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Haha ya good job enforcing rigged scores, famalam!
 
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Dogemy said:
I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?


This is an interesting point, and a good question. Doubt a mod/admin will answer, and the OP states that watching and voting like anyone else keeps anti-brigade measures from discounting your vote so then effectively nothing has changed other than altering the scores based on prior data. Would be nice to know what actually was done for reasons like this though.

Frankly I have doubt it'll do much of anything to currently airing things when they get the late season bump (nor for less obvious brigading/boosting either). Or maybe late season bumps will be considered brigading going forward? Who knows.
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JustAnAnimeList said:
I didn't care much about all the brigading stuff, but this is a good update nonetheless. The best thing in all of this is that Chihayafuru S3 finally got its score fixed, so all's right with the world.

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Decent update to the rating system. Far from perfect though. Would be good if MAL figured out how to deal with people who excessively rate everything they run into as a 10/9/8 (Good, Meh, Bad).


I feel you, but that's never going to change. If MAL ever enforces a rule forcing people to use the entire rating scale it will cause a shitstorm of unprecedented proportions. To those people, if you're not rating every anime you watch an 8 or above then you're simply not enjoying anime or you're watching something bad. Just look at Themousen's reply to you, it's a prime example of that.

I think the better reason for MAL to not make a ruling like that is because no one should be allowed to decide what each score means for the individual.

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I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?

My guess is that these would pass since they would be a bunch of existing users changing their score with little or no new accounts created. Brigading is almost always going to come alongside new accounts.
 
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...What kills me about the situation is the "honest" dishonesty of it.

Were they working on this review change for the last six months? Probably. You don't suddenly get this kind of thing working in a single day without prior prep, so I believe that.

Did they implement it RIGHT NOW because of this situation? Yes, yes they did, and no amount of claiming otherwise will change that lie.

How do we know? They've been working on it for at least six months, and the "fix" is still not done yet. You don't implement changes that you KNOW are incomplete, unless something forces you.

So yes, while the change may have been PLANNED before this event, they did, indeed, do it in response to Ichizoku Reviewers, and this laughable attempt to claim otherwise to save face just makes them look immature. As an adult it's far easier to just say, "We get that it was for the meme," (which, to be fair they DID actually say, so there's SOME maturity in there, congratulations, "but sadly in order to protect the integrity of our review site we had to implement this fix earlier than planned. As such, there will be further changes later."

Instead, trying to act like Ichizoku Reviews had nothing to do with it? While rather BLATANTLY showing that it did in their own post?
Last week, a YouTube account posted a video instructing 1M+ subscribers to go to MyAnimeList, register an account if necessary, and vote Ishuzoku Reviewers a 10. This was followed by a second YouTube account, also with 1M+ subscribers. When an individual leads an organized voting raid on a website, instructing his followers to vote yes/no/10/1/5/green⁠—and 15,000+ votes of that specific value come in less than 12 hours, the entry's score has been compromised due to vote brigading.

That just inserts them into the whole situation, leaving them open for (as "Lord Nuxinator" would call it) a return flex. For even more memes.

Just be HONEST people. Lying, even if you are only doing it via technicality, especially for stupid childish reasons like this one, doesn't help anything in these situations. Sheesh.

I mean, I've been a member since 2013 and I've never posted until now. I've been lurking forever... and this is that ridiculous. Hell, you could have even just left the count as it was for a few days just for the lols - everyone knew where they were coming from and it wouldn't have hurt the site, and hell, you could have posted saying, "Lol, nice flex on Funimation Nux, we gave you a few days, but seriously, we need to fix this now, sorry. Good laugh though."

And that would have been the end of it. Now? This knee-jerk reaction to protect funimation's rep? Just makes you look bad. Because MAL's rep wasn't being hurt. Basically, there was no face to lose, until they lied, which causes them to lose face. It's ridiculous.

...and apparently edits to a post are considered new posts, because my post count went up for editing this one. It should only show 1 post, not more. Yet another thing that needs fixing.
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You don't implement changes that you KNOW are incomplete, unless something forces you.

This is a bad take. They said it was not complete, or by their own words, "done", simply because it will never be. There will be new variables that will come up no matter how much the developers prepared for countless scenarios. And sometimes, you just have to ship out a product to see how it performs in production. Tests in a controlled environment will never be enough especially in software.

