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Jan 27, 2:47 PM

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shubh_jain_2 said:
Well this was interesting, but I can't figure out the logic, why is she so sure?? Maybe the subs missed on some of the conversation's subtelity!!


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I was sure she was involved in some way in this because how she reacted to Hondomachi's head wound and bleeding, it was clear it wasn't her first time. And maybe it was just my imagination but I think Hondomachi also started connecting dots after this moment because how her question became more "personal".
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Jan 27, 3:31 PM

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Hondomachi best girl.

It's surprising how this show is getting better with each new episode.
 
Jan 27, 3:33 PM

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Wow, I'm impressed with myself for actually saying last episode that Kazuto wasn't the graver but he was helping someone with it.

It isn't true at all, since he is the one that puts the people in the boxes but since he has braindamage and the girl is probably controlling him and choosing the victims she is most likely the one that wins the title the graver.
 
Jan 27, 8:28 PM

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Such interesting turn of events at the end with that Inami girl being the "actual" Gravedigger... or the mastermind behind the deaths, at least. Hondoumachi really showed some nice investigation skills with her deductions. She's more competent than I thought, which is nice.

OK so leaving the incompetent SWAT team aside, this was another entertaining episode. And though there wasn't much Sakaido this time, I really enjoyed the focus Hondoumachi received.

 
Jan 27, 11:50 PM

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Babylon was such a disappointment thank god for this, dark horse of the season, still won't be aots coz duh Ishuzoku is auto aots

Hondomachi is hawwwwt
 
Jan 28, 1:20 AM

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I rewatched the interrogation scene a couple times to try to pick up on the things that our hole-y detective picked up on to determine the real gravedigger, but beyond her general unsettling demeanour and her apparent interest in the hole in her head I didn’t pick up on much. I mean, I personally would probably avoid looking at a wound like that since I’m a bit jittery with blood, but some people I’m sure might find it hard not to look at the big hole in her head. I mean, it’s a big hole in someone’s head.

The deduction feels like a stretch, but this show has clarified one or two things after-the-fact before, so maybe we’ll hear more of the reasoning behind the accusation next week (though it’d be nice to have all the needed info now). That said, this show hasn’t been afraid of letting our heroes make incorrect deductions, so she might be correct to suspect her, but wrong on the details.

My theory? She literally saw the guy hiding in the hallway and let on that she hadn’t in order to press the woman to find out how she might be involved, if at all.

A wilder theory I have is that drilling the hole in the head allows people to sort of “sense” the intent to kill from those particle-whatevers passing directly into the brain. The crazy hole-drilling guy talked about needing that cool breeze in the head or there could be trouble, perhaps without that breeze, the particles get trapped in the brain and effect the person mentally. If so, I’d fear a bit for our favourite 23-year-old detective.
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Jan 28, 5:42 AM

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FuyuMinato said:
I rewatched the interrogation scene a couple times to try to pick up on the things that our hole-y detective picked up on to determine the real gravedigger, but beyond her general unsettling demeanour and her apparent interest in the hole in her head I didn’t pick up on much. I mean, I personally would probably avoid looking at a wound like that since I’m a bit jittery with blood, but some people I’m sure might find it hard not to look at the big hole in her head. I mean, it’s a big hole in someone’s head.


Looking at someone wound isn't completely strange but she basically immediately wanted to clean Hondomachi wound after seeing blood and this is really strange.
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- Hige Wo Soru. Soshite Joshikosei Wo Hirou.
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Jan 28, 7:52 AM
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Idk, I’d want someone I’m having a conversation with to wipe his/her wound if it’s visibly bleeding...... I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable continuing the conversation in such a state.
 
Jan 28, 8:22 AM
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I think the detective picked up on the fact that she pocketed her bloody tissue.
A normal person might have set it down or threw it away. It might be strange to keep someones bloody tissue in your sweater.
And earlier we saw Inami's eyes in the victim. So Kazuta sees Inami as a victim of sorts.

Plus the creepy soundtrack during the interview, lol

I agree that walking around with a bloody hole in your head is not normal either, if it can easily bleed doctors would have it covered or patched up.
Maybe our detective used it as bait or something. Kind of a stretch perhaps.

