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Daniel_Naumov said: Kuroimi said: So many plotholes, wow I would be interested in particular plot holes. Could you kindly list them, at least by name? First, why would they need to transport Kirito in the artificial island if they can connect from Japan, like Shinon and Suguha will do? Why the scientists took that much time to detect the change in the server' speed? Or at least that something was strange? Because they were sleeping? What a coincidence Why the players from america can connect in Underworld this fast? Wasn't it a "closed beta" thingy? It was done in like less than one hour (since they didn't even cut all the ropes in Underworld), it shouldn't be this fast for the word to spread in the internet, select enough people and prepare it on the go like that, or what, are all American have no life? Also, why would a "private" server network from Japan (and by that, I mean a server solely made for testing things for the nation) would connect this easely in America for them to play? I would also add the thing about AmuSphere being able to connect in Underworld, but that was already explained here so I guess that doesn't count Also, Yui who know everything is a little bit over the top but I guess we need it or else the story won't progress :/ Maybe I didn't understand what was explained and that's why I see these things as plotholes, or story convenience, if so, if someone would like to explain it to me... |
Kuroimi said: Daniel_Naumov said: I would be interested in particular plot holes. Could you kindly list them, at least by name? First, why would they need to transport Kirito in the artificial island if they can connect from Japan, like Shinon and Suguha will do? Why the scientists took that much time to detect the change in the server' speed? Or at least that something was strange? Because they were sleeping? What a coincidence Why the players from america can connect in Underworld this fast? Wasn't it a "closed beta" thingy? It was done in like less than one hour (since they didn't even cut all the ropes in Underworld), it shouldn't be this fast for the word to spread in the internet, select enough people and prepare it on the go like that, or what, are all American have no life? Also, why would a "private" server network from Japan (and by that, I mean a server solely made for testing things for the nation) would connect this easely in America for them to play? I would also add the thing about AmuSphere being able to connect in Underworld, but that was already explained here so I guess that doesn't count Also, Yui who know everything is a little bit over the top but I guess we need it or else the story won't progress :/ Maybe I didn't understand what was explained and that's why I see these things as plotholes, or story convenience, if so, if someone would like to explain it to me... For Kirito is because they need stl, amusphere can’t help because it hasn’t what is necessary .It don’t pass too much time, I think it depends on a perspective in time. The things of give to the American players the chance to login is part of the plan, the war until now is part of Vector plan to take time until Critter do this. It takes to him around 5 hours like the blond computer scientist said. This project run over the seed, the tecnology developed by Kayaba so I think it’s possible give to others the right to login using the functionality of cross-platform of the seed. |
Caltsio said: Nemesis16 said: The thing is, all the games had pain absorber so you never felt real pain. On Underworld, you not only feel real pain but it's a bit more than normal. You sense all of that into the Underworld, not on your outside body. For example, if you get decapitated, you will feel it in there with your avatar as there's nothing blocking the pain. It's basically this. The signals are sent to your brain but you feel them into the virtual world. Using your example is a bit hard to understand because i don't know what happen when a person's head got chopped. I mean their body/brain reaction. So for example if the player's arm (because you can still alive even after losing an arm unless you died because you bleed too much) got cut off, the brain will receive a signal about that right? Then won't your brain sending an automatic distress reaction/signal to your whole body like a lot of sweat, heavy breathing or increased heart rate in this case? Or does the signal can't go outside your brain? Nemesis16 said: With Amusphere, it was only equipped with systems that had pain absorbers, so basically every game. But Underworld don't have this, because Underworld is trying to be a simulation for the artificial fluctlights while using the seed. And, the same seed is why other accounts can enter, with the difference that they won't be fluclights as there's no STL and they will see everything as a game, because only the STL can make everything as if it's reality since it goes directly into your fluctlight and uses your memory to form that world. I understand the rest except the part when you said "With Amusphere, it was only equipped with systems that had pain absorbers.. ", is that confirmed? Because i can't find it yet anywhere so far (except from reading the LN of course). It's heavy but it's something fun to be discussed to be honest. 