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https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanders-is-the-front-runner-after-new-hampshire-and-a-contested-convention-has-become-more-likely/amp/

FEEL THE BERN motherfuckers!

The MSM has done EVERYTHING possible to try to discredit Bernie, to smear him, to try to make him everything he isn’t!

Why?

Because the MSM is deadly SCARED of Bernie and his progressive policies!

The Establishment and Wall Street are shitting their pants at the fact that a man that will NOT accept their BRIBES and BLOOD MONEY can actually become the leader of this country and fundamentally CHANGE the bullshit RIGGED games they have profited for so long!

Bernie is the man of the people, and he’s coming for the Rich!

And the working and middle class couldn’t be happier!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/nevada/

^here are the polls for the Next Primary (Nevada)...

As you can see, Bernie is in the LEAD!

GO Bernie GO!

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not invested in Bernie 2020 but I hope the DNC is seething and pooping themselves



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I can always sense that —ALEX— made certain threads just by looking at the titles.
 
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I can always sense that —ALEX— made certain threads just by looking at the titles.


The capitalisations give it away.

OT: Right. But there's another struggle up ahead isn't there? Hopefully the just will emerge victorious. Electability-wise as well Bernie is the most sensible choice given the existence of Independent voters.

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OT: Right. But there's another struggle up ahead isn't there? Hopefully the just will emerge victorious. Electability-wise as well Bernie is the most sensible choice given the existence of Independent voters.

Yes.

This will be a hard fight no matter what....the DNC and the Establishment absolutely DO NOT want Bernie to win.

At this point they will want anyone else to win.

For example look at how much positive coverage Amy fucking Kloubachar got last night!

They’re acting like coming in 3rd place was BETTER than winning!

It’s insane how much they dislike Bernie.

Ironically tho...all that negative coverage only makes Bernie Stronger because his base understands that these people are hell bent on not allowing a TRUE progressive liberal into the White House.

By no means will Bernie’s path to D.C be easy.
 
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I've loved Bernie since his first presidential campaign in 2015.




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--ALEX-- said:
Orhunaa said:
OT: Right. But there's another struggle up ahead isn't there? Hopefully the just will emerge victorious. Electability-wise as well Bernie is the most sensible choice given the existence of Independent voters.

Yes.

This will be a hard fight no matter what....the DNC and the Establishment absolutely DO NOT want Bernie to win.

At this point they will want anyone else to win.

For example look at how much positive coverage Amy fucking Kloubachar got last night!

They’re acting like coming in 3rd place was BETTER than winning!

It’s insane how much they dislike Bernie.

Ironically tho...all that negative coverage only makes Bernie Stronger because his base understands that these people are hell bent on not allowing a TRUE progressive liberal into the White House.

By no means will Bernie’s path to D.C be easy.

Eh, to be fair Klobuchar outperformed expectations quite a bit.

If we wanna win this primary we can't repeat what we did in 2016, where progressive media pushed the false narrative that Bernie was running away with it

Bernie underperformed in New Hampshire and he has to overperform in Nevada if he wants to win it
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Wakai- said:
--ALEX-- said:

Yes.

This will be a hard fight no matter what....the DNC and the Establishment absolutely DO NOT want Bernie to win.

At this point they will want anyone else to win.

For example look at how much positive coverage Amy fucking Kloubachar got last night!

They’re acting like coming in 3rd place was BETTER than winning!

It’s insane how much they dislike Bernie.

Ironically tho...all that negative coverage only makes Bernie Stronger because his base understands that these people are hell bent on not allowing a TRUE progressive liberal into the White House.

By no means will Bernie’s path to D.C be easy.

Eh, to be fair Klobuchar outperformed expectations quite a bit.

If we wanna win this primary we can't repeat what we did in 2016, where progressive media pushed the false narrative that Bernie was running away with it

Bernie underperformed in New Hampshire and he has to overperform in Nevada if he wants to win it

Fair enough.

Those are valid points.

I agree that people can’t act like he’s going to run away with it...this will be a tough battle and no way will Bernie win every state.

I do think this is a good start tho...and remember come Super Tuesday, if he wins California he will be in EXCELLENT shape.
 
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--ALEX-- said:
Orhunaa said:
OT: Right. But there's another struggle up ahead isn't there? Hopefully the just will emerge victorious. Electability-wise as well Bernie is the most sensible choice given the existence of Independent voters.

