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Nov 26, 2019 7:37 PM
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SMH... Really? I mean it was already non-sensical, but the depths of the stupidity keep on going lower and lower. It's as if there's no fucking bottom. Downvoters, just stop already, you've achieved what you wanted. Now let the rest of this anime air in peace.
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Nov 26, 2019 7:43 PM
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Still waiting for the mod to reopen report illegitimate accout thread.
Nov 26, 2019 7:47 PM
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Still waiting for the mod to reopen report illegitimate accout thread.

Well it ain't gonna happen because.....they don't want to anymore? idk this supposed new system better get implemented fast
Nov 26, 2019 7:54 PM
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SMH... Really? I mean it was already non-sensical, but the depths of the stupidity keep on going lower and lower. It's as if there's no fucking bottom. Downvoters, just stop already, you've achieved what you wanted. Now let the rest of this anime air in peace.

Unfortunatelly... :( I'm guess that troll or trolls who keep on downvoting this one particular anime will get fired up even more seeing how their actions are pissing off a lot of people. Even those who are not watching Chihayafuru's 3rd season.
Nov 26, 2019 8:53 PM
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I checked stats and a 24% rated with 1 the serie that is not normal xd i have with a 9 this serie.
Nov 26, 2019 9:12 PM
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The mainland chinese are most likely the ones behind this, there's a news a few days ago that they're reportedly mad of Chihayafuru's author, Yuki Suetsugu because she retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting, a Hong Kong social activist

https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
花牌情緣 is Chihayafuru in chinese, on google translate it's translated as "Flower Love" of "Fantastic Love"
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Freiya3 said:
The mainland chinese are most likely the ones behind this, there's a news a few days ago that they're reportedly mad of Chihayafuru's author, Yuki Suetsugu because she retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting, a Hong Kong social activist

https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
花牌情緣 is Chihayafuru in chinese, on google translate it's translated as "Flower Love" of "Fantastic Love"


Timing not accurate. Chihayafuru down vote started at least since November 11 when it surpass Vinland Saga.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Author tweet only started 7 days ago,around November 20.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chihayafuru/comments/dymrff/all_chihayafuru_content_has_been_taken_down_from/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

So before the author tweet about Hong Kong,the down vote already happen.

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I won't be surprise if after this the troll decided to hide his intention by disguising himself pro China so that he can switch the blame onto others. He can do this by giving Chinese anime/manhua high rating in his bots or praise China in any form so that criticism deflected to the Chinese while he can protect his own favorite anime from criticism.

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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:
The mainland chinese are most likely the ones behind this, there's a news a few days ago that they're reportedly mad of Chihayafuru's author, Yuki Suetsugu because she retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting, a Hong Kong social activist

https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
花牌情緣 is Chihayafuru in chinese, on google translate it's translated as "Flower Love" of "Fantastic Love"


Timing not accurate. Chihayafuru down vote started at least since November 11 when it surpass Vinland Saga.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Author tweet only started 7 days ago,around November 20.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chihayafuru/comments/dymrff/all_chihayafuru_content_has_been_taken_down_from/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

So before the author tweet about Hong Kong,the down vote already happen.


No, that's not the author's tweet, that's a reddit post from someone that's not the author.

This picture below shows that the Chihayafuru's author retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting that makes the mainland chinese netizen angry, it's tweeted 1 day (1日) before the screen capture


And Agnes Chow Ting posted that tweet at Nov 13, 2019


So the longest possible time the Chihayafuru's author retweeted that was at Nov 14, 2019.
It's one day earlier from a "Chihayafuru 3 score problem" thread posted here on Myanimelist.

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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


Timing not accurate. Chihayafuru down vote started at least since November 11 when it surpass Vinland Saga.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Author tweet only started 7 days ago,around November 20.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chihayafuru/comments/dymrff/all_chihayafuru_content_has_been_taken_down_from/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

So before the author tweet about Hong Kong,the down vote already happen.


No, that's not the author's tweet, that's a reddit post from someone that's not the author.