Pretty good Episode, I hope to see a lot more action scenes! :)
 
Jan 28, 2:38 PM
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I didn’t expect to like this show as much as I do now tbh I love how smart most of the characters are! Really curious to see how the whole john walker thing develops...
 
Jan 28, 7:42 PM
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Sakaido's detective work is just so goofy sometimes.....how he gonna do this whole deduction just to look under Kaeru and find the evidence they needed (-_-).....she was literally floating at like waist level....you expect us to think he couldn't see what was under her when he was walking ito the room?

When Sakaido drops a pencil on the floor when he's at a desk is he like "accounting for the angle the pencil left my hand at and the delay between the sound of the pencil hitting the ground and the last sound it made as it was rolling on the ground, I believe that the initial velocity of the pencil was somewhere close to 1.37 m/s. And seeing how the pencil left my hand rolling in a net counter-clockwise motion, then all I have to do is look under the desk about 2 feet from my foot at about 19.3 degrees west of north" *looks under desk and instantly finds pencil he dropped.....*

Tbh they really coulda tried harder with the mystery this episode.....just seemed like they took a total non-mystery and made it a mystery just to fit the mystery quota for the episode.....
 
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It's about time Hondoumachi proved her worth as a detective. Her deduction scene was the real highlight of the episode.
 
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Daniel_Naumov said:
shubh_jain_2 said:
Well this was interesting, but I can't figure out the logic, why is she so sure?? Maybe the subs missed on some of the conversation's subtelity!!

They really did not. The girl was acting "strange" and out-of-place, her obsession with the wound was clear and she did nothing to hide it.


There is no logic, nothing Hondomachi asked her yielded any kind of answer that even subtly hinted to her being a killer. 0% of the interactions or conversations would have led a sane person to the conclusion that she was the killer. Anybody would have a hard time ignoring a giant fucking hole in somebody's head. You don't have to be a fucking sadist to have a hard time ignoring that. Most normal people have to fight the urge to give attention to people in public they see who have obvious injures or disabilities because we all have a biological inkling to give attention to things that are outside the norm.

That whole interrogation was just more lazy writing where the writers don't know how to write a good mystery so they just throw some random deductions like stares at injury-->sadist-->serial killer which don't represent ANY kind of logical deduction. Like even if it wasn't what I mentioned earlier, how do they not know that she doesn't have a kink or something??? Just because she's a sadist she has to be the killer? And why would Hondomachi even make such a jump when they have such an obviously guilt suspect already being pursued?

Makes literally no fucking sense. The writers just pulled that scene out of their asses to create an unnecessary twist to make the arc longer and make Hondomachi seem smart for catching the real killer by just pulling a conviction out of her ass based on negligible details.
 
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They really did not. The girl was acting "strange" and out-of-place, her obsession with the wound was clear and she did nothing to hide it.


There is no logic, nothing Hondomachi asked her yielded any kind of answer that even subtly hinted to her being a killer. 0% of the interactions or conversations would have led a sane person to the conclusion that she was the killer. Anybody would have a hard time ignoring a giant fucking hole in somebody's head. You don't have to be a fucking sadist to have a hard time ignoring that. Most normal people have to fight the urge to give attention to people in public they see who have obvious injures or disabilities because we all have a biological inkling to give attention to things that are outside the norm.

That whole interrogation was just more lazy writing where the writers don't know how to write a good mystery so they just throw some random deductions like stares at injury-->sadist-->serial killer which don't represent ANY kind of logical deduction. Like even if it wasn't what I mentioned earlier, how do they not know that she doesn't have a kink or something??? Just because she's a sadist she has to be the killer? And why would Hondomachi even make such a jump when they have such an obviously guilt suspect already being pursued?

Makes literally no fucking sense. The writers just pulled that scene out of their asses to create an unnecessary twist to make the arc longer and make Hondomachi seem smart for catching the real killer by just pulling a conviction out of her ass based on negligible details.

