| lol Putin will never step down entirely until he dies election in Russia is basically a joke |
BallistikJuice said: @deg, it's not about Putin, you've missed the point, stepped down those who were controlling the economy/and social blocks, and also certain changes to the constitution. ye charter/constitutional change is a big topic here in the philippines too and usually there is fear of politicians extending their term limits like forever |
BallistikJuice said: @deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. Also, Putin has no life compared to his opposition individuals, (when his term ends) he needs to shut-in somewhere in the basement and start keeping up with his unfinished big Anime log. I think he likes cat-girls... I'm pretty sure of that. We do not need anymore dictators, especially not dictators in a country that can end the world or do you really want a Cold War II or worse because a second Stalin will only end in Cold War II or worse. |
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| This is actually bad long term. It means nobody can think of whom to run Russia other than 67 year old Putin. When he eventually goes senile or passes away, Russia is going to be left in a leadership turmoil. With varying degrees of potential internal strife. To be fair to me though, I said the old skool kommies are just biding their time until the monolith that is Putin is gone instead of direct confrontation. This means, when Putin leaves. Whichever party or ideology replaces him will have all that lovely power that Putin has been granting himself. |
SoverignJan 15, 2020 2:21 PM
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BallistikJuice said: Well, the Communist Party in Russia is the minority they always only get around 2-3% of votes during the elections besides, the USSR collapsed under their rule, so nobody really cares about Communism anymore since the mid-80s(from my personal experience) tbh (or even earlier in some regions). As for Putin's replacement...it's really up to him...his judgment and to whom he will transfer his power. It will most likely gonna look like "don Corleone style", lol I'm sure of it. Oh I think there are more than that. Probably closer to 20-30%, which won't make them a majority, but a majority isn't necessary when all the other parties and even individuals of power are either attempting to carve out something for themselves or seize total control. During the tournament, any demonstrations were prohibited, but afterwards (from July 2018, ongoing) thousands of Russians expressed their negative opinion on the planned reform of the pension system. The anti-reform rallies and other actions were mostly organized by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and A Just Russia party.[3] However other political parties, trade unions and individuals also contributed to coordination of these protests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Russian_pension_protests Hopefully he does groom a competent successor and maybe he will. I doubt it. |
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| I have no idea what this entails, but happenings certainly do appear to be happening. I'll make the baseless inference that China is going to eat up Russia in order to make the Union of the Soviet People's Republics of China. |
BallistikJuice said: I'm getting your point of a need for a dictator who could get things in order but for the love of god do not mention that subhuman as if he was the one to have dealt with crooked and self centered politicians lol. The only thing that guy dealt in, was killing based on dislike.@deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. |
  “The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: BallistikJuice said: I'm getting your point of a need for a dictator who could get things in order but for the love of god do not mention that subhuman as if he was the one to have dealt with crooked and self centered politicians lol. The only thing that guy dealt in, was killing based on dislike.@deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. Aren't you regularly going around telling people your support for Nazism and showing praise for Hitler ? Double standards much? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_the_Night_of_the_Long_Knives Hitler wanted to conquer and exterminate the Slavs that you seem to be showing a liking for considering you're implying you don't want any killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost And that's just setting aside the whole Holocaust and WWII that he started. Even if you were a Holocaust denier you still would to acknowledge the millions of Russians killed by his regime and yet he still managed to lose the war. |
traedJan 15, 2020 8:10 PM
BallistikJuice said: Getting a dictator is never a solution. It's basically a way of fucking yourself up even more.@deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. Also, Putin has no life compared to his opposition individuals, (when his term ends) he needs to shut-in somewhere in the basement and start keeping up with his unfinished big Anime/Manga log. I think he likes cat-girls... I'm pretty sure of that. |
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BallistikJuice said: Getting a dictator is never a solution. It's basically a way of fucking yourself up even more.@deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. Also, Putin has no life compared to his opposition individuals, (when his term ends) he needs to shut-in somewhere in the basement and start keeping up with his unfinished big Anime/Manga log. I think he likes cat-girls... I'm pretty sure of that. |