😂 No, because the pain that you feel is inside the game/Virtual world. It's not a pain going to your body but being given to you by the system itself as there's nothing blocking the pain. So for example if you lose your arm, you will feel as if you lost, but only there.In the real world, you won't feel anything to your body. It's different than it was in SAO, where there was pain absorbers in the game so you almost didn't feel pain but the Nervegear had a system where you would die if you had it removed and if your avatar died. For the second point, yes, it's confirmed. Amusphere was created based on the nervegear of SAO. Which is why it had pain absorber and all the other games had it as well, because they were games being sold to the market. But Underworld isn't a game, it's a secret project of a virtual world simulation using the seed as the engine to create that world, so not only they don't need to use pain absorbers but to make it more real, they didn't implement it, to make the fluctlights think that they are living in a real world. |
| I haven't felt like that since rem speech in rezero, Very touching speech, l have repeated it 6 times so far.... 10/10 episode Best SAO season without doubt.... |
japcrap_ said: Did this seriously go from an anime about a video game to an anime about the United States Military stealing an artificial intelligence from the Japanese government to make their drones more efficient? SAO was my first anime and has always been one of my favorites despite its glaring plotholes and hogwash writing, but this is just getting ridiculous. Did you wake up from coma or something? lol Alicization began over one year ago. And it isn't ridiculous compared to a "video game", because the entire project is using the seed of the very first VRMMORPG to do everything. It's also all the previous arcs coming into one place. There's this some weird impression that SAO is about battles, video games and what not but it was all about the real and virtual life and how the virtual is also real, which ending with an entire project creating a real AI is the culmination of all of that. It's also pretty stupid to say that it's "just a videogame" when the VRMMORPG were always impressive pieces of technology so Project Alicization is just a evolution of that with the medicub and STL and all based on a government project using the seed of the games to create a virtual world and all. |
japcrap_ said: Did this seriously go from an anime about a video game to an anime about the United States Military stealing an artificial intelligence from the Japanese government to make their drones more efficient? SAO was my first anime and has always been one of my favorites despite its glaring plotholes and hogwash writing, but this is just getting ridiculous. sao never was an anime about only video games, there are always been things more complex which involved societies with their focus on different kind of technology. Those technologies are always ectremely good, if you think at the medicuboid you can understand it’s something a lot of governments would take. |
| Can't say I'm not slightly disappointed by the adaptation. Compared to SAO, where A-1 actually went out of their way to restructure some of the novels for a better linear story, Alicization's adaptation is nearly a summarized version of the novels cutting some corners. My main issues lies mostly with the first 2 cours Alicization. It was battle after battle, with not only disappointing animation and sword locks, it built up almost none of the integrity knights. Now, we're thrown into a war with a diverse cast and multiple pov's from a bunch of characters that's gotten minimal development, without Kirito. On the otherhand, ironically some hot-headed characters like Iskahn and Scheta have gotten incredible expositions over the course of a battle. (lol) Other than the difficult to bear English, this episode was actually quite good. Byfar one of the more impressive non-action moments in SAO, hard to believe sidelined Liz was at the center of it. Unfortunately, barely anyone including Liz, Klein, Agil, and Eugene have gotten any screentime in the past, so it lost quite a lot of impact for me personally. And some of the flashbacks from s1 felt quite out of place with the art being so vastly different between s1 and Alicization. Damn, I have quite a few gripes now that I look back at what's written, but it's more of potential improvements and failing to meet high expectations rather than it being a poor adaptation. Though, if anyone hasn't read the novels, I can see why they would fall into an immediate love it or hate it camp. |
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| With all past problems gone (subvertly for plot reasons), here we are at Alicizaton Awakening. With what seemed like a possibility for the Dark Territory's forces to penerate for saving time, Commander Bernoculi and the other remaining Integrity Knights waged war, first blood. But all this is at the expense of Victor and his "SDF army" forces who've already penetrated the Ocean Turtle ahead of time, and significantly changed things around while Kikuoka and the others at Rath aren't aware of. Through Yui, the World Seed given from Kayaba Akihiko to Kirito at the end of Season 1, it's a wonder to see that all that was readied for Alice. The others a.k.a Sinon, Lisbeth and the rest of the SAO team must prepare for the worst, as the time shift to re-enact real time, as well as the entire World Seed ecosystem to prepare for Data Conversion for the Battle of the Underworld, is a huge gamble. But it is a gamble that must be taken, as the infiltration of the entire world is hijacked into the Underworld. Part 2 coming to an end soon with the next episode before another long wait for the final quarter. |
