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Feb 1, 2020 8:45 PM
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Loved this episode. They really pulled it off considering how much content they were able to squeeze out of the manga. I’m kinda sad that they did not adapt the mini chapter of the manga which consist of skits but hey, Maybe we’ll get an ova for it.
 
Feb 1, 2020 9:03 PM

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I just want for the 3 of them to meet and why couldn't she use that big skeleton to defeat Nanase it's like a Susano.
 
 
Feb 1, 2020 9:10 PM

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I gotta say, that the plot or story of this series is kind of boring to me....

BUT, the i love the way they made their characters...

I liked some Yokais....

I like the humor and expressions of Kotoko...

The way Kurou treats/interact with Kotoko...

And my fav character of the series... is clearly Saki Yumihara.

PS: Also Oppai Nanase.
Nyanpasu! ... [ Ara Ara ] [ Waifus ]

 
Feb 1, 2020 10:07 PM

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What's up with that song lol
 
Feb 1, 2020 10:29 PM
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More importantly, Saki Yumihara is absolutely hot and finally starred in an episode.


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Feb 1, 2020 10:30 PM

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What's up with that song lol


"Sorry. I sorta pulled the trigger, tee-hee!" had me in tears lol.

I'm a fan so far, the character interactions in this series are great.

I typically prefer my mystery series to leave some breadcrumbs to the solution for the audience so I'm interested to see what the resolution ends up being and if the series provided enough context for us to have gotten there without just spitballing random possibilities.
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Feb 1, 2020 10:41 PM

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I like this series week by week. Kotoko and Saki are so funny and especially kuro's face is so intimidate at end episode make me impressed.
 
Feb 1, 2020 11:00 PM

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JGordonson said:
LeviathanTheEsp said:
What's up with that song lol


"Sorry. I sorta pulled the trigger, tee-hee!" had me in tears lol.

I'm a fan so far, the character interactions in this series are great.

I typically prefer my mystery series to leave some breadcrumbs to the solution for the audience so I'm interested to see what the resolution ends up being and if the series provided enough context for us to have gotten there without just spitballing random possibilities.


Yeah, everything in this series is very enjoyable for me, but that song just made my day lol.
 
Feb 2, 2020 12:18 AM

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I wonder what is the origin of that giant skeleton

 
 
Feb 2, 2020 1:13 AM

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Kotoko best troll 2020
 
 
Feb 2, 2020 1:54 AM
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JGordonson said:
LeviathanTheEsp said:
What's up with that song lol


"Sorry. I sorta pulled the trigger, tee-hee!" had me in tears lol.

I'm a fan so far, the character interactions in this series are great.

I typically prefer my mystery series to leave some breadcrumbs to the solution for the audience so I'm interested to see what the resolution ends up being and if the series provided enough context for us to have gotten there without just spitballing random possibilities.


What exactly is the mystery of this arc right now though?
 
Feb 2, 2020 2:08 AM

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What exactly is the mystery of this arc right now though?


The most straight forward mystery is what drives Steel Lady Nanase. Why is she attacking people; why is she in that outfit?

Everything about Steel Lady Nanase and the logical outcome of a vengeful spirit of the actual Nanase seem at odds given the information presented and the lack of intelligence, will, or even anger that Kotoko feels from the entity they keep encountering. To quote Kotoko, she feels like "a puppet."

Plus, the fact that someone was able to make that painting of Steel Lady on that website is odd. It hasn't been expounded upon yet but I felt like Kotoko was almost implying that Steel Lady was MADE in that image as opposed to some lucky individual getting a clear look at her by chance, escaping, and perfectly painting the sight.

Then there's the question of what involvement Nanase's sister might have had in this, the truth behind Nanase's father's death, and now why Kuro has suddenly shown up and is playing an active role.
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Feb 2, 2020 3:51 AM
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Dadangdut33 said:
I wonder what is the origin of that giant skeleton


Yokai name is 'Gashadokuro'. Immediately recognized it because it was also a boss in Nioh (video game).
 
Feb 2, 2020 4:15 AM

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4 words: Spooky Scary Colossal Titan
 
Feb 2, 2020 5:25 AM

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nowigen said:
Dadangdut33 said:
I wonder what is the origin of that giant skeleton


Yokai name is 'Gashadokuro'. Immediately recognized it because it was also a boss in Nioh (video game).


