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The whole DLC pass was a fiasco, but at least it saves me from spending money on any of it, lol.
 
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I'm glad someone caught this and edited the pinky lmao. Sakurai flipping off all the FE haters.
 
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I think Sakurai kinda hinting the Fire Emblem DLC character with the three finger prior to announcement.

A massive disappointment though imo. They got way too many characters from that franchise in Smash. At least we're getting another DLC Volume pack with 6 characters in the future. Personally, I want Doomguy, Spyro, Sora, and Dante to be in it.
 
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I mean... I'm FE fan so I'm happy but... why Byleth??? Out of 3H characters Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude would've all been better and more interesting than just "yet another FE sword character".
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I don't play Fire Emblem or really know much of the series, but I just found it hilarious that TheJWittz literally just made a YouTube video sometime ago saying that they didn't want this character in Smash.
And now they're here lol

 
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Seeing many people getting butthurt that it wasn't Dante, Remiu, Doomguy, Arle, Sora, Crash, Saber etc was totally worth waking up at 6am.
 
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Is there any actual reason FE is still getting new reps? Like doesn't it have more reps than Pokemon and Mario now? I just find it very strange.
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the whole "too many fire emblem it unfair representation" argument is very misleading and fake logic from the roster beggars. Ultimate is supposed to have have every character from every game. Its like the biggest premise of the game. Fire emblem always had a new rep every new smash game. So of course there's going to be a large cast in ultimate.
 
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perje said:
the whole "too many fire emblem it unfair representation" argument is very misleading and fake logic from the roster beggars. Ultimate is supposed to have have every character from every game. Its like the biggest premise of the game. Fire emblem always had a new rep every new smash game. So of course there's going to be a large cast in ultimate.

If your mental gymnastics are to be taken seriously, then we should also have way more Pokemon characters and more versions of Link. Each Pokemon game has new Pokemon and trainers and most Zelda games have different protagonists.
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EndlessMaria said:
perje said:
the whole "too many fire emblem it unfair representation" argument is very misleading and fake logic from the roster beggars. Ultimate is supposed to have have every character from every game. Its like the biggest premise of the game. Fire emblem always had a new rep every new smash game. So of course there's going to be a large cast in ultimate.

If your mental gymnastics are to be taken seriously, then we should also have way more Pokemon characters and more versions of Link. Each Pokemon game has new Pokemon and trainers and most Zelda games have different protagonists.


Every link and every pokemon in previous smash games was included in ultimate. They even got new reps. Fire emblem didn't till today. I'm not sure what you are going on about by including everyone from every game ever. I meant every smash game if you didn't realise...
 
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Should've just left it with Marth and Roy.
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Let me preface this with saying that I'm aware I'm in the minority here.

From what I've seen, this is probably my favorite DLC character thus far. Considering that my previous favorite was Joker, despite having no connection to him, this takes the cake since I love Three Houses and FE in general.

Again, this is an unpopular opinion, but I believe Byleth should undoubtedly be in Smash. Three Houses was an important title for not only the franchise, but the Switch overall last year. It'd be idiotic for Nintendo not to promote it.
That said, I could do without Chrom and Lucina for example. However, Sakurai has stated that characters such as those take much less time to develop, so it's not like they took away spots.

I believe the DLC pass has been very generous. We've gotten the protagonist from a landmark title in a prominent JRPG franchise, a character from a series that is massively popular for how it made JRPGS what they are today, a beloved character from a classic 3D platformer, and a representative for a significant fighting franchise.
I think, even if you don't appreciate this specific character, the rest of the DLC pass makes up for it.
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LMAO

I like Fire Emblem a lot as it's one of the few remaining Nintendo franchises that I would buy a game from. But this is actually sad. Fire Emblem is a niche dating simulator/tactical RPG that was already overflooded with representation in Smash. I wouldn't be surprised if the circus continued with more FE characters in the next pass.

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At first, I was afraid the 5th DLC character would actually be Byleth since he's kind of generic swordman anime boi. And after the direct I'm now convinced he's potentially the best character out of the 5 revealed so far.

I like how he made him the representation of the three houses game in one single character with his different moveset and weapons. His moveset represent the different techniques of the leaders of each houses. You have Dimitri with his lance, Claude with his bow, Edelgard with her axe and the sword/whip of Byleth combined in one character. So for a Fire Emblem character, he isn't primarily battling with a sword and it is frankly refreshing. And I might be wrong, but I don't think I can name another Smash character who use a lance either so there's still something totally unique about him being part in smash.

And also the stage is seriously amazing. It is changing through 4 phases which each one of them represent one of the main route of the game. This is brilliant how in one character and one stage the is an almost complete representation of a one big game, nothing important is missing. They surely have worked hard putting as much representation in such limited content. I'm actually astonished.

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EndlessMaria said:
Is there any actual reason FE is still getting new reps? Like doesn't it have more reps than Pokemon and Mario now? I just find it very strange.

Mario still has the highest at 9 characters with Piranha plant being the most recent edition. The official site counts Yoshi and Wario as different game franchises (Yoshi and Warioware specifically) but if you count those 2 due to their very regular inclusion in Mario games it puts it at 11.