Yes.

This will be a hard fight no matter what....the DNC and the Establishment absolutely DO NOT want Bernie to win.

At this point they will want anyone else to win.

For example look at how much positive coverage Amy fucking Kloubachar got last night!

They’re acting like coming in 3rd place was BETTER than winning!

It’s insane how much they dislike Bernie.

Ironically tho...all that negative coverage only makes Bernie Stronger because his base understands that these people are hell bent on not allowing a TRUE progressive liberal into the White House.

By no means will Bernie’s path to D.C be easy.


The suppression by the corrupt status quo upholders is as good of an endorsement as it gets for the politically literate. But I'm afraid the average voter may not be very good at deducing this. In any case I feel like this will indeed be different than 2016, Bernie is more relevant than ever, people are making calls by the dozens, pro- memes are everywhere etc.

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--ALEX-- said:
Wakai- said:

Eh, to be fair Klobuchar outperformed expectations quite a bit.

If we wanna win this primary we can't repeat what we did in 2016, where progressive media pushed the false narrative that Bernie was running away with it

Bernie underperformed in New Hampshire and he has to overperform in Nevada if he wants to win it

Fair enough.

Those are valid points.

I agree that people can’t act like he’s going to run away with it...this will be a tough battle and no way will Bernie win every state.

I do think this is a good start tho...and remember come Super Tuesday, if he wins California he will be in EXCELLENT shape.
california's delegates are gonna be split fairly evenly despite Bernie leading fairly well

Super Tuesday could potentially be huge for us though, we can win a huge number of delegates and build momentum while the establishment candidates are pulling away support from one another. The real test is after they all coalesce into one candidate
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Certainly hope the Bern gets the ticket this time. He's the only one really worth voting for imo.
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I do hope he could get someone to help inform him on things he may have less knowledge on that can cause the wrong decisions to be made.
 
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Ahhh, mmmm, nope. I'm going to have to say Michael Bloomberg is the best choice at this point. He is the most qualified person to ever run for office and he's a truly upstanding man of the people. I can't point to any specifics, but I was paid enough to advertise for him so...
 
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Will Bernie lower the age of consent in USA? Will he make sex with Sengoku Nadeko (13) and Ilya(10) legal...? That's the question I'm asking after vising OP profile. I mean you just put Epstein for that into jail and screech that *allegedly* Trump did fuck 13 year old!

I mean I would be happy with lowering it to 16 at least, because I have enough of that FBI jokes and "she is 17.999 years old you are pedo!!!" logic.
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Will Bernie lower the age of consent in USA? Will he make sex with Sengoku Nadeko (13) and Ilya(10) legal...? That's the question I'm asking after vising OP profile. I mean you just put Epstein for that into jail and screech that *allegedly* Trump did fuck 13 year old!

I mean I would be happy with lowering it to 16 at least, because I have enough of that FBI jokes and "she is 17.999 years old you are pedo!!!" logic.

It's unlikely any president would do that even if one wanted to. It already differs by state though so even if federal age was lowered it would only have an impact on what Americans do while abroad or crossing state lines.

Trump years ago signed an agreement with a group called Enough is Enough which is a group that focuses on things like wanting to ban cartoon porn which would as result include hentai by using old unused laws which was part of the agreement.
 
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It is unfortunate but I think trump is going to lose. Biden fuckrd himself and Pete Pete isn't going to win. If sanders gets the nomination, which I'm pretty sure he will, trump will lose.
 
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traed said:
shirakawa_megumi said:
Will Bernie lower the age of consent in USA? Will he make sex with Sengoku Nadeko (13) and Ilya(10) legal...? That's the question I'm asking after vising OP profile. I mean you just put Epstein for that into jail and screech that *allegedly* Trump did fuck 13 year old!

I mean I would be happy with lowering it to 16 at least, because I have enough of that FBI jokes and "she is 17.999 years old you are pedo!!!" logic.

It's unlikely any president would do that even if one wanted to. It already differs by state though so even if federal age was lowered it would only have an impact on what Americans do while abroad or crossing state lines.

Trump years ago signed an agreement with a group called Enough is Enough which is a group that focuses on things like wanting to ban cartoon porn which would as result include hentai by using old unused laws which was part of the agreement.


Big sad, very big sad. This could be the biggest sad in history of all sads.

Today I read fantastic doujin. Probably not very Christian friendly. I mean they like young, but male young, I only like cute females.



