you
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pc players getting Sony exclusives a year later will be very tempted to invest in a current gen console I assure you

Yeah, like a Switch so that the games aren't going on PC at all in the near future.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
AnimeFreak-San said:
i will only be interested if they support my anime like games, and only mildly.


Then don't buy it. Sony already has a policy that censors games. Which is basically all anime games. If the game is on switch it should be uncensored unless the dev completely changed it before.


i dont mind playing them censored, the gameplay is still the same, and I dont have a nice gaming pc, so if ps5 doesnt support these games, in that I can at least play them on the console, (only top 100 for some reason), theres no reason for me to buy a ps5. i like the anime games more than the popular games people usually play.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:


Then don't buy it. Sony already has a policy that censors games. Which is basically all anime games. If the game is on switch it should be uncensored unless the dev completely changed it before.


i dont mind playing them censored, the gameplay is still the same, and I dont have a nice gaming pc, so if ps5 doesnt support these games, in that I can at least play them on the console, (only top 100 for some reason), theres no reason for me to buy a ps5. i like the anime games more than the popular games people usually play.
then congrats on being the reason why western shit sucks. If you aren't against it, you are for it.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
AnimeFreak-San said:


i dont mind playing them censored, the gameplay is still the same, and I dont have a nice gaming pc, so if ps5 doesnt support these games, in that I can at least play them on the console, (only top 100 for some reason), theres no reason for me to buy a ps5. i like the anime games more than the popular games people usually play.
then congrats on being the reason why western shit sucks. If you aren't against it, you are for it.


im not for it i just dont mind it...there are ways to play it uncensored anyways so your arguement makes no sense
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
AnimeFreak-San said:


i dont mind playing them censored, the gameplay is still the same, and I dont have a nice gaming pc, so if ps5 doesnt support these games, in that I can at least play them on the console, (only top 100 for some reason), theres no reason for me to buy a ps5. i like the anime games more than the popular games people usually play.
then congrats on being the reason why western shit sucks. If you aren't against it, you are for it.

What about the people who, to use Senran Kagura for example, plays the games on PC to avoid Sony's censorship, but doesn't innitiate Intimacy Mode with any of the girls?

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then congrats on being the reason why western shit sucks. If you aren't against it, you are for it.


im not for it i just dont mind it...there are ways to play it uncensored anyways so your arguement makes no sense


Imagine basing your purchases on whether or not you can see anime girls naked or not... I'm sure Sony doesn't mind if you don't buy it or if you do, you're not the target demographic they're trying to appeal to and I'm sure that audience is small enough to not care for it.
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Playstation 5 stream reveal next Thursday!

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