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Nov 20, 2019 6:42 AM

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Alright, so it started going up again, it was 8.09 a few hours ago, with 8.9% 1/1

And it's down to 8.04, with 10.1%.

Seems like whoever the fuck is doing this sh*t has absolutely no life, and insist on keeping this anime below 8.

Without these votes, it would definitely be around 8.75 now.
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Nov 20, 2019 6:52 AM
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I've just watched season 1, and also saw very high ratings from this season a couple of weeks ago. Really sad about the fact that the score went down for no real reason. Hope they fix this
 
Nov 20, 2019 7:57 AM

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Alright, so it started going up again, it was 8.09 a few hours ago, with 8.9% 1/1

And it's down to 8.04, with 10.1%.

Seems like whoever the fuck is doing this sh*t has absolutely no life, and insist on keeping this anime below 8.

Without these votes, it would definitely be around 8.75 now.



I actually calculated it yesterday excluding all the bot accounts listed (both downvoting and upvoting) and average was 8,72. With MAL formula final result should be around 8,65-8,70.
 
Nov 20, 2019 7:59 AM
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Oh look the numbers started changing again. Almost 100 new alts since a few days ago

Also looking at the most recent score updates of the manga...
https://myanimelist.net/manga/13245/Chihayafuru/stats?m=all#members
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Nov 20, 2019 8:27 AM

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Talk about a hyperbole thread.
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Nov 20, 2019 8:29 AM

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Oh look the numbers started changing again. Almost 100 new alts since a few days ago

Also looking at the most recent score updates of the manga...
https://myanimelist.net/manga/13245/Chihayafuru/stats?m=all#members

Oh the manga too?...

Alright, can't tell how much this annoys me, that someone would do something like this. Most likely the most pathetic thing I've seen in MAL since I've been using it
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Nov 20, 2019 8:33 AM

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I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well.


2 or 3 stupid trolls don't represent the Vinland Saga fandom,you're generalizing too much in my opinion.
 
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I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well.

Also, if MAL actually does something about troll accounts then I don't think many top anime with big fandoms will have same score they have now.


Sorry I fail to see how is this gonna benefit Vinland Saga in any way, in fact, your way of thinking is exactly where the trolls would like to lead to, I can pretend to be any anime fan and do this and the first easy suspicion would come to the one below Chihayafuru S3.

Chihayafuru S3 is already niche, it cannot withstand fan flame wars like other big titles. At the moment, any conspiracy theory will only make things worse. Not to mention, if you look closely to the alleged spammed accounts, they are repeated offenders who caused havoc months ago on the Titan S3 page (gowd, another season 3 got the short end)
 
Nov 20, 2019 9:36 AM

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Thinking again about this whole situation, the downvoters who are throwing a tantrum because they can't take it to see their favorite anime being democratically crushed by Chihaya, well they can't have a real impact on the S3.
To be fair, people are gonna trust reviews and critics. Like i find myself going to Nick Creamer's blog looking for guidance, more often than not. And Nick is loving Chihaya =3
Just add your opinion about the series in, good or bad, and be serious about it. If I'm interested in an anime, I'm gonna look for the bad reviews first. Thing is, a retarded troll won't have any ground to emit a serious opinion about the show, he did not watch it and even so he would not be able to point out any technical faults about the show, maybe the mood or subject ain't his shit, well too bad, that's all very subjective and can't be a solid reason not to recommend watching it. There are actually a few negative reviews on S1, and half of them are about the card game that they find weird. Also when I say "a few"... the reviews are overwhelmingly 9's and 10's.
 
Nov 20, 2019 10:05 AM

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The score is now below 8.00 again lmao the guy that did this saw that the score was going up again and immediately started downvoting again what a fucking retard.
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Nov 20, 2019 10:12 AM

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I remember reading a thread earlier that the mods stopped tackling issues like this, because it was so too difficult. Unfortunately, there are some weird people with a lot of time on their hands to care enough about MAL score do something like this lol.
 
Nov 20, 2019 10:37 AM
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I remember reading a thread earlier that the mods stopped tackling issues like this, because it was so too difficult. Unfortunately, there are some weird people with a lot of time on their hands to care enough about MAL score do something like this lol.

Not difficult, they're just incompetent. It's not hard to identify fake accounts and ban them. But no, they'll lose their fake users.
 