This picture below shows that the Chihayafuru's author retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting that makes the mainland chinese netizen angry, it's tweeted 1 day (1日) before the screen capture


And Agnes Chow Ting posted that tweet at Nov 13, 2019


So the longest possible time the Chihayafuru's author retweeted that was at Nov 14, 2019.
It's one day earlier from a "Chihayafuru 3 score problem" thread posted here on Myanimelist.



Time line still not correct. It's not important when Agnes tweet it but rather when the author herself retweeted it. Even if we consider the author retweet it at earliest Nov 14,it still late a few days because the down vote has started on Nov 11.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Chihayafuru earliest down vote date=at least November 11
Author earliest POSSIBLE retweet date =Nov 14

We don't even know when does the author retweet it. Could be somewhere around Nov 14-Nov 20. Most news only report about author tweet 7 days ago.
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Now, this is seriously fuming! 😤

A heartfelt request to the mods to step up to this from me!
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni


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It could be both!
Maybe it originally started with vinland saga fanboy downvoting, but there was a break and the score did started to recover in the meantime a tweet happened and chinese bot started to downvote anime in retaliation. Originally the vinland saga fanboy upvoted bunch of anime and downvoted chihayafuru, but after the tweet only chihayafuru got downvoted without anything else being upvoted. Of course this is just a theory.

Regardless of who is doing it MAL should seriously do something about it like deleting the entry from DB and reinstating it and those that are watching it would just re-enter it that would fix the score issue.
They should open illegitimate account thread again until that promised solution gets implemented.
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People have too much time on their hands
Nov 26, 2019 11:39 PM

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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:


No, that's not the author's tweet, that's a reddit post from someone that's not the author.

This picture below shows that the Chihayafuru's author retweeted a post from Agnes Chow Ting that makes the mainland chinese netizen angry, it's tweeted 1 day (1日) before the screen capture


And Agnes Chow Ting posted that tweet at Nov 13, 2019


So the longest possible time the Chihayafuru's author retweeted that was at Nov 14, 2019.
It's one day earlier from a "Chihayafuru 3 score problem" thread posted here on Myanimelist.



Time line still not correct. It's not important when Agnes tweet it but rather when the author herself retweeted it. Even if we consider the author retweet it at earliest Nov 14,it still late a few days because the down vote has started on Nov 11.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Chihayafuru earliest down vote date=at least November 11
Author earliest POSSIBLE retweet date =Nov 14

We don't even know when does the author retweet it. Could be somewhere around Nov 14-Nov 20. Most news only report about author tweet 7 days ago.


In the link you brought.
Nov 11, 2019, The OP posted a screenshot there that shows Chihayafuru's at the same score with Vinland at 8.57

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And on Nov 13, 2019, a user named Meusnier posted that the scored instead raised +0.04

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In my comment before I stated that Nov 14, 2019 was the longest possible time the author retweeted that. But the earliest time was on Nov 13, 2019 as soon as Agnes Chow posted.
Also MyAnimeList seems to use California Time, so it's 16 hours behind Hong Kong. cmiiw.


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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


Time line still not correct. It's not important when Agnes tweet it but rather when the author herself retweeted it. Even if we consider the author retweet it at earliest Nov 14,it still late a few days because the down vote has started on Nov 11.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Chihayafuru earliest down vote date=at least November 11
Author earliest POSSIBLE retweet date =Nov 14

We don't even know when does the author retweet it. Could be somewhere around Nov 14-Nov 20. Most news only report about author tweet 7 days ago.


In the link you brought.
Nov 11, 2019, The OP posted a screenshot there that shows Chihayafuru's at the same score with Vinland at 8.57

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And on Nov 13, 2019, a user named Meusnier posted that the scored instead raised +0.04

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In my comment before I stated that Nov 14, 2019 was the longest possible time the author retweeted that. But the earliest time was at Nov 13, 2019 as soon as Agnes Chow posted.
Also MyAnimeList seems to use California Time, so it's 16 hours behind Hong Kong. cmiiw.



