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Feb 9, 2020 2:50 PM

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Final chapter I guess. It's nice they were able to meet up and start fresh in the end.

Feb 9, 2020 10:11 PM

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It was okay overall but it all ended a little too fast for me.

Aug 16, 2021 5:55 AM

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An amazing dramatic romance from Kudou Makoto. 8/10.

I would have liked a clearer comprehensive closure to Kaoru's mom, Senmitsu and Reika, with an explanation of logic to how they solved their issues, but even though fairly short of a story, it was very well executed in its foundation of the protagonist, Kaoru's circumstance.

The sad reality of Kaoru continuing to live as his sister Kaede for his mother's sanity who cherished Kaede for losing her firstborn in a miscarriage without caring for Kaoru and being happy that in her delusion Kaede lived over Kaoru is tragic.
The later second tragedy of realizing that his best friend Senmitsu was mostly present for Kaoru for his obsessive traumatic love for Kaede in who he sees in Kaoru is sick. Along with Reika's troubled manipulation of wanting to own Saotome for believing she can be the only own who can accept her as a child who was trapped in her parent's expectations ... to the point of shoving Kaoru down stairs to kill him out of jealousy.

Since Reika was the first plot introduction of the story in how she's Kaoru's arguable crush as a fan of hers, to later being her wing-man to help her get close to Saotome, a reveal of some kind of apology to Kaoru would have been appreciated aside from just an explanation of how she became sane after having her parents care for her since being depressed on losing her modeling career from attempting to kill Kaoru.
Kaoru's dad was a little odd, but I guess a busy working but caring father even though barely present is realistic. Senmitsu simply looking for jobs, single, without any other info of him I guess is acceptable if we're thought to not care for him for his cruelty, but I think some kind of closure would have been nice, even though not necessary since it feels proper that Kaoru completely rid himself of them, along with his mother, even though there's no mention of if she feels any remorse.

But as Kaoru states himself, even though he isn't sure he did the right thing in disregarding everyone, he believes he that he'd be still stuck in their toxicity if he had stayed, which feels right, even to myself in my own opinion.

The other plot of Saotome's abusive father and how Kaoru saved her was a great advancement to the story and how the end later developed to its climax of Kaoru deciding to move on to live his own life out of his mother, Reika and Senmitsu's issues.

Saotome with beautiful long hair later finding him 2 years later is a beautiful ending, with Kaoru discussing that even though he's dettached himself from everyone else, he keeps contact with his father to know of his mother's condition, which Saotome then tells him that if anything bad happens afterwards, they can cry together ... as if to say that she'll stay by his side if something dramatic happens with his mother or anything else.

Beautiful.

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Upon rereading this, Kudou Makoto's debut manga remains a great romance drama.
Unfortunately, the scanlation is very flawed in translation. I forgot how awful it was, so it's difficult to comprehend the scenes meaning or dialogues from what the story is truly trying to portray in its messages.

The complex origin to each character's trauma to how they live today is astounding.
From a mother who had a miscarriage of her firstborn daughter, to later birthing twins, one female and the other male... so when the daughter died, she could not accept that her "daughter" Kaede (the first born) "died again".
To, the son, Kaoru, who impersonated and dressed as his older sister for 10 years to soothe the sanity of his mother, and because she neglected him as himself.
Along with his childhood best friend, Senmitsu, who had an unrequited love for the sister at the age of 8... and since that trauma of leaving them be for a moment, to her sudden death... could not accept it, and tracked Kaoru's phone through GPS marked as Kaede for years.
As for Chiaki, she became a tomboy by training judo, and to embody power so that she can protect her mother against her abusive father.

To finally, the "antagonist" of the story, Reika.
Her plot point as the main factor to progress the story is a bit odd in hindsight.
She's a model who's been neglected by her parents since childhood, and was left independent successfully.
So, she developed attachment issues, where she never feels accepted or understood, and bisexually fills that pain with the company of men or women.
Who she wants the most happens to be Chiaki.
A girl who protected her from an ex who wanted to blackmail her.
She fell in love with Chiaki because she was saved without judgement or knowledge of who Reika was. She just genuinely saved her.

... What's a little questionable, is why didn't she ever approach Chiaki herself, instead of using Kaoru who recently met Chiaki, and also learned that Reika was bi.
Chiaki is certainly reserved, and not a lesbian, but it's still odd, wondering logically why such a confident model barely tried on her own directly.
Maybe poor translation made me lose sign of that.
Otherwise, some insight would have been nice.
Although, as weird as that is, it's the "circumstance" that starts the main plot of the story.

... It's also somewhat difficult to accept how Chiaki met Reika after attempting to kill Kaoru, and even had her help with makeup before meeting Kaoru, but whatever. I don't mind that too much.
It's just that the brief insight of each character in the epilogue isn't very satisfying because it's a little lackluster.

Aside from that, Kaoru's father is another odd character.
His excuse is that he's been busy with work... but even though he's wished to confront his wife about it... he believes in letting people control their own life.
So, he decides that his son choose decide whether he continues to impersonate Kaede for his mother or not.
For 10 years, this piece of shit father let his son and wife live a lie, after Kaoru saw the death of his sister in front of his eyes.

.. It's unclear what the true interpretation of Kaede's death is supposed to be due to poor translation...
but I wonder exactly why does Kaoru feel guilty.
It almost seems like he "let" her fall out of fear and shock, or he just couldn't save her.

I think those are my only nitpicks, aside from whatever else I pinpointed in my original breakdown.
Nonetheless, even with some things being lackluster, it is great.

The manga is short, thus somewhat rushed in the bond of Kaoru and Chiaki, but nonetheless, it's well done, even if the pacing could have been a bit longer in showing their few weeks studying and hanging out.
A span of months would be more rational in reality, since seemingly less than a month is a bit too fast.
Although, maybe the manga states a longer time frame that I'm unaware of from poor translation.
Nonetheless, pacing-wise, more scenes of their time together would look better.

waalex11Sep 4, 2023 4:47 PM

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