Nov 20, 2019 11:07 AM

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Manga score keeps dropping.. its at 8,45 as of right now
 
Nov 20, 2019 11:10 AM

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It keeps dropping because bots that downvote anime also put manga on their list for some reason.
 
Nov 20, 2019 12:02 PM

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Talk about a hyperbole thread.


How is anyone here being hyperbolic? Have you actually looked at the stats? The dude trolling really IS that much of a nolife.
 
Nov 20, 2019 12:10 PM

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damn, 16 trolls scoring 1 on the first stats page. talk about persistence
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Nov 20, 2019 12:39 PM
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I am too old for this kind of crap and I shouldn't care, but this kind of annoys me. I love this show and it's messed up that some sad individuals will go so far. One thing i would like to caution everyone is that, this are very few losers and not the fandom of VS. Feeding these losers encourages them more and it really doesn't matter what they. Chihayafuru was never going to be a household name, so there will be no negative impact on it popularity and on the contrary more people keep hearing about this show because of all this crap.
 
Nov 20, 2019 12:42 PM

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I am too old for this kind of crap and I shouldn't care, but this kind of annoys me. I love this show and it's messed up that some sad individuals will go so far. One thing i would like to caution everyone is that, this are very few losers and not the fandom of VS. Feeding these losers encourages them more and it really doesn't matter what they. Chihayafuru was never going to be a household name, so there will be no negative impact on it popularity and on the contrary more people keep hearing about this show because of all this crap.


Agreed, if nothing else its at least garnering attention to a criminaly underwatched series. But the attack on the manga is really pissing me off
 
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I am too old for this kind of crap and I shouldn't care, but this kind of annoys me. I love this show and it's messed up that some sad individuals will go so far. One thing i would like to caution everyone is that, this are very few losers and not the fandom of VS. Feeding these losers encourages them more and it really doesn't matter what they. Chihayafuru was never going to be a household name, so there will be no negative impact on it popularity and on the contrary more people keep hearing about this show because of all this crap.


Agreed, if nothing else its at least garnering attention to a criminaly underwatched series. But the attack on the manga is really pissing me off


Trust me its pissing me off as well.. I hope the mods get rid of those downvote trolls asap..
 
Nov 20, 2019 1:09 PM

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This is getting ridiculous, 7.88.
 
Nov 20, 2019 1:10 PM

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It's both sad and funny to think that someone would go to such lengths to mess with MAL's scores, just because they feel threatened by an anime. That's not surprising though, the whole concept of rating anime is not healthy, it enables a competition between shows and it changes our mentality.

I think the scores should be secondary and not displayed like that. I'd love for them to be used for automatic recommendations, a "Members who liked this anime liked these ones too" kind of thing. Like, you take every member who rated an anime 7 or + and you make a top 10 based on their lists (shows that have been watched by less than 10 or 20% of these members wouldn't appear on the top). Well I'm not sure how it'd work exactly but you get the idea.
 
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Talk about a hyperbole thread.


How is anyone here being hyperbolic? Have you actually looked at the stats? The dude trolling really IS that much of a nolife.


For starters, the very title of this thread.

And oh my God, 531 ones, how am I supposed to proceed with my life? Ah right, as usual.
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The score of this anime is dropping faster than my Self-esteem.
 
Nov 20, 2019 1:35 PM
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This is exactly why MAL should remove the same amount of votes from the top and bottom, both extremes, to normalise the average. By removing the top 531 10/10's and the bottom 531 1/10's the score normalises around the 8.6 average mark.

Honestly MAL should do this for all the shows in the top 100 list because there's always people voting things 1/10 to "address the balance" because they think a show is rated higher than it actually is.
 
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FMmatron said:
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How is anyone here being hyperbolic? Have you actually looked at the stats? The dude trolling really IS that much of a nolife.


For starters, the very title of this thread.

And oh my God, 531 ones, how am I supposed to proceed with my life? Ah right, as usual.


The title is true though...

Yeah, 531 ones that are basically all from a single person trolling with bot accounts. If you don't see the problem with that, then I don't know what to tell you man.
 
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Oh my f*cking God!! 😱😱 531 scores of 1/10.. The mods needs to do something. This is becoming disgusting. They even have stated to attack the manga too.

 
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For starters, the very title of this thread.

And oh my God, 531 ones, how am I supposed to proceed with my life? Ah right, as usual.


The title is true though...

Yeah, 531 ones that are basically all from a single person trolling with bot accounts. If you don't see the problem with that, then I don't know what to tell you man.


