Chihayafuru
Titanx2111 said: It has already occurred twice as once the score was raising but war no.2 is no more (maybe). Let's see if war no.3 will start.Hey guys! The troll bots seem to have stopped their attack on Chihayafuru 3. If you guys like the series even in the slightest, please consider rating it 9 or 10 to counter the 1/10 scores. You can always go back to change your score to whatever you think is suitable if and when this mess gets sorted. I realise that this is only a temporary solution, and that the bot attack could resume if the score rises. But it will also display our strength as a community, and if the same incident occurs twice for the same show, MAL will have to take quicker actions. Thanks for your time!! |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| You do realise that's hypocritical, right? Boosting an entry that way is committing the same kind of score manipulation that you're complaining about. I'd also argue that attempting that would only provoke further retaliation (as it already has) -- it's a vicious cycle, and that would only cause it to keep on turning. A long-term solution is being worked on right now (there isn't a magic Fix button that some people seem to assume we have), so please wait it out. This would only create more work to resolve the issue. Although I'm not personally attached to Chihayafuru, it annoys me as much as anyone else, so I understand your feelings. However, emotional knee-jerk responses are rarely helpful. |
ShymanderNov 28, 2019 1:56 AM
Titanx2111 said: Hey guys! The troll bots seem to have stopped their attack on Chihayafuru 3. If you guys like the series even in the slightest, please consider rating it 9 or 10 to counter the 1/10 scores. You can always go back to change your score to whatever you think is suitable if and when this mess gets sorted. I realise that this is only a temporary solution, and that the bot attack could resume if the score rises. But it will also display our strength as a community, and if the same incident occurs twice for the same show, MAL will have to take quicker actions. Thanks for your time!! This is in my opinion as stupid as creating bots to downvote the series. When the problem gets solved the normal score with return eventually. Boosters are no better than downers... |
| Yeah no this ain’t helping. Two wrongs don’t make a right |
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| I have been giving Chihayafuru 10/10 even before the bots happen. |
| Best way to show your love would be to talk about the show where you can, raise awareness about this unjustified trolling scenario and of course post your reviews in here. When you scroll down an anime profile page and see only detailed review with 10,9,8 even 7 is decent, that's a good sign. Detailed and genuine reviews, because tbh I'm not gonna upvote a sketchy review, with either good or bad rating, just because it flatters my opinion about the show. |
| Not needed, there already have been bots spamming 10's. I'm starting to think this was a scheme by Chihayafuru fans to generate pity and emotionally manipulate people into giving 10's. Simultaneously spreading propoganda to the weak-minded that every other currently airing anime has a shit fandom or is a shit work. IwaOi-KHRStan said: I voted Chihayafuru with the maximum score, and vinlang saga 1 because it's shit, according to me. Chiahayafuru deservers even more than the maximum. Wow, calm down. Even favourites full of Haikyuu. Typical degenerate female anime fan. |
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| Well for me Chihayafuru 3 was 9/10 before the bot attack started |
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Esquirtit said: Way less than 1/1 botsNot needed, there already have been bots spamming 10's. Esquirtit said: A shitty speculation you're doing here and nothing more.I'm starting to think this was a scheme by Chihayafuru fans to generate pity and emotionally manipulate people into giving 10's. Simultaneously spreading propoganda to the weak-minded that every other currently airing anime has a shit fandom or is a shit work. Esquirtit said: What's that thing with Haikyuu?IwaOi-KHRStan said: I voted Chihayafuru with the maximum score, and vinlang saga 1 because it's shit, according to me. Chiahayafuru deservers even more than the maximum. Wow, calm down. Even favourites full of Haikyuu. Typical degenerate female anime fan. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Peeti said: Way less than 1/1 bots True. Peeti said: A shitty speculation you're doing here and nothing more. How do you know? Peeti said: What's that thing with Haikyuu Older women who think it's good only because it has attractive young boys. |
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Titanx2111 said: Hey guys! The troll bots seem to have stopped their attack on Chihayafuru 3. If you guys like the series even in the slightest, please consider rating it 9 or 10 to counter the 1/10 scores. You can always go back to change your score to whatever you think is suitable if and when this mess gets sorted. I realise that this is only a temporary solution, and that the bot attack could resume if the score rises. But it will also display our strength as a community, and if the same incident occurs twice for the same show, MAL will have to take quicker actions. Thanks for your time!! Not your personal army. Apart from that I like the series, but I don't rate anime I watch to counter-manipulate the ratings of some stupid living beings, but based on the overall quality, characters, story and enjoyment. If this season deserves a 9 or 10 I'll see when episode 24 is released. |