No the earliest time is still Nov 11 as stated by OP. Yes it tied with VS and the troll doesn't want Vinland Saga to share that position. Nov 13 is the date scores goes back and then Vinland dude (as Meusnier call him) realise his earlier downvoted does not work, he decided to do this more aggresively until now. That is why Meusnier stated he hope the troll does not find out because if he does, we all know he will downvoted it again which he does. We also still don't know if the author really retweet it on Nov 14. Nov 14 date is just speculation, I would like to see the author original retweet.
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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:


In the link you brought.
Nov 11, 2019, The OP posted a screenshot there that shows Chihayafuru's at the same score with Vinland at 8.57

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And on Nov 13, 2019, a user named Meusnier posted that the scored instead raised +0.04

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In my comment before I stated that Nov 14, 2019 was the longest possible time the author retweeted that. But the earliest time was at Nov 13, 2019 as soon as Agnes Chow posted.
Also MyAnimeList seems to use California Time, so it's 16 hours behind Hong Kong. cmiiw.



No the earliest time is still Nov 11. Yes it tied with VS and the troll doesn't want Vinland Saga to share that position. Nov 13 is the date scores goes back and then Vinland dude (as Meusnier call him) realise his earlier downvoted does not work, he decided to do this more aggresively until now. We also still don't know if the author really retweet it on Nov 14.


So where's the proof? I don't see any complain there that the score goes down brutally or whatsoever.
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No the earliest time is still Nov 11. Yes it tied with VS and the troll doesn't want Vinland Saga to share that position. Nov 13 is the date scores goes back and then Vinland dude (as Meusnier call him) realise his earlier downvoted does not work, he decided to do this more aggresively until now. We also still don't know if the author really retweet it on Nov 14.


So where's the proof? I don't see any complain there that the score goes down brutally or whatsoever.


And where's the proof author retweet it on Nov 14? Score goes brutally down when the troll realise his earlier attempts fail. What really matters that the down vote happen few days before Agnes tweet.
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Gorochu said:
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So where's the proof? I don't see any complain there that the score goes down brutally or whatsoever.


And where's the proof author retweet it on Nov 14? Score goes brutally down when the troll realise his earlier attempts fail.


Well, there above screenshots clearly showing a range of possible time she retweeted the post.
The earliest was Nov 13, 2019 as soon the Hong Konger posted that, and the latest was Nov 14, 2019 when the screen captured.

But you? what real proof you can bring? from as early as I posted this link
https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
You tried to deceived me.
How many times has been then that I proved you wrong?
What are you actually? a 50cent army?
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Freiya3 said:
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And where's the proof author retweet it on Nov 14? Score goes brutally down when the troll realise his earlier attempts fail.


Well, there above screenshots clearly showing a range of possible time she retweeted the post.
The earliest was Nov 13, 2019 as soon the Hong Konger posted that, and the latest was Nov 14, 2019 when the screen captured.

But you? what real proof you can bring? from as early as I posted this link
https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
You tried to deceived me.
How many times has been then that I proved you wrong?
What are you actually? a 50cent army?


You said possible time. Not actual evidence. You said is tweeted 1 day before the screen capture. Then what is the date of the screen capture? The screen capture could be on 20 Nov making author tweet on 19 Nov. Sorry but I cant read Chinese or Japanese so perhaps it's best if you print screen the author's actual retweet with the date and not Agnes. Agnes tweet time is irrelevant, the author one is the relevant one. I already brought up evidence that the down vote already happen even before Agnes make her tweet. 50 cent army? I defended and fighting for Chihayafuru even before all this Chinese conspiracy theory happen.

-edit-
The likejapan article date is 21 November. Since the retweet is 1 day before the screen capture, this means the retweet is on 20 November.
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Freiya3 said:


Well, there above screenshots clearly showing a range of possible time she retweeted the post.
The earliest was Nov 13, 2019 as soon the Hong Konger posted that, and the latest was Nov 14, 2019 when the screen captured.

But you? what real proof you can bring? from as early as I posted this link
https://www.likejapan.com/life/chihayafuru-nigehaji/
You tried to deceived me.
How many times has been then that I proved you wrong?
What are you actually? a 50cent army?


