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Nov 22, 4:45 AM
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What's with all the Mitsue hate..

She's the only recurring character that gives counterbalance when the boys get extra perky (which is like all the time lately).

Two reasons.

One, it's her attitude that sets most people off. Mitsue just seems to be there because she's got nothing better to do and she strikes me as one of those people who just lives for the moment. Like she was expecting Maki and Touma to lose badly so she could sit there and laugh about it but came away disappointed. Maybe her backstory might give us some closure on her character but it's a bit too late for that now that we're in the second half of this series.

The second reason is that in terms of plot she's practically served no purpose to the story. She's just there because the writer put her there. It's the second half of the series and we've been given no reason to care about her. Again, maybe her backstory might change but at this point I'm not sure if it's going to do much for her character.


I'm pretty sure she fancies Maki and that's why she sticks around the club (much like the manager who has a crush on Shinjou). She only said she hoped to see the team lose because that's how she is - a tsundere. Also right after she said it, she made a subdued celebratory gesture, so she definitely was happy to see 'her' boys hold their own.

On another note, I kinda wish they changed their little dance. (Though I admire their courage to pull it off in public. :))
Their off-court friendliness with their rival (and one that had seemed like an utter jerk!) reminds me of Haikyuu. I'm digging this show.^^
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Nov 22, 5:23 AM

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What's up with all the boys gawking at Itsuki while he was undressing..



Like, don't they understand that's one of the reasons he didn't want to undress there..
 
Nov 22, 5:30 AM

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OK, Oji not being a TOTAL dick at the barbecue got me by surprise. From a rival to a friend un 1 episode was quite fast but I don't mind.

Also that "little chocolates" story.... Just how fucked up is his childhood.
 
Nov 22, 6:12 AM

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Solid episode! No Op so y'know this was some episode. Having the Op play during the tight moments was a real treat though and the usage of soundtrack for the episode as a whole was exemplary to boot!

Maki and Toma fought really hard but at the end of the day, it was always going to be the opposition due to the stark difference in experience and ability. God, why did it have to end like that though? Crushing...

But good thing the teacher came up with a bright idea against that. Props to him, even going as far as to burrowing stuff from that female coach and etc.

I had a feeling that Prince isn't actually that bad by nature and especially more so when he stopped "controlling" his partner but I certainly didn't think he'd open up to them like that. Maki's cooking sure looks darn delicious though. Also, lol @ dat "little chocolates" story. Who would've thought this mystery would have such an odd twist xD.

I'm a little baffled with the hate surrounding Mitsue here, she's just playing the bad role here to mingle with the group (or maybe snare Maki, who knows) I reckon.

Anyways, looks like something about to go down next episode! Can't wait to see what that'll be. Condolences to Itsuki btw, that scar on the back looks absolutely hideous fudge.
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Nov 22, 6:22 AM

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I really enjoyed this game, too bad Maki and Toma didn't win.

It was a nice surprise to see that Oji isn't actually a jerk and how he gets along with others at the BBQ party.
 
Nov 22, 6:31 AM

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DirectorK said:
this_shit_again said:
What's with all the Mitsue hate..

She's the only recurring character that gives counterbalance when the boys get extra perky (which is like all the time lately).

Two reasons.

One, it's her attitude that sets most people off. Mitsue just seems to be there because she's got nothing better to do and she strikes me as one of those people who just lives for the moment. Like she was expecting Maki and Touma to lose badly so she could sit there and laugh about it but came away disappointed. Maybe her backstory might give us some closure on her character but it's a bit too late for that now that we're in the second half of this series.

The second reason is that in terms of plot she's practically served no purpose to the story. She's just there because the writer put her there. It's the second half of the series and we've been given no reason to care about her. Again, maybe her backstory might change but at this point I'm not sure if it's going to do much for her character.


She probably likes Maki and she seemed genuinely happy when they were winning, though Maki seems to be more aware of Touma's orbiter than her.