It also appears in Pom Poko from Studio Ghibli. They are a very notorious and dangerous type of youkai BTW. Their name means "starving skeleton" and they eat people.
 
Feb 2, 2020 6:03 AM

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Saki is so fcking hot!!!
Kotoko is a damn troll lol.
The banters and how this handles the mystery crime thing with yokai shit is intriguing.
Last part was hype af when they skipped the ed song and gave one good cliffhanger.

Now I cant wait how this all ends up and how the banters will go now that theres 3 of them.
 
Feb 2, 2020 6:30 AM

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I'm glad Kotoko and Saki are getting along, couldn't help but giggle at Kotoko's comments about Saki to the youkais, not to mention the several Kotoko faces we got to see this time. Also the website is actually up https://www.kojin7se.com/ - Karin's breasts are actually quite big lol

 
Feb 2, 2020 7:09 AM
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Mercuri said:
I just want for the 3 of them to meet and why couldn't she use that big skeleton to defeat Nanase it's like a Susano.


Ok explain. The reason the skeleton wasn’t used was because it was very fragile. Even a weak punch can break a large chunk of its bones. It was explained in the manga, I just think they forgot to add it in the anime lol.
 
Feb 2, 2020 9:29 AM

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Saki's hot as fuck but it's super boring watching these two argue about a guy who is nowhere to be seen.

Nanase's drama looks like it would make a great watch (maybe better than this). Spin-off when? Also seems weird to me that they're ruling out an idol's ghost's desire to be in the spotlight. Like if the show wants us to understand her as not simply a spirit, they could do it in a way that doesn't make the characters look like idiots. This seems like exactly what a cult idol with an attitude would do lol. Her life was already basically an urban legend so it's weird that they think it's so far off the mark.
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Feb 2, 2020 9:57 AM
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Okay , Saki's character and visuals is wasted tbh in this story whether it's in the manga or the anime.. but I still stan Iwanaga-sama..

Can't wait to see how they portray Rikka. By the pace this anime is going it seems that they're only covering Steel Lady Nanase arc.. in hope for a second season by next year assuming the story progresses more in the manga
 
 
Feb 2, 2020 10:39 AM

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Pretty enjoyable. I'm glad this series is moving away from the snooze fest that ep 2 was. It's far better this way.
 
Feb 2, 2020 10:50 AM

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Welp there gonna be more on that Steel Lady Nanase arc.....
 
Feb 2, 2020 11:37 AM

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Hmmm, I have a feeling that Nanase isn't actually dead and that Steel Lady Nanase is actually her older sister who is the actual sibling that died. I mean, the police have no evidence that the body they found was definitely Nanase after all!

I'm so frickin' happy that Kuro is back! Things are gonna get pretty interesting with him being back since Saki has been dragged into this mess!
 
Feb 2, 2020 11:44 AM
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FlamepriesT said:
Pretty enjoyable. I'm glad this series is moving away from the snooze fest that ep 2 was. It's far better this way.


Don’t have high hopes because like the 2rd episode. The steel lady nanase arc will also have a lot of dialogue. Much more than the 2rd episode so keep that in mind mate.
 
Feb 2, 2020 11:44 AM

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Calling it now, there's some kind of switcheroo gone on between the Nanase sisters: the destruction of the face and how the two look so similar leaves plenty of room for that possibility, and it's a perfect way for Nanase to escape the scandal surrounding her. That aside, the interactions between Kotoko and Saki were pretty entertaining again.
 
Feb 2, 2020 12:41 PM

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"I don't think a priestess can be deflowered..." - wait, after everything that's been said, this is the one thing you decide to comment on? :D

That's some impressive transportation she has... I wonder how it would look to someone who can't see this kind of beings, though.

That drama is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen...

Ah, but of course Kuro would be there as well.
 
Feb 2, 2020 12:43 PM

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ZKisara said:
FlamepriesT said:
Pretty enjoyable. I'm glad this series is moving away from the snooze fest that ep 2 was. It's far better this way.


Don’t have high hopes because like the 2rd episode. The steel lady nanase arc will also have a lot of dialogue. Much more than the 2rd episode so keep that in mind mate.

I don't have a problem with dialogue. Katanagatari is one of my favorite series. It all depends on the quality of the dialogue.
 
Feb 2, 2020 2:24 PM
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The relation between Saki and Kotoko san is great
 
Feb 2, 2020 3:16 PM

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The romance banter between Kotoko and Saki is still funny, though the joke kinda wears off its novelty soon once the topic of human and Youkai surface.