You said possible time. Not actual evidence. You said is tweeted 1 day before the screen capture. Then what is the date of the screen capture? The screen capture could be on 20 Nov making author tweet on 19 Nov. Sorry but I cant read Chinese or Japanese so perhaps it's best if you print screen the author's actual retweet with the date and not Agnes. Agnes tweet time is irrelevant, the author one is the relevant one. I already brought up evidence that the down vote already happen even before Agnes make her tweet. 50 cent army? I defended and fighting for Chihayafuru even before all this Chinese conspiracy theory happen.

-edit-
The likejapan article date is 21 November. Since the retweet is 1 day before the screen capture, this means the retweet is on 20 November.


ck.. ck.. ck..

First let's see this screen capture


It's the いいね (likes) tab of twitter page of Chihayafuru's Author.
You can see her username on the above is the same as this https://twitter.com/yuyu2000_0908?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
And below いいね tab there's a list of tweet she likes.
There we see a post by Agnes Chow Ting, and at the right of her username there's a date when she posted that tweet.
It's written 1日 which means it's 1 day ago.
On my previous post there's another screen capture (with white background) that let us know when is the day Agnes Chow posted that, which is on Nov 13, 2019.
So what is 1 day after Nov 13, 2019? of course it's Nov 14, 2019, and now we know when the screen's captured.
Understand?
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Yikes!

Talk about a nose dive in rankings...its not even in the top 50 best airing animes at the moment
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that's next level gaming. I mean trolling.
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Gorochu said:


You said possible time. Not actual evidence. You said is tweeted 1 day before the screen capture. Then what is the date of the screen capture? The screen capture could be on 20 Nov making author tweet on 19 Nov. Sorry but I cant read Chinese or Japanese so perhaps it's best if you print screen the author's actual retweet with the date and not Agnes. Agnes tweet time is irrelevant, the author one is the relevant one. I already brought up evidence that the down vote already happen even before Agnes make her tweet. 50 cent army? I defended and fighting for Chihayafuru even before all this Chinese conspiracy theory happen.

-edit-
The likejapan article date is 21 November. Since the retweet is 1 day before the screen capture, this means the retweet is on 20 November.


ck.. ck.. ck..

First let's see this screen capture


It's the いいね (likes) tab of twitter page of Chihayafuru's Author.
You can see her username on the above is the same as this https://twitter.com/yuyu2000_0908?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
And below いいね tab there's a list of tweet she likes.
There we see a post by Agnes Chow Ting, and at the right of her username there's a date when she posted that tweet.
It's written 1日 which means it's 1 day ago.
On my previous post there's another screen capture (with white background) that let us know when is the day Agnes Chow posted that, which is on Nov 13, 2019.
So what is 1 day after Nov 13, 2019? of course it's Nov 14, 2019, and now we know when the screen's captured.
Understand?


Alright so it's 14 November. That still couple of days short from the 11 November date when the down vote started.

Unless the moderator/admin themselves openly said the IP is from China(you can trace country location through IP right?),then I agree the Chinese are to be blame.

And for your info,Inoue Takehiko also support Hong Kong but his Slam Dunk didn't get down vote.

Can someone actually give me an credible English source that report what happen to Chihayafuru in China? I know the author tweet receive backlash but to what extent? The other English source come from Twitter/Reddit which is not reliable.
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All admins need to do is implement captcha code for account creating and then purge troll accounts. Problem solved.

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This is getting weird, each week I come to update my score and check the ratings, something must be done against this.
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All admins need to do is implement captcha code for account creating and then purge troll accounts. Problem solved.


Admin need to do cell phone verification. That is more effective.
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Now that's actually a disgusting drop.
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Freiya3 said:
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Time line still not correct. It's not important when Agnes tweet it but rather when the author herself retweeted it. Even if we consider the author retweet it at earliest Nov 14,it still late a few days because the down vote has started on Nov 11.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1810565

Chihayafuru earliest down vote date=at least November 11
Author earliest POSSIBLE retweet date =Nov 14

We don't even know when does the author retweet it. Could be somewhere around Nov 14-Nov 20. Most news only report about author tweet 7 days ago.


In the link you brought.
Nov 11, 2019, The OP posted a screenshot there that shows Chihayafuru's at the same score with Vinland at 8.57

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And on Nov 13, 2019, a user named Meusnier posted that the scored instead raised +0.04

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But actually chihayafuru fans are the one who sweat.
lmao
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You people are so paranoid about a ranking, like it matters or something.