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| Kirito: Harem, assemble! |
| Every time I hear a Sakamoto Maaya voiced character talking about death, it feels kinda weird...especially if she uses the same tone of Void... xD Amazing speech at the end of episode. It's one of those "you hate it or love it" speech Die hard fan of SAO? Love Die hart hater of SAO? Hate Neither? If you're a huge nerd or otaku in anything, you can relate with it and you'll love it, otherwise it will feel super lame, cringy and nonsensical to you. Easy. Just don't say it's bad just because you can't relate or you blindly hate SAO (yet you still watch it xD) |
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FullyCharged said: Every time I hear a Sakamoto Maaya voiced character talking about death, it feels kinda weird...especially if she uses the same tone of Void... xD Amazing speech at the end of episode. It's one of those "you hate it or love it" speech Die hard fan of SAO? Love Die hart hater of SAO? Hate Neither? If you're a huge nerd or otaku in anything, you can relate with it and you'll love it, otherwise it will feel super lame, cringy and nonsensical to you. Easy. Just don't say it's bad just because you can't relate or you blindly hate SAO (yet you still watch it xD) What is sure is that the haters of sao will watch every single episode because they need to watch it lol I’ve always found hilarious this thing from when I heard that from one of that called ‘haters’ haha |
| Lizbeth's speech was great, this girl got her time to shine after so many years! This is turning into a proper war now! Pretty great episode, eventho it was more buildup than I had expected! |
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| Nice episode. Too much nonsense but finally made sense. |
 All the best people are crazy! |
| final battle is coming......... it will be all like sao season 1 ....... ^_^ |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
KuuhakuDesu said: What the fuck did I just watch? I'm genuinely impressed by the sheer amount of bullshit they were able to cram into a single episode. Way to go, SAO. This doesn't make sense at all. Isn't the Soul Translator needed to be able to enter Underworld? If that's so, did Rath really had an infrasctructure set up to accomodate tens of thousands of players like any other Seed-based VRMMORPG? 'Cause I can't beleive the attackers set up all that shit so quickly. I gotta say though, Reki Kawahara must love the fact that he created Yui, so he can bend and retcon the shit out of the plot whenever he needs. Lizbeth's speech was nice, at least up to the point were, out of nowhere, they jst started throwing in that not only SAO survivors, but VRMMORPG players as a whole suffered from prejudice in their society. Like, what? Also, guilt tripping people into helping them and make them ignore so many risks is great, right? Ugh... I've already lost all hope with the rest of this arc. I explained that on the same page but here's it again: The Dive machine by Rath is only needed if you want the full immersion and for the healing process via Fluctlights. Since the Underworld was basically built on top of the Seed Engine used by the Original SAO and countless VR games, it makes sense that it can be rigged to accept accounts from other Seed games, though not on the same level of functionality or immersiveness as the dive machines that Kirito and Asuna are using right now. As an example, since the Americans are using their amusphere it means that the underworld to them just looks like a normal vr world (so a game) and not super realistic like how Kirito and Asuna see it, as both of them are using STL instead which makes you think that this looks like reality instead of a video game like the other VRMMORPG. Another thing is the difference of STL and Amusphere. Rath Dive Machine STL allows you to sync with the Underworld directly. Basically, your brain/soul is translated into a Fluctlight so that it could experience things just as the Fluctlights in the Underworld do. This means that things like the time acceleration and that System Call Generation system and Incarnation system are usable by those in the STL. Normal VR Dive machines can't do this. Also, they would not experience the massive desync issues when the Underworld is accelerated. That's why this episode was also partly focused on having the Underworld and the Real World's time be on sync. Any deviation from the normal time would introduce massive lag to non-STL dive machines and would eject their users once the time starts accelerating as the Amusphere isn't capable to do that on that speed of time of UW, only the STL. Which is why they had to make Underworld and Real world have the same timeframe, to make all the ones without stl to be able to enter. |
