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Nov 10, 2019 6:25 PM
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Nemesis16 said:
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Wait.. Alice loves Kirito.. Eugeo is miserable.. Also, when thinking about Asuna's feeling, I'm sad.. When Asuna will dive there?


Asuna already dived. You all seem to forget that Underworld has time acceleration, so if she entered the system 20 min after the antagonists, she'll reach there days after them, so mid war. That of course isn't a spoiler, it was literally showed in the anime. XD


Yea. You're right. Thank you for reminding me of that. I almost forgot that XD
 
Nov 10, 2019 7:12 PM

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finally the time is here!
they spent half of the season making the intro. let's hope the real deal is not half baked. (or an additional sao movie for the real fight/conclusion of alicization?)
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Nov 10, 2019 7:18 PM

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YumioSF said:
Nemesis16 said:


Asuna already dived. You all seem to forget that Underworld has time acceleration, so if she entered the system 20 min after the antagonists, she'll reach there days after them, so mid war. That of course isn't a spoiler, it was literally showed in the anime. XD


Yea. You're right. Thank you for reminding me of that. I almost forgot that XD


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Nov 10, 2019 9:00 PM

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Great episode.
I can't wait for the next episode!
 
Nov 10, 2019 10:05 PM
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Another awesome episode! Great animation and great buildup to the war!

Kirito is still protecting Alice even in the state he is in, love it.

Tiese and Ronie seeing Kirito and Eugeo (as a sword) for the first time since they left for the battle was sad. Glad Alice was there to cheer them up. Also when Tiese said that Eugeo spoke to her when she made contact with the sword.

I enjoyed the scene where Alice and Fanatio were talking about wanting to talk to Kirito but Alice didn't want her to see him because she is wearing makeup and is more feminine now.

The ending of this episode was so hype when they showed both sides all ready for the final load test to begin and the ending theme playing in the background made it even better!

"If you're awake, it won't matter if the enemy has thousands, or even tens of thousands." Loved this quote

I fall in love with Alice more and more with every episode. Shes a top tier waifu.

 
Nov 11, 2019 12:59 AM

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Alice is really a good girl... Finally the fight is going to happen, and it looks like Asuna is going to arrive anytime now.
 
Nov 11, 2019 1:00 AM
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Alice and kirito moment is my favorite part here... i have nothing else to say, just WATCH THAT PART....

and the FINAL LOAD TEST WILL BEGIN. YEAH
 
Nov 11, 2019 1:40 AM

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I hate to say this but that last part was grand epic!
ALICE is so precious!
Kirito so useless! even the 2 girl are now in charge on protecting him! lolz
5/5.


 
Nov 11, 2019 2:27 AM

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Goddamnit Alice he didn't want the swords this time! /s

The Asuna wait goes on.

For now, let's get to the action next episode.

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I don't get how the MAL ranking has dropped from 8.2 to 7.88, people rating 1's and 2's and doing reviews. If you hate SAO that much just don't watch it, man. We're 4 seasons in at this point, why bother yourself and hurt the score like that?

Read the top review for now, it's so full of delusion you can see why people are trying to brigade the score of this show xD


Dude it genuinely perplexes me, like it's been a decade, if you don't like SAO, just don't watch it
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Nov 11, 2019 3:14 AM

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The ending gave me goosebumps! Except for the last episode, this season has been entertaining asf! Dunno why people who don't' like this even bother watching it just to give it a 1 or a 2, which happens to a lot of things here, *cough* FGO Babylonia *cough*

Some of the comments here just baffle me, some think it 's too much talking and nothing is happening while stuff is happening, just watch people complain about it being a nonstop battle because from here on out that's what it's gonna be for at least 15 episodes.
 
Nov 11, 2019 6:35 AM

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TrueDragonPrince said:
How long does it take for Asuna to show up? It's been too long already. The "Dark" madman had time to organise his pawns and put them in front of the gate. Asuna is taking too long to reveal herself.