Same with the SNK fans and FMAB.
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Freiya3 said:


In the link you brought.
Nov 11, 2019, The OP posted a screenshot there that shows Chihayafuru's at the same score with Vinland at 8.57

---------------------------

And on Nov 13, 2019, a user named Meusnier posted that the scored instead raised +0.04

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But actually chihayafuru fans are the one who sweat.
lmao


I was being ironic on the last sentence. It should be more or less clear (there was an allusion to the SnK/FMBA war of last summer). In the end, this incident might raise the public awareness about the existence of Chihayafuru, and help admins/mods to fix the rating system faster than expected for all anime/manga.
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I was being ironic on the last sentence. It should be more or less clear (there was an allusion to the SnK/FMBA war of last summer). In the end, this incident might raise the public awareness about the existence of Chihayafuru, and help admins/mods to fix the rating system faster than expected for all anime/manga.


Just joking me too, i love chihayafuru btw
and yeah i hope they fix the rating system soon :D
Nov 27, 2019 6:14 AM

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Mad lol, why does the rating matter that much, it's not even close to mainstream
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You people are so paranoid about a ranking, like it matters or something.

Same with the SNK fans and FMAB.


If you look at this botting bullshit and actually think it's fine and nothing needs to be done about it, then I don't know what to tell you.

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Mad lol, why does the rating matter that much, it's not even close to mainstream


Because high rating gets people's interest which brings in more viewers which boosts anime's popularity which can encourage the studio to release a sequel season. It's also about reputation.
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You know what hurts even more? If we remove all of the 1/10 scores, more than half of the votes are 9/10 and 10/10. Meaning if these stupid bastards didn’t exist, Chihayafuru 3 would have a score of at least 8.7 and probably higher!!!! But look at where it is now, it’s just depressing.
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Pakumen- said:
You people are so paranoid about a ranking, like it matters or something.

Same with the SNK fans and FMAB.

I am not sure what SNK is a short of, but for Full Metal Alchemist, most of the score are high. Less than 5% are 5 and below.

On Chihayafuru on the other hand, 66% are 8 and above, 7 hs 6.5%, 6 has 1.5 and 2-4 till four has less than 1% percent, but oops! It all changes in 1 with 24.6% and it keeps rising all the time. So, yeah, that looks more intentional


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It's a shame this is happening, hopefully something will be done at some point. Whilst I personally don't care about rankings/scores much, I would hate to see people be put off giving this a chance by seeing it having such a low score. Not to mention a higher score could help generate a bit more interest and give a boost to the anime/manga.
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On Chihayafuru on the other hand, 66% are 8 and above, 7 hs 6.5%, 6 has 1.5 and 2-4 till four has less than 1% percent, but oops! It all changes in 1 with 24.6% and it keeps rising all the time. So, yeah, that looks more intentional


Long story short. Due to the hype that SNK´s last season created, the score went to 9.23 at some point, being the highest on MAL over FMAB, however, the FMAB fans started to create fake account to downvote SNK with 1´s, until the series degraded down to 9.12. MAL Deleted the accounts (supposedly) and nowadays SNK holds a lower score. So yeah, for some reason FMAB is kinda sacred here and fans will always get in arms to put everything down (the same happened with Your Voice and Gintama).

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If you look at this botting bullshit and actually think it's fine and nothing needs to be done about it, then I don't know what to tell you.


Doing something is good, but bust a vein complaining and gettind mad for a score does not solve anything. It´s not like Madhouse is going to cancel the series if the score on MAL is less than 8.50, and there will be a solution, they just need time to get rid of everything. This is the same as review bombing, it just does not make sense, but if you are affected is even worse.

So my question is: Do the actual score affect your viewing experience?