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Alvaritoterreos said: The writer went crayz af and remembered that Liz exists lmao That was just the only relevant thing Lizbeth did since her episode in the Aincrad first arc. And that was not a little thing, since she pretty much sumarized all what SAO story is about. ------- My pure spoiler-innocent guesses: - Since SAO remember us ALL THE TIME that SAO is about REAL LIFE in virtual "game-mmo" world, the braindead Kirito possible will lost his phisycal body and become a 100% virtual existence. Are you prepared to accept this? - Bercouli is the avatar of the father of that Singer girl from Ordinal Scale. Bercouli being the oldest living person, the "mole" who made Quinella learns the code, the weird flashback, the return of Eiji at this point, everything matches. |
Rob7Dec 21, 2019 6:19 PM
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| Call me old, but I really didn't like Liz speech at all. Too long and too boring to be honest. It's a bunch of pixels anyway. I still don't know how that speech is gonna make the ALO players switch to the underworld just like that. Didn't even convince me. Anyways, I have enjoyed this season a lot even if I started it on monday. It's always great to see Alice on camera. Hoping for a great ending next saturday. Love both OP and ED as well. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| She just had to convince the guild leaders. Their CGIlized followers don't even have a face, what to say about free will. |
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| Lisbeth: There is no pain absorber, so if you die in the game, you'll feel like dying Everyone: *inaudible* Lisbeth: And, if you convert your data, your chara might be lost Everyone: *loses their minds* Lel Don't get me wrong, it's a good episode to hype up the final. Can't wait for next week! |
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zeroj said: I still don't know how that speech is gonna make the ALO players switch to the underworld just like that. Didn't even convince me. It doesn't convince a lot of people in that crowd either. Something like over 80% of the audience just fucks off and walks away after that. |
| This episode was a blast. More harem shit, more nonsensical explanations and more asspulls. The holy trinity all in one. |
| DAAAAAMN. o_o Go Liz. It makes sense she was chosen; Silica probably isn't aggressive enough in front of a crowd and Leafa didn't play the original SAO so she couldn't get quite as upset. Omg YUNA AND EIJI ARE HERE TOO? AWESOME I LOVE THEM. Gaff said: Lisbeth: There is no pain absorber, so if you die in the game, you'll feel like dying Everyone: *inaudible* Lisbeth: And, if you convert your data, your chara might be lost Everyone: *loses their minds* Lel I also grinned at this because gamers in reality |
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| Lizbeth finally got her time to shine... It took long though. This was the only time she became relevant after the Aincrad arc. |
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KuuhakuDesu said: Nemesis16 said: I explained that on the same page but here's it again: The Dive machine by Rath is only needed if you want the full immersion and for the healing process via Fluctlights. Since the Underworld was basically built on top of the Seed Engine used by the Original SAO and countless VR games, it makes sense that it can be rigged to accept accounts from other Seed games, though not on the same level of functionality or immersiveness as the dive machines that Kirito and Asuna are using right now. As an example, since the Americans are using their amusphere it means that the underworld to them just looks like a normal vr world (so a game) and not super realistic like how Kirito and Asuna see it, as both of them are using STL instead which makes you think that this looks like reality instead of a video game like the other VRMMORPG. Another thing is the difference of STL and Amusphere. Rath Dive Machine STL allows you to sync with the Underworld directly. Basically, your brain/soul is translated into a Fluctlight so that it could experience things just as the Fluctlights in the Underworld do. This means that things like the time acceleration and that System Call Generation system and Incarnation system are usable by those in the STL. Normal VR Dive machines can't do this. Also, they would not experience the massive desync issues when the Underworld is accelerated. That's why this episode was also partly focused on having the Underworld and the Real World's time be on sync. Any deviation from the normal time would introduce massive lag to non-STL dive machines and would eject their users once the time starts accelerating as the Amusphere isn't capable to do that on that speed of time of UW, only the STL. Which is why they had to make Underworld and Real world have the same timeframe, to make all the ones without stl to be able to enter. I read what you wrote before and also took a triip to the wiki, since I didn't read the LN. It does make sense, although I hardly remember if the explanation given for the STL in the anime. My understanding about it and how it works was (or still is) limited, I gotta admit. Reki Kawahara, you're safe this time (kind of). But it doesn't make it less confusing when they just throw it at you like they did, at least for anime-only. I'm still curious about how