Uff, I can't find anything about anime. Hentai is only mentioned in stats of PH. They seems to not be very cultured. They care about Frozen porn. I would personally prefer pre hair cut blonde rapunzel from Tangled. She was fucking cutie.

"what Americans do while abroad" - like this is so fucking stupid to me, even if you make law like that, how do you track if some guy from US fucks 16 year old in Europe? I mean it's not crime here everywhere but 1 or 2 countries, do you really stalk all of your citizens from satellites and through their phones?

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
It is unfortunate but I think trump is going to lose. Biden fuckrd himself and Pete Pete isn't going to win. If sanders gets the nomination, which I'm pretty sure he will, trump will lose.


Sure you will enjoy your millions of muslim immigrants coming after Bernie will effectively order destroy border by letting everyone in.
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shirakawa_megumi said:
traed said:

It's unlikely any president would do that even if one wanted to. It already differs by state though so even if federal age was lowered it would only have an impact on what Americans do while abroad or crossing state lines.

Trump years ago signed an agreement with a group called Enough is Enough which is a group that focuses on things like wanting to ban cartoon porn which would as result include hentai by using old unused laws which was part of the agreement.


Big sad, very big sad. This could be the biggest sad in history of all sads.

Today I read fantastic doujin. Probably not very Christian friendly. I mean they like young, but male young, I only like cute females.



Uff, I can't find anything about anime. Hentai is only mentioned in stats of PH. They seems to not be very cultured. They care about Frozen porn. I would personally prefer pre hair cut blonde rapunzel from Tangled. She was fucking cutie.

"what Americans do while abroad" - like this is so fucking stupid to me, even if you make law like that, how do you track if some guy from US fucks 16 year old in Europe? I mean it's not crime here everywhere but 1 or 2 countries, do you really stalk all of your citizens from satellites and through their phones?


Yes the group doesn't seem aware of hentai doujin yet and only mention mainly Disney and the like but that doesn't suggest it's all they care about. They basically think all animation is for children.

Basically anyone that reports it. It doesn't even have to be a citizen.

But anyway as I suggested AoC isn't even really part of politics in the US so it's not relevant to topic.
 
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shirakawa_megumi said:
traed said:

It's unlikely any president would do that even if one wanted to. It already differs by state though so even if federal age was lowered it would only have an impact on what Americans do while abroad or crossing state lines.

Trump years ago signed an agreement with a group called Enough is Enough which is a group that focuses on things like wanting to ban cartoon porn which would as result include hentai by using old unused laws which was part of the agreement.


Big sad, very big sad. This could be the biggest sad in history of all sads.

Today I read fantastic doujin. Probably not very Christian friendly. I mean they like young, but male young, I only like cute females.



Uff, I can't find anything about anime. Hentai is only mentioned in stats of PH. They seems to not be very cultured. They care about Frozen porn. I would personally prefer pre hair cut blonde rapunzel from Tangled. She was fucking cutie.

"what Americans do while abroad" - like this is so fucking stupid to me, even if you make law like that, how do you track if some guy from US fucks 16 year old in Europe? I mean it's not crime here everywhere but 1 or 2 countries, do you really stalk all of your citizens from satellites and through their phones?

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
It is unfortunate but I think trump is going to lose. Biden fuckrd himself and Pete Pete isn't going to win. If sanders gets the nomination, which I'm pretty sure he will, trump will lose.


Sure you will enjoy your millions of muslim immigrants coming after Bernie will effectively order destroy border by letting everyone in.


No, they were already allocated to Europe and are slowly taking over. UK prime example of daily stabbings
 
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Yes the group doesn't seem aware of hentai doujin yet and only mention mainly Disney and the like but that doesn't suggest it's all they care about. They basically think all animation is for children.

Basically anyone that reports it. It doesn't even have to be a citizen.

But anyway as I suggested AoC isn't even really part of politics in the US so it's not relevant to topic.


Well, I don't agree with OP who likes this weird ideologies which Bernie presents, mainly open borders and insane identity/SJW politics, racism towards white people but still, he has so many good waifu on his profile, and if he faps to Ilya, and all this JC/JK or even JS (Shinobu smol version is definitely JS) cuties I can't really bring myself to hate him. That's the power of anime, it's connects even most conflicted people together. I don't want some Karen or some Alexandrio to take it from US! Even if it's slightly naughty anime!

