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Nov 9, 8:41 PM
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Let's see how your list compares to others.
Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Hunter X Hunter
Gintama (serious arcs)
One Piece
Demon Slayer
My Hero Academia
Naruto
Black Clover (tied with Naruto, but could pass it)
Bleach
Dragonball
Fairytail

One thing I have to add is that Demon Slayer has the potential to be FMAB levels of good and the manga seems to be headed that way, so list adjustments are likely.

I have finished or am caught up to the latest manga chapter for all these, and I partially pieced together this list by considering critical reviews for these series.
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40 pages of narrative dialogues in every 50 pages is not good writing skill. Hunter x Hunter is overrated.
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I'll write down a list based on the shonens I've watched so far.

Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Attack on Titan
Death Note
Naruto
The promised neverland
FMAB
HxH
Seven deadly sins
One Piece(dropped at episode 50)
Fairy Tail(dropped the Final season)
Black Clover(dropped at episode 43)
 
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I don't disagree, infact I frequently joke about reading a new novel whenever a HxH chapter drops, but Togashi's writing is a level of genius that subverts even subversions...

But then, alot of picky connoisseur type people hate character driven stories.

...or maybe it's the information density...
 
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ThEOnlYMaNAlivE said:
I'll write down a list based on the shonens I've watched so far.

Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Attack on Titan
Death Note
Naruto
The promised neverland
FMAB
HxH
Seven deadly sins
One Piece(dropped at episode 50)
Fairy Tail(dropped the Final season)
Black Clover(dropped at episode 43)


I don't know if they are, but AoT and 7DS don't really fit the "mainstream shonen" label. AoT would be high on this list if it did.
 
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Pretty sure that more people know about Attack on Titan than about Black Cover, Gintama or Fairy Tail.

Also that threads like this that can easily turn on a flame war aren't really allowed.

 
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Jyiber said:
Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Hunter X Hunter
Gintama (serious arcs)
One Piece
Demon Slayer
Naruto
Black Clover (tied with Naruto, but could pass it)
Bleach
Dragonball
Fairytail

One thing I have to add is that Demon Slayer has the potential to be FMAB levels of good and the manga seems to be headed that way, so list adjustments are likely.
Why aren't guys talking about Magi?? It has got some very interesting plot. Please watch it and read the manga too.
 
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what's the point of this thread exactly?
 
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Attack on Titan >>>>>>>> wall >>>>>>>>>> the rest
 
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Just a glance at other peoples objective views on writing... let's avoid flame wars.
 
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Jyiber said:
Just a glance at other peoples objective views on writing... let's avoid flame wars.


Subjective views you mean. Nobody here (including me) knows anything about writing skills, it's all personal preferences.
This could easily have been a simple blog post, but nah a flame war is much more fun
 
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My list will be

Attack on Titan
Full Metal Alchemist
Hunter x Hunter
Jojo Part 4
D Gray Man
Gintama
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Fairy Tail
Nanatsu no Taizai
Shokugeki no Soma

Edited Spy X Family because i realised this thread only requires shounens that received anime.
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Arjuna777 said:
My list will be

Attack on Titan
Full Metal Alchemist
Hunter x Hunter
Spy x Family
D Gray Man
Gintama
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Fairy Tail
Nanatsu no Taizai
Shokugeki no Soma



ayy, D Gray Man is pretty good right?
It's kinda rare to see people talk about it
It didn't become as popular as other shounens at the time for some reason, i always thought it was pretty good.
 
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Aniik8pv2 said:
Jyiber said:
Just a glance at other peoples objective views on writing... let's avoid flame wars.


Subjective views you mean. Nobody here (including me) knows anything about writing skills, it's all personal preferences.
This could easily have been a simple blog post, but nah a flame war is much more fun


First post on the forum and I guess I'm just feeling out what level of cancer I'm dealing with...
 
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Aniik8pv2 said:
Arjuna777 said:
My list will be

Attack on Titan
Full Metal Alchemist
Hunter x Hunter
Spy x Family
D Gray Man
Gintama
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Fairy Tail
Nanatsu no Taizai
Shokugeki no Soma



ayy, D Gray Man is pretty good right?
It's kinda rare to see people talk about it
It didn't become as popular as other shounens at the time for some reason, i always thought it was pretty good.


Yeah it is an underrated gem.

It is really good.