Rath has an infrastructure to support that many concurrent players, since the Alicization project was know by very few people and possibly with no plans on expading for massive access (not that it couldn't, but why would it?). But Yui's bullshit is still up. Her knowledge and capabilities seem all too convenient, even if she's an AI from the original Cardinal system. She's literally a hack. Most of what I said was explained on the anime on the first episodes, but it was on the beginning of last season so that's probably why most people don't remember it. But I put more details as well since I have the information about the LN, which unfortunately, the anime don't do a good job many times to convey all the relevant information (which is why I began to read the LN after the first season of Alicization, as I saw that there was much more and some information was lacking, including characterization, worldbuilding and other details) And Rath can use all of this because they are using a supercomputer in their base to be able to do all of this process for the Fluctlights on the cluster, the STL and all the process of Underworld. Dannny said: This episode was a blast. More harem shit, more nonsensical explanations and more asspulls. The holy trinity all in one. I don't know what episode you saw if that's your thinking. madmonkskillz said: So I see a lot of people asking who the guy and the fairy are at the end, and everyone is saying it's Eiji and Yuna. My question is, where are you guys getting that info? I didn't read the LN but I was under the impression that they weren't canon to it, but I did know that the movie is canon to the anime. So those two being Eiji and Yuna, I get and I'm down for, but I would just like some clarification on how we know this to be true. The movie is canon and it's between Mother Rosario and Alicization. It's being incorporated into the anime in Alicization but it wasn't on the original source since the movie was launched like 10 years after Alicization began lol |
Daniel_Naumov said: Hylianticipated said: Lol this. The story and antagonist of this season is so retarded it hurts. "Oh no! Help! The Americans! REEEEE!" It's so annoying. The same story would have been much more compelling if they didn't make the SDF vs US military so black and white and instead made it a very gray battle with equally compelling viewpoints, and these kids just got tangled up in it. And yeah, that ED is amazing and that speech was corny as hell. Wait what? SDF vs US? Where?! Are we watching the same series? "a very gray battle"? SDF and U.S.A. army are a definition of grey. But wait there is more... "compelling VIEWPOINTS"?! The guys are a military! They are either socially worthless or utterly retarded and should be filling prisons or labour camps or are psychopaths. Antagonist, if you have failed to perceive, is a psychopath, and is not going to turn Alice over to U.S. either way..... .... Ooooh I get it. You are upset about U.S. army being portrayed as villainy as it is. Okay then, you almost had me. Just for you, on this special occasion, words of wisdom: "Nationalism is a puny man's solace - only lacking and hollow take pride in being a part of a group, for which they have done nothing to help make it something to be proud of". Are you kidding or are you just genuinely retarded? You know nothing of good writing if you are defending this shit. The entire problem IS that they have to make every antagonist a psychopath because they can't write a compelling narrative that actually draws in the reader/watcher. All of the current and past antagonists are just brainless villains with no motives whatsoever aside from being evil, leaving nothing but a bland reason to fight. "Oh no, mr baddie has appeared! Yay, Kirito and friends will save the day!! Such friendship and love! They can do it!" The whole scenario and the series as a whole is ridiculous, unrealistic, filled with plot holes, and is perpetually lacking self-awareness. It's stupid and childish, and so are you. |
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Hylianticipated said: Daniel_Naumov said: Wait what? SDF vs US? Where?! Are we watching the same series? "a very gray battle"? SDF and U.S.A. army are a definition of grey. But wait there is more... "compelling VIEWPOINTS"?! The guys are a military! They are either socially worthless or utterly retarded and should be filling prisons or labour camps or are psychopaths. Antagonist, if you have failed to perceive, is a psychopath, and is not going to turn Alice over to U.S. either way..... .... Ooooh I get it. You are upset about U.S. army being portrayed as villainy as it is. Okay then, you almost had me. Just for you, on this special occasion, words of wisdom: "Nationalism is a puny man's solace - only lacking and hollow take pride in being a part of a group, for which they have done nothing to help make it something to be proud of". Are you kidding or are you just genuinely retarded? You know nothing of good writing if you are defending this shit. The entire problem IS that they have to make every antagonist a psychopath because they can't write a compelling narrative that actually draws in the reader/watcher. All of the current and past antagonists are just brainless villains with no motives whatsoever aside from being evil, leaving nothing but