Also to think that, mere 5 years ago, Bernie was against open borders and called for hating immigrants by no other than ultra-progressive-trans-rights-it's-mam!-woke-bullshit-media VOX.

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9048401/bernie-sanders-open-borders

Like fuck, these people are insane

"f I could add one amendment to the Constitution, it would be the one Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Robert Bartley once proposed: "There shall be open borders." There is no single policy that the United States could adopt that would do more good for more people."

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shirakawa_megumi said:

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
It is unfortunate but I think trump is going to lose. Biden fuckrd himself and Pete Pete isn't going to win. If sanders gets the nomination, which I'm pretty sure he will, trump will lose.


Sure you will enjoy your millions of muslim immigrants coming after Bernie will effectively order destroy border by letting everyone in.

They'd have to get a big ass boat or a ton of planes because the US has no notable neighbors with Islam as a state or major religion.
(Also the US already has like 3.5 million muslim citizens and really the most radical religious group we have are some branches of Evangelicals.)
 
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^ Most democrats were against open borders. It's just Trump driving the bullshit bus that Dems were going for open borders to make it seem like Dems are fine with letting an "invasion" of immigrants into USA.

Anyways, the Bern is back baby. Bernie is probably going to win Nevada as well. I expect Biden to win South Carolina, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's like razor thin victory for Biden over Bernie, which would basically tank Biden's campaign if that were to happen. Considering that Biden's had a hard-on for SC.

It's time for Bernie to start looking at potential running mates. Maybe he could get that Wisconsin Senator in order to pacify the DNC, and to try and get an edge over the would-be convict.


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Sure you will enjoy your millions of muslim immigrants coming after Bernie will effectively order destroy border by letting everyone in.

They'd have to get a big ass boat or a ton of planes because the US has no notable neighbors with Islam as a state or major religion.
(Also the US already has like 3.5 million muslim citizens and really the most radical religious group we have are Evangelicals.)


Ilhan Omar would change that. Soon enough you will be burning churches and building mosques. Slowly but surely they will find way to US. With all that hate toward christians, fueled by leftist, it's only matter of time.

Because we all know, christianity bad, islam good and progressive, all for that LGBT rights.

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^ Most democrats were against open borders. It's just Trump driving the bullshit bus that Dems were going for open borders to make it seem like Dems are fine with letting an "invasion" of immigrants into USA.

Anyways, the Bern is back baby. Bernie is probably going to win Nevada as well. I expect Biden to win South Carolina, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's like razor thin victory for Biden over Bernie, which would basically tank Biden's campaign if that were to happen. Considering that Biden's had a hard-on for SC.

It's time for Bernie to start looking at potential running mates. Maybe he could get that Wisconsin Senator in order to pacify the DNC, and to try and get an edge over the would-be convict.


Dude, when at the debate they asked who is for free healthcare for illegal immigrants they all fucking raised hands.

Bernie is said, that first day, he is ordering to let 11 mln people to the country and give citizenship to all illegals.

They are for open borders. They want to destroy border control, they want to guarantee healthcare and citizenship for anybody who will put one foot at the US soil. That is de facto open borders.

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shirakawa_megumi said:
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They'd have to get a big ass boat or a ton of planes because the US has no notable neighbors with Islam as a state or major religion.
(Also the US already has like 3.5 million muslim citizens and really the most radical religious group we have are Evangelicals.)


Ilhan Omar would change that. Soon enough you will be burning churches and building mosques. Slowly but surely they will find way to US. With all that hate toward christians, fueled by leftist, it's only matter of time.

Because we all know, christianity bad, islam good and progressive, all for that LGBT rights.

You're wildly overestimating how much political pull she has insane slippery slope argument aside. She's a house representative, meaning she only has the voting weight out of 1 person out of 435 members.
Also I'd rather all religion be out of politics, which is why I say that branches of Evangelicalism are the most radical religious group in the US. Because they're the only group who is both active politically and has the population to sway policy.

Basically what I'm getting at is all organized religion sucks.
 
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Ilhan Omar would change that. Soon enough you will be burning churches and building mosques. Slowly but surely they will find way to US. With all that hate toward christians, fueled by leftist, it's only matter of time.

Because we all know, christianity bad, islam good and progressive, all for that LGBT rights.