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BallistikJuice said: That's how tyrannies are formed. Various groups of people having their own interests and then persuading them is always the best for country. You know thinking like "Only dictators can control big country like russia" is very shallow because that's not how entities are supposed to be run considering that system itself is flawed and violent. Politicians having self interests is very natural because they aren't noble kings and they aren't pretending to be one but you can at least keep them in check or revolt against them if something goes wrong. You can't do that with a dictator.@cythraul, to be able to control such a big country properly, you kinda have to be one, because of some Governers/Politicians and Political structures that need to have constant "a painful boot up their ass", otherwise they will be sitting on your head while having their feet on the table. |
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Hoppy said: BallistikJuice said: @deg, Russia needs another "Stalin", the problem with today's politicians(and also liberal oppositions) that they all selfish crooks, who are only caring for their personal wealth and nothing more. Also, Putin has no life compared to his opposition individuals, (when his term ends) he needs to shut-in somewhere in the basement and start keeping up with his unfinished big Anime log. I think he likes cat-girls... I'm pretty sure of that. We do not need anymore dictators, especially not dictators in a country that can end the world or do you really want a Cold War II or worse because a second Stalin will only end in Cold War II or worse. It's not like there's even been much democracy in Russia in the first place. You are right though neither we nor Russia needs more dictators. |
| I wonder how much russian oligarchy and bourgeois class have a say in this matter.They maybe comfortable with the status quo or they maybe be afraid Putin now holds too much centralized power.He is really trying to hold power until he is overthrown or a natural death occurs to him. |
ultravigoJan 16, 2020 4:07 AM
traed said: Aren't you regularly coming up with nonsensical sayings and building your arguments around those? Do show me where I praised Hitler.Luchse said: I'm getting your point of a need for a dictator who could get things in order but for the love of god do not mention that subhuman as if he was the one to have dealt with crooked and self centered politicians lol. The only thing that guy dealt in, was killing based on dislike. Aren't you regularly going around telling people your support for Nazism and showing praise for Hitler ? Double standards much? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_the_Night_of_the_Long_Knives Hitler wanted to conquer and exterminate the Slavs that you seem to be showing a liking for considering you're implying you don't want any killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost And that's just setting aside the whole Holocaust and WWII that he started. Even if you were a Holocaust denier you still would to acknowledge the millions of Russians killed by his regime and yet he still managed to lose the war. I loled at this one more than I should have. Where have I shown a liking towards the Slavs? Do show that one as well. Am I to feel pity for the masses of commies? Know you Traed why so many Russians died in the second world war? So many died because of the inadequate rulership coupled with this extremely efficient human murdering machinery called Communism. The oh so nice and human like commies whose symbolic's you are allowed to flaunt here. Imagine allowing people to support the ideology that is responsible for some of the highest of numbers of killings. The ridiculousness is immense! Let me also add Mr Churchill who with his gang of inept politicians was behind the famine in India which killed millions. But let us idolize him because he defeated the baddies! Back to the subhuman commies who raped and pillaged Germany for so long that the German women come up with a saying about it But then we'd say, better to have a Russian on your belly than an American over your head. With all that rape they preferred it to the carpet day and night bombings. Hide Traed, behind your moral high grounds! |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
| And nothing of value was lost tbh. deg said: lol Putin will never step down entirely until he dies election in Russia is basically a joke As far as I have read Russian news and few foreign ones no one really thinks Putin will sidewalk away entirely in 2024. Imo I'd say Putin's change of constitution(?) and power structure is just his way of trying to make it so whole thing won't blow up when he actually wants/needs to be away. BallistikJuice said: Hoppy said: We do not need anymore dictators, especially not dictators in a country that can end the world or do you really want a Cold War II or worse because a second Stalin will only end in Cold War II or worse. Well, Stalin never started any wars first, I don't know what kind of agenda you are trying to push here :/ Last time I checked even Russian historians agree USSR started a war in the year 1939 which is known as Winter War, era when Stalin was in the picture. Other conflicts can be argued how much he had effect. Regardless that scum still showed aggressive politics even towards USSR citizens to a level that can be considered as a genocide (which also fucked over some regions development), some based only on his paranoia. So nah Stalin really was one of the worst example you could give. |
konkeloJan 16, 2020 1:30 PM
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| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