Pokemon has 8 and it's now tied for second since Byleth would be the 8th Fire Emblem character.

Edit: Technically if you think about it with Byleth they added 1 character to each of the most represented franchises this game. With Incineroar being the only one of the three who was in the base game.
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I like Three Houses so I am fine with this.




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Wish it would have been one of the main three lords instead of the avatar character. Robin/Corrin/Byleth just aren't interesting characters as standalones and they're basically just self-inserts, which is fine in Fire Emblem but makes no sense for Smash.


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I'm a huge FE fan and I'm glad I don't play Smash.
 
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As much as I love playing sword fights come on like half the fucking roster is Fire Emblem characters already dude.
 
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I remember the first 5 hours on Twitter right after the direct. Lots of Smash fans still salty about the result of the last DLC fighter for pass1. The like and dislike ratio on Youtube is probably the funniest meme of them all. Can’t say I’m disappointed in who was the last fighter, but I thought Sakurai would be done adding in any more Fire Emblem characters.
 
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Do you want to know why the whole outrage by the haters is utterly funny? Because if you have just a micron of knowedge about Smash Bros. (and most of the whiners should actually do) you MUST expect a character of the newest Fire Emblem title (and by far most succesful one that is) to get into the roster. Anyone who is surprised by that at this point, fully deserves a "Hoes mad"-mad thrown right into their face. If anything, these people can rejoice because now none of the next 6 slots will be taken by Fire Emblem. (At least I hope so)
Then again, wether you like it or not that Fire Emblem has so many reps in Smash or that Byleth was chosen before Edelgard/Dimitri is another case and you might be disappointed by that. Sure. I'd prefer Dimitri over the avatar character as well.

As for me, I'm not disappointed for the FE:3H rep joining Smash. However, I'm somewhat surprised that they got in during the first season pass, since Three Houses was released long after Smash Bros. I 100% expected Byleth to get in during the second pass.

On another note, based solely by their moveset my ranking of the released DLC characters would be Joker > Terry > Byleth > Banjo > Hero

EndlessMaria said:
Is there any actual reason FE is still getting new reps? Like doesn't it have more reps than Pokemon and Mario now? I just find it very strange.


Either someone in Sakurai's team of Sakurai himself is a massive fan of the series. Don't know anymore. Sales while the series is quite far behind the likes of Mario. Marth should've been added to the 64 roster but wasn't for one reason of another. Go figure.^^


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The whole DLC pass was a fiasco, but at least it saves me from spending money on any of it, lol.


The whole season pass a fiasco. Ok. Care to explain why? Because this opinion is one of the few cases I could think of where you could open up a "Am I the only one...?"-thread and NOT getting sarcastic replies. o_O No, seriously.
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The whole season pass a fiasco. Ok. Care to explain why? Because this opinion is one of the few cases I could think of where you could open up a "Am I the only one...?"-thread and NOT getting sarcastic replies. o_O

Plant = unfunny joke character.
Joker = literally who?
Hero = the only legitimate character on this pass, though I've never played Dragon Quest, so meh.
Banjo & Kazooie = old school iconic, but why is this in a Nintendo all-stars game?
Terry = Ken, but less cool, less iconic.
Byleth = another generic FE lord.

I'm just glad I never paid for the pass, because if I had, I'd be massively disappointed by this one. Hero is the only one out of the six I'd say I like just enough to maybe purchase as a single.
 
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While we can agree on Plant being a joke character, although it does not belong into the season pass roster, the rest of your arguments reek of little to none gaming knowledge on your side and lot of disinterest for the gaming medium in general.
Except for the Byleth argument, this is pure spite.
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Milennin said:
ArrRti said:
The whole season pass a fiasco. Ok. Care to explain why? Because this opinion is one of the few cases I could think of where you could open up a "Am I the only one...?"-thread and NOT getting sarcastic replies. o_O

Plant = unfunny joke character.
Joker = literally who?
Hero = the only legitimate character on this pass, though I've never played Dragon Quest, so meh.
Banjo & Kazooie = old school iconic, but why is this in a Nintendo all-stars game?
Terry = Ken, but less cool, less iconic.
Byleth = another generic FE lord.

I'm just glad I never paid for the pass, because if I had, I'd be massively disappointed by this one. Hero is the only one out of the six I'd say I like just enough to maybe purchase as a single.

I have to question your methodology for a few and your general views on some of the characters.
Plant = Not a character in the fighter pass. They are standalone DLC or free for people who registered the game before January 31st, 2019.
Joker = From a JRPG franchise where the 4th game in particular is often praised as one of the greatest games of all time. (Also you're on an anime site, you could literally just watch the Persona 5 anime)
Hero = A bit weird that you only consider them to be the legitimate character with your next character note considering Dragon Quest isn't a Nintendo property.
Banjo & Kazooie = Ah yes Nintendo All stars like Cloud Strife, Sonic the Hedgehog and Snake.

Nothing to add to the other 2.
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