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Dec 11, 2019 4:00 PM
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I hope Myne can get rich enough save herself and buy Fredia out of her concubinage
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The very last scene worries me.
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Dec 11, 2019 7:02 PM

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I still feel like the dad will send Main rather than see her die. Any right family would want to see their member live longer even if they'll be apart from each other.

This series has taken quite a turn, and I'm not complaining.
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Dec 11, 2019 7:22 PM
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Ahh, what a great episode. I love how Main getting close to her family now that she even tells the truth about her illness and want to stay by their side until the day she dies. Man, that hits me hard.
Dec 11, 2019 7:44 PM

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I can feel water in my eyes.

This was a really sad episode. Before anything started, Frieda said that she's going to be a concubine after she comes of age. She says it like it's a normal thing. To live, she has to become someone's mistress, possibly for the rest of her life. And I don't know whether the Guild Master did it to make sure she lives a more comfortable life and LIVES, or if he did it because it was an investment like Frieda said.

The moments with her family were the saddest. Didn't expect this anime to bring me to tears when I first started and dropped it then subsequently picked it up again. So Myne has decided to live and eventually die with her family rather than live a long life away from them. I might've chosen the same thing too.

Turi crying and hugging because she's still a kid. Her mother wanting to cry but holding back her tears as best she can. But her dad putting up a strong front because he's the head of the family and a parent and needs to be strong and supportive. That last scene really hit me when he was drinking and probably crying alone.

Damn, one of the best anime this season.
Dec 11, 2019 8:46 PM

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With Myne in this condition, it is for uncertain where the Devouring will take her, but in all their effort, Benno, Lutz, even Frieda managed to keep her safe, but the magical items won't keep her from that state however for long.

A lifetime contract for the Devoured, of being limited to a noble, is what Frieda has to accept, being a concubine in exchange for a stretched life investment to magical items. Surely Myne doesn't want that kind of life...

To make her limited year-long recuperation (before it strikes again) purposeful, Myne spending her time with Frieda before her baptism. Even with her family, this felt like her 2nd home. Onward to the second winter, and the harsh truth could not be harder to swallow to tell her family. But it's better to perish in the family than at some strangers focal point. It's just sad that her time is quite short, and the family has to suffer at the loss of Myne. Oh the feels.

With the confirmation of the Season 2 announcement, all can be said that she's well, but it's the 3 episodes remaining to tell of her recovery story.
Dec 11, 2019 10:17 PM
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Sad knowing she only has a year
Dec 11, 2019 11:29 PM
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Definitely got watery-eyed there! Got to feel for the father in particular. No wonder why she wouldn't want to spill this out. Just having a year to live sounds horrid, yikes. I have a feeling she'd fall ill again with a lose of heart, what a tough position it must be.

Frida and the Guild Leader's attempt to snub Maine was hilarious though. Of course, Benno wasn't going to put that aside xD.

Frida's been a really nice company over the last couple of episodes or so. It's sad she'll soon be away from her family though. She sure is a tough girl.

3 more episodes to go, I wonder how this'll come to an end.
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Dec 12, 2019 1:49 AM

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Windman said:
Ok food for thought but since the Devouring can only be postponed by magical items that basically absorb the excess "mana" out of the body, couldnt it be cured by just simply training to learn magic or at the very least coming into contact with Tronbe as a replacement for that bracelet?

That's the thing, nobles horde magic and wont teach it to non nobles or each time a kid is born with the devouring they would become a noble making the whole caste not as impresive thus removing power from them.
As for tronbe, they don't know and it's only been hinted that it absorbs mana.
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I hope Myne can get rich enough save herself and buy Fredia out of her concubinage

Same here, like I tell my mom just the printing press or gun powder would make her richer than most nobles.
Dec 12, 2019 4:53 AM
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When I started this series I was determined and thought "I want to see Main make a book!"

But now I'm angry and think "I want to see Main dismantle this bullshit system and take power away from the nobles and give it to the working people!"
Dec 12, 2019 6:28 AM

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Hylianticipated said:
Another great episode. I wonder when that one guy from the first episode will show up. I'm sure he's the noble she will be contracted with and he'll be more reasonable that most...hopefully. 7 year old concubines...damn.


Not exactly, Baptism happens at 7 yes but the coming of age ceremony is at 15.
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Dec 12, 2019 6:36 AM

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The episode was already sad halfway through but then the confession to her family *sobbing intesifies*

judging by the end I would guess that this time her father will come up with a third option.
Dec 12, 2019 6:57 AM

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I cried so hard T_T especially when she said that she only have 1 year left. :(
Also, I noticed that rank of this series went up! O_O I didn't expected it! It used to be #2300+, now it's #1937 :) <3
I'm so happy more people are liking this anime, same with me :)
Dec 12, 2019 6:57 AM
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Uuugh I was holding back to say it but now with this I can say it, also this is a comparison so if you want to know, just ask me.