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Were they working on this review change for the last six months? Probably. You don't suddenly get this kind of thing working in a single day without prior prep, so I believe that.

Did they implement it RIGHT NOW because of this situation? Yes, yes they did, and no amount of claiming otherwise will change that lie.


They've said both of these things - both saying about 6 months ago that they were working on it, and saying more recently that they were increasing its priority and thus bringing the date forward in response to the recent situations. They're just posts you may not have seen - see Kineta's responses at the end of https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750

There's no attempts to claim otherwise.

Oh, and regarding you having 2 post count rather than 1 - it isn't a problem; the previous one is here.
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Diyeeshe said:
Great, glad pingu and reviewers are down to where they belong. Funny how FMAB stayed at number one despite everyone crying about it.


It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time

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I loved Pingu with such a high score just for the joke but yeah, I still agree with this, as it ended being funny so fast.

The joke was dead many years ago but it's good to see the score how it should be.
 
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i watched Ishikoku and thought it was severely overrated at 8.x, glad i was right.
 
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Better late than never. At least the raids managed to introduce one positive addition to this site lol.


Lol Nux is the best thing that happened to this site, finally someone has the balls to admit it.
 
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Do we know the method you use to find "fake" accounts? It seems pretty unbelievable that Interspecies Reviewers returned to its pervious rating, since I would imagine A LOT of people who upvoted it have real accounts they use regularly. It would also make sense that people who have these accounts watch more anime and are more likely to have seen the video. Just seems like the rating change seems to be too drastic to have happened purely due to a 'fake account spotting algorithm'.'
 
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Dogemy said:
I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?


That is an excellent question. However, I do not think so because the users that vote in that last episode are using their accounts on a regular basis, so the algorithm must mark the score as valid.
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Diyeeshe said:
Great, glad pingu and reviewers are down to where they belong. Funny how FMAB stayed at number one despite everyone crying about it.


It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time

No , it did not got to#1. You are probably refering to the fake screenshot which was circulation with his fans.
It got uptil #2 , and started dropping.

I respect your opinion but please shut up

 
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liamhabib said:
Diyeeshe said:
Great, glad pingu and reviewers are down to where they belong. Funny how FMAB stayed at number one despite everyone crying about it.


It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time


When Lelouch is lying, at least he has some elements to back up his claims. The maximal score was 9.20 and below FMAB (at 9.22 at the time). It never reached the top spot.

@Dogemy This seems quite hard to implement an algorithm that can take the residue modulo hype, and I wonder why it would be desirable to do so. Most of shows benefit from hype, but to quantify exactly how much this counts into the final score seems very difficult, as it is just one of the components of the subjective appreciation of a piece of art (or rather craft here). Furthermore, popular successes also attract salty individuals who will downvote series for the sake of contradiction and proof of self-independence. Although they are not as many as the previous group, an algorithm should also deal with them, right?

In a word, I do not really think that there is a good way to make scores more "objective" since personal ratings differ a lot. Therefore, the votes should be taken equally into account unless one could find a good theory to explain what it an acceptable vote and what is not.

Edit: @DomineLkira Sorry for the double refutation, I was writing my message at the same time so that yours did not appear.

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...What kills me about the situation is the "honest" dishonesty of it.

Were they working on this review change for the last six months? Probably. You don't suddenly get this kind of thing working in a single day without prior prep, so I believe that.

Did they implement it RIGHT NOW because of this situation? Yes, yes they did, and no amount of claiming otherwise will change that lie.

How do we know? They've been working on it for at least six months, and the "fix" is still not done yet. You don't implement changes that you KNOW are incomplete, unless something forces you.

So yes, while the change may have been PLANNED before this event, they did, indeed, do it in response to Ichizoku Reviewers, and this laughable attempt to claim otherwise to save face just makes them look immature. As an adult it's far easier to just say, "We get that it was for the meme," (which, to be fair they DID actually say, so there's SOME maturity in there, congratulations, "but sadly in order to protect the integrity of our review site we had to implement this fix earlier than planned. As such, there will be further changes later."