You may deny behavioural assessment and psychological deductions based on it however you want, whether you have knowledge of it or not. Naturally, it will not remove them from the legit investigative methods neither from theory nor from practice.
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Daniel_Naumov said:
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There is no logic, nothing Hondomachi asked her yielded any kind of answer that even subtly hinted to her being a killer. 0% of the interactions or conversations would have led a sane person to the conclusion that she was the killer. Anybody would have a hard time ignoring a giant fucking hole in somebody's head. You don't have to be a fucking sadist to have a hard time ignoring that. Most normal people have to fight the urge to give attention to people in public they see who have obvious injures or disabilities because we all have a biological inkling to give attention to things that are outside the norm.

That whole interrogation was just more lazy writing where the writers don't know how to write a good mystery so they just throw some random deductions like stares at injury-->sadist-->serial killer which don't represent ANY kind of logical deduction. Like even if it wasn't what I mentioned earlier, how do they not know that she doesn't have a kink or something??? Just because she's a sadist she has to be the killer? And why would Hondomachi even make such a jump when they have such an obviously guilt suspect already being pursued?

Makes literally no fucking sense. The writers just pulled that scene out of their asses to create an unnecessary twist to make the arc longer and make Hondomachi seem smart for catching the real killer by just pulling a conviction out of her ass based on negligible details.

You may deny behavioural assessment and psychological deductions based on it however you want, whether you have knowledge of it or not. Naturally, it will not remove them from the legit investigative methods neither from theory nor from practice.


I will not deny that they are legitimate investigation methods, but they serve to highlight red flags if anything, not to serve as evidence suitable to convict a random person of murder and pull a gun on them. There are dozens of different interpretations of that woman's behavior, the least likely of which is that she is the murderer. Especially when they have AN ACTUAL GUILTY SUSPECT already. They forced that conclusion because they wanted to have a twist, and just used subtle shit like her behavioral cues to justify it. If you are questioned by the police in relation to a suspect, and the police just think you come off as weird, they might mark you as another potential suspect so they can get permission to search you for ACTUAL EVIDENCE, but in no realistic scenario would they ever pull a gun on you and call you the killer. That shit would loose you your badge and make you look like an idiot, but the show plays it of as "oh, she's just super smart." Look at Babylon for instance, if you ever watched that, where a politician was very obviously being odd and pandering to questionable morals in an effort to cause social conflict, but half the show is spent searching for ways to convict him because aside from being weird there is nothing to convict him on. That is actual good police writing because it's realistic.

I don't understand why everyone fights tooth and nail to defend this show's obviously lackluster and strung together writing. The people working on this show are not "bad" but a good amount of them are newbies to the industry who have never written anything like this, and it shows. The writer in particular only has one other work to his name and it's a fantasy series about a girl who brushes dragons' teeth, and now the guy jumps to writing a sci-fi police drama? It is clear that this writer excels at world building and creativity, but not at the kind of writing that is necessary to make a good police mystery series like this, and it shows really hard.
 
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

You may deny behavioural assessment and psychological deductions based on it however you want, whether you have knowledge of it or not. Naturally, it will not remove them from the legit investigative methods neither from theory nor from practice.


I will not deny that they are legitimate investigation methods, but they serve to highlight red flags if anything, not to serve as evidence suitable to convict a random person of murder and pull a gun on them. There are dozens of different interpretations of that woman's behavior, the least likely of which is that she is the murderer. Especially when they have AN ACTUAL GUILTY SUSPECT already. They forced that conclusion because they wanted to have a twist, and just used subtle shit like her behavioral cues to justify it. If you are questioned by the police in relation to a suspect, and the police just think you come off as weird, they might mark you as another potential suspect so they can get permission to search you for ACTUAL EVIDENCE, but in no realistic scenario would they ever pull a gun on you and call you the killer. That shit would loose you your badge and make you look like an idiot, but the show plays it of as "oh, she's just super smart." Look at Babylon for instance, if you ever watched that, where a politician was very obviously being odd and pandering to questionable morals in an effort to cause social conflict, but half the show is spent searching for ways to convict him because aside from being weird there is nothing to convict him on. That is actual good police writing because it's realistic.