Getting back on topic on Steel Lady Nanase, both humans and Youkai are in fear of her, and to deal with it, only can interfere for now in the Youkai space while Saki can only investigate from the usual police case files' perspective of the deceased idol (Nanase Karin) before her demise.

The website about her IS REAL, even if at a fictional level. Otherwise, it's family conflict of rumours and speculations that don't seem to slow down, and her eventual accidental death by a steel beam. On the subject of her sister Hatsumi, nothing of significance is known yet.

To expect Kuro to face her head-on after a long disappearance seems wilfully appropriately timed, so the Steel Lady Nanase arc will continue on. Will Kuro's Youkai-negating properties fend her off, time will tell next episode.
 
 
Feb 2, 2020 3:35 PM

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Ok, I'm gonna be honest, I found the first 2 episodes kinda boring, but now, now I'm starting to like this, glad I decided to keep watching!
 
 
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This show is actually interesting. It's mystery but not too confusing like Pet and ID Invaded. It's like the perfect blend of hiding information from the viewer and showing it so we are never in a state where we're like "???"

☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

So whenever you ask me again, how I feel.
Please remember my answer is you.

 
Feb 2, 2020 6:37 PM
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The Yokai are all so cute and creative in this show!
 
Feb 2, 2020 7:59 PM

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I had a hunch that Nanase probably a Tulpa
 
Feb 2, 2020 8:24 PM

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Kotoko troll of the year. I simply loved how natural her character is. I also have to give props to Saki's design. I mean, really. While everything now is all about big eyes and puffy cheeks, Saki really gives a young adult's beauty vibe out of her.
 
Feb 2, 2020 11:18 PM

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Saki’s story made me think that somehow, Nanase is not something dead, but alive, like, if the girl faked her death and now appear like that, but her property to scare out youkais wouldn’t have sense. And Kurou appeared. The source of Nanase is the painting then, not Nanase’s death.
 
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Kotoko. Calm, cute and smart. However, above all else, she's one massive troll, and for that reason, I already love her! XD

I found the dialogue banter between Kotoko and Saki to be informative, but also damn entertaining. Kotoko, bless her, insists that she's dating Kuro, but her pictures of evidence clearly shows that she's just delusional and in denial. Still, seeing her trying to make her point was cute, though. =3

Saki did surprise me with her response after all of the banter and talking about Nanase by saying "I don't think a priestess can be deflowered..." That also made me burst out laughing.

Both Saki and Kotoko part ways for the time being, but it's good to see them trying to get closer to finding out on how to deal with Nanase. Whether she's actually dead or alive and also the mention about her sister was intriguing. Kotoko knows that she needs the help of Saki for this if she's going to make any progress in taking down Saki, but by her surprise, Kuro appears to be fighting her, but I don't think he can win this fight without some help.

Still, at least this'll set up an interesting reunion between Kuro and Saki. That's something I'm definitely looking forward to, especially if Kotoko goes into troll mode again! =D

Great episode overall and Saki's tank-top/small shorts casual outfit is smoking hot. =3
 
Feb 3, 2020 3:02 AM
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Dadangdut33 said:
I wonder what is the origin of that giant skeleton



I was wondering why that expression sounds familiar , but now I remember.

Even their personalities are similar.
 
Feb 3, 2020 4:55 AM
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cool episode once again from In/Spectre.

liked the idea of having two female characters who have both loved the same guy. Creates an interesting dynamic.

I find it funny how it's jumped two years and Kurou-san and Kotoko-chan haven't become a real couple yet, or even started to become friendly to each other.

Steel Lady Nanase's opening is unironically better than some anime airing right now.

I think it's possible that Nanase faked her death somehow to get away from the press, as she didn't have an identifiable body, only the ID on the body made them connect it to her (and the appearance of course).

looking forward to next week!
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This show is actually interesting. It's mystery but not too confusing like Pet and ID Invaded. It's like the perfect blend of hiding information from the viewer and showing it so we are never in a state where we're like "???"


yeah,
I would agree. It's a mystery with a more light hearted tone and an amusing, quirky atmosphere.
 