 
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AOT isn't a shounen in the slightest anymore, but it's still published in a shounen magazine so it still technically is, in terms of writing it's easily at the top. Fairy Tail is unquestionably at the very bottom with literally ZERO competition lol
 
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How would you define "writing skill"?
 
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adityush007 said:
Jyiber said:
Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Hunter X Hunter
Gintama (serious arcs)
One Piece
Demon Slayer
Naruto
Black Clover (tied with Naruto, but could pass it)
Bleach
Dragonball
Fairytail

One thing I have to add is that Demon Slayer has the potential to be FMAB levels of good and the manga seems to be headed that way, so list adjustments are likely.
Why aren't guys talking about Magi?? It has got some very interesting plot. Please watch it and read the manga too.


Magi is good. Just never picked up the manga and did get a spoiler that might be be big or small about Ugo potentially being a final antagonist.
 
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Yeah at least cite your writing skills references so others can try to understand your point of view. Right now there's no graph to look at nor there is a clear-cut definition.
 
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How would you define "writing skill"?

Writing skill is very a very genera label, but I'd say it revolves around how much foresight the author has and is strengthened by worldbuilding and clever plot twists (that aren't cheap.) Tighter narratives and shorter stories have the edge here, but every once in a while a Oda shows up.
 
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Based off what I've seen:
FMAB
AOT
Death Note
HunterxHunter
One Piece
Naruto
My Hero
Demon Slayer
Black Clover
Dragon Ball
 
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big LOL..

I come here to laugh at you.
 
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I wish Katte ni kaizu had a full adaptation. From Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei author. They only made an OVA
 
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Jyiber said:
adityush007 said:
Why aren't guys talking about Magi?? It has got some very interesting plot. Please watch it and read the manga too.


Magi is good. Just never picked up the manga and did get a spoiler that might be be big or small about Ugo potentially being a final antagonist.

And now I can never read Magi too. Thanks for not using the spoiler tag.
 
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big LOL..

I come here to laugh at you.


Cool, at least I can agree that we are on the same page.
 
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I think what u meant is Battle Shounen instead of shounen term in general.

There are other shounen beside than battle shounen such as Sport Shounen (Eyeshield 21, Kuroko no Basuke, Slam Dunk, Hikaru no Go,etc) and also Slice of Life Shounen (Bakuman, Saiki Kusuo, Nisekoi, etc)
Oh, and I am actually looking for a girlfriend to talk about anime, novels, and beyond. If you are single and interested just tell me. (Serious)
 
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Here's my objective view on battle shounen writing skills.

1. AoT
2. FMA: Brotherhood
3. One Piece
4. Naruto
5. Gintama
6. HSDK
7. Nanatsu no Taizai
8. Magi
9. Hunter X Hunter
10. My Hero Academia
11. Demon Slayer
12.Fairy Tail
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Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Hunter x Hunter
SNK
One Piece
Gurren Lagann
Mob Psycho 100
Yuu Yuu Hakusho
Promised Neverland
Hero Academia
Nurahiyon no Mago
Assasination Clasroom
One Punch Man
MAGI
Tenslime
Beelzebub
Kekkai Sensen
Dragonball
Bleach
Seven Deadly Sins
D Gray Man
Demon Slayer
Akame Ga Kill
Kekkaishi
Fire Force
Letter Bee
Fairy Tail
Dr. Stone
Saint Seiya
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For story writing

magi
hxh
gintama
kenshin
fma

For emotions

kimetsu no yaiba
konjiki no gash
doubutsu no kuni
gintama
magi

For characters

kimetsu no yaiba
magi
hxh
konjiki no gash
gintama

For setting

magi
hxh
one piece
gintama
fma

For fights

kimetsu no yaiba
hxh
gintama
magi
sengoku youko

My top 3

Kimetsu no yaiba
Konjiki no gash
Magi

if you talk about all type of shonen then

Hi no tori
Ashita no joe
Shonan junai gumi

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Jyiber said:
adityush007 said:
Why aren't guys talking about Magi?? It has got some very interesting plot. Please watch it and read the manga too.


Magi is good. Just never picked up the manga and did get a spoiler that might be be big or small about Ugo potentially being a final antagonist.
Don't worry. It's has some very interesting elements in between. A must read.
P.S - I too haven't actually finished the whole of manga. So the absence of spoiler tag was a surprise for me too. But I had read upto the point that I had got a gist about this ending.
 