BallistikJuice said: My anger comes from the obvious representations of what the mindset influenced by communism does to a lesser man. Some time back I called communism a rule of the disgruntled masses which it honestly is. The negatives far outweigh the positives and the funniest or perhaps the saddest thing is how easy it is to manipulate the populous into believing that we can all be fine and dandy with each other lol. The whole ideology is nothing short of ridiculous! Wherein it walked through, it left nothing but ruin. To hell with individuals who act as if communism was in any way better than National Socialism.@Luchse, Germany started that war, killing 27 million Russians in the process, I'm in no exception either since parents of my grandparents were executed and their whole village was burned by Germans. So I don't understand your anger toward Communists when in reality all of this has nothing to do with Communism. If an intruder kills your whole family it's completely normal not to blame the survivor who goes for revenge. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. You can also ask Jewish people about how exactly they feel about what Germans have done to their keens. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. Ah.. my work break is over. Soviets were the easily manipulated disgruntled masses. Extremely easy to force into slaving away their lives for the sake of their [i]liberators[/b from the oppression of monarchy. It is laughable how stupid the common man is to surrender himself to the poisonous ballad of death called communism. The sheer hypocrisy perpetrated by these liberators was astonishing. As people died in every nook and cranny of their country they enjoyed themselves in every possible way. All is well when one takes down the current rulership of the one's he deems inept and establishes his own fairy tales of governing. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. The facts and stats are posited all over the internet for the ones who are capable of reading. If you deem yourself capable enough then please consult all of that information which will allow you to see just how disgustingly bad and bloody communism truly is. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. How dare you downplay the literal history that happened for the whole world to see? Have you any representation in that mind of yours about how gruesome were the things committed by the commie subhumans? Have you ever read about the atrocities that beffell the poor countries over which those mongrels ruled? It is obvious that you have not read anything about such happenings. It would not surprise me that you are of the those who think that Katyn massacre was committed by the Germans and that commies were naught but the goody two shoes of this world. Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies. Communism is akin to a plague that leaves nothing but short term satisfaction after which people start dropping like flies. It is also a cancer that ought to be dealt with. |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: BallistikJuice said: My anger comes from the obvious representations of what the mindset influenced by communism does to a lesser man. Some time back I called communism a rule of the disgruntled masses which it honestly is. The negatives far outweigh the positives and the funniest or perhaps the saddest thing is how easy it is to manipulate the populous into believing that we can all be fine and dandy with each other lol. The whole ideology is nothing short of ridiculous! Wherein it walked through, it left nothing but ruin. To hell with individuals who act as if communism was in any way better than National Socialism.@Luchse, Germany started that war, killing 27 million Russians in the process, I'm in no exception either since parents of my grandparents were executed and their whole village was burned by Germans. So I don't understand your anger toward Communists when in reality all of this has nothing to do with Communism. If an intruder kills your whole family it's completely normal not to blame the survivor who goes for revenge. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. You can also ask Jewish people about how exactly they feel about what Germans have done to their keens. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. Ah.. my work break is over. Soviets were the easily manipulated disgruntled masses. Extremely easy to force into slaving away their lives for the sake of their [i]liberators[/b from the oppression of monarchy. It is laughable how stupid the common man is to surrender himself to the poisonous ballad of death called communism. The sheer hypocrisy perpetrated by these liberators was astonishing. As people died in every nook and cranny of their country they enjoyed themselves in every possible way. All is well when one takes down the current rulership of the one's he deems inept and establishes his own fairy tales of governing. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. The facts and stats are posited all over the internet for the ones who are capable of reading. If you deem yourself capable enough then please consult all of that information which will allow you to see just how disgustingly bad and bloody communism truly is. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. How dare you downplay the literal history that happened for the whole world to see? Have you any representation in that mind of yours about how gruesome were the things committed by the commie subhumans? Have you ever read about the atrocities that beffell the poor countries over which those mongrels ruled? It is obvious that you have not read anything about such happenings. It would not surprise me that you are of the those who think that Katyn massacre was committed by the Germans and that commies were naught but the goody two shoes of this world. Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies. Communism is akin to a plague that leaves nothing but short term satisfaction after which people start dropping like flies. It is also a cancer that ought to be dealt with. ok that is old school communism but i agree that kind of communism will never work so we have to wait for the new or real communism which is Fully Automated Luxury Communism but may i ask why National Socialism is better? and what even is National Socialism? because i heard its not socialism at all |
