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i made a reply about this on another thread but might as well make a separate thread about this for more exposure



so thoughts? to me all this western censorship is so overblown compared to china censorship
 
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How about we call netero and tell him to nuke half of china's population?
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None of this would have been a problem if we had a trade block like TTIP to combat the CCP's influence.
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I don't wanna watch the video, china is communist, of course they censor everything that they don't like, it's only in china though, they can't censor anime that airs on NHK or TBS or whatever
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so thoughts? to me all this western censorship is so overblown compared to china censorship

The point is that the West tries to force "morals" on Japan itself and can't separate fiction from reality.

China doesn't do that.
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deg said:
so thoughts? to me all this western censorship is so overblown compared to china censorship

The point is that the West tries to force "morals" on Japan itself and can't separate fiction from reality.

China doesn't do that.


what morals though? because China guidelines on anime censorship includes this

the ministry began blacklisting titles that "include scenes of violence, pornography, terrorism and crimes against public morality." https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-09/china-blacklists-attack-on-titan-death-note-36-more-anime-manga/.89055
 
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China isn't going to force them to go sjw though.

 
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C'mon, deg, don't you know that there's nothing worse than SJW western sensitivities? Not even a neighboring dictatorship's arbitrary censoring with the biggest foreign market influence on our great and unaffected Japan? Don't be silly, you.
 
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China isn't going to force them to go sjw though.


lol what kind of SJW censorship is more worse than Chinas censorship guidelines?

i meaan i remember on /r/DOTA2 how China bans even showing nice polygon counted ass of female video game characters and they also ban any type of blood on games so its just a matter of time when Anime gets affected by that
 
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what morals though? because China guidelines on anime censorship includes this

the ministry began blacklisting titles that "include scenes of violence, pornography, terrorism and crimes against public morality." https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-09/china-blacklists-attack-on-titan-death-note-36-more-anime-manga/.89055

No. The West tries to police Japan as a society is what I said. This is beyond anime.
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Nah China is still 100 times better than USA .
although i don't give a shit about both of them .
but overall USA is racist and SJW controlling the country make it worst
so the censorship of USA will just be as evil as thier agendas
 
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ryougine said:
How about we call netero and tell him to nuke half of china's population?


Well, let's leave this to the US military because the only thing they do is nuking peaceful countries and help the evil countries and starting civilian wars to sell arms .
 
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The real question is what you think western censorship was in the first place because I bet it's bullshit.
 
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The real question is what you think western censorship was in the first place because I bet it's bullshit.


just read the thread replies and see the magic word SJW
 
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At least China is closer culturally to Japan and anime. America and Europe want to erase anime from kids minds since now they can make their own safe cgi and flash cartoons
 
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Netflix is worse with their demon and furry porn propaganda, SJW Twitter has no mercy and PC culture will make my waifus boobs smaller
 
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deg said:
Tylaen said:
The real question is what you think western censorship was in the first place because I bet it's bullshit.


just read the thread replies and see the magic word SJW
Not a whole lot of 'magical' about it.
 
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The last worst censorship I remember was either "Terra Formars" or "Tokyo Ghoul". Thank goodness I haven't watched anything that requires censoring recently, apparently. Though I think that while I hate it, in the end its up to the government. When it starts caring about what I want, I'll give my opinion free of charge.
 
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While I've never liked how it feels like people "who defend the west" or whatever downplay some of the censorship and creative control oriented aspects of movements such as modern feminism and how many use various shaming and labeling tactics to try to pressure people to fall in line with them lest they get labeled a woman hater or something, yeah, I can definitely agree that China is a bigger threat. I've said that multiple times already anyway, though, so meh. No, criticisms and concerns don't suddenly disappear and repulsive aspects of a movement aren't suddenly absolved because there's a bigger threat. Multiple threats can exist on multiple fronts and multiple disgusting things can be disgusting in tandem with one another.

But in general, yeah, China has higher potential to fuck with shit, definitely, I 100% agree with that and that's been my stance for a while now. It already shows with the multitude of corporations that only gave lipservice-y fucks at best about things these movements in the west advocate that have directly bowed down to them on more than one occasion. The market there is completely and entirely more lucrative, it's very fast growing, and the government takes advantage of as much with foreign corporations already to promote their repulsive, authoritarian values.