If it´s no, then just be patient and don´t feed the trolls.
If it´s yes, I don´t know what to tell you.
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I'm not even watching that show but this is just ridiculious, how isn't getting rid of those bots a job for the mods?
Nov 27, 2019 12:32 PM
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This is disgusting, never have I been so disappointed in the community of trolls. They're just pathetic no lives who don't appreciate underrated animes like this.
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EfiChan said:

On Chihayafuru on the other hand, 66% are 8 and above, 7 hs 6.5%, 6 has 1.5 and 2-4 till four has less than 1% percent, but oops! It all changes in 1 with 24.6% and it keeps rising all the time. So, yeah, that looks more intentional


Long story short. Due to the hype that SNK´s last season created, the score went to 9.23 at some point, being the highest on MAL over FMAB, however, the FMAB fans started to create fake accounts to downvote SNK with 1´s, until the series degraded down to 9.12. MAL Deleted the accounts (supposedly) and nowadays SNK holds a lower score. So yeah, for some reason FMAB is kinda sacred here and fans will always get in arms to put everything down (the same happened with Your Voice and Gintama).

Oh, I thought you meant Fullmetal Alchemist was popular and many people gave it 1. Well, if they deleted all fake accounts, you can't see what happened back at the day anyway... But both anime stats (Ummm... SNK it's Shinjeki no Kyojon\attack on titan, right?) look normal (By normal I mean not 25% giving one while more than 60 percent give 8+).

And what can I say? Shingeki No Kyojin Season 3 part 2 in 5th place. Who knows, maybe people were disappointed at the end of the first season.


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ck.. ck.. ck..

First let's see this screen capture


It's the いいね (likes) tab of twitter page of Chihayafuru's Author.
You can see her username on the above is the same as this https://twitter.com/yuyu2000_0908?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
And below いいね tab there's a list of tweet she likes.
There we see a post by Agnes Chow Ting, and at the right of her username there's a date when she posted that tweet.
It's written 1日 which means it's 1 day ago.
On my previous post there's another screen capture (with white background) that let us know when is the day Agnes Chow posted that, which is on Nov 13, 2019.
So what is 1 day after Nov 13, 2019? of course it's Nov 14, 2019, and now we know when the screen's captured.
Understand?


Alright so it's 14 November. That still couple of days short from the 11 November date when the down vote started.


Again with the misleading narration.

Every anime that's already finished or is just started airing will always have downvoters, but in most case they're not quite harmful because mostly the accounts were created by different people and rate series based on their respective opinions.

But the problem now in Chihayafuru S3 case is there are massive multiple fake accounts created for the sole purpose of lowering the score of Chihayafuru S3 to 6 or even below by spamming it with 1/10.

And you can't bring any sound proof that it's started on Nov 11, 2019.
Even on the thread you brought before, the people there said that the score raised 0.03 and then 0.04 surpassing Vinland by Nov 13, 2019. Meaning the massive spamming didn't even start yet on Nov 13, 2019.

Gorochu said:
Unless the moderator/admin themselves openly said the IP is from China(you can trace country location through IP right?),then I agree the Chinese are to be blame.


Yeah, and you just said on different thread that even if it's revealed the bots doing this are from china, they're not chinese people, but Trump supporters who used chinese IP address.

Because mainland chinese are good people like angels, so it's no way they could do such an evil thing like that.

Gorochu said:
And for your info,Inoue Takehiko also support Hong Kong but his Slam Dunk didn't get down vote.


Slam Dunk already finished 23 years ago, barely anyone cares about it anymore, even the culprit behind this.
But Chihayafuru S3 is just started and still airing.
And even the manga got hit.

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nothing will happen development of this website is super slow and this is happening only with 1-3 series per season out of 40+ anime per season anyway so the developers of MAL are not that concerned
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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


Alright so it's 14 November. That still couple of days short from the 11 November date when the down vote started.


Again with the misleading narration.

Every anime that's already finished or is just started airing will always have downvoters, but in most case they're not quite harmful because mostly the accounts were created by different people and rate series based on their respective opinions.

But the problem now in Chihayafuru S3 case is there are massive multiple fake accounts created for the sole purpose of lowering the score of Chihayafuru S3 to 6 or even below by spamming it with 1/10.

And you can't bring any sound proof that it's started on Nov 11, 2019.
Even on the thread you brought before, the people there said that the score raised 0.03 and then 0.04 surpassing Vinland by Nov 13, 2019. Meaning the massive spamming didn't even start yet on Nov 13, 2019.