Damn this is the worst luck I have ever seen, first in the last season you’ve been possessed by a God who wants to enslave the humanity only because you’re special and now the Devouring fever wants to kill you and she needs to make harder decisions now.

Seriously I’m worried about Main because she’s too young to die, also she needs to choose if go to nobility or her family, I’m glad that she chooses her family but still I hope she will be fine.
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A relly emotional episode, that last part hit me hard.
Dec 12, 2019 7:44 AM

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Zel_Ezl said:
I cried so hard T_T especially when she said that she only have 1 year left. :(
Also, I noticed that rank of this series went up! O_O I didn't expected it! It used to be #2300+, now it's #1937 :) <3
I'm so happy more people are liking this anime, same with me :)

Yep, the score is constantly rising!

Like when episode 10 aired, the score was 7.33. 1 week later, yesterday it was already 7.42. And today it's 7.44!

I really hope it will get close to 8, or even reach it
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Leo said:
So Freida will be a concubine. That's sad.



this wasn't uncommon in "her times" probable she would the same even if she didn't had Devouring but at least she would do this on her terms, now I hope that at least "her man" is not some stereotypical old ugly bastard.
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Seygneur said:
Judging by the end I would guess that this time her father will come up with a third option.


Same but I hope that her father will not do something stupid, like steal from nobility.
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- Monochrome Days (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
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-Aincrad- said:
Zel_Ezl said:
I cried so hard T_T especially when she said that she only have 1 year left. :(
Also, I noticed that rank of this series went up! O_O I didn't expected it! It used to be #2300+, now it's #1937 :) <3
I'm so happy more people are liking this anime, same with me :)

Yep, the score is constantly rising!

Like when episode 10 aired, the score was 7.33. 1 week later, yesterday it was already 7.42. And today it's 7.44!

I really hope it will get close to 8, or even reach it


I've been a fan of this anime ever since the first episode :) and I'm not really expecting..
I'm just happy people are appreciating the series :) Because there are few anime series out there who had low score, like below 7 that are fun and enjoyable to watch :)
Dec 12, 2019 8:15 AM

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Windman said:
Ok food for thought but since the Devouring can only be postponed by magical items that basically absorb the excess "mana" out of the body, couldnt it be cured by just simply training to learn magic or at the very least coming into contact with Tronbe as a replacement for that bracelet?

That's the thing, nobles horde magic and wont teach it to non nobles or each time a kid is born with the devouring they would become a noble making the whole caste not as impresive thus removing power from them.

@Windman

and this is how magic stay only with nobility.

but joking aside CURE for the Devouring sound like some noble shit. Maybe even the Devouring is something common and not dangerous in nobles kids (something like chickenpox in our time/world).
Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.116/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.216/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.129/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.26 - Finished)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.93/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
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Nieznajomy43 said:
Luxeraph said:

That's the thing, nobles horde magic and wont teach it to non nobles or each time a kid is born with the devouring they would become a noble making the whole caste not as impresive thus removing power from them.

@Windman

and this is how magic stay only with nobility.

but joking aside CURE for the Devouring sound like some noble shit. Maybe even the Devouring is something common and not dangerous in nobles kids (something like chickenpox in our time/world).

I thought the devouring was just the condition of having mana. So basically all the nobles have devouring too.

Because you always need a magical tool to perform magic which gets rid of your mana, all the commoners with mana die before their baptism and therefore having mana is treated as an illness for them. This is why there are no commoners capable of using magic. Nobles have magical tools they can use to perform magic that uses up their mana, so devouring is not a problem for them and therefore not considered to be an illness. Rather, it's the normal to them (since magic is mostly hereditary).

Or perhaps only particularly strong magic users have the devouring? However, in that case it's a little curious why there aren't commoners with mana that don't have the devouring. Or perhaps they just don't know they have mana since you need magic tools to use magic?
Dec 12, 2019 10:18 AM

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That last scene with them hugging in bed but dad alone feeling powerless got me really good, so glad this show managed to get a second season.
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Let's not forget that Mayne is an adult who took over a child's body who died so she's pretty much very mature mentally and emotionally. With that said; She was really impressed with Frieda's decision and resolve moving forward. A mere child would simply break down and give up when faced with such a choice.
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From what I understand so far, Devouring is the condition where you have too much mana in your body that it's deathly. Normal amount of mana do nothing to you. There are magic tools to treat Devouring, that means yeah, among those magician nobles there are those who have too much mana that even if they use magic everyday, it's not enough to keep their massive mana at bay.