Instead, trying to act like Ichizoku Reviews had nothing to do with it? While rather BLATANTLY showing that it did in their own post?
Last week, a YouTube account posted a video instructing 1M+ subscribers to go to MyAnimeList, register an account if necessary, and vote Ishuzoku Reviewers a 10. This was followed by a second YouTube account, also with 1M+ subscribers. When an individual leads an organized voting raid on a website, instructing his followers to vote yes/no/10/1/5/green⁠—and 15,000+ votes of that specific value come in less than 12 hours, the entry's score has been compromised due to vote brigading.

That just inserts them into the whole situation, leaving them open for (as "Lord Nuxinator" would call it) a return flex. For even more memes.

Just be HONEST people. Lying, even if you are only doing it via technicality, especially for stupid childish reasons like this one, doesn't help anything in these situations. Sheesh.

I mean, I've been a member since 2013 and I've never posted until now. I've been lurking forever... and this is that ridiculous. Hell, you could have even just left the count as it was for a few days just for the lols - everyone knew where they were coming from and it wouldn't have hurt the site, and hell, you could have posted saying, "Lol, nice flex on Funimation Nux, we gave you a few days, but seriously, we need to fix this now, sorry. Good laugh though."

And that would have been the end of it. Now? This knee-jerk reaction to protect funimation's rep? Just makes you look bad. Because MAL's rep wasn't being hurt. Basically, there was no face to lose, until they lied, which causes them to lose face. It's ridiculous.

...and apparently edits to a post are considered new posts, because my post count went up for editing this one. It should only show 1 post, not more. Yet another thing that needs fixing.


This post is one of the worst attempt at ridiculing MAL I've seen and only prove that you guys should just retire at this point. You lost the war, that's it. It's done. Move to something else now.
 
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@Meusnier , there is no need to apologize lol. Just do your thing.

I respect your opinion but please shut up

 
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I like how not only are you now manipulating votes to combat vote manipulation but are now deleting critical comments and threatening to ban users who dare disagree.

You know MAL isn't the only anime list site right? Not only have you guys screwed up but being shutdown for months due to your own security flaws but now you are actively pushing users away from the site. Genius move really.

Remember users can always go to Anilist.


That sounds like more of a negative for the users that end up there :p
 
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I was away for the weekend and didn't read every post since I left. If you have a question that hasn't been answered, feel free to mention me.

Dogemy said:
I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?
No. The system does not detect brigading. Only duplicate/rating troll accounts which are newly made. This is why the scores were all recalculated.

From my post:
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Entries will still be vulnerable to YouTube voting raids due to the participation of legitimate user accounts. If new entries receive organized voting brigades, we will apply the second system to these entries (to readjust their scores) and will inform the community that we have done so. Please let Ishuzoku Reviewers be the last of it.

Edit: In case it's not clear, we don't want to apply the second system and will only do so in cases where we're forced to. Legitimate users should be allowed to score however they want. However, getting a tiny bit of internet fame shouldn't allow you to deliberately manipulate the score either.
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@Meusnier , there is no need to apologize lol. Just do your thing.


Sure, just wanted to explain that I did not try to rewrite the same message after yours.
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NeoAnkara said:
Well I found several account that behaving the same across several specific series which include series that I mentioned whilst having rather "normal" score around other series. What should I do then with this information?
The days of reporting individual user accounts are over, I think. Since the accounts remain while their scores do not count, it is not possible for regular users to tell what is already handled by the system, and @Luna going through these accounts seems pointless. We were considering a thread where we could be asked to check an entry rather than user accounts (to be sure new suspicious activity is caught), but haven't quite envisioned how it would work yet.


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NeoAnkara said:
Well I found several account that behaving the same across several specific series which include series that I mentioned whilst having rather "normal" score around other series. What should I do then with this information?
The days of reporting individual user accounts are over, I think. Since the accounts remain while their scores do not count, it is not possible for regular users to tell what is already handled by the system, and @Luna going through these accounts seems pointless. We were considering a thread where we could be asked to check an entry rather than user accounts (to be sure new suspicious activity is caught), but haven't quite envisioned how it would work yet.
I did propose a score freeze before when situation like this happen. Right when Nogi Wakaba alongside many other score blown up out of proportion. But right now it feel too late to stop the crusading for those series because of the bot. And now popularity play bigger proportion for LN score than ever.

Still if I can say something since you already know the series that are affected by that it can still be traced until at least August last year when the bot start being active.