Gorochu said:
Unless the moderator/admin themselves openly said the IP is from China(you can trace country location through IP right?),then I agree the Chinese are to be blame.


Yeah, and you just said on different thread that even if it's revealed the bots doing this are from china, they're not chinese people, but Trump supporters who used chinese IP address.

Because mainland chinese are good people like angels, so it's no way they could do such an evil thing like that.

Gorochu said:
And for your info,Inoue Takehiko also support Hong Kong but his Slam Dunk didn't get down vote.


Slam Dunk already finished 23 years ago, barely anyone cares about it anymore, even the culprit behind this.
But Chihayafuru S3 is just started and still airing.
And even the manga got hit.



No, the massive down vote started on 11 November 2019 when Chihaya tied with VS. However the amount of downvoted has not accumulate enough to bring down the score. That is why it still capable to bring up the score. Its only when the troll realise his attempt fail, only then he become more aggressive.

In other thread, I was saying I have seen bad people in the Internet from many group. That's my point. If the mod says the troll is from China, then I will take back what I said but it need to be from old bots like during 13 November bots.

@Freiya3
Can you show me English link on what really happen to Chihayafuru in China? Yes, I know the author support Hong Kong independence but to what extent the Chinese react to this? I didn't see any credible English source that report Chihayafuru got ban.

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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:


Again with the misleading narration.

Every anime that's already finished or is just started airing will always have downvoters, but in most case they're not quite harmful because mostly the accounts were created by different people and rate series based on their respective opinions.

But the problem now in Chihayafuru S3 case is there are massive multiple fake accounts created for the sole purpose of lowering the score of Chihayafuru S3 to 6 or even below by spamming it with 1/10.

And you can't bring any sound proof that it's started on Nov 11, 2019.
Even on the thread you brought before, the people there said that the score raised 0.03 and then 0.04 surpassing Vinland by Nov 13, 2019. Meaning the massive spamming didn't even start yet on Nov 13, 2019.



Yeah, and you just said on different thread that even if it's revealed the bots doing this are from china, they're not chinese people, but Trump supporters who used chinese IP address.

Because mainland chinese are good people like angels, so it's no way they could do such an evil thing like that.



Slam Dunk already finished 23 years ago, barely anyone cares about it anymore, even the culprit behind this.
But Chihayafuru S3 is just started and still airing.
And even the manga got hit.



No, the massive down vote started on 11 November 2019 when Chihaya tied with VS. However the amount of downvoted has not accumulate enough to bring down the score. That is why it still capable to bring up the score. Its only when the troll realise his attempt fail, only then he become more aggressive.


Is that what you were taught at the 50 cent army academy?
Keep saying the same argument even though the evidence has turned against it.
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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


No, the massive down vote started on 11 November 2019 when Chihaya tied with VS. However the amount of downvoted has not accumulate enough to bring down the score. That is why it still capable to bring up the score. Its only when the troll realise his attempt fail, only then he become more aggressive.


Is that what you were taught at the 50 cent army academy?
Keep saying the same argument even though the evidence has turned against it.


You want new argument? Well guess what,Chihayafuru is not ban in China.
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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:


Is that what you were taught at the 50 cent army academy?
Keep saying the same argument even though the evidence has turned against it.


You want new argument? Well guess what,Chihayafuru is not ban in China.


yeah... yeah... the words of a swindler who claims not to live in China are more believable than the words of Chinese netizens themselves.
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/158551842/
From weibo
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HENnG6uAptwJ:https://www.weibo.com/p/1008082434146260423216dc6b7b66d21f065e+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

from Taiwanese forums
https://pttcomic.com/c_chat/M.1574161410.A.86C.html
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=5417759
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this shit is hilarious, tho I guess it is misleading to casuals.
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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


You want new argument? Well guess what,Chihayafuru is not ban in China.


yeah... yeah... the words of a swindler who claims not to live in China are more believable than the words of Chinese netizens themselves.
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/158551842/
From weibo
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HENnG6uAptwJ:https://www.weibo.com/p/1008082434146260423216dc6b7b66d21f065e+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

from Taiwanese forums
https://pttcomic.com/c_chat/M.1574161410.A.86C.html
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=5417759


Sorry,forum is not credible source. And for the last time,I can't read Chinese. If you accuse me of being 50 cent army(boring overuse meme by the way,try harder),I can accuse you as pro Taiwan independence trying to use this opportunity to bash Chinese seeing so many of your source is from Taiwan who are very anti Chinese .Although we are not in Current Events,Myanimelist always encourage us to post news from reputable English source.