Then again, my stance on China is kinda chaotic evil in that I wouldn't mind just lobbing nukes at them and hoping for the best case scenario of MAD or something. Better to be dead than to be the little bitch of that kind of regime ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Also, imagine being one of the self-blinding fuckwits in this thread that's unironically thinking that a movement that's currently backed primarily by the female equivalent of neckbeards whining on fucking twitter in their little hugbox online circles about how they can't control what other people fap to, how nobody wants to marry them and how it totally has nothing to do with them being insufferable fucking people and is *really* all due to neo-naziism and woman-hating, or that some fictional character is more attractive than them, is more of a threat than an authoritarian regime holding onto an insanely lucrative consumer market, has one of the fastest growing economies in the world (if not the fastest, iirc) and one of the largest military presences on the globe, that also has corporations from all over the globe lining up to kiss Winnie the Pooh's fucking feet and censor everything the most sensitive man in the world takes issue with.

God, every time I want to agree with somebody about the validity of their concerns they seem to want to shoot themselves in the foot instead. There's no winning using this fucking board, only killing time to wait for the sweet release of death.
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I don't wanna watch the video, china is communist, of course they censor everything that they don't like, it's only in china though, they can't censor anime that airs on NHK or TBS or whatever

Production will be made to appeal Chinese market and for things to be able to sell there. That will cause for any taboo subjects and content that needs censoring diminishing. Worst case scenario corporations won't pick any such works with those due to fear of losing money. Even in Hollywood Disney changed The ancient one characters ethnicity from Tibetan to Celtic in Doctor strange movie to appeal to Chinese demographic.

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C'mon, deg, don't you know that there's nothing worse than SJW western sensitivities? Not even a neighboring dictatorship's arbitrary censoring with the biggest foreign market influence on our great and unaffected Japan? Don't be silly, you.

Hey now, do you wish for your dakimakura having voice box and everytime you "hugged" it it'll start a lecture on intersectional feminism on you? I can't cum on that.
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Hey now, do you wish for your dakimakura having voice box and everytime you "hugged" it it'll start a lecture on intersectional feminism on you? I can't cum on that.

I mean, obviously not. Supporting intersectional feminism and being attractive in any way whatsoever are mutually exclusive things.

That just sounds like a shitty sex toy you spent your money on, honestly.
 
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Hey now, do you wish for your dakimakura having voice box and everytime you "hugged" it it'll start a lecture on intersectional feminism on you? I can't cum on that.

I mean, obviously not. Supporting intersectional feminism and being attractive in any way whatsoever are mutually exclusive things.

That just sounds like a shitty sex toy you spent your money on, honestly.

Don't you start trash talk how i spend my money. Someone needs to try these to make a review!
 
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konkelo said:
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C'mon, deg, don't you know that there's nothing worse than SJW western sensitivities? Not even a neighboring dictatorship's arbitrary censoring with the biggest foreign market influence on our great and unaffected Japan? Don't be silly, you.

Hey now, do you wish for your dakimakura having voice box and everytime you "hugged" it it'll start a lecture on intersectional feminism on you? I can't cum on that.
Now, now, I did nothing to warrant this amount of kink-shaming.
 
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I don't wanna watch the video, china is communist, of course they censor everything that they don't like, it's only in china though, they can't censor anime that airs on NHK or TBS or whatever

Production will be made to appeal Chinese market and for things to be able to sell there. That will cause for any taboo subjects and content that needs censoring diminishing. Worst case scenario corporations won't pick any such works with those due to fear of losing money. Even in Hollywood Disney changed The ancient one characters ethnicity from Tibetan to Celtic in Doctor strange movie to appeal to Chinese demographic.


Soon enough they'll run outta good stories and ironically, chinese won't watch anime because they will be uninteresting. What will the chinese gov. do? they need bread and circus to maintain the status quo, so they will let anime be wild.
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Don't you start trash talk how i spend my money. Someone needs to try these to make a review!

Considering the market you're trying to corner and their interest in critical breakdowns of what they're fapping to, I wish you the best of luck in trying to earn a percent of a percent back of the triple digits it can cost for a daki, then.
 