Also, there's probability, unlike many other isekai, people here can't cast magic easily. You need long and proper training for that. That's why, maybe there are light cases of Devouring, where magic tools are needed only for children. As they grow up and become capable of using magic, they don't need it anymore. By this theory, maybe there are also commoners who actually have normal mana, but never know it until they die of natural cause
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This was a great but really sad episode. Really hit it home how the devouring can ruin lives. I'm impressed that Main eventually told her family of the condition, but I'm sure I've felt like she should in the past because this is her new family. Who else will console her when she's in need?

I'm pretty confident that she'll find a cure for it. The question is, what? There's been many theories posted above, including training herself to use mana but it all hinges on what happens in her baptism and who she impresses imo. Looking forward to the next episode!
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Just letting everyone know that this is the real score of this episode



Someone with those sh*tty fake account down voted it again, same as last weeks episode
That was at 90% too

How pathetic can a human being get?
Whoever keeps doing this, to several airing anime actually, get a life you sad loser.
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Is it really going to have 14 episodes? Or they'll simply release 1 or 2 episodes out of that count as an OVA. If it's really 14 episodes, it means the last ep is going to air on Jan 1/2 (depending on your time zone) which is a little unbelievable because Japan is big on celebrating New Year's...
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Is it really going to have 14 episodes? Or they'll simply release 1 or 2 episodes out of that count as an OVA. If it's really 14 episodes, it means the last ep is going to air on Jan 1/2 (depending on your time zone) which is a little unbelievable because Japan is big on celebrating New Year's...

Last 2 episodes will be aired together.
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CG said:
Is it really going to have 14 episodes? Or they'll simply release 1 or 2 episodes out of that count as an OVA. If it's really 14 episodes, it means the last ep is going to air on Jan 1/2 (depending on your time zone) which is a little unbelievable because Japan is big on celebrating New Year's...

Last 2 episodes will be aired together.
Oh, I see. Then it makes sense. Thanks.
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Trully best anime out of this season for me :"(
Dec 13, 2019 4:24 AM

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Was nice to see Maine show genuine affection to her dad.
What a strong episode. Made me teary-eyed.
Dec 13, 2019 9:21 AM

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Another great episode. I wonder when that one guy from the first episode will show up. I'm sure he's the noble she will be contracted with and he'll be more reasonable that most...hopefully. 7 year old concubines...damn.


Not exactly, Baptism happens at 7 yes but the coming of age ceremony is at 15.


Oh good lol that's much better and consistent with historical norms. Still sucks that she has to become a concubine, but still.
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She had some great character development so far and show keeps getting better as well. I hope it continues to only get better tbh.

Btw does anyone know when OSTs are released or the name of the OST at the end of the episode if it is already out?
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@Hylianticipated
@ryan5514

Coming of age ceremony is at their 16th birthday, not 15th.
As ryan5514 said, 7 yo is baptism, children are registered as full-fledged citizens and gets the rights and duties coming with it, including being able to become apprentice.

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@Hylianticipated
@ryan5514

Coming of age ceremony is at their 16th birthday, not 15th.
As ryan5514 said, 7 yo is baptism, children are registered as full-fledged citizens and gets the rights and duties coming with it, including being able to become apprentice.


I believe that it's fifteen, or at the very least you're an adult at fifteen.
, although that uses web novel chapter 049 as a source which is somewhat different to the light novel version of the chapter as it says
but it doesn't look like the author changed it from fifteen because later on in the LN it says

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Maybe not the best, but clearly my favorite since episode 1...

PS: i need those ending art cards phisically.

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Hurwitz said:
Zefyris said:
@Hylianticipated
@ryan5514

Coming of age ceremony is at their 16th birthday, not 15th.
As ryan5514 said, 7 yo is baptism, children are registered as full-fledged citizens and gets the rights and duties coming with it, including being able to become apprentice.