deg said: Leave it to the commie sympathizers to tell you how it wasn't the real communism or how the things have changed. I wasn't talking about the ideology itself being better but instead I talked about it having dealt lesser amounts of casualties than its commie counterpart did. Deg you know very well that I am not allowed to talk about NS related things without being threatened by a ban hammer so please do not ask of me that which is impossible.Luchse said: My anger comes from the obvious representations of what the mindset influenced by communism does to a lesser man. Some time back I called communism a rule of the disgruntled masses which it honestly is. The negatives far outweigh the positives and the funniest or perhaps the saddest thing is how easy it is to manipulate the populous into believing that we can all be fine and dandy with each other lol. The whole ideology is nothing short of ridiculous! Wherein it walked through, it left nothing but ruin. To hell with individuals who act as if communism was in any way better than National Socialism. Soviets were the easily manipulated disgruntled masses. Extremely easy to force into slaving away their lives for the sake of their [i]liberators[/b from the oppression of monarchy. It is laughable how stupid the common man is to surrender himself to the poisonous ballad of death called communism. The sheer hypocrisy perpetrated by these liberators was astonishing. As people died in every nook and cranny of their country they enjoyed themselves in every possible way. All is well when one takes down the current rulership of the one's he deems inept and establishes his own fairy tales of governing. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. The facts and stats are posited all over the internet for the ones who are capable of reading. If you deem yourself capable enough then please consult all of that information which will allow you to see just how disgustingly bad and bloody communism truly is. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. How dare you downplay the literal history that happened for the whole world to see? Have you any representation in that mind of yours about how gruesome were the things committed by the commie subhumans? Have you ever read about the atrocities that beffell the poor countries over which those mongrels ruled? It is obvious that you have not read anything about such happenings. It would not surprise me that you are of the those who think that Katyn massacre was committed by the Germans and that commies were naught but the goody two shoes of this world. Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies. Communism is akin to a plague that leaves nothing but short term satisfaction after which people start dropping like flies. It is also a cancer that ought to be dealt with. ok that is old school communism but i agree that kind of communism will never work so we have to wait for the new or real communism which is Fully Automated Luxury Communism but may i ask why National Socialism is better? and what even is National Socialism? because i heard its not socialism at all |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: deg said: Leave it to the commie sympathizers to tell you how it wasn't the real communism or how the things have changed. I wasn't talking about the ideology itself being better but instead I talked about it having dealt lesser amounts of casualties than its commie counterpart did. Deg you know very well that I am not allowed to talk about NS related things without being threatened by a ban hammer so please do not ask of me that which is impossible.ok that is old school communism but i agree that kind of communism will never work so we have to wait for the new or real communism which is Fully Automated Luxury Communism but may i ask why National Socialism is better? and what even is National Socialism? because i heard its not socialism at all lol you already talk how bad communism is though so you cannot talk how good national socialism is compared to communism? you do not have to blatantly write here all the gruesome details that can get you banned |
deg said: Yes deg I talked about what it did to the world. Talking about a taboo theme that gets one banned 9/10 times is not something I am willing to experiment with. If the rules were different to the current ones we would be conversing about it to the best of potentials. I am not willing to put the safety of my account at risk for the sake of satisfying someone about his wishes to learn.Luchse said: Leave it to the commie sympathizers to tell you how it wasn't the real communism or how the things have changed. I wasn't talking about the ideology itself being better but instead I talked about it having dealt lesser amounts of casualties than its commie counterpart did. Deg you know very well that I am not allowed to talk about NS related things without being threatened by a ban hammer so please do not ask of me that which is impossible. lol you already talk how bad communism is though so you cannot talk how good national socialism is compared to communism? you do not have to blatantly write here all the gruesome details that can get you banned |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: deg said: Yes deg I talked about what it did to the world. Talking about a taboo theme that gets one banned 9/10 times is not something I am willing to experiment with. If the rules were different to the current ones we would be conversing about it to the best of potentials. I am not willing to put the safety of my account at risk for the sake of satisfying someone about his wishes to learn.lol you already talk how bad communism is though so you cannot talk how good national socialism is compared to communism? you do not have to blatantly write here all the gruesome details that can get you banned lol thats unfair for communism though but nah im not sympathizing with the old school communism at all though as im looking for the Fully Automated Luxury Communism more if technological singularity will not make killer human hating robots that is but ok if you say so |