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I did propose a score freeze before when situation like this happen. Right when Nogi Wakaba alongside many other score blown up out of proportion. But right now it feel too late to stop the crusading for those series because of the bot. And now popularity play bigger proportion for LN score than ever.

Still if I can say something since you already know the series that are affected by that it can still be traced until at least August last year when the bot start being active.

Just little bit of my wish and insight.
We cannot "freeze" scores and we cannot remove 1/10s from legitimate users trying to score against bots. This would be the mind-reading everyone is accusing us of. The only time we will start discounting scores from "legitimate user accounts" is when there is a clear instance of mass vote manipulation. Mass is like on the order of thousands and tens of thousands (depending on the original entry size).

I received the Nogi Wakaba data from the tech team today and will go through it this evening or tomorrow evening to be sure some rating trolls didn't slip through.


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Kineta said:
NeoAnkara said:
I did propose a score freeze before when situation like this happen. Right when Nogi Wakaba alongside many other score blown up out of proportion. But right now it feel too late to stop the crusading for those series because of the bot. And now popularity play bigger proportion for LN score than ever.

Still if I can say something since you already know the series that are affected by that it can still be traced until at least August last year when the bot start being active.

Just little bit of my wish and insight.
We cannot "freeze" scores and we cannot remove 1/10s from legitimate users trying to score against bots. This would be the mind-reading everyone is accusing us of. The only time we will start discounting scores from "legitimate user accounts" is when there is a clear instance of mass vote manipulation. Mass is like on the order of thousands and tens of thousands (depending on the original entry size).

I received the Nogi Wakaba data from the tech team today and will go through it this evening or tomorrow evening to be sure some rating trolls didn't slip through.
Well I say it back in August when the Illegitimate Account thread is start getting closed as it is the earliest stage of manga bot. This is what I mean.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1799436

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It's cute that they think this will change anything after the shitstorm had occurred.
 
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Is there any way to see how many votes weren't counted that doesn't include adding up the total in the stats page.
Eg. Steins;Gate "scored by 750,046 users" (375455+214509+108152+43802+16050+8429+3811+1687+1073+3388)-750,046= ~26k votes excluded
 
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So why did this take a week to get fixed again?
It was clearly an issue that could have been fixed the same day of the raid with account verifications for activity on the site and verifications to vote based on that.. Maybe a month minimum to vote or any other basic solution. Which is not hard at all to do. Instead of letting an entire dumbster fire to happen.
 
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And so ends the rein of Ishuzoku Reviewers as the best anime ever made. It was a good run lads but everything is back where it should be lol.
 
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Removing some obvious bot/brigading votes on a select few animes is always a good thing (so people new to anime dont see Pingu with 9+ thinking its the best anime ever lol).

But honestly this isn't going to change much imo, there is simply no way for an algorithm to detect less obvious vote bridaging, or when an anime just gets released, how exactly does the system differenciate between overhype (which is pretty common) and troll votes or vote brigading telling people to give a high rating (without necessarily being as polarizing as 1 or 10) ?

It also doesn't really change the fact that everyone has their own views on anime and ratings, and that people generally won't agree with everyone else (which is what those average scores represent, an average of very different viewer populations), so the scores are gonna be considered highly innacurate / worthless by many people.

Removing cheaters is good tho, I just dont feel like it's really improving the quality of the site.
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Kineta said:

Ishuzoku Reviewers' score is returned to ~7.6—nearly identical to the score from January 31. This is not "frozen" and can still rise to 8+ if voting and account behaviour proceeds as usual.

No accounts involved in the brigade were banned or deleted. If these "brigading accounts" continue to watch and vote normally, their scores will be counted like all normal accounts.


I'm a little confused about these statements. If the "brigading" accounts vote up other anime their original vote of 10/10 will return? Or is it even possible for their vote to count? Are they essentially banned from voting on a brigaded anime once they "participated" in the brigading? Also how did you determine who wasn't and was part of the brigade? Was it essentially just new accounts or was there some form of algorithm or was it more of just a removal of all 10/10

Also if an anime is hyped is that vote brigading?