I don't understand why everyone fights tooth and nail to defend this show's obviously lackluster and strung together writing. The people working on this show are not "bad" but a good amount of them are newbies to the industry who have never written anything like this, and it shows. The writer in particular only has one other work to his name and it's a fantasy series about a girl who brushes dragons' teeth, and now the guy jumps to writing a sci-fi police drama? It is clear that this writer excels at world building and creativity, but not at the kind of writing that is necessary to make a good police mystery series like this, and it shows really hard.

They methods in question were used to "force" the unhinged criminal to reveal herself, not as evidence against her.

Also please never bring Babylon up near me. Anything that happened there turned out to be a fantasy without concrete meaning from the author. He failed to even conclude the series and left it to the viewer. So far this series shines in comparison to what Babylon had become.
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Welp, Hondomachi may be one step closer to figuring out the Perforator (or the Gravedigger RATHER) after that kiss from Haruka Kazuta, whom she believes that he's the Gravedigger. The pursuit for the culprit endangers on the urge to kill for love, and to love people is to kill them. "When Wires Cross" is the best way to put it.

With that in mind, Sakaido dives into Haruka Kazuta's psyche of his Id-Well, and finding Kaeru once again in the same (but different) dead, bloodied state indicates the victims and warrants arrest (in the outside world). However, the mystery within takes a turn when the mysterious John Walker comes up and savages Haruka in pieces, the mystery Perforator in action.

In the real world, Haruka's home rigged with gasoline DEFINITELY gives off the fact that Haruka is NOT the Gravedigger, BUT somebody close to him...and when Hondomachi was interrogating Nahoshi Inami, she certainly gives off the vibe that she is the mastermind behind it all, and yet Hondomachi by sheer wit, managed to pry her out while Haruka hides in the vicinity, waiting to kill for the pleasure of "loving her to death".

The "click-and-bait" switch this episode was well done, left me speechless and watching all the bantering going around with both Sakaido's "ID-Well" world and fusing together with the real world's crimes to solve using the minds/psyche of killers' intentions.

Not a masterpiece, but what a handiwork. The many puzzle pieces that were once disconnected, became a picture. Still very intrigued about this world and it's universe, which shows that this show's doing some fabulous work.
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Daniel_Naumov said:
SenpaiMars-Barz said:


I will not deny that they are legitimate investigation methods, but they serve to highlight red flags if anything, not to serve as evidence suitable to convict a random person of murder and pull a gun on them. There are dozens of different interpretations of that woman's behavior, the least likely of which is that she is the murderer. Especially when they have AN ACTUAL GUILTY SUSPECT already. They forced that conclusion because they wanted to have a twist, and just used subtle shit like her behavioral cues to justify it. If you are questioned by the police in relation to a suspect, and the police just think you come off as weird, they might mark you as another potential suspect so they can get permission to search you for ACTUAL EVIDENCE, but in no realistic scenario would they ever pull a gun on you and call you the killer. That shit would loose you your badge and make you look like an idiot, but the show plays it of as "oh, she's just super smart." Look at Babylon for instance, if you ever watched that, where a politician was very obviously being odd and pandering to questionable morals in an effort to cause social conflict, but half the show is spent searching for ways to convict him because aside from being weird there is nothing to convict him on. That is actual good police writing because it's realistic.

I don't understand why everyone fights tooth and nail to defend this show's obviously lackluster and strung together writing. The people working on this show are not "bad" but a good amount of them are newbies to the industry who have never written anything like this, and it shows. The writer in particular only has one other work to his name and it's a fantasy series about a girl who brushes dragons' teeth, and now the guy jumps to writing a sci-fi police drama? It is clear that this writer excels at world building and creativity, but not at the kind of writing that is necessary to make a good police mystery series like this, and it shows really hard.

They methods in question were used to "force" the unhinged criminal to reveal herself, not as evidence against her.

Also please never bring Babylon up near me. Anything that happened there turned out to be a fantasy without concrete meaning from the author. He failed to even conclude the series and left it to the viewer. So far this series shines in comparison to what Babylon had become.


Ok, if in the next episode Hondomachi comes out and says she only pulled the gun on her to put pressure on her to tryt to get her to confess, then that whole scene is ok in my book. But in the context of this episode literally nothing the woman said was a confession. I suppose we'll just have to see how this goes.