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That's actually a real danger since it's already happening everywhere in the world of gaming and apps. But I'm sadly sure that the anti-western hatemongers won't care, they would rather live in a communist regime with no individual freedom than see representation of minorities in media in any shape or form. They 'anti-censorship' narrative they paint regarding why they hate everything western and liberal is just a farce because in reality it's them who want to censor media so they never ever have to see certain values or minorities represented in them. And under China's censorship they won't have to worry about that. I bet most of them would gladly sell their personal freedom of expression, and probably their soul as well, just to achieve that goal even if a million other things have to get sacrificed in the process.

You don't see them care about China forcing censorship in the gaming world either, instead they are still hung up on 'gamergate' most likely.

Honestly, our society deserves China to become our new Overlords considering how utterly stupid the majority is. Let's just embrace it. I just hope they ban everything ecchi as well so the anti-SJW retards quickly realize their retardation in preferring dictatorial censorship over the promotion of liberal values. Because unlike 'SJWs' you won't be able to engage them in online debates, calling them names, making up lies about them and voicing your unhappiness with the situation. Maybe then they will finally realize the difference between actual dictatorial censorship and some media creators simply promoting different political values than their own in their works, out of their own volition.

Though to be honest, they probably won't. One brain cell is not enough to have ANY kind of realization, just to parrot and chant cheap slogans prepared for them by manipulative right-wing politicians. I doubt they can even process any kind of information. They can hold exactly one opinion at a time, and that opinion is 'the west and everything liberal is the devil'.

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If only the Japanese anime industry take a page out of South Park and say "fuck you" to the Chinese government
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Catalano said:
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Production will be made to appeal Chinese market and for things to be able to sell there. That will cause for any taboo subjects and content that needs censoring diminishing. Worst case scenario corporations won't pick any such works with those due to fear of losing money. Even in Hollywood Disney changed The ancient one characters ethnicity from Tibetan to Celtic in Doctor strange movie to appeal to Chinese demographic.


Soon enough they'll run outta good stories and ironically, chinese won't watch anime because they will be uninteresting. What will the chinese gov. do? they need bread and circus to maintain the status quo, so they will let anime be wild.

It's not like Chineses don't watch their own entertainment regardless it being censored. More likely Japan's own market will keep growing smaller before Chinese interest in animanga stops.

@Kosmonaut Are you sure? Your forum pics tell me otherwise.

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I trust the Chinese way more than the West not to censor the things I actually care about.
I doubt they'll be the ones demanding diversity and an end to attractive females who are also nice, pure and traditional.
 
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Who even cares what happen in china. They do whatever the fuck they want. They banned pewds for reacting to a meme.
 
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I trust the Chinese way more than the West not to censor the things I actually care about.
I doubt they'll be the ones demanding diversity and an end to attractive females who are also nice, pure and traditional.

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Censorship of any kind sucks, unfortunately there are ignorant people out there who demand it and companies and governments that are more than happy to do it. Good thing that Japan doesn't care all that much about what outsiders think.




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I see a fair few people hating on feminism here and even one preferring Chinese control over that (Okay buddy), and all I can surmise is a delusion with how women are supposed to be and what they are.

I'd be fairly surprised if many don't hold other regressive views that are as insultingly stupid as their supposed views on censorship, something this forum and others are so quick to shout.
 
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As far as I am concerned, I haven't watched any chinese anime yet. If you know any please let me know, I am actually quite curious about it.

Let's face it, censorship is everywhere on the internet and it's getting worse and worse every year, no matter where you are. We know, that China is communist and communism is ideology, that should be illegal along with fascism.

West is not overblown, when democratic country starts censoring or banning content that is not related with anything ugly like supporting hate towards people, child porn or racism, then it's a bad sign and it should not be taken lightly or ignored.

 
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I see a fair few people hating on feminism here and even one preferring Chinese control over that (Okay buddy), and all I can surmise is a delusion with how women are supposed to be and what they are.

I'd be fairly surprised if many don't hold other regressive views that are as insultingly stupid as their supposed views on censorship, something this forum and others are so quick to shout.