For everyone else asking this question, it depends on the pacing. So here is a detailed answer to give you an exact idea based on the current pacing of how much of the LN each episode is covering, where we are at after the end of this episode, and how far that is away from Asuna’s entrance.

 
Nov 11, 2019 12:20 PM
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Just my goodness the music, the direction, the writing in this is going to be a challenge when it comes on Toonami and I am looking forward to it. I did cry for about 45 minutes as the battle looks to be intense and how it will affect outside of reality. There will be things that will get complicated especially already at episode 5 and will probably last for three more episode before it gets to the next climax. LOVE Ronie and Tiese and it will be something unique in Japanese to American translation especially since Kirito in the American version bluntly says rape to Alice and how it will be explained to Alice to the two ladies.
 
Nov 11, 2019 10:19 PM
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i fell in love with this anime. that’s what i have to say. i will cry at the end probably days. :(
 
Nov 11, 2019 10:21 PM
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also i’m curious who asuna will be at underworld. probably a king or smth like vector
 
Nov 12, 2019 12:45 AM

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everyone commenting on the episode and here i am, every time i hear the ending i get goosebumps XD
 
Nov 12, 2019 6:25 AM

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What happened to her eyepatch?
 
Nov 12, 2019 9:03 AM

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The season is good so far, unfortunately this being SAO, i'm just waiting to see how they are going to fuck it up in the end :(
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably.

 
Nov 12, 2019 9:05 AM

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What happened to her eyepatch?



MAGIC!

srsly, magic happened, she healed it in the final of the last season.
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably.

 
Nov 12, 2019 11:16 AM

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God I love ALICE! When the jealousy was shown after Fanatio wanted to see Kirito. So good. Her character development just keeps increasing. And it helps when she was confused as to what Kirito is to her. I think she's starting to understand now.

Man I really wish the other characters wouldn't enter the series but we'll probably see Asuna (unfortunately) in the next two episodes or so.

Kirito will wake up eventually and save Alice I hope.
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Nov 12, 2019 11:34 AM

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Is it just me or Lipia Zancale (the girl who died last episode when trying to kill the main bad guy) looks lke Fanatio ? I thought they were the same person until I put them side by side..
 
Nov 13, 2019 3:36 AM

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And so, the Final Load Test begins! They were able to portray the difference between the Sheer sizes of the two army, nice work, looks like it's going to be a massacre. I wonder how many Integrity Knights will die. Anyway, I can't wait for the next one, as always, this episode ends with a cliffhanger.
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Nov 13, 2019 2:58 PM

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Great episode, final load test begins. Like the ED song accompanied in the scene at last part. To the next week


 
Nov 14, 2019 6:58 AM

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The Final Load Test commences, with the outside force underwhelming against the Dark Territory.

Kirito is still comatose, but part of his will still protects Alice like the norm. He's isn't so much of an liability as the former Integrity Knight Commander Bernoculi made it out to be.

Didn't expect to see the trainees Tiese and Ronie at the grounds again, but the reality must've hit them super hard. It was just simply devastating after such a time that has passed. But as Kirito has showed Alice, she does the same to both of them.

Integrity Knight Vice Commander Fanatio is also back, but more feminine. Seems like she also harbours love for Kirito...yikes...???

But getting back into the action, it's gonna be a difficult task to oppress the forces of the Dark Territory if the Integrity Knights don't plan well. IT'S ALL-IN, DO OR DIE.

The Wall of Separation a.k.a. the Final Load Test is torn down...time for one of the biggest battles in the series YET! So hyped for next episode!
 
Nov 14, 2019 7:38 AM
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Am really happy with how this season turned out it's clearly one of the best this fall Alice is already one of my best sao character but asuna is they real deal can't wait till she make this big with her alicization appearance
 
Nov 15, 2019 12:09 PM

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Am I the only person who thinks the soul sucking thing is obviously a form of sexual fetish. I mean if his arousal is dependent on, or is responsive to the act of assaulting an unconsenting person which he did and he is then IT IS a sexual assault fetish because he gains arousal only when he forcefully or without consent takes the soul of the victim. People get off to being wiped or sucking someone's foot and some get off to sucking souls apparently. Also isn't it weird how so far it has only been women souls he has forcefully taken and enjoyed or wants to take? I mean if it isn't sexual then I'm reading the wrong LN. This author has a history of showing sexual assault in his work and only took out the most graphic one which was actually rape from the web novel.
 