You're wildly overestimating how much political pull she has insane slippery slope argument aside. She's a house representative, meaning she only has the voting weight out of 1 person out of 435 members.
Also I'd rather all religion be out of politics, which is why I say that branches of Evangelicalism are the most radical religious group in the US. Because they're the only group who is both active politically and has the population to sway policy.

Basically what I'm getting at is all organized religion sucks.


She isn't only one person of 435 votes. She and her commie friend, who dreams of hanging Jeff Bezos and nationalizing Amazon have the have Bernie wrapped around theirs little fingers. That old socialist couldn't withstand that young diverse pussy and now he does as they want him to do.

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Not really sure why you have such a hard on for Jeff Bezos but all they've really said is Amazon should pay more than the $0 they paid in Federal taxes for 2017 and 2018 (granted they paid in 2019 it was only about 1.2% of their reported income and Trump has been an outspoken critic of Amazon as well).

Bernie has mostly had the same views since at least the 60s, it's not like he suddenly became leaned progressive 1 year ago when those women entered politics.
 
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Not really sure why you have such a hard on for Jeff Bezos but all they've really said is Amazon should pay more than the $0 they paid in Federal taxes for 2017 and 2018 (granted they paid in 2019 it was only about 1.2% of their reported income and Trump has been an outspoken critic of Amazon as well).

Bernie has mostly had the same views since at least the 60s, it's not like he suddenly became leaned progressive 1 year ago when those women entered politics.


No, he doesn't have the same views. He literally didn't want open borders 5 years ago. You just repeating after other sheeps. If he said the same as 5 years ago, you people would call him fascist and white supremacist.

Amazon for one makes a lot of jobs, two gets products to millions of Americans, three it's not your company, but his.

Do you agree with AOC when she blocked Amazon from New York?

Also taxes are one thing, but taking away private companies and pushing communist worker owned means of productions are very different things. Reform your work laws and taxes, but nationalizing private companies is just fucking communism.

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Well, AOC pulling that move on Amazon basically forced Amazon to split HQ2 between NYC and Northern Virginia. And, that's a win in my book. It's nice to see cities that are not huge get some sort of reward.

Amazon may make a lot of jobs, but the vast majority of those jobs are under terrible conditions, and they end up being underpaid for the amount of hard physical work they do to support Amazon's shipping logistics.

And, no one will nationalize companies. Will never happen in America, sorry. But, big tech corporations like Amazon and Netflix need to pay their fair share of income taxes.


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shirakawa_megumi said:
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Not really sure why you have such a hard on for Jeff Bezos but all they've really said is Amazon should pay more than the $0 they paid in Federal taxes for 2017 and 2018 (granted they paid in 2019 it was only about 1.2% of their reported income and Trump has been an outspoken critic of Amazon as well).

Bernie has mostly had the same views since at least the 60s, it's not like he suddenly became leaned progressive 1 year ago when those women entered politics.


No, he doesn't have the same views. He literally didn't want open borders 5 years ago. You just repeating after other sheeps. If he said the same as 5 years ago, you people would call him fascist and white supremacist.

Amazon for one makes a lot of jobs, two gets products to millions of Americans, three it's not your company, but his.

Do you agree with AOC when she blocked Amazon from New York?

Also taxes are one thing, but taking away private companies and pushing communist worker owned means of productions are very different things.


Except you've in this very thread actively lied about his stance on borders by falsely equating them with healthcare access. He has stated he believes healthcare should be a human right and as recent as last year he's still stated his hard stance against open borders. Neither of these are pivots in his past policy.

They make a lot of jobs with some of the worst worker conditions in any modern business. A store selling products doesn't provide me any reason to be sympathetic. I never claimed it was mine, how is this an argument?

Yes. I don't believe a state should have to use tax payer money to bribe an organization to build a headquarters there. Why would any reasonable person want that? Also they ended up opening a New York office anyway without any of the special tax benefits which she praised them for.

That's not communist, that's socialist, contrary to what you may have been lead to believe they are very different things. We also already had various forms of that dating back to before WW2 so it's cool you have about as much of a modern grasp of capitalism as someone in the 1800s.
 
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No, he doesn't have the same views. He literally didn't want open borders 5 years ago. You just repeating after other sheeps. If he said the same as 5 years ago, you people would call him fascist and white supremacist.

Amazon for one makes a lot of jobs, two gets products to millions of Americans, three it's not your company, but his.

Do you agree with AOC when she blocked Amazon from New York?