a bland reason to fight. "Oh no, mr baddie has appeared! Yay, Kirito and friends will save the day!! Such friendship and love! They can do it!" The whole scenario and the series as a whole is ridiculous, unrealistic, filled with plot holes, and is perpetually lacking self-awareness. It's stupid and childish, and so are you. And yet you are here after 70 episodes watching this anime that you clearly hate instead of dropping it. Amazing. Boggles my mind how people like you exists on this community and that loves to lose their time with such things instead of using your time with things you like. But no, let's see over 70 episodes for a thing that you clearly hate since the beginning. Like I said, amazing that such a comportment exists, makes me wonder if people like you are a masochist. Regardless, of course you won't understand anything and think there's plot holes when all the information is on the original material as the anime loves to cut down important information that creates plot holes like in last season when they cut down the development of Eugeo and his family. |
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Nemesis16 said: Hylianticipated said: Are you kidding or are you just genuinely retarded? You know nothing of good writing if you are defending this shit. The entire problem IS that they have to make every antagonist a psychopath because they can't write a compelling narrative that actually draws in the reader/watcher. All of the current and past antagonists are just brainless villains with no motives whatsoever aside from being evil, leaving nothing but a bland reason to fight. "Oh no, mr baddie has appeared! Yay, Kirito and friends will save the day!! Such friendship and love! They can do it!" The whole scenario and the series as a whole is ridiculous, unrealistic, filled with plot holes, and is perpetually lacking self-awareness. It's stupid and childish, and so are you. And yet you are here after 70 episodes watching this anime that you clearly hate instead of dropping it. Amazing. Boggles my mind how people like you exists on this community and that loves to lose their time with such things instead of using your time with things you like. But no, let's see over 70 episodes for a thing that you clearly hate since the beginning. Like I said, amazing that such a comportment exists, makes me wonder if people like you are a masochist. Regardless, of course you won't understand anything and think there's plot holes when all the information is on the original material as the anime loves to cut down important information that creates plot holes like in last season when they cut down the development of Eugeo and his family. People like you are the worst. "If you don't like it then why are you here?" Shut the fuck up. Just because someone has valid criticisms of a show/series with objective flaws doesn't mean they hate the entire thing. Not everyone is a blind sycophant like you who will defend every aspect of your favorite manga/anime regardless of its problems. You're the same kind of person that gets offended when people DO drop an anime after a single issue. If everyone followed your advice and dropped every anime, manga, movie, show, game, etc. after a single thing they didn't like, big or small, then nobody would be critical of entertainment and it would stagnate. It boggles MY mind how people like YOU still exist. I can't criticize any anime without one of you damage-control freaks telling me to just leave if I don't like it and that I must be a "masochist" to continue watching. I'm not a masochist, I just don't ignore flaws when I see them. You should try it sometime. |
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| Great speech, great hype, not so cheap twist and thrill And, great eps. I've always wondering how do other players really think about SAO survivors, and there we go... Gabriel is no more a human (I wish I had known this earlier) But still, there are a few details that it should have done more properly.... Can't wait until next week. Hikari. Sounds promising. |
| as much as i enjoyed seeing the friends again, i completely zoned out on Lisbeth's speech when it was obvious at the end anyway |
Hylianticipated said: Nemesis16 said: And yet you are here after 70 episodes watching this anime that you clearly hate instead of dropping it. Amazing. Boggles my mind how people like you exists on this community and that loves to lose their time with such things instead of using your time with things you like. But no, let's see over 70 episodes for a thing that you clearly hate since the beginning. Like I said, amazing that such a comportment exists, makes me wonder if people like you are a masochist. Regardless, of course you won't understand anything and think there's plot holes when all the information is on the original material as the anime loves to cut down important information that creates plot holes like in last season when they cut down the development of Eugeo and his family. People like you are the worst. "If you don't like it then why are you here?" Shut the fuck up. Just because someone has valid criticisms of a show/series with objective flaws doesn't mean they hate the entire thing. Not everyone is a blind sycophant like you who will defend every aspect of your favorite manga/anime regardless of its problems. You're