BallistikJuice said: You obviously misunderstood my saying about the Nazis being like a droplet of water when compared to commies.It seems to me that you are young, and personally never lived during the Communism era, and already with such hate rage. I've experienced the late Soviet era personally, still, I feel completely natural I don't hate it and not obsessed with it. But saying "Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies." you already going overboard and over your head, dude. Kinda wondering here, from where exactly are you? Such anger and with Nazi inclinations. I wasn't talking about the ideology itself being better but instead I talked about it having dealt lesser amounts of casualties than its commie counterpart did. I explained it to deg not long ago. Serbia. Edit: It seems to me that you are young, and personally never lived during the Communism era, and already with such hate rage. I've experienced the late Soviet era personally, still, I feel completely natural I don't hate it and not obsessed with it. Am I to discard calling communism as what it is because you lived during it and feel natural about it and have no hate for it? Should we just abandon the millions and millions of deaths caused by that ideology just because you have no hate for it? Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound right now? deg said: To hell with it being unfair to an ideology that killed more people than any other in the previous century did.Luchse said: Yes deg I talked about what it did to the world. Talking about a taboo theme that gets one banned 9/10 times is not something I am willing to experiment with. If the rules were different to the current ones we would be conversing about it to the best of potentials. I am not willing to put the safety of my account at risk for the sake of satisfying someone about his wishes to learn. lol thats unfair for communism though but nah im not sympathizing with the old school communism at all though as im looking for the Fully Automated Luxury Communism more if technological singularity will not make killer human hating robots that is but ok if you say so |
LuchseJan 16, 2020 3:04 PM
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: To hell with it being unfair to an ideology that killed more people than any other in the previous century did. well im talking unfairness in the sense of seeing both sides of the argument first but you do not want to risk talking about national socialism so ok because to me statistics wise then capitalism have killed more than communism lol |
deg said: Need I start bashing the rulership of the money or how others prefer to call it Capitalism? You missed out on my saying how communism killed the most people out of all the ideologies in the previous century.Luchse said: To hell with it being unfair to an ideology that killed more people than any other in the previous century did. well im talking unfairness in the sense of seeing both sides of the argument first but you do not want to risk talking about national socialism so ok because to me statistics wise then capitalism have killed more than communism lol |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: deg said: Need I start bashing the rulership of the money or how others prefer to call it Capitalism? You missed out on my saying how communism killed the most people out of all the ideologies in the previous century.well im talking unfairness in the sense of seeing both sides of the argument first but you do not want to risk talking about national socialism so ok because to me statistics wise then capitalism have killed more than communism lol nah pollution cause by rapid capitalism alone im sure can rival communisms death toll this century plus neoliberalism capitalism today cause more mental suffering like suicides skyrocketing EDIT: ok previous century but ye fair enough i guess |
deg said: I don't see any of those causes counting for near 100 million deaths and especially so when you said in this century.Luchse said: Need I start bashing the rulership of the money or how others prefer to call it Capitalism? You missed out on my saying how communism killed the most people out of all the ideologies in the previous century. nah pollution cause by rapid capitalism alone im sure can rival communisms death toll this century plus neoliberalism capitalism today cause more mental suffering like suicides skyrocketing |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: deg said: I don't see any of those causes counting for near 100 million deaths and especially so when you said in this century.nah pollution cause by rapid capitalism alone im sure can rival communisms death toll this century plus neoliberalism capitalism today cause more mental suffering like suicides skyrocketing here quick google The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/air_pollution.htm 100 years multiplied to that is like 400 million deaths alone |