Maybe if SJW would fight against actual issues (like how women are treated on Middle East where for example one women have to put herself on fire so others could watch a soccer match inside of a stadium) instead of fighting for bullshit like manspreading or in case of anime waiting for anything to happen to complain about (Goblin Slayer rape scene, Shield Hero false accusation, Boku No Hero killing a transgender, or wanting to ban lolis or fanservice on general because cartoons are offensive to them) would be more easy to take them seriously, but no, SJW in general are hypocrites who prefer to fight against the evil japanese making cartoons or videogames instead of people treating women like property on the middle east.

What I found stupid it's how people like to demonize others because they would like to watch cartoons on peace and don't care about politics but are forced to deal with it because the first group won't shut up about how it's an absolute true that anyone watching a fourteen girl years old with green hair using magic are pedophiles rapists because said girl have boobs.
It's tiresome to see that those people will find reasons to complaing every 3 months while will start calling names and insult people just for watching stuff they don't like and then when they people they attack react they are always the victims.

But yeah, it's about hating women and having a twisted version about them, and not about hypocrites don't wanting to leave others enjoy theirs hobbies on peace.
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are you sure japan will be making anime with chinese market in mind? it was almost never the case for the western audience, except for few titles like bebop, space dandy, panty & stocking, etc. so what makes you think they will suddenly start picking up more tame titles or censor them to make them "harmonious"?
 
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I see a fair few people hating on feminism here and even one preferring Chinese control over that (Okay buddy), and all I can surmise is a delusion with how women are supposed to be and what they are.

I'd be fairly surprised if many don't hold other regressive views that are as insultingly stupid as their supposed views on censorship, something this forum and others are so quick to shout.


They probably imagine people you seen in SJW cringe compilations to be behind creative decisions in media.

Something along those lines, shit is blown way out of proportion. It became apparent after the whiny ass rants about C&T. It's also a delusion on what anime and Japan are supposed to be.

@Heimur Well it's not like any of those Twitter controversies had any influence on the anime industry whatsoever afaik. There's more proof that China will actually be invading first, which will have a bigger impact on the medium.
 
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As far as I am concerned, I haven't watched any chinese anime yet. If you know any please let me know, I am actually quite curious about it.

This Club is good for tracking down chinese animations on MAL. I have only just watched some of magical girl series Ba La La Xiao Mo Xian Zhi. Cupid's Chocolates I have heard is pretty close to anime with all that harem stuff and Crunchyroll has some shows available too but apparently with Japanese audio. Also quite many fujoshi/fudanshi rave over at least Mo Dao Zu Shi comic. Those are anime-ish in style, for other Chinese animation Netflix at least had Door Guardians available. Older short animation The nine-coloured deer 1981 has sweet stylization and first full length animated movie from Asia Princess Iron Fan 1941 is also good for its time and has classic Chinese fairy tale.
 
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I see a fair few people hating on feminism here and even one preferring Chinese control over that (Okay buddy), and all I can surmise is a delusion with how women are supposed to be and what they are.

I'd be fairly surprised if many don't hold other regressive views that are as insultingly stupid as their supposed views on censorship, something this forum and others are so quick to shout.

feminists tried to censor anime and manga, but they were rebuked by female authors in Japan.
 
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Japanese anime studios still make anime for Japanese viewers, not for Western audiences or Asian audiences. The reason why China has a huge anime fanbase is because they bootleg everything. There are already anime geared towards a CHinese audience anyways and they will likely stay niche the same way anime geared towards Western audiences are. And, as someone pointed out before, China censors and cuts out everything. Fans there just sneak past this with VPNs and stuff. There's a reason China has the largest bootleg server of the Kantai Collection online game.
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@konkelo You just can't handle a weak dependent male that is proud of enjoying being given a lecture about intersectional feminism when he hugs his dakimakura of a slightly repulsed female.
 
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Heimur said:
Tylaen said:
I see a fair few people hating on feminism here and even one preferring Chinese control over that (Okay buddy), and all I can surmise is a delusion with how women are supposed to be and what they are.

I'd be fairly surprised if many don't hold other regressive views that are as insultingly stupid as their supposed views on censorship, something this forum and others are so quick to shout.


Maybe if SJW would fight against actual issues (like how women are treated on Middle East where for example one women have to put herself on fire so others could watch a soccer match inside of a stadium) instead of fighting for bullshit like manspreading or in case of anime waiting for anything to happen to complain about (Goblin Slayer rape scene, Shield Hero false accusation, Boku No Hero killing a transgender, or wanting to ban lolis or fanservice on general because cartoons are offensive to them) would be more easy to take them seriously, but no, SJW in general are hypocrites who prefer to fight against the evil japanese making cartoons or videogames instead of people treating women like property on the middle east.