Mal scores have a certain relevance and if you know how to interpret them then they're are also pretty reliable. And now you want to tell me that due to this case at hand and one guy, the whole system got fucked? Nani?

And ok, it's a problem....not having 4G is also one.
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Wow !! God job mods for not doing shit
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Nov 20, 2019 2:36 PM

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FMmatron said:
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The title is true though...

Yeah, 531 ones that are basically all from a single person trolling with bot accounts. If you don't see the problem with that, then I don't know what to tell you man.


Mal scores have a certain relevance and if you know how to interpret them then they're are also pretty reliable. And now you want to tell me that due to this case at hand and one guy, the whole system got fucked? Nani?

And ok, it's a problem....not having 4G is also one.


MAL scores lose their relevance when one nolife can affect the score this drastically. Why bother even showing a mean score if it's not accurate and can be altered this much by one troll? That's the point here. Also, this isn't the only case of something like this happening, and I can tell you right now it won't be the last.

MAL is a site where you're supposed to go if you want information on a show. The mean score being fucked would obviously affect this. Like, people would look at S3 and automatically think it's worse than the others because it's rated so much lower. And most of them wouldn't look at the stats to see if they're botted because we shouldn't HAVE to do that. If you don't personally give a shit then fine, you do you. But when even the mods are acknowledging that they think think it's an issue and would like to fix it, then I'd say it's a problem.
 
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lol the reviews are bs, made by fans in an attempt to bring chihayafuru back up. now don't get me wrong i haven't watche chiya but i believe it's an amazing show. but the reviews are obviuoly a desperate attempt at redemption, now for the trolls. No they will not be removed and mal is working on a solution that probably won't come for a good few years. And the score being dropped massively by bots accounts is mostly due to the minuscule community of chihaya 3, so a person took advantage of it and made enough accounts to troll, thats all.


Ahaha you're not making any sense, what you're saying is the death of fun. So people should only review shows they're unhappy about? What should one do when he's loving a show, forbid himself/herself to talk about it? You believe it's a good show and yet people would be lying about it in their reviews? Not making any sense.
Also you're not even watching it, what the heck are you doing in this thread lmao, are you one of those VS fanbois who's coming on the field to relish their mayhem? You're so obvious.

uhhhhhh, you made an account just to reply to my post, aight. and i was just pointing out that all the reviews are obviously biased and one shouldn't judge a show based from those reviews just because you want the show to do really well. But quote me with your actual account so i can defend my point instead of you being lik HAh So ObbVious People Like YoU aRE The ScUm of THe Earth, like bruh how sensitive do you think I am to get offended over the internet. If you want to argue then quote me so i can reply and you can see it. Also i am by no means supporting this degenerate who now made 500 bot accounts to downvote this show
 
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when you make a thread like this and gets a ton of people supporting you which brings so much attention to the bot problem and motivates this degenrate to make 200 more accounts
 
Nov 20, 2019 3:41 PM
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You know I wonder if the guy is doing this in order to bring as much attention as possible to the issue in order to force the devs hand at implementing a countermeasure

Just a conspiracy theory lol

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Mal scores have a certain relevance and if you know how to interpret them then they're are also pretty reliable. And now you want to tell me that due to this case at hand and one guy, the whole system got fucked? Nani?

And ok, it's a problem....not having 4G is also one.


MAL scores lose their relevance when one nolife can affect the score this drastically. Why bother even showing a mean score if it's not accurate and can be altered this much by one troll? That's the point here. Also, this isn't the only case of something like this happening, and I can tell you right now it won't be the last.

MAL is a site where you're supposed to go if you want information on a show. The mean score being fucked would obviously affect this. Like, people would look at S3 and automatically think it's worse than the others because it's rated so much lower. And most of them wouldn't look at the stats to see if they're botted because we shouldn't HAVE to do that. If you don't personally give a shit then fine, you do you. But when even the mods are acknowledging that they think think it's an issue and would like to fix it, then I'd say it's a problem.


It won't spread like a diesease and even if, it's just a number on this site. Listen, people who are genuinely interested would watch it anyway. Getting worked up over such trivial stuff is ridiculous.
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FMmatron said:
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MAL scores lose their relevance when one nolife can affect the score this drastically. Why bother even showing a mean score if it's not accurate and can be altered this much by one troll? That's the point here. Also, this isn't the only case of something like this happening, and I can tell you right now it won't be the last.