And I don't see why everyone has to rip on Babylon just cuz the ending was garbage. I openly admit that that was one of the worst endings I have ever seen, but the majority of the show was really solid so I at least chose to not tank my score for it just because of one bad episode. I hear from a lot of people too that the source material ended in a completely different way from the anime. No matter what anyone saws, the writing in Babylon (especially during the 1st half) was pretty great. THAT story was written by someone who actually knew how to write a detective story.
 
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

They methods in question were used to "force" the unhinged criminal to reveal herself, not as evidence against her.

Also please never bring Babylon up near me. Anything that happened there turned out to be a fantasy without concrete meaning from the author. He failed to even conclude the series and left it to the viewer. So far this series shines in comparison to what Babylon had become.


Ok, if in the next episode Hondomachi comes out and says she only pulled the gun on her to put pressure on her to tryt to get her to confess, then that whole scene is ok in my book. But in the context of this episode literally nothing the woman said was a confession. I suppose we'll just have to see how this goes.

And I don't see why everyone has to rip on Babylon just cuz the ending was garbage. I openly admit that that was one of the worst endings I have ever seen, but the majority of the show was really solid so I at least chose to not tank my score for it just because of one bad episode. I hear from a lot of people too that the source material ended in a completely different way from the anime. No matter what anyone saws, the writing in Babylon (especially during the 1st half) was pretty great. THAT story was written by someone who actually knew how to write a detective story.

Babylon is great right up until the moment you reach the ending. I mean, the moment you DO NOT reach the ending, because there is none. The series is great but if ultimately fails to work as a proper story since the author did not bother to even making a conclusion, forget making a good or bad conclusion.
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I suspected that woman was complicit with the criminal from the Beginning ~ _ ~ but I am very excited about the next episode
 
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This episode was better than the last episode
But there were some dumb scenes like swat team
scene which was horrible and the whole cute shit they waste 3 min say Kauai but in all good episode and ohh woooow
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The episode was really good, John Walker is becoming an infamous and enigmatic entity. I don’t know what to think about the trap, the squad was exploring but something like that is kind of a probability, they could be barely prepared for something like that, but I don’t really know. What I was surprised about was Hondomachi stopping Matsuoka’s action letting her finish with Inami, like she has higher rank or something, the thing with the squad was an emergency, I know that Hondomachi solved the case, but Matsuoka didn’t know she’d solve it there. Also, they’re in trouble with Kazuta hidden holding a knife.
 
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Loved her logic in sniffing out the Gravedigger
 
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:

There is no logic, nothing Hondomachi asked her yielded any kind of answer that even subtly hinted to her being a killer. 0% of the interactions or conversations would have led a sane person to the conclusion that she was the killer. Anybody would have a hard time ignoring a giant fucking hole in somebody's head. You don't have to be a fucking sadist to have a hard time ignoring that. Most normal people have to fight the urge to give attention to people in public they see who have obvious injures or disabilities because we all have a biological inkling to give attention to things that are outside the norm.

That whole interrogation was just more lazy writing where the writers don't know how to write a good mystery so they just throw some random deductions like stares at injury-->sadist-->serial killer which don't represent ANY kind of logical deduction. Like even if it wasn't what I mentioned earlier, how do they not know that she doesn't have a kink or something??? Just because she's a sadist she has to be the killer? And why would Hondomachi even make such a jump when they have such an obviously guilt suspect already being pursued?

Makes literally no fucking sense. The writers just pulled that scene out of their asses to create an unnecessary twist to make the arc longer and make Hondomachi seem smart for catching the real killer by just pulling a conviction out of her ass based on negligible details.


You´re right. This episode was a mess. And on top of that nonsense conversation (where I wholeheartedly agree with you), the SWAT part makes no sense at all. For starters, you can know if a barrel is full of liquid just by hitting it with your hand and listening to the noise it makes. Second, any SWAT team would have some drill and make a tiny hole to check things. Third, when you have fuckton of gasoline filled WOODEN barrels, the gasoline odor could be smelled from 100m away.

Is like the writers IQ dropped 20 points when they wrote this episode.
 