Also taxes are one thing, but taking away private companies and pushing communist worker owned means of productions are very different things.


Except you've in this very thread actively lied about his stance on borders by falsely equating them with healthcare access. He has stated he believes healthcare should be a human right and as recent as last year he's still stated his hard stance against open borders. Neither of these are pivots in his past policy.

They make a lot of jobs with some of the worst worker conditions in any modern business. A store selling products doesn't provide me any reason to be sympathetic. I never claimed it was mine, how is this an argument?

Yes. I don't believe a state should have to use tax payer money to have to bribe an organization to build a headquarters there. Why would any reasonable person want that? Also they ended up opening a New York office anyway without any of the special tax benefits which she praised them for.

That's not communist, that's socialist, contrary to what you may have been lead to believe they are very different things. We also already had various forms of that dating back to before WW2 so it's cool you have about as much of a modern grasp of capitalism as someone in the 1800s.


He said, he will give 'free' healthcare to all illegals, and that he will let all illegals have citizenship. Voila, de facto no borders. Also you claim, he thinks and says the same since 60'. It's not true!

Tax breaks are not bribes, there are literally dozens of countries who do the same.

Yeah, saying to owner of private company "fuck off, this is shared by all of us now" is communist.
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Except you've in this very thread actively lied about his stance on borders by falsely equating them with healthcare access. He has stated he believes healthcare should be a human right and as recent as last year he's still stated his hard stance against open borders. Neither of these are pivots in his past policy.

They make a lot of jobs with some of the worst worker conditions in any modern business. A store selling products doesn't provide me any reason to be sympathetic. I never claimed it was mine, how is this an argument?

Yes. I don't believe a state should have to use tax payer money to have to bribe an organization to build a headquarters there. Why would any reasonable person want that? Also they ended up opening a New York office anyway without any of the special tax benefits which she praised them for.

That's not communist, that's socialist, contrary to what you may have been lead to believe they are very different things. We also already had various forms of that dating back to before WW2 so it's cool you have about as much of a modern grasp of capitalism as someone in the 1800s.


He said, he will give 'free' healthcare to all illegals, and that he will let all illegals have citizenship. Voila, de facto no borders. Also you claim, he thinks and says the same since 60'. It's not true!

Tax breaks are not bribes, there are literally dozens of countries who do the same.

Yeah, saying to owner of private company "fuck off, this is shared by all of us now" is communist.

No he said he would provide a path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants who are already here. That doesn't carry on to future immigrants in other words not an open border. In fact the way you phrased it earlier was a lie, you phrased it as if he's inviting 11 million people to the country and not that they already live here and potentially have for decades. Even referencing something like the Dream Act which Obama used as a path to citizenship an estimated 2.3 million people out of that 11 million group qualified.

Tax credits are bribes, saying a company doesn't have to pay a set amount of money (in this case the offer was $1 billion in Tax credits) to operate is just a roundabout bribe.

Except where did anybody say that? Even in the limited context of the AOC video you posted it could be argued as a variation of an anti-trust system which the US has employed. She also made it a point to say they aren't interested in his possessions or accrued wealth which is a key feature of Communism. That's what makes it Socialist and not Communist, a Communist wants private property to be abolished.
 
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He said, he will give 'free' healthcare to all illegals, and that he will let all illegals have citizenship. Voila, de facto no borders. Also you claim, he thinks and says the same since 60'. It's not true!

Tax breaks are not bribes, there are literally dozens of countries who do the same.

Yeah, saying to owner of private company "fuck off, this is shared by all of us now" is communist.

No he said he would provide a path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants who are already here. That doesn't carry on to future immigrants in other words not an open border. In fact the way you phrased it earlier was a lie, you phrased it as if he's inviting 11 million people to the country and not that they already live here and potentially have for decades. Even referencing something like the Dream Act which Obama used as a path to citizenship an estimated 2.3 million people out of that 11 million group qualified.

Tax credits are bribes, saying a company doesn't have to pay a set amount of money (in this case the offer was $1 billion in Tax credits) to operate is just a roundabout bribe.

Except where did anybody say that? Even in the limited context of the AOC video you posted it could be argued as a variation of an anti-trust system which the US has employed. She also made it a point to say they aren't interested in his possessions or accrued wealth which is a key feature of Communism. That's what makes it Socialist and not Communist, a Communist wants private property to be abolished.