Esquirtit said: because any fan wouldn't have thought of downvoting it as it was already #1 in top anime airing list. Why a fan will bring his/her/etc. anime from number one spot.Peeti said: Way less than 1/1 bots True. Peeti said: A shitty speculation you're doing here and nothing more. How do you know? Peeti said: What's that thing with Haikyuu Older women who only think it's good because it has attractive young boys. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Peeti said: Esquirtit said: because any fan wouldn't have thought of downvoting it as it was already #1 in top anime airing list. Why a fan will bring his/her/etc. anime from number one spot.True. How do you know? Older women who only think it's good because it has attractive young boys. After the damage was already done, like 4-5% 1/10 votes, they brought it down even more with all their power. This is clearly not sarcasm by the way. |
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| I mean, it's has a perfect score already. 6.91. |
| Doing the same thing but in reverse won’t solve the problem, it’s even more immature |
| This is a vicious cycle. I think you should forgive people who did it, because they will realise that score is not the ultimate measurement. |
Esquirtit said: Not needed, there already have been bots spamming 10's. I'm starting to think this was a scheme by Chihayafuru fans to generate pity and emotionally manipulate people into giving 10's. Simultaneously spreading propoganda to the weak-minded that every other currently airing anime has a shit fandom or is a shit work. IwaOi-KHRStan said: I voted Chihayafuru with the maximum score, and vinlang saga 1 because it's shit, according to me. Chiahayafuru deservers even more than the maximum. Wow, calm down. Even favourites full of Haikyuu. Typical degenerate female anime fan. My man has Asuka - a heavily sexualized 14 year old girl in his favorites list and he's really calling women who like Haikyuu degenerates when Haikyuu doesn't have any fanservice of the guys. Typical degenerate male anime fan. |
ApricckNov 28, 2019 3:34 PM
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Apricck said: Esquirtit said: Not needed, there already have been bots spamming 10's. I'm starting to think this was a scheme by Chihayafuru fans to generate pity and emotionally manipulate people into giving 10's. Simultaneously spreading propoganda to the weak-minded that every other currently airing anime has a shit fandom or is a shit work. Wow, calm down. Even favourites full of Haikyuu. Typical degenerate female anime fan. My man has Asuka - a heavily sexualized 14 year old girl in his favorites list and he's really calling women who like Haikyuu degenerates when Haikyuu doesn't have any fanservice of the guys. Typical degenerate male anime fan. 1. Why does it matter that she's 14? She's German so it's legal. I like her because she's well-written in my opinion. 2. That woman is 28 and has a favourite list with multiple Haikyuu installments. We both know she makes her own fanservice. |
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| I just hope the mod/admin fix this problem while it still under current airing status. |
Lel0uchZer0 said: Shymander said: You do realise that's hypocritical, right? Boosting an entry that way is committing the same kind of score manipulation that you're complaining about. I'd also argue that attempting that would only provoke further retaliation (as it already has) -- it's a vicious cycle, and that would only cause it to keep on turning. A long-term solution is being worked on right now (there isn't a magic Fix button that some people seem to assume we have), so please wait it out. This would only create more work to resolve the issue. Although I'm not personally attached to Chihayafuru, it annoys me as much as anyone else, so I understand your feelings. However, emotional knee-jerk responses are rarely helpful. Boosting a series is not even 10% as bad as rating it 1/10 since 10/10 barely help the score while 1/10 bring it down fast It's simple maths Boosting is not the issue for MAL. Downvoting is I think that no one will question the maths part, but the act of boosting is the same of downvoting in the sense that it makes the average change arbitrarily by the will of just a few at the expenses of the general thoughts (or feeling) about an anime. It is like supporting vote rigging to prevent a dictator from being elected in the Chihayafuru case (I may be slightly exaggerating here...). If people disagree, they can write a review. |
Lel0uchZer0 said: Shymander said: You do realise that's hypocritical, right? Boosting an entry that way is committing the same kind of score manipulation that you're complaining about. I'd also argue that attempting that would only provoke further retaliation (as it already has) -- it's a vicious cycle, and that would only cause it to keep on turning. A long-term solution is being worked on right now (there isn't a magic Fix button that some people seem to assume we have), so please wait it out. This would only create more work to resolve the issue. Although I'm not personally attached to Chihayafuru, it annoys me as much as anyone else, so I understand your feelings. However, emotional knee-jerk responses are rarely helpful. Boosting a series is not even 10% as bad as rating it 1/10 since 10/10 barely help the score while 1/10 bring it down fast It's simole maths Boosting is not the issue for MAL. Downvoting is It's not about effect equivalence. Both methods are blatant score manipulation, doesn't matter if it's by 1.00 or 0.01. Boosting is 100% as much of an issue as downvoting, the latter is just more prevalent. Many of the accounts downvoting Chihayafuru are upvoting Boku no Hero Academia, so... |
Lel0uchZer0 said: Shymander said: It's not about effect equivalence. Both methods are blatant score manipulation, doesn't matter if it's by 1.00 or 0.01. Boosting is 100% as much of an issue as downvoting, the latter is just more prevalent. Many of the accounts downvoting Chihayafuru are upvoting Boku no Hero Academia, so... The effect equivalence DOES matter a lot what do you mean? You mean to tell me a 0.01 score manipulation is as bad as a 2.00 score manipulation? That's... literally the opposite of what I said. Any intentional score manipulation is bad, period. |