 
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Kotoko. Calm, cute and smart. However, above all else, she's one massive troll, and for that reason, I already love her! XD

I found the dialogue banter between Kotoko and Saki to be informative, but also damn entertaining. Kotoko, bless her, insists that she's dating Kuro, but her pictures of evidence clearly shows that she's just delusional and in denial. Still, seeing her trying to make her point was cute, though. =3

Saki did surprise me with her response after all of the banter and talking about Nanase by saying "I don't think a priestess can be deflowered..." That also made me burst out laughing.

Both Saki and Kotoko part ways for the time being, but it's good to see them trying to get closer to finding out on how to deal with Nanase. Whether she's actually dead or alive and also the mention about her sister was intriguing. Kotoko knows that she needs the help of Saki for this if she's going to make any progress in taking down Saki, but by her surprise, Kuro appears to be fighting her, but I don't think he can win this fight without some help.

Still, at least this'll set up an interesting reunion between Kuro and Saki. That's something I'm definitely looking forward to, especially if Kotoko goes into troll mode again! =D

Great episode overall and Saki's tank-top/small shorts casual outfit is smoking hot. =3


Kotoko is definitely a contender for best girl of this season.
 
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WHAT IN TARNATION DIED TO CREATE THAT SKELETON?!!?!?
 
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WHAT IN TARNATION DIED TO CREATE THAT SKELETON?!!?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gashadokuro
 
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Finally got a chance to watch this today, and I'm pretty content with what happened. This episode actually contains the entirety of Chapter 3 of the manga, and around the first third of the 4th chapter.

Also, I've seen some of the theories in this thread, and they're kinda interesting, and that kind of thinking is good. If I remember correctly, they'll be going through different theories in order to stop Steel Beam Nanase, and they're gonna ask a lot of questions.

Pretty excited for the next episode. Looks like they'll finally explain both what Steel Beam Nanase is and what Kuro has become? Or maybe they'll explain the latter in a future episode.
 
Feb 3, 2020 8:44 AM

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Saki’s story made me think that somehow, Nanase is not something dead, but alive, like, if the girl faked her death and now appear like that, but her property to scare out youkais wouldn’t have sense. And Kurou appeared. The source of Nanase is the painting then, not Nanase’s death.
That's what I had in mind as well. Nanase's body was never confirmed, only her belongings. I have watched too many mystery anime where it's pretty obvious when someone isn't actually dead lol.

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J891319 said:
WHAT IN TARNATION DIED TO CREATE THAT SKELETON?!!?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gashadokuro


that makes sense. thanks
 
 
Feb 3, 2020 9:20 PM

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Kotoko and her troll faces lmao

Saki is beautiful

We got another interesting mystery now. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Kurou' s abilities.
 
Feb 4, 2020 12:30 AM

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I love the dynamics shown between the characters in this show. It seems to be focussing on the nuances within their overlapping arcs.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?


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Feb 4, 2020 6:35 AM

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This was the kind of episode that would have probably been just fine if the torrent of exposition had all come organically, particularly if it had come from the result of going around, talking to people and investigating like an actual procedural. It did none of those things. Hell, I'm not sure Saki or Kotoko even left their chairs once the flashback exposition dump began and consumed the remaining two thirds of the episode.

It's a shame too because the back and forth between them at the start wasn't bad. Saki plays a much better straight man in just plain not putting up with Kotoko's smarmy snark than most anime characters do. But that's abandoned a third of the way into the episode and all the pertinent information is beamed directly into their heads from the internet, which is then conveyed in ten straight minutes of infodump, made more egregious by literally stumbling over the boyfriend fighting the boob ghost at the end of the episode. All that infodumping wasn't even leading them to finding it or the like.
 
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This was the kind of episode that would have probably been just fine if the torrent of exposition had all come organically, particularly if it had come from the result of going around, talking to people and investigating like an actual procedural. It did none of those things. Hell, I'm not sure Saki or Kotoko even left their chairs once the flashback exposition dump began and consumed the remaining two thirds of the episode.

It's a shame too because the back and forth between them at the start wasn't bad. Saki plays a much better straight man in just plain not putting up with Kotoko's smarmy snark than most anime characters do. But that's abandoned a third of the way into the episode and all the pertinent information is beamed directly into their heads from the internet, which is then conveyed in ten straight minutes of infodump, made more egregious by literally stumbling over the boyfriend fighting the boob ghost at the end of the episode. All that infodumping wasn't even leading them to finding it or the like.


Oh trust me. All that info is very critical
 
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Nice episode and the website and Twitter was also a pleasant surprise! feeling like real especially the website!


 
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