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adityush007 said:
Jyiber said:


Magi is good. Just never picked up the manga and did get a spoiler that might be be big or small about Ugo potentially being a final antagonist.
Don't worry. It's has some very interesting elements in between. A must read.
P.S - I too haven't actually finished the whole of manga. So the absence of spoiler tag was a surprise for me too. But I had read upto the point that I had got a gist about this ending.
adityush007 said:
Jyiber said:


Magi is good. Just never picked up the manga and did get a spoiler that might be be big or small about Ugo potentially being a final antagonist.
Don't worry. It's has some very interesting elements in between. A must read.
P.S - I too haven't actually finished the whole of manga. So the absence of spoiler tag was a surprise for me too. But I had read upto the point that I had got a gist about this ending.


The manga is bad in my opinion. But, reading it till the end won't be for nothing. It has its own pros and cons.
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Honestly I hate the serious arcs of Gintama, I consider them the weak point of the Manga.

Anyway Ashita no Joe > everything in this list by miles.
 
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Demon Slayer quality writing is in the level of FMA ? Are you joking or what lol ?
Gintama serious arcs is not better than say Naruto, the strength of Gintama is in comedy.
 
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Aniik8pv2 said:
what's the point of this thread exactly?


I was thinking the exact same thing.
Plus, there are tons of shounen anime, but OP and the others listed just a few.
 
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Dragon Ball keeps me entertained more than anything else, and it's not like I didn't experience behemoths such as LOGH, Death Note, Serial Experiments Lain, Yokohama Kaidashi Kiko, Berserk, etc...

Btw, I already mentioned this before, but for me Hunter x Hunter is shonen garbage to end all shonen garbage, which had FOUR main characters, but decided to ignore TWO of them, especially Leorio, and focus only on Gon x Killua thing.

I mean, what kind of an author neglects fucking rest of the main characters?
 
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Dragon Ball keeps me entertained more than anything else, and it's not like I didn't experience behemoths such as LOGH, Death Note, Serial Experiments Lain, Yokohama Kaidashi Kiko, Berserk, etc...

Btw, I already mentioned this before, but for me Hunter x Hunter is shonen garbage to end all shonen garbage, which had FOUR main characters, but decided to ignore TWO of them, especially Leorio, and focus only on Gon x Killua thing.

I mean, what kind of an author neglects fucking rest of the main characters?


He didn't neglect them. He intended to make a story arc for each of them, but ended up holding the manga on hiatus :b
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Ashita no joe tier.
Ashita no joe

Great
HxH (2011) its pretty close to Ashita no joe actually, but not really :)

Yay....
Baby steps
Kimetsu no Yaiba
FMA:B

Meh
Shingeki no Kyojin
Dragonball
Haikyuu

Trash tier
BNHA
Fairytail
Naruto
Black Clover
Fairytail


I probably watched more but those are the most memorable ones.Not my favorite genre similar to modern super heroes its just fights and nothing really worthwhile from a writing standpoint (at least for most of them).


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He didn't neglect them. He intended to make a story arc for each of them, but ended up holding the manga on hiatus :b
Believe me, I saw more than enough anime / read manga, that I more or less know how, and what is any author thinking regarding their characters, once I get more into their works.

Regarding Togashi, he is a textbook example of an author who mostly focuses on what is generally perceived as cool.

It was obvious since his Yu Yu Hakusho days, where Kazuma Kuwabara received less attention compared to the rest of the characters, for obvious reasons, if you have eyes, and think about it.

In Hunter x Hunter, Gon is main main character, and him being old school type of positive, never giving up shonen protagonist is very popular anyway, Killua just oozes that Hiei aura - he is badass short ( a lot of people love short anime characters for reasons) boy with dark side to them, and being quite capable at combat.

In a way, Kurapika is as badass as Killua in his own way, and he had a focus on him during Yorknew City arc, but that was kinda years ago - still, more than what Leorio ever got.

Even in Election arc, where we have Leorio again, and that punch thing of his, it felt more like just a pathetic bone thrown to a starved dog, and arc itself was more about Killua (again), Alluka, Ging, and Pariston.

In Togashi's eyes, Leorio is simply the type of those positive, big, but not cool looking, older characters, if you know what I mean.

As for another reason why I am certain that he decided to just focus on Gon, and Killua alone later on, it is most likely because of their contrast - they are around same age, and size, but there is the whole light / dark thing about them.

That especially worked for Killua, because in Japan, dark/evil/negative characters going light/good/positive is something that people just love in most cases, especially if that is caused by the interference of the already positive natured protagonist, Gon in this case, whom viewer usually associate with the most.