Luchse said: BallistikJuice said: My anger comes from the obvious representations of what the mindset influenced by communism does to a lesser man. Some time back I called communism a rule of the disgruntled masses which it honestly is. The negatives far outweigh the positives and the funniest or perhaps the saddest thing is how easy it is to manipulate the populous into believing that we can all be fine and dandy with each other lol. The whole ideology is nothing short of ridiculous! Wherein it walked through, it left nothing but ruin. To hell with individuals who act as if communism was in any way better than National Socialism.@Luchse, Germany started that war, killing 27 million Russians in the process, I'm in no exception either since parents of my grandparents were executed and their whole village was burned by Germans. So I don't understand your anger toward Communists when in reality all of this has nothing to do with Communism. If an intruder kills your whole family it's completely normal not to blame the survivor who goes for revenge. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. You can also ask Jewish people about how exactly they feel about what Germans have done to their keens. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. Ah.. my work break is over. Soviets were the easily manipulated disgruntled masses. Extremely easy to force into slaving away their lives for the sake of their [i]liberators[/b from the oppression of monarchy. It is laughable how stupid the common man is to surrender himself to the poisonous ballad of death called communism. The sheer hypocrisy perpetrated by these liberators was astonishing. As people died in every nook and cranny of their country they enjoyed themselves in every possible way. All is well when one takes down the current rulership of the one's he deems inept and establishes his own fairy tales of governing. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. The facts and stats are posited all over the internet for the ones who are capable of reading. If you deem yourself capable enough then please consult all of that information which will allow you to see just how disgustingly bad and bloody communism truly is. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. How dare you downplay the literal history that happened for the whole world to see? Have you any representation in that mind of yours about how gruesome were the things committed by the commie subhumans? Have you ever read about the atrocities that beffell the poor countries over which those mongrels ruled? It is obvious that you have not read anything about such happenings. It would not surprise me that you are of the those who think that Katyn massacre was committed by the Germans and that commies were naught but the goody two shoes of this world. Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies. Communism is akin to a plague that leaves nothing but short term satisfaction after which people start dropping like flies. It is also a cancer that ought to be dealt with. Both commited henious war crimes and I dont understand how you. A Slav. Supports National Socialism. Its an outdated meme ideology. You dont even understand what True National Socialism is and claim its a movement to rally the people against a certain "enemy" Even though the same can be said about Communism or other authoritarian ideologies that they exist to rally the people against a certain enemy. In the Communist case it would be the Rich/Priveleged. In the Fascist case the enemy would be "The Communist/Progressives" |
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deg said: That is a failed count because it requires of us to believe that for the last 100 years we polluted in the exact same amount. Not to mention the differences in the population numbers.Luchse said: I don't see any of those causes counting for near 100 million deaths and especially so when you said in this century. here quick google The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/air_pollution.htm 100 years multiplied to that is like 400 million deaths alone Dildry said: We already went over this before so let us restrain ourselves.Luchse said: My anger comes from the obvious representations of what the mindset influenced by communism does to a lesser man. Some time back I called communism a rule of the disgruntled masses which it honestly is. The negatives far outweigh the positives and the funniest or perhaps the saddest thing is how easy it is to manipulate the populous into believing that we can all be fine and dandy with each other lol. The whole ideology is nothing short of ridiculous! Wherein it walked through, it left nothing but ruin. To hell with individuals who act as if communism was in any way better than National Socialism. Soviets were the easily manipulated disgruntled masses. Extremely easy to force into slaving away their lives for the sake of their [i]liberators[/b from the oppression of monarchy. It is laughable how stupid the common man is to surrender himself to the poisonous ballad of death called communism. The sheer hypocrisy perpetrated by these liberators was astonishing. As people died in every nook and cranny of their country they enjoyed themselves in every possible way. All is well when one takes down the current rulership of the one's he deems inept and establishes his own fairy tales of governing. There are, of course, some dumbfucks in the media nowadays who compare Nazism with Communism and saying that Communism is/and was worse than Nazism. The facts and stats are posited all over the internet for the ones who are capable of reading. If you deem yourself capable enough then please consult all of that information which will allow you to see just how disgustingly bad and bloody communism truly is. But, I do expect that some/ or certain Russians did some stuff to Germans in the process of war