Of course he is inviting them, because they all should be catched and deported. He is saying "welcome home criminals, I'll give you everything you want!"

Of course, tax break equals bribe, sure.

She literally says, that Jeff Bezos should give up his company to his employees. It's fucking communist, what on Earth you are talking about? He has no right to have company in her opinion. Combine this with Bernies plan to take all money from rich people, and you have ideal communism.

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shirakawa_megumi said:
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No he said he would provide a path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants who are already here. That doesn't carry on to future immigrants in other words not an open border. In fact the way you phrased it earlier was a lie, you phrased it as if he's inviting 11 million people to the country and not that they already live here and potentially have for decades. Even referencing something like the Dream Act which Obama used as a path to citizenship an estimated 2.3 million people out of that 11 million group qualified.

Tax credits are bribes, saying a company doesn't have to pay a set amount of money (in this case the offer was $1 billion in Tax credits) to operate is just a roundabout bribe.

Except where did anybody say that? Even in the limited context of the AOC video you posted it could be argued as a variation of an anti-trust system which the US has employed. She also made it a point to say they aren't interested in his possessions or accrued wealth which is a key feature of Communism. That's what makes it Socialist and not Communist, a Communist wants private property to be abolished.


Of course he is inviting them, because they all should be catched and deported. He is saying "welcome home criminals, I'll give you everything you want!"

Of course, tax break equals bribe, sure.

She literally says, that Jeff Bezos should give up his company to his employees. It's fucking communist, what on Earth you are talking about? He has no right to have company in her opinion. Combine this with Bernies plan to take all money from rich people, and you have ideal communism.


If a person's only crime for say over a decade is that they walked through a desert uninvited then I'd hardly consider them a criminal and if they made themselves a functioning member of society they should have an option to be a citizen. Especially because in the US it wasn't even considered a misdemeanor until the Bush administration.

Because it's socialist, as I've tried to explain there is a notable difference.

Also that claim about Bernie's plan is just a lie he never claimed he planned to liberate all private property from billionaires just that they should pay a fair share. Which would likely be more in line with a Capital Gains tax which focuses on sales of an asset such as stocks or property if we were discussing new forms of payment.
 
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@GamerDLM You are wasting you energy talking to that particular individual quite frankly he/she isn't a bright individual to discuss about politics i will say and is very obsessive regarding Islam,people of color,white people and left wing politics.
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Too fucking bad. When I'm paying for Next Day Shipping, you better believe that I expect for Bezos to deliver my onaholes within that given time frame. So far, so good; let the man keep his tax breaks.

Free shit for illegal aliens; the actual motivation behind the very existence of this thread. It's hard to resist those big fat government tits after all.

Can we establish a secure perimeter and authorize lax rules of engagement? Pretty please, Daddy Trump.
 
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Actually Sanders has said many times class matters more than race. That's not identity politics. If you want identity politics you have Trump for that.
 
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Actually Sanders has said many times class matters more than race. That's not identity politics. If you want identity politics you have Trump for that.
I will also add pete buttigieg to that.Whats his actual polices other than he is a cooperate backed lgbt member .Also didn't his appointment in a town/city led to increase in people of color thrown in jail just for those sweet sweet private jail profit?
 
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It appears that some people don't understand the whole tax issue and how it works.

Tax credits are there so major businesses bring jobs and facilities to the area and in return that helps the economy. They aren't bribes, it's an incentive. Low overhead creates growth.

More often than not, companies will leave and not invest in the area if taxes are high.

Wealth taxes do not work. They implemented those in various countries around the globe and ended up repealing them. France tried that and millionaires left in large numbers.

The USA tax code is very complex. Large companies and even some small businesses have tax accountants so they can take advantage of the loopholes and save money. Doing this is not illegal.

Now free healthcare for all sounds fantastic on paper, but how sustainable is it? How will it effect the economy? How much is it going to effect your paycheck? If you want a good example of a failing large government run organization take a look at the US postal system. It loses billions every year, while postal services like UPS that aren't government run are booming.


 
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Now free healthcare for all sounds fantastic on paper, but how sustainable is it? How will it effect the economy? How much is it going to effect your paycheck? If you want a good example of a failing large government run organization take a look at the US postal system. It loses billions every year, while postal services like UPS that aren't government run are booming.


...or the Department of Veterans Affairs, struggling to serve the healthcare needs of only less than 10% of the total U.S. adult population.
 