the same kind of person that gets offended when people DO drop an anime after a single issue. If everyone followed your advice and dropped every anime, manga, movie, show, game, etc. after a single thing they didn't like, big or small, then nobody would be critical of entertainment and it would stagnate. It boggles MY mind how people like YOU still exist. I can't criticize any anime without one of you damage-control freaks telling me to just leave if I don't like it and that I must be a "masochist" to continue watching. I'm not a masochist, I just don't ignore flaws when I see them. You should try it sometime. Huh, the girl is really angry, scray, even put out things on profile. :) Btw, none of what you said is a "objective flaw or problem", everything has an explanation and I said it with the information of the own anime and others from the original material. Not my fault if you can't remember things or didn't take your time to look if many of those things didn't appear before. Also, I love how I'm the "psychopathic" fanboy here when I hate Fairy Dance and only find Aincrad and Phantom Bullet fine. And of course, you made it private now but you gave bigger scores for many seasons of SAO compared to me, like the first one which I gave 6. lmao Really shows how I am a "fanboy" when I pretty much only really like arcs like Alicization and Mother Rosario, which the first one much more due to the Light Novel content than the anime itself. |
Nemesis16 said: Hylianticipated said: People like you are the worst. "If you don't like it then why are you here?" Shut the fuck up. Just because someone has valid criticisms of a show/series with objective flaws doesn't mean they hate the entire thing. Not everyone is a blind sycophant like you who will defend every aspect of your favorite manga/anime regardless of its problems. You're the same kind of person that gets offended when people DO drop an anime after a single issue. If everyone followed your advice and dropped every anime, manga, movie, show, game, etc. after a single thing they didn't like, big or small, then nobody would be critical of entertainment and it would stagnate. It boggles MY mind how people like YOU still exist. I can't criticize any anime without one of you damage-control freaks telling me to just leave if I don't like it and that I must be a "masochist" to continue watching. I'm not a masochist, I just don't ignore flaws when I see them. You should try it sometime. Huh, the girl is really angry, scray, even put out things on profile. :) Btw, none of what you said is a "objective flaw or problem", everything has an explanation and I said it with the information of the own anime and others from the original material. Not my fault if you can't remember things or didn't take your time to look if many of those things didn't appear before. Also, I love how I'm the "psychopathic" fanboy here when I hate Fairy Dance and only find Aincrad and Phantom Bullet fine. And of course, you made it private now but you gave bigger scores for many seasons of SAO compared to me, like the first one which I gave 6. lmao Really shows how I am a "fanboy" when I pretty much only really like arcs like Alicization and Mother Rosario, which the first one much more due to the Light Novel content than the anime itself. I said sycophantic not psychopathic. Learn to read, they are very different words. Speaking of illiterate, if you're stalking my profile you should know that I'm a dude. And congrats, you're just proving my point that I can like a series and still criticize it when it is being retarded. And yes, people like you don't deserve an opinion when you say shit like that. I've felt that way for a long while, you're just the latest brainlet to inspire me to write about it on my account since I'm currently logged in. You're welcome, stalker princess. |
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Just because someone has valid criticisms of a show/series with objective flaws doesn't mean they hate the entire thing. @Hylianticipated Er...not to start anything but when one says "the series as a whole is stupid and childish", it does sound like you hate the entire thing. If you don't, that sentence is a tad misleading. |
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Chiibi said: Just because someone has valid criticisms of a show/series with objective flaws doesn't mean they hate the entire thing. @Hylianticipated Er...not to start anything but when one says "the series as a whole is stupid and childish", it does sound like you hate the entire thing. If you don't, that sentence is a tad misleading. It was said in the context of their antagonists through the entire series. Even the seasons I liked they were stupid and childish with how they wrote the story, particularly the villains. I say all the time that SAO and other anime are genuinely not very good from a narrative and character standpoint, but they are fun and easy to watch so I enjoy them regardless of their flaws. Besides, ever heard of "it's so bad it's good"? SAO isn't quite that level of bad, but it's not misleading to say you like something that is dumb. |
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Oh ok. sure, this season's Choujin Koukousei-tachi is really stupid trash and I love it lmao |
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