Esquirtit said: Apricck said: My man has Asuka - a heavily sexualized 14 year old girl in his favorites list and he's really calling women who like Haikyuu degenerates when Haikyuu doesn't have any fanservice of the guys. Typical degenerate male anime fan. 1. Why does it matter that she's 14? She's German so it's legal. I like her because she's well-written in my opinion. 2. That woman is 28 and has a favourite list with multiple Haikyuu installments. We both know she makes her own fanservice. Okay, so let's go by your fanfic here that this random woman who you know nothing about is into the underage boys in Haikyuu just because she likes the anime. Japan's age of consent is 13, so what makes her more of a degenerate than you for having Asuka in your favorites? |
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Apricck said: Esquirtit said: 1. Why does it matter that she's 14? She's German so it's legal. I like her because she's well-written in my opinion. 2. That woman is 28 and has a favourite list with multiple Haikyuu installments. We both know she makes her own fanservice. Okay, so let's go by your fanfic here that this random woman who you know nothing about is into the underage boys in Haikyuu just because she likes the anime. Japan's age of consent is 13, so what makes her more of a degenerate than you for having Asuka in your favorites? This whole discussion is nonsense. Why throwing law articles for 2D characters whose written age does not mean much? (for me, Asuka seems to be 12) Naru from Barakamon is a favorite character for 3,191 people on MAL. Should we call the police? |
| Those who give a high score just to boost a series are just as pathetic as those trolls. I gave Chihaya a 9 because I think the show deserves it. Grow up. |
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Meusnier said: Apricck said: Okay, so let's go by your fanfic here that this random woman who you know nothing about is into the underage boys in Haikyuu just because she likes the anime. Japan's age of consent is 13, so what makes her more of a degenerate than you for having Asuka in your favorites? This whole discussion is nonsense. Why throwing law articles for 2D characters whose written age does not mean much? (for me, Asuka seems to be 12) Naru from Barakamon is a favorite character for 3,191 people on MAL. Should we call the police? I agree that it's nonsense lol, watching a show with underage characters or liking them doesn't make you a pedophile or a pervert and it's ridiculous to argue that it does. |
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Lel0uchZer0 said: Shymander said: That's... literally the opposite of what I said. Any intentional score manipulation is bad, period. Yes but some score manipulation is worse than other score manipulation So not solving the 1 ratings because it should be done with the 10 ratings as well is not really justified It makes the score more disingenuous than it already was while creating more work to fix the problem. It's not "solving it" by any definition. You say that like there's a "right" score to bring it back to, but how would you know what that is, exactly? |
ShymanderNov 29, 2019 8:01 AM
Apricck said: Esquirtit said: 1. Why does it matter that she's 14? She's German so it's legal. I like her because she's well-written in my opinion. 2. That woman is 28 and has a favourite list with multiple Haikyuu installments. We both know she makes her own fanservice. Okay, so let's go by your fanfic here that this random woman who you know nothing about is into the underage boys in Haikyuu just because she likes the anime. Japan's age of consent is 13, so what makes her more of a degenerate than you for having Asuka in your favorites? It actually isn't though. Bruh why you take this so serious? Never heard of fujoshis? It's just a joke. |
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| But why? It's not a race. People who like the show know it's good regardless of the score. If the low score discourages people from finding or checking out the anime, well, usually people start with the first season so they should see that everything is fine there and by the time they reach the 3rd season their opinion will be already formed. If the score still has some influence on someone, it's their loss. Correcting the score just for the sake of some justice or whatever is pointless. Especially considering it will be corrected sooner or later through official means anyway. |
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Esquirtit said: Apricck said: Okay, so let's go by your fanfic here that this random woman who you know nothing about is into the underage boys in Haikyuu just because she likes the anime. Japan's age of consent is 13, so what makes her more of a degenerate than you for having Asuka in your favorites? It actually isn't though. Bruh why you take this so serious? Never heard of fujoshis? It's just a joke. It is pretty hard to tell it's a joke if it's right after a clearly serious statement lol |
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| Chihayafuru is good. Have a nice day. |
8-bit said: Chihayafuru is good. Have a nice day. The only good comment in this shitty forum. |
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| New admin update on the situation here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750#msg58736434 Kineta said: Yesterday, the development team and Luna+I reached an agreement on a first phase approach to combating the rating troll problem, with subsequent dev phases following the first to make the system more robust against malicious attacks. Development will begin next week and a site-wide announcement will be posted once the first phase of the system is deployed. Please give us a bit more time for the tech team to implement our numerous demands and for us to test the output to investigate any unanticipated problems. This issue is high priority and we would like it resolved as quickly as the community does. |
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