In short both of them complement each other, rendering other main characters as third, or fourth wheel.

In a similar manner, worked relationship between Meruem, and Komugi (IMO, with some changes to the plot, Leorio could have easily have Komugi's role, or something along the line, in Chimera Ant arc.

...

There is a reason why certain characters will obviously always be popular than others, even in Togashi`s works.
 
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TOP tier
Hunter x Hunter
Gunnm
Ashita No Joe
Rokudenashi Blues

HIGH tier
Yu Yu Hakusho
JoJo
FotNS

MID tier
One Piece
FMA:B
Shingeki no Kyojin
One Punch Man

SHIT tier
Dragonball
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Bleach
Naruto
My Hero Academia
 
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TOP tier
Hunter x Hunter
Gunnm
Ashita No Joe
Rokudenashi Blues

HIGH tier
Yu Yu Hakusho
JoJo
FotNS

MID tier
One Piece
FMA:B
Shingeki no Kyojin
One Punch Man

SHIT tier
Dragonball
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Bleach
Naruto
My Hero Academia


Gunnm and One Punch Man are seinen though.
 
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vvvwwi said:
TOP tier
Hunter x Hunter
Gunnm
Ashita No Joe
Rokudenashi Blues

HIGH tier
Yu Yu Hakusho
JoJo
FotNS

MID tier
One Piece
FMA:B
Shingeki no Kyojin
One Punch Man

SHIT tier
Dragonball
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Bleach
Naruto
My Hero Academia


Gunnm and One Punch Man are seinen though.


Ooooooooooopsie, my bad
I'm sorry..
 
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Well....

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood: I never watched it.
Hunter X Hunter: I never watched it.
Gintama (serious arcs): I never watched it.
One Piece: average writing, overrated.
Demon Slayer: ok writing.
My Hero Academia: good writing.
Naruto: decent first part, trash and overrated second part.
Black Clover: bad writing, overrated.
Bleach: average writing.
Dragonball: ok writing except DBS.
Fairytail: bad writing, overrated.

++++:
*D Gray Man: decent writing, underrated.
*Magi: ok writing, the last arc is shit.

Life has no meaning.
 
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i think this tread is pointless since most people don't read/watch the whole anime\manga if it's long and most people on Mal judge thing from the first 12 or 25 episodes wich give short shounen some advance but anyway i'll answer that for you .
One piece > One Punch Man > HxH > Shokugeki no souma > everything else > My hero academia
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So this is basically a list of your favorite shounen based on your tastes with added dubious parameters called critical reviews.
 
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One thing I have to add is that Demon Slayer has the potential to be FMAB levels of good


Ok, I stopped there. No man, just no.
 
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I had a look at some of the comments to see examples of what sort of series would be included as Shonen. I only know these franchises from the anime though, but IMO the best written are:

1. AOT
2. HxH
3. Naruto/Shippuden
4. The Promised Neverland
5. Assassination Classroom
6. Death Note
7. FMAB
8. Bleach
9. BNHA
10. Fairy Tale
 
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List of objectively best to worst battle shounen (trust me, I'm an expert):

1. Fairy Tail
2. Hajime no Ippo
3. Dragon Ball Z
4. Naruto
5. Bleach
6. Boku no Hero Academia
7. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
8. Ao no Exorcist
9. Nanatsu no Taizai
10. Hunter x Hunter
11. Dragon Ball Super
 
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I still don't know why do people consider AoT as a shounen. To me its very serious type of storytelling and raw tone put it closer to seinen than shounen...

Having teens as main characters doesn't automatically make a show a shounen...
 
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@Ferien I totally agree but I put AOT in my list because I saw that quite a few others did. IF it were to be included in the Shonen category though I'd say it was the best :D
 
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Jyiber said:
Let's see how your list compares to others.
Best to worst mainstream Shonen based on good writing list:

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Hunter X Hunter
Gintama (serious arcs)
One Piece
Demon Slayer
My Hero Academia
Naruto
Black Clover (tied with Naruto, but could pass it)
Bleach
Dragonball
Fairytail

One thing I have to add is that Demon Slayer has the potential to be FMAB levels of good and the manga seems to be headed that way, so list adjustments are likely.

I have finished or am caught up to the latest manga chapter for all these, and I partially pieced together this list by considering critical reviews for these series.


Gintama better than One Piece, and KnY better than BnH?! Thank you, now I know your opinion is pure shit.
 
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