But yes, her character is not connected to anything, she just keeps being a negative nancy and seems to exist so Yuta can explain the rules of soft tennis to the audience. You could remove her without losing too much.
 
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Why do their parents have to be such party poopers in this anime
How I wish ahving barbeque on a Sunday as gruelling intense training. LOL.
 
Nov 22, 10:07 AM

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In my opinion Mitsue is a really annoying und unbearably negative character. I'd even see a bit of Tomoko from Watamote in her... antisocial, always negative and just a bother.

Else this episode was fantastic. The tennis match was extremely hype and how it ended wasn't clear at all. I rooted so much for Maki to jump, get hurt but still save the round. Guess they will get a rematch another day.

Also Maki and Toma stand way too close to another in that one scene for it to not be a fujoshi dogwhistle. I'd take every possible ship over anything with Mitsue though.
 
Nov 22, 2:27 PM
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DirectorK said:
this_shit_again said:
What's with all the Mitsue hate..

She's the only recurring character that gives counterbalance when the boys get extra perky (which is like all the time lately).

Two reasons.

One, it's her attitude that sets most people off. Mitsue just seems to be there because she's got nothing better to do and she strikes me as one of those people who just lives for the moment. Like she was expecting Maki and Touma to lose badly so she could sit there and laugh about it but came away disappointed. Maybe her backstory might give us some closure on her character but it's a bit too late for that now that we're in the second half of this series.

The second reason is that in terms of plot she's practically served no purpose to the story. She's just there because the writer put her there. It's the second half of the series and we've been given no reason to care about her. Again, maybe her backstory might change but at this point I'm not sure if it's going to do much for her character.
She may have a shitty attitude, but I don't think it's her real nature. I think she's twisted like Toma. If you saw how the other guy noticed she had a much greater appetite among the guys... it looks like she's an outcast in her classroom. Had a really difficult past. And she hangs out with the tennis club because she's on friendly terms with Maki. There is no other place for her at school. If you were lonely like her... and the tennis club had no problem with you being there... well you'd stick with them.

A lot of the stuff she says sounds like she was hopeful in the past, but things never turned out well. So she takes on a pessimistic view now. (But in reality, she wants good to happen too.)
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Nov 22, 4:36 PM

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Since there's some confusion about the Mitsue character, here's a short 6 slide presentation on her general disposition:


This concludes the presentation.

I'd be more worried about the mary sue in the room club..
 
Nov 22, 5:21 PM

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Oji is so cocky!! He's the ace?? It takes two to play doubles! Obviously lol

I really really love the OP song, I listen to it and never skip even the ED!

I love the match! I love how camera follow the ball! Looks good ❤

Mitsue is so tsundere lol she always say she don't want to support them but she's always there with them XD Atleast Oji redeem himself, he's funny. I love this episode ❤
 
Nov 22, 7:52 PM

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I love this show so much. Oji turning out to not be a huge dick and enjoying the BBQ with them was a nice touch and was really sweet to watch.

Poor Toma though...he's obviously dealing with some shit. :( I hope things get better for him by the end..
 
Nov 22, 9:45 PM

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I really loved the match and i can't wait to see our lil team grow and get better.
 
Nov 22, 10:00 PM
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That match was that intense. Barbecue scene was quite nice and that cockroach story was really something. A bit worried about the post-credits scene though.
 
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Hey, this was pretty good. I wish the show didn't look so weird in the second half, there were so many uncanny moments.

We got a major hint of Mitsue's issues, but we are 7 episodes in, at this point that ship is sailed. I do not look forward the writer dumping her backstory all over the plot out of nowhere in the next episode or so.


Did this ship come to life just now? Does this mean that their previous real ship tease was only in the second episode? It feels like she’s only here so that the guys don't accidentally think that this is fujoshi bait and don't ignore the series.