Honestly I think it would be a better idea to have a more weighted system for votes. I.e. say 50k people watched an anime and 90% of those 50k people voted it a 10 but also like 50% of those people just so happened to have dropped the anime after episode 4 but still leave their rating. And even if you make it so their vote doesn't count it still should because they dropped the anime. In fact maybe doing simple things like sending reminders to rerank the anime may be good if you don't want an algo to decide how they view it. Also respected reviewers wouldn't be a bad idea either or something like it
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Great, glad pingu and reviewers are down to where they belong. Funny how FMAB stayed at number one despite everyone crying about it.


It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time


No it did not, I was following it closely and the highest Reviewers managed to get was one below FMAB but it never overtook it.

Regardless, my comment was about after recalculation anyway.
 
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I'm still in the minority who thinks you guys care way too much about a dumb arbitrary number.

Also, if admins are able to control scores to this level, why is nobody worried about them manipulating scores in other ways to match their own opinions of a show? It's certainly within their power.
 
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I was away for the weekend and didn't read every post since I left. If you have a question that hasn't been answered, feel free to mention me.

Dogemy said:
I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?
No. The system does not detect brigading. Only duplicate/rating troll accounts which are newly made. This is why the scores were all recalculated.

From my post:
Kineta said:
Entries will still be vulnerable to YouTube voting raids due to the participation of legitimate user accounts. If new entries receive organized voting brigades, we will apply the second system to these entries (to readjust their scores) and will inform the community that we have done so. Please let Ishuzoku Reviewers be the last of it.

Edit: In case it's not clear, we don't want to apply the second system and will only do so in cases where we're forced to. Legitimate users should be allowed to score however they want. However, getting a tiny bit of internet fame shouldn't allow you to deliberately manipulate the score either.


At the same time, a LOT of anime get a surprising boost in score in the long run due to big Youtuber legitimate recommendations (Gigguk comes to mind every season, fortunately for good reasons). And several of the times him or his other fellow anime reviewer friends that actually aren't just trying to meme-boost scores into infinity for the heck of it boost both number of watchers of the series talked about by them considerably, as well as their score going up or down, much like any the effect of any Aggregator site like Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic has in the arguments talked about by their audience users.

I hope you don't limit Ishuzoku Reviewers's score in that front with that second check up just because it got raided, most of all popular credible anime reviewers I know of really enjoyed the show, and naturally so will a big number of their followers to an extent, this Nux guy basically cemented this show into irrelevancy in the site if even legitimate scores from legitimate users are being taking into account as unreliable in the staff's eyes, and that's not something I would like to see happening.

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Diyeeshe said:
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It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time


No it did not, I was following it closely and the highest Reviewers managed to get was one below FMAB but it never overtook it.

Regardless, my comment was about after recalculation anyway.


That's where you're wrong. It did actually take the #1 spot for a brief moment.

 
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Kineta said:
I was away for the weekend and didn't read every post since I left. If you have a question that hasn't been answered, feel free to mention me.

Dogemy said:
I wonder what this will do for new anime going forth when they have wow factors episodes. Like demon slayers episode 19, or vinland sagas last episode, both of which made a hefty dent in their overall scores. will an algorithm accidentally detect that as brigading?
No. The system does not detect brigading. Only duplicate/rating troll accounts which are newly made. This is why the scores were all recalculated.

From my post:
Kineta said:
Entries will still be vulnerable to YouTube voting raids due to the participation of legitimate user accounts. If new entries receive organized voting brigades, we will apply the second system to these entries (to readjust their scores) and will inform the community that we have done so. Please let Ishuzoku Reviewers be the last of it.

Edit: In case it's not clear, we don't want to apply the second system and will only do so in cases where we're forced to. Legitimate users should be allowed to score however they want. However, getting a tiny bit of internet fame shouldn't allow you to deliberately manipulate the score either.


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No it did not, I was following it closely and the highest Reviewers managed to get was one below FMAB but it never overtook it.

Regardless, my comment was about after recalculation anyway.


That's where you're wrong. It did actually take the #1 spot for a brief moment.



Isn't this screenshot fake?

I was F5-ing the top page every 30 seconds after it reached 80k members up to when it held 9,21 with 100k+ and didn't see this happening at all.
 
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Meusnier said:
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It didn't though, at least for a little bit, Reviewers past it and was 9.28 for a time


When Lelouch is lying, at least he has some elements to back up his claims. The maximal score was 9.20 and below FMAB (at 9.22 at the time). It never reached the top spot.