MAL is a site where you're supposed to go if you want information on a show. The mean score being fucked would obviously affect this. Like, people would look at S3 and automatically think it's worse than the others because it's rated so much lower. And most of them wouldn't look at the stats to see if they're botted because we shouldn't HAVE to do that. If you don't personally give a shit then fine, you do you. But when even the mods are acknowledging that they think think it's an issue and would like to fix it, then I'd say it's a problem.


It won't spread like a diesease and even if, it's just a number on this site. Listen, people who are genuinely interested would watch it anyway. Getting worked up over such trivial stuff is ridiculous.


I don't really care about mean scores that much either, but as I've already said, this is clearly still an issue and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. It goes against the very purpose of the site. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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So anime downvoting = mods/admin getting the blame. I get why this is such a huge deal. If it gets attention, then it's like playing a game. In my opinion it's better than civilization :p
 
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Hori shit, 7.8s.

Some people here are saying that scores don't matter but most of my friend pick up something to watch only if the score is good. Scores are important, you know. I also look at the steam user score/reviews before buying the game.
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Wow.. From 364 to 531 voters of 1's.. What worthless dedicated of users. No review for 1 means nobody will believe that scoring. Still though, Chihayafuru brought out one of the best anime series of the season.
 
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FUCKIN 12% 1/10 LIKE I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS ANIME BUT THAT'S CLEAR BULLSHIT
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i can't say anymore for the poor (p) haters who give this masterpiece anime of this season a fucking 1 score , atleats i know why madhouse give this series a sequel again after 5 years and not continued the isekai one :p (simeib)
 
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I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well.

Also, if MAL actually does something about troll accounts then I don't think many top anime with big fandoms will have same score they have now.


Vinland Saga fanbase become insecure when they realise Chihayafuru 3 beat Vinland Saga in rating. Its when Chihayafuru 3 beat Vinland Saga, only then the rating drop.
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Only 12% of 1/10, I really do not see the issue, but when it comes to 50%, maybe it will be time to notice that some temporary solution should have be found a long time ago. Of course it will not change anything to my life, but this is too bad that it may restrict the number of future watchers. One could also think that this is great publicity for the title and that the downers are actually fans of Chihayafuru with good intentions...
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Hori shit, 7.8s.

Some people here are saying that scores don't matter but most of my friend pick up something to watch only if the score is good.


I'm aware that this whole situation is truly pathetic, that it shouldn't be allowed to happen and that the current score is twisted by a no-lifer, but hey, regardless of all that, a 7.8 is still technically a "good" score...
 
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I don't think this method works. I mean the trolls can easily change their way of scoring from 1 and 10 to 2 and 9. in my opinion, MAL should force their members to add more information to their accounts like phone numbers, but this way may irritate some members and make them leave the website.
What about making your vote valid on the global score only after validating your account? I mean, you can still vote and have your rankings, but it's not going to be counted on the global score.

Good point! Even though it may still irritate some members, it is better than what is happening right now. I mean if this shit continues, MAL will lose their relevance.
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Good point! Even though it may still irritate some members, it is better than what is happening right now. I mean if this shit continues, MAL will lose their relevance.
It's not even necessary to do it via phone number (even though it would be the best option). You can use Facebook, Twitter or Instagram for it, like some other pages do, to be less invasive.
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they were relevant at some point?
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Good point! Even though it may still irritate some members, it is better than what is happening right now. I mean if this shit continues, MAL will lose their relevance.
It's not even necessary to do it via phone number (even though it would be the best option). You can use Facebook, Twitter or Instagram for it, like some other pages do, to be less invasive.
I don't see much difference between them. The trolls can create multiple Facebook, Twiteer, or Instagram acounts like email. it is just harder than before. Yeah maybe less invasive.
 
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they were never relevant
I don't care about MAL scores
 
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Good point! Even though it may still irritate some members, it is better than what is happening right now. I mean if this shit continues, MAL will lose their relevance.
It's not even necessary to do it via phone number (even though it would be the best option). You can use Facebook, Twitter or Instagram for it, like some other pages do, to be less invasive.


People can still create duplicate accounts using Facebook, Twitter etc
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Yes, scores are helpful and matter to an extent. You can't do anything about that no matter how much you think saying they don't matter makes you look cool.
And I have already sworn at the trolls in my head and am this far from swearing at those b- nevermind.
 
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