@this_shit_again You want to say that she is a local version of Gou and exists only for female otaku fantasies?
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RobertBobert said:
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Hey, this was pretty good. I wish the show didn't look so weird in the second half, there were so many uncanny moments.

We got a major hint of Mitsue's issues, but we are 7 episodes in, at this point that ship is sailed. I do not look forward the writer dumping her backstory all over the plot out of nowhere in the next episode or so.


Did this ship come to life just now?

No I don't mean "ship" has in "shipping", it's an expression lol.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/that_ship_has_sailed

I meant her character isn't well integrated in the story and just feels like an extra at this point, it's too late to have her become a major player.

Gou was legitimately funny and actually had a purpose in the series. (Also she was related to one of the main characters)
 
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RobertBobert said:

@this_shit_again You want to say that she is a local version of Gou and exists only for female otaku fantasies?


I meant that the show makes it quite clear that her outward pessimism is not indicative of her actual feelings. As others have said, she's a tsundere so expect her to open up more in the upcoming episodes. Maki is the mary sue.

I didn't watch Free!
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this_shit_again said:
RobertBobert said:

@this_shit_again You want to say that she is a local version of Gou and exists only for female otaku fantasies?


I meant that the show makes it quite clear that her outward pessimism is not indicative of her actual feelings. As others have said, she's a tsundere so expect her to open up more in the upcoming episodes. Maki is the mary sue.

I didn't watch Free!


Well, I still do not understand what kind of audience this show is counting on, but at the moment, yes, to me personally Maki seems too superficial to MC for a sports anime. I have not reached this episode myself, but still.

@Jin_uzuki Well, as I said above, I have not watched these episodes yet. But to me personally, she seems to be someone in between the local Daria and the female otaku MC.
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i don't inderstand Toma issues really??

i think the one who complined it Maki's Father (i really hate him)
 
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Ouji was obviously a nice guy and an actual ouji, his family must be loaded. They have their own personal cook and nutritionist. It isn't that uncommon to have maids in a lot of Asian, especially Southeast Asian countries like Thaialand, Singapore, Philippines, Hong Kong, etc. but a nutritionist is something else. Usually characters like him aren't malicious at all, it's the ones who act nice in the beginning who end up being the most twisted.

Anyways, I wonder what kind of dog he has? I remember watching a Youtube video about the most expensive dogs but I can't seem to put a finger on what breed Kamuy is.
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i don't inderstand Toma issues really??


I think he has or had some anger issues or some kind of history of violence, or at least is implied as that

About Mitsue

So, for some time i tought that she would have some kind of romantic relatonship with Maki, but we are in EP 7 and they barely even interact, they had some interaction in the two first episodes, but Maki don't even look her way.

I really don't understand her role so far, like many people said here, she is just there, she seems to be a loner, and that's why she hangs with the tennis club, she knows no better, and well, it's implied that she has fellings for Maki.
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Nov 24, 2:36 AM

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Another wonderful episode!
they still lost but the fight was super close it was worth it!
nice barbecue party!
5/5.
 
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Very nice episode. Ouji quickly becoming friends with the boys was a surprise but a welcome one. I really couldn't bring myself to dislike him, even more so when he actually realized the problem with his doubles play and even communicated with his partner. I was sure he'd get along with Shingo too.

That being said, inb4 the parent was Maki's dad because he was pissed that he didn't catch maki at home to extort money

 
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This was a nice episode and I've never watched such an intense tennis match before. That Arashi guy is actually pretty cute lol he seem to have some background too that might be revealed later on, just a guess though. Arashi when he was walking his dog and slipped, that face he mad as he slipped was priceless xD
 
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Toma just sitting there alone in the back while Maki is playing with Oji's dog is like the saddest thing..

 
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Maki sure knows how to exploit others weakness lol. Also the barbecue part was fun and damn the part after the ed, looks like more troubles coming.
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Of course being champions, the head ace honcho of Misaki Academy, Oji Arashi doesn't care about playing doubles, he is his own strength. But in doubles, it takes two to play, and a single person cannot tackle on his own.