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Now free healthcare for all sounds fantastic on paper, but how sustainable is it? How will it effect the economy? How much is it going to effect your paycheck? If you want a good example of a failing large government run organization take a look at the US postal system. It loses billions every year, while postal services like UPS that aren't government run are booming.


...or the Department of Veterans Affairs, struggling to serve the healthcare needs of only less than 10% of the total U.S. adult population.


Mmhm, good point. I forgot about that
 
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welp since #YangGang loses then might as well support Bernie
 
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I highly doubt he's going to do the impact alot of his fans expect of him. He argues such modern capitalist ideas, it's like listening to Trump years ago talk about draining a swamp he loves swimming in currently.
Congrats to Sanders regardless
 
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welp since #YangGang loses then might as well support Bernie

No chance unless Bernie adopts UBI and gets his endorsement (highly unlikely).
https://twitter.com/EugeneDaniels2/status/1227408670037770240?s=09

YangGang is about humanity first. Not the smearing against AY by the BernieBros and AOC.
After attacking Andrew Yang and the YangGang for months they expect people to immediately jump over and support them? Are you serious? Not happening. And I know that not everyone is like that and many respect and like AY's policies but even when you have a minority of people smearing another candidate, it does not reflect well on the fanbase/supporters.

Looking beyond toxic supporters, there's a whole other discussion about policy differences that many would not support. There is good discussion here for your own research. And please do indeed do some before ever saying "might as well support Bernie".

The point of voting is not for "who will win" but for "who you want to win". That's the beauty of having your own voice and voting for what you believe in.
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I'm confused, is there a meme suggesting socialism=communism? Or is it just an all around name calling to discredit the other person?

And I pegged traed as somewhat a social-Lib (socialist leaning libertarian)..also I just made that up but is that accurate?
 
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I'm confused, is there a meme suggesting socialism=communism? Or is it just an all around name calling to discredit the other person?

And I pegged traed as somewhat a social-Lib (socialist leaning libertarian)..also I just made that up but is that accurate?

It has to do with a melding of different meanings of socialism and communism by opposition to it and those for it and using the ambiguity of the terms as a means to strawman. Bernie is just a Social Democrat which isn't the same as Democratic Socialist but Americans including Bernie confuse the terms a lot assuming DemSoc is just another name for SocDem when it's something else.

Libertarian Socialist is an actual ideology. You were close when making up a name for it. What I called Left Libertarian is also an ideological category which includes within it Libertarian Socialism among other things.
 
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Now free healthcare for all sounds fantastic on paper, but how sustainable is it? How will it effect the economy? How much is it going to effect your paycheck? If you want a good example of a failing large government run organization take a look at the US postal system. It loses billions every year, while postal services like UPS that aren't government run are booming.


...or the Department of Veterans Affairs, struggling to serve the healthcare needs of only less than 10% of the total U.S. adult population.


PMCs often outperform the national military (better pay less regulations), but I wouldn't just want PMCs. They will get as bad or worse once they achieve monopoly. UPS and FedEx forced the postal serviced to become better.
Veterans affairs is so bad because the people they are supposed to help have left the system. Like unfunded liabilities, pensions and retiree healthcare.
 
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Let's do a comparison.

This is Bernie. Possibly a closet anime fan?




Then of course as everyone should know this is Trump a hater of 2D

 
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Now free healthcare for all sounds fantastic on paper

And it is fantastic off paper. Every other first world country has universal health care and it works fine. US healthcare is third world tier and they pay more per capita compared to other countries. It's hilarious watching self satisfied burgers buying into the propaganda not knowing they are being fucked over in their dystopian country but also disgusting since there are people dying just because they don't have health care.
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Then of course as everyone should know this is Trump a hater of 2D


No culture, POTUS is missing out. I'll let my dissatisfaction be known in my next campaign donation.
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LMAO at Trump fans trying their HARDEST to pretend Bernie is X, Y,and Z!

For the love of god do not bother with these people...they already support Trump which says EVERYTHING you need to know about them.

They have zero substance, are not interested in real world logic or ANY logic for that matter.

But I’m GLAD that they’re nervous!

And trust me, they ARE...and for good reason, Bernie is a REAL populist unlike their FAKE piece of shit serial criminal cult-leader.

Nevada is 5 days away! Let’s go 3 for 3!

Go Bernie Go!
 
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