but they obviously didn't do those things because Communism was flowing in their veins. How dare you downplay the literal history that happened for the whole world to see? Have you any representation in that mind of yours about how gruesome were the things committed by the commie subhumans? Have you ever read about the atrocities that beffell the poor countries over which those mongrels ruled? It is obvious that you have not read anything about such happenings. It would not surprise me that you are of the those who think that Katyn massacre was committed by the Germans and that commies were naught but the goody two shoes of this world. Nazis are like a droplet of water when compared to the commies. Communism is akin to a plague that leaves nothing but short term satisfaction after which people start dropping like flies. It is also a cancer that ought to be dealt with. Both commited henious war crimes and I dont understand how you. A Slav. Supports National Socialism. Edit: Ok just saw your edit and urge you to read what was written in those comments again so that we can avoid me having to tell you that you are obviously not reading my sayings or are misunderstanding them. Even tho I told you similar thing to what I am now you still return yourself to the same point in time. The funniest thing is that I made a jest on the account of both ideologies which you took at a face value. |
LuchseJan 16, 2020 3:23 PM
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Luchse said: deg said: That is a failed count because it requires of us to believe that for the last 100 years we polluted in the exact same amount. Not to mention the differences in the population numbers.here quick google The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/air_pollution.htm 100 years multiplied to that is like 400 million deaths alone ok how about this Over the 20th century, 260 million died from indoor air pollution in the Third World – about twice the toll in all the century’s wars. source https://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/publication/scorecard-humanity-air-pollution-hutton |
deg said: That one is much more plausible and believable.Luchse said: That is a failed count because it requires of us to believe that for the last 100 years we polluted in the exact same amount. Not to mention the differences in the population numbers. ok how about this Over the 20th century, 260 million died from indoor air pollution in the Third World – about twice the toll in all the century’s wars. source https://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/publication/scorecard-humanity-air-pollution-hutton |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
I for one believe we should combine the best elements of all extreme ideologies to maximize human suffering. |
BallistikJuice said: I acknowledged that and answered your question about where my anger for it comes from. Tell how am I siding myself with National Socialism by bashing both of the ideologies for their murderous happenings? No you did not lose me but you are deliberately escaping the discussion after being called out for stating something flat out ridiculous. Bailing out and accusing the other party of something for the sake of hiding yourself behind the moral high grounds is what you did.As I have stated in the beginning, my only intention for "Stalin-like" was specifically about the post-WW2 era and economy/industrialization/and how he dealt with crooks. (Also he managed to finish WW2 and rebuild his country after the war, that's more than enough for me) @Luchse, I lost you completely, but, since you deliberately keep siding yourself with Nazism (and give it an upper hand) I don't have any interest in further discussions with individuals like you. Luchse said: Edit: It seems to me that you are young, and personally never lived during the Communism era, and already with such hate rage. I've experienced the late Soviet era personally, still, I feel completely natural I don't hate it and not obsessed with it. Am I to discard calling communism as what it is because you lived during it and feel natural about it and have no hate for it? Should we just abandon the millions and millions of deaths caused by that ideology just because you have no hate for it? Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound right now? |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
BallistikJuice said: It is when I am talking about the deaths it caused just for you to pose your thoughts about it as if there's nothing wrong with it.Luchse said: I acknowledged that and answered your question about where my anger for it comes from. Tell how am I siding myself with National Socialism by bashing both of the ideologies for their murderous happenings? No you did not lose me but you are deliberately escaping the discussion after being called out for stating something flat out ridiculous. Bailing out and accusing the other party of something for the sake of hiding yourself behind the moral high grounds is what you did. Me feeling natural about the late Soviet era where I've lived is nothing ridiculous about it. |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Freshell said: Will you at least give humankind a safeword?I for one believe we should combine the best elements of all extreme ideologies to maximize human suffering. |
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Kosmonaut said: Freshell said: Will you at least give humankind a safeword?I for one believe we should combine the best elements of all extreme ideologies to maximize human suffering. If someone says the following in specific, "Yes! Please continue mutilating my wife in front of me. Also FMAB is better than FMA!," then they are free to go. |
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