@Dogemy This seems quite hard to implement an algorithm that can take the residue modulo hype, and I wonder why it would be desirable to do so. Most of shows benefit from hype, but to quantify exactly how much this counts into the final score seems very difficult, as it is just one of the components of the subjective appreciation of a piece of art (or rather craft here). Furthermore, popular successes also attract salty individuals who will downvote series for the sake of contradiction and proof of self-independence. Although they are not as many as the previous group, an algorithm should also deal with them, right?

In a word, I do not really think that there is a good way to make scores more "objective" since personal ratings differ a lot. Therefore, the votes should be taken equally into account unless one could find a good theory to explain what it an acceptable vote and what is not.

Edit: @DomineLkira Sorry for the double refutation, I was writing my message at the same time so that yours did not appear.




Yeah i guess, i mean i dont really have issue with this system, but in due time every raid dissipates and hype goes down. look no further than part 5 when it was announced and where it is now.
 
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Danpmss said:
coreynj said:


That's where you're wrong. It did actually take the #1 spot for a brief moment.



Isn't this screenshot fake?

I was F5-ing the top page every 30 seconds after it reached 80k members up to when it held 9,21 with 100k+ and didn't see this happening at all.

This might be form nux's video because he did pop that up for a second.
take his reputability as you may.
 
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Dogemy said:
Danpmss said:


Isn't this screenshot fake?

I was F5-ing the top page every 30 seconds after it reached 80k members up to when it held 9,21 with 100k+ and didn't see this happening at all.

This might be form nux's video because he did pop that up for a second.
take his reputability as you may.
It's from a dozen different places. At the very least I saw it myself at a 9.25, but I didn't take a screenshot. I know for a fact that it passed it, if only for like an hour.
 
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coreynj said:
Dogemy said:

This might be form nux's video because he did pop that up for a second.
take his reputability as you may.
It's from a dozen different places. At the very least I saw it myself at a 9.25, but I didn't take a screenshot. I know for a fact that it passed it, if only for like an hour.


this whole thing wack, i think it did get to number one but what does it matter in the long run? it likely (without any intervention) was not gonna pierce the top 10, so the fact that it got to the 2nd is crazy.
we all just need to let hentai be hentai :(
 
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coreynj said:
Dogemy said:

This might be form nux's video because he did pop that up for a second.
take his reputability as you may.
It's from a dozen different places. At the very least I saw it myself at a 9.25, but I didn't take a screenshot. I know for a fact that it passed it, if only for like an hour.


I'm guessing this happening super early on then just after the video got uploaded and the raid started then? Because I was awake the entire night enjoying that ridiculous shitstorm it caused once I realized the score was close to a 9 out of nowhere, I wouldn't possibly have missed it being at first place for a minute, let alone an hour.
 
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Dogemy said:
coreynj said:
It's from a dozen different places. At the very least I saw it myself at a 9.25, but I didn't take a screenshot. I know for a fact that it passed it, if only for like an hour.


this whole thing wack, i think it did get to number one but what does it matter in the long run? it likely (without any intervention) was not gonna pierce the top 10, so the fact that it got to the 2nd is crazy.
we all just need to let hentai be hentai :(


Some hentai are worth of praise, just look at the holy dominance in market shares of otaku consumism a porn game like Fate has nowadays. It has a reason, and it's not just because it had memetically bad long sex scenes on it (I THINK!)

Ishuzoku Reviewers may have a lot of explicit sexual content, but it's a great and well executed ecchi comedy with clever humor and imaginative plotlines. For a show with the entire premise being based on reviewing sexual life with different species, that's a shiny achievement, as it is literally its main element (things could easily have gone very wrong in absolute trash levels of terrible).
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Dogemy said:
Danpmss said:


Isn't this screenshot fake?

I was F5-ing the top page every 30 seconds after it reached 80k members up to when it held 9,21 with 100k+ and didn't see this happening at all.

This might be form nux's video because he did pop that up for a second.
take his reputability as you may.
yea this is a fake image created by someone in nuxs twitter comments there was a guy in one of the threads that proved it was fake the highest IR actually got was 9.21 to FMAB 9.22 then it started dropping
 
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