What I found stupid it's how people like to demonize others because they would like to watch cartoons on peace and don't care about politics but are forced to deal with it because the first group won't shut up about how it's an absolute true that anyone watching a fourteen girl years old with green hair using magic are pedophiles rapists because said girl have boobs.
It's tiresome to see that those people will find reasons to complaing every 3 months while will start calling names and insult people just for watching stuff they don't like and then when they people they attack react they are always the victims.

But yeah, it's about hating women and having a twisted version about them, and not about hypocrites don't wanting to leave others enjoy theirs hobbies on peace.


wait did boku no hero really killrd a transgender ?
damn i really hate that garbage anime but i should give it some point for actualy annoying those pathetic SJW
 
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@Kosmonaut very unorthodox situation, usually it's obese hairy guy who smells like ass hugging daki of slightly repulsed female. Well maybe if you dressed in skirt I might... - I mean, weak is gross. I bet you like Vagina monologues too and bathe in soy milk.
 
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@Kosmonaut very unorthodox situation, usually it's obese hairy guy who smells like ass hugging daki of slightly repulsed female. Well maybe if you dressed in skirt I might... - I mean, weak is gross. I bet you like Vagina monologues too and bathe in soy milk.
Soy is pretty good in general, actually, so I'd consider that a good choice if he chooses to digest it instead.
 
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@Kosmonaut very unorthodox situation, usually it's obese hairy guy who smells like ass hugging daki of slightly repulsed female. Well maybe if you dressed in skirt I might... - I mean, weak is gross. I bet you like Vagina monologues too and bathe in soy milk.
Actually, I take soy milk the manly way: by anal suppositories.

If you ask me nicely, I might wear a skirt just for you, anon.

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@Kosmonaut very unorthodox situation, usually it's obese hairy guy who smells like ass hugging daki of slightly repulsed female. Well maybe if you dressed in skirt I might... - I mean, weak is gross. I bet you like Vagina monologues too and bathe in soy milk.
Soy is pretty good in general, actually, so I'd consider that a good choice if he chooses to digest it instead.
As I said, by anal suppositories is the best way to ingest your dose of soy milk.
 
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Soy is pretty good in general, actually, so I'd consider that a good choice if he chooses to digest it instead.
As I said, by anal suppositories is the best way to ingest your dose of soy milk.
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Hey now, do you wish for your dakimakura having voice box and everytime you "hugged" it it'll start a lecture on intersectional feminism on you? I can't cum on that.

No. But it would be great if it lectured me after I came.
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China will just censor for China so it has not effect on anyone but the Chinese. The rest of the world is not going to remove Winnie The Pooh from anime.

The US will attempt to censor for the whole of the world so it effects all the English speaking people.
You see it with Crunchyroll having the censored version of Kandagawa Jet Girls even though the uncensored version is available at the same time.
 
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The US will attempt to censor for the whole of the world so it effects all the English speaking people.
You see it with Crunchyroll having the censored version of Kandagawa Jet Girls even though the uncensored version is available at the same time.

You're blaming the wrong business. Crunchyroll uploads what they get from Japan. Those censored versions were already edited usually for TV broadcasting and uncensored might be limited to some other streaming services. In some rare cases CR may even have uncensored version like they have rights to stream Yu-Gi-Oh japanese version. Kadogawa jet girls is available uncensored in HIDIVE, which is American business.

@Kosmonaut And there goes another ass ruined, damn shame.

Me and nice don't go together. I guess you need to search for a new anon to make you wear a skirt.

@Freshell Well that's just sick. No wonder you are in MAL.

@Tylaen I prefer my local options oat and broad bean. Admittedly soy yogurt is cheapest and sets nicely, so I use it often in vegan cheesecakes and pies.
 
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The uncensored versions are also broadcast the same day, in fact I have never seen an uncensored anime from them. They have gone full SJW with the femnazi anime so I can only assume it is a decision not to air nudity because it offends the hairy legged brigade that has infested them.

 
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