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Hondoumachi's two stream-of-consciousness 'deductions' were lowkey laughable.
 
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Hey sry if I ask for something that was possibly brought up a lot of times but does anybody know any research as to how well you can survive a drill to the head and how well this sort of injury heals ?

I know there are cases where people survived pretty big drills and functioned pretty normally till randomly dying of a complication years later but I can't really find good records on how well something like this heals

Good anime so far btw
 
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Did they really need this intense dialogue with a suspicious lesbian atmosphere to uncover the true motivation of the villain? But in any case, I must admit that in this episode this show finally became interesting to me. Shame that this is already the 5th episode.
Level of my english is still too poor, so ask not particularly angry because of my terrible grammar.
 
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why does a lover become a killer?
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Nieznajomy43 said:

Looking at someone wound isn't completely strange but she basically immediately wanted to clean Hondomachi wound after seeing blood and this is really strange.


You've never met someone that suddenly has a nose bleed or perhaps an open or recent wound and it starts to bleed, and you don't feel the urge to even tell this person that he/she is bleeding? more caring people would immediately pull out a handkerchief or a disposable tissue and would try to stop the bleeding wound.

I'm glad other people also found out how BS Hondomachi's "fishing" led to unmask the real gravidgger as Kazuto's chick. Nothing of her behaviour during the interview revealed that she was some sort of sadist that enjoys tortuiring others or that she would get off by watching blood run, her face was most of the time was unfazed and even when she cleaned Honomachi's forehead, she was still calm. Some people alligate that she kept the bloody tissue, ut there was no actual footage of this happening, the tissue just magically disappeared due to a cheap storyboard.

Her questions regarding Kazuto felt pretty much telegraphed, and given that they didn't know she was actually the real love interest of Kazuto felt completely out of the left field. the only moment that truly feels Hondomachi was into something was when she pointed out she kissed Kazuto and this chick finally had a real reaction, but prior to that nothing feels right to lead to Hondomachi's suspicions. I still wonder how did they actually managed to she visited Kazuto's house 3 times during their junior high years.
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Kimurah said:
Nieznajomy43 said:

Looking at someone wound isn't completely strange but she basically immediately wanted to clean Hondomachi wound after seeing blood and this is really strange.


You've never met someone that suddenly has a nose bleed or perhaps an open or recent wound and it starts to bleed, and you don't feel the urge to even tell this person that he/she is bleeding? more caring people would immediately pull out a handkerchief or a disposable tissue and would try to stop the bleeding wound.


but I'm not saying anything about telling someone about nose bleeding etc. I am talking about touching someone's wound.
And believe me, I work in hospital and if patient is conscious and can move, and wound doesn't look dangerous (eg wound from syringe) then patient would take care of own wound.

also this is natural behavior for not trained people to not touch someone's wound. It is imprinted to a certain degree in our subconscious/DNA to not touch someone's blood/wound as survival skill (protection against infections) and by touching you can worsen condition of it. I needed a few months before I was able to touch the patient without hesitation/fear.

And it was clear that this woman had experience in dealing with these kinds of wounds. So even if she was innocent then still this behavior was suspicious enough that it was worth further investigation.

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Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family
- JK Haru wa Isekai de Shoufu ni Natta
- Hige Wo Soru. Soshite Joshikosei Wo Hirou.
- Agravity Boys
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- Rikei ga Koi ni Ochita no de Shoumei shitemita.
- Runway de Waratte
- Oshi ga Budoukan Ittekuretara Shinu
 
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Fantastic episode!
 
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Well, the first half was slow and a bit boring but that’s pretty typical for this show. The second half really picked up and the ending was really intriguing. The look on the 23 year old’s face when she got found out was awesome.
 
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it seems Hondomachi is super perceptive in the romantic aspect because of her head injury

luckily my question about her age is answered right from the start lol, she looks like a middle schooler in a suit
 
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It’s getting more and more interesting. The chick was suspicious from the start once we get a shot of her hands clenching the bloody tissue after cleaning up hondomachi’s hole.

I still don’t really understand what kaeru is supposed to represent and what changes hondomachi got after getting the hole in her head
 
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