I believe that it's fifteen, or at the very least you're an adult at fifteen.
, although that uses web novel chapter 049 as a source which is somewhat different to the light novel version of the chapter as it says
but it doesn't look like the author changed it from fifteen because later on in the LN it says


Hmmm...
I think that's similar to how depending of when you're born you graduate from high school either at 17 or 18. The coming of age is happening only once per year so many children should be either close of 16 or even 16 at that time.
That's the only way I can see it adding up for some characters seen later in the story.
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Zefyris said:
Hurwitz said:

I believe that it's fifteen, or at the very least you're an adult at fifteen.
, although that uses web novel chapter 049 as a source which is somewhat different to the light novel version of the chapter as it says
but it doesn't look like the author changed it from fifteen because later on in the LN it says


Hmmm...
I think that's similar to how depending of when you're born you graduate from high school either at 17 or 18. The coming of age is happening only once per year so many children should be either close of 16 or even 16 at that time.
That's the only way I can see it adding up for some characters seen later in the story.

I can't say whether it's different in the LN than it is in the WN (because it's much more of a pain for me to source) but I wouldn't bet on it, especially because it aligns with your thinking.

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Well that became sad all of a sudden...
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This show has gotten so much better. At the start it was chill, relaxed (pretty slow), and enjoyable, and now by the end it's become so much more than expected. can't help but love this show. Haven't seen beastars yet, but as of now this is my AOTS :')
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no no no no no no!!! NO MORE TRAGEDY AND SAD MOMENTS PLS!!!
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Again, nobles always have many privileges 😞
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Damn...The feels
The last scene made me really tear up.
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Nieznajomy43 said:
Leo said:
So Freida will be a concubine. That's sad.

this wasn't uncommon in "her times" probable she would the same even if she didn't had Devouring but at least she would do this on her terms, now I hope that at least "her man" is not some stereotypical old ugly bastard.

Frieda has the luck to come from the wealthiest commoner's family, so her grandfather can negotiate for good conditions for getting her a husband. I'm assuming part of the negotiations were about the status Frieda would have (not a 5th-6th wife), how well she would be treated (like the right to own her own shop), and so on, including the age of her future husband (if her grandfather isn't an asshole...). For example, maybe her grandfather negotiated with a noble family, so that Frieda would become their son's wife.

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Literally placing her life on their hands sounds terrifying. With the possibility of the noble to tire of her and no longer supply magical items. Am hopeful a magically binding contract is made so they're forced to abide by it for the rest of her life.

I haven't read the novel, but in the manga it was mentionned that Frieda's marriage is a contract they have with the noble, so I'm assuming it's a binding one, making sure that he'll have to provide magical items for the rest of Frieda's life.
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daedalron said:
Nieznajomy43 said:

this wasn't uncommon in "her times" probable she would the same even if she didn't had Devouring but at least she would do this on her terms, now I hope that at least "her man" is not some stereotypical old ugly bastard.

Frieda has the luck to come from the wealthiest commoner's family, so her grandfather can negotiate for good conditions for getting her a husband. I'm assuming part of the negotiations were about the status Frieda would have (not a 5th-6th wife), how well she would be treated (like the right to own her own shop), and so on, including the age of her future husband (if her grandfather isn't an asshole...). For example, maybe her grandfather negotiated with a noble family, so that Frieda would become their son's wife.

Mica-Chan10 said:
Literally placing her life on their hands sounds terrifying. With the possibility of the noble to tire of her and no longer supply magical items. Am hopeful a magically binding contract is made so they're forced to abide by it for the rest of her life.

I haven't read the novel, but in the manga it was mentionned that Frieda's marriage is a contract they have with the noble, so I'm assuming it's a binding one, making sure that he'll have to provide magical items for the rest of Frieda's life.


We still didn't see any nobles so we don't know how they behave (but I highly doubt they will act like in Black Clover).
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- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.93/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
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Poor dad :S

Hang in there Myne.

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*coughs* eXcuse me?! concubine? at the age of... 6?! OR HOWEVER OLD SHE IS? (she looks as young as main i'm done-)
bruh this anime is a fking sad story book, her dad drinking thoooo
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*coughs* eXcuse me?! concubine? at the age of... 6?! OR HOWEVER OLD SHE IS? (she looks as young as main i'm done-)
bruh this anime is a fking sad story book, her dad drinking thoooo

she's seven (only a few months older than Myne), but she' ll be concubine after her coming of age ceremony, which is held when they reach 15-16 so she isn't becoming a concubine right away.
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Zefyris said:
Cazqui-09 said:
*coughs* eXcuse me?! concubine? at the age of... 6?! OR HOWEVER OLD SHE IS? (she looks as young as main i'm done-)
bruh this anime is a fking sad story book, her dad drinking thoooo

she's seven (only a few months older than Myne), but she' ll be concubine after her coming of age ceremony, which is held when they reach 15-16 so she isn't becoming a concubine right away.

thank god but still... the p word << 15-16, that ain't it fellas...
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