+7. Controversial/sensitive topics liable to incite rule violations (trolling, flaming, abuse) must:
a. be sourced from a reputable English-language media outlet (e.g. New York Times, Wall Street Journal, BBC, Scientific American)

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516111#msg55035311
This is an English forum,credible English news source please.

And I don't have problem watching Chihayafuru 3 episode 8 in Youku,Chinese streaming sites. Go click the link yourself.
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ1MTYyOTkwOA==.html?spm=a2h0k.11417342.soresults.dtitle
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Gorochu said:
Freiya3 said:


yeah... yeah... the words of a swindler who claims not to live in China are more believable than the words of Chinese netizens themselves.
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/158551842/
From weibo
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HENnG6uAptwJ:https://www.weibo.com/p/1008082434146260423216dc6b7b66d21f065e+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

from Taiwanese forums
https://pttcomic.com/c_chat/M.1574161410.A.86C.html
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=5417759


Sorry,forum is not credible source. And for the last time,I can't read Chinese. If you accuse me of being 50 cent army(boring overuse meme by the way,try harder),I can accuse you as pro Taiwan independence trying to use this opportunity to bash Chinese seeing so many of your source is from Taiwan.Although we are not in Current Events,Myanimelist always encourage us to post news from reputable English source.

+7. Controversial/sensitive topics liable to incite rule violations (trolling, flaming, abuse) must:
a. be sourced from a reputable English-language media outlet (e.g. New York Times, Wall Street Journal, BBC, Scientific American)

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516111#msg55035311
This is an English forum,credible English news source please.


Pfft... weibo and douban are taiwanese forums? lol.. their writing system uses simplified chinese while hong konger and taiwanese use traditional chinese. And you say weibo and douban users are taiwanese lol.

Gorochu said:
And I don't have problem watching Chihayafuru 3 episode 8 in Youku,Chinese streaming sites. Go click the link yourself.
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ1MTYyOTkwOA==.html?spm=a2h0k.11417342.soresults.dtitle


Who said it's being banned at Youku? lol
Try checking the manga at tencent and bilibili.
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Freiya3 said:
Gorochu said:


Sorry,forum is not credible source. And for the last time,I can't read Chinese. If you accuse me of being 50 cent army(boring overuse meme by the way,try harder),I can accuse you as pro Taiwan independence trying to use this opportunity to bash Chinese seeing so many of your source is from Taiwan.Although we are not in Current Events,Myanimelist always encourage us to post news from reputable English source.


https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516111#msg55035311
This is an English forum,credible English news source please.


Pfft... weibo and douban are taiwanese forums? lol.. their writing system uses simplified chinese while hong konger and taiwanese use traditional chinese. And you say weibo and douban users are taiwanese lol.

Gorochu said:
And I don't have problem watching Chihayafuru 3 episode 8 in Youku,Chinese streaming sites. Go click the link yourself.
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ1MTYyOTkwOA==.html?spm=a2h0k.11417342.soresults.dtitle


Who said it's being banned at Youku? lol
Try checking the manga at tencent and bilibili.


Didn't Taiwanese use Weibo and douban too since they are part of China(Sorry,not being pro China here but as for now,most country does not recognize Taiwan as country though that might change in future)? And what is this simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese? For the last time,we are in English forum. So they ban the manga but not the anime. Why didn't they ban both if they really salty about the Twitter. Doesn't make sense. As for the Chihayafuru manga getting down vote,it simple really. Troll got so salty that Chihayafuru beat his Vinland Saga that he decided to down vote the manga too. Chihayafuru is not on bilibili? Big deal. Other manga like Beelzebub,History Strongest Disciple Kenichi and The World God only Knows are not available on Bilibili despite the fact non of those authors tweet anything that upset China. China would have ban both the manga and anime if they are salty about the tweet.
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