Every POINT, Toma and Maki kept leveling with the ace and his lackey player in breakneck speed and strategy skill. But Oji overcomes his pride and ego, by LEARNING TO LET GO, and asked his partner to cover for his open areas. In the end, even the best pair lost, it was all cheers and applause. What an intense match coupled with perfection of camerawork.

And a BBQ to ease the time for the soft tennis club. Of course, Mitsue would join at any chance she gets. Her shtick as far as I can see is being attached to Yuta (like their 4-man clique). Definitely glad to see Oji interact with the club with no hard feelings.

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Toma just sitting there alone in the back while Maki is playing with Oji's dog is like the saddest thing..



And to the surprise of no one, Oji strikes off as being rich. But to the surprise of everyone, Toma strikes off as being an introvert? Being an advocate for everyone but not fitting into any clique, that's not just sad but scary too...

Looks like there's more trouble brewing in the post-credits...have to await next episode!
 
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The girl is seriously getting on my nerves. She has absolutely no function in the story but her rude behaviour ruins every secene she's in...
 
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Toma should be cautious. Otherwise the "rich boy" will buy Maki soon. :'D

Repeatedly and loudly having a foodgasm from Maki's cooking and telling him how incredible he is while his partner sits 4 seats over. So rude..

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Toma better get tf in there and socialize before I start to ship Maki with someone else
 
Nov 25, 10:33 PM

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Casual Mitsue looked so cute...

Great last match.
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They didn't add internal monologue during Toma's close-up, but you could just feel it..

 
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Toma just sitting there alone in the back while Maki is playing with Oji's dog is like the saddest thing..


It can be seen as sad... but, honestly, it's a reality and it's a struggle that a lot of people who are more introverted face. I actually think the barbecue scene is one of my favorite scenes so far since it illustrates the bond they're all forming with one another, but it also manages to throw in that snippet of reality. I feel like this is a trend in this anime and it has been pretty good at presenting light-hearted scenes and then bringing light to issues you may have missed and wouldn't think twice about really. Like when Toma is sitting by himself and they highlight some realistic thoughts and feelings that go through people who have difficulty fitting in or socializing. Even things like abuse, adoption, bullying, and topics like someone's wealth being observed and mentioned in a anime about middle schoolers...is amazing. I love it. It doesn't just talk about these issues but brings room for discussion which I think is very bold to do in japanese media, and in any type of media really.

There is a beautiful story that is being told and I am here for it.

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The girl is seriously getting on my nerves. She has absolutely no function in the story but her rude behaviour ruins every secene she's in...


Mitsue annoyed me at first too...and I'd be lying if I said she does not still, but I do think she has a function in the story.

Her function in the story is that she is an outcast, trying to form relationships with people who are also considered outcasts by the school and even society. Her attitude...it is interesting because I get the impression she wants to be friends, be a part of a community or group but she is reluctant and doesn't even know how. She has a rather pessimistic attitude, which makes you believe she is 'mature', yet she is very child-like. I think that Mitsue is trying to hide her weaknesses or insecurities and since she is an outcast, she is so honest and blunt towards people simply because she hasn't really had opportunities to develop her social skills. It is also part of her personality, I suppose but my point is it does make sense that she doesn't know how to keep thoughts to herself or be 'friendly' since...well, people have labeled her as 'gross, an otaku' and I am assuming no one really has been friendly to her so she does not know how to act.
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You could sense that Yuuta was trying to say something..



But the powers that be wouldn't let him..
 
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I think Toma's mother is not his real mother, that and other things we still don't know are a source of him being "twisted".
As for Mitsue, give her some more time, she's not easy to be around, but there will come a time when she starts giving back. I like her character, she's a good counterweight and I think the show would lose out without her.
 
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