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Am I the only person who thinks the soul sucking thing is obviously a form of sexual fetish. I mean if his arousal is dependent on, or is responsive to the act of assaulting an unconsenting person which he did and he is then IT IS a sexual assault fetish because he gains arousal only when he forcefully or without consent takes the soul of the victim. People get off to being wiped or sucking someone's foot and some get off to sucking souls apparently. Also isn't it weird how so far it has only been women souls he has forcefully taken and enjoyed or wants to take? I mean if it isn't sexual then I'm reading the wrong LN. This author has a history of showing sexual assault in his work and only took out the most graphic one which was actually rape from the web novel.
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Nov 15, 2019 1:37 PM

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The Final Load Test commences, with the outside force underwhelming against the Dark Territory.

Kirito is still comatose, but part of his will still protects Alice like the norm. He's isn't so much of an liability as the former Integrity Knight Commander Bernoculi made it out to be.

Didn't expect to see the trainees Tiese and Ronie at the grounds again, but the reality must've hit them super hard. It was just simply devastating after such a time that has passed. But as Kirito has showed Alice, she does the same to both of them.

Integrity Knight Vice Commander Fanatio is also back, but more feminine. Seems like she also harbours love for Kirito...yikes...???

But getting back into the action, it's gonna be a difficult task to oppress the forces of the Dark Territory if the Integrity Knights don't plan well. IT'S ALL-IN, DO OR DIE.

The Wall of Separation a.k.a. the Final Load Test is torn down...time for one of the biggest battles in the series YET! So hyped for next episode!
nope, she just wanted to thank kirito and tease him.
 
Nov 15, 2019 1:42 PM

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Is it just me or Lipia Zancale (the girl who died last episode when trying to kill the main bad guy) looks lke Fanatio ? I thought they were the same person until I put them side by side..
even their position (vice commander) and love interest are same (their commander)

i called lipia "the dark fanatio" lol
 
Nov 15, 2019 9:12 PM
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First episode of the season that I disliked overall. It was trash imo. I’ll summarize my main complaints.

1. Alice having feelings for Kirito - By far the worst offender. Could we not have one girl who didn’t want to suck his dick? Come on. Their friendship was compelling. Trash writing. This was a huge issue throughout all of SAO.

2. Kirito/Eugeo’s pages - They are awful characters who only exist to suck their masters dicks metaphorically, literally pointless. Maybe if they were made interesting and not been made to be victims for the plot I’d care. The episode wasted like 5 minutes on these girls sobbing. These characters add nothing, never should’ve existed.

3. KIRITO BLOCKED AN ATTACK WITH WILLPOWER ALONE?!?! - Oh my god, really? Kirito is so OP that he can deflect attacks when comatose? What the actual fuck? Why? Why did this need to happen? It wasn’t cool, it was bullshit.

4. Kirito is at the battlefield - despite Alice saying Kirito needed protection, he’s at the damn battlefield. Why you ask? Because the Integrity knight commander “has a feeling” a comatose man will win them the battle. Complete bullshit. The only reason he’s there is because the plot necessitates it. The emperor is going to be too strong for the Integrity Knights and Kirito will snap out of his coma magically at the perfect time and save the day as always.

5. Pacing - the entire war prep should have been a half episode, not a full one. The episode was even more boring and pointless as a result. Nothing notable actually happened.

7. Fanatio - Fanatio owing everything to Kirito and her gender insecurity arc were awful. Not interesting or compelling. As usual Kirito solves every girls problem and they fall in love with him.
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Nov 15, 2019 9:23 PM
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Show the daily lives of the citizens, the panic in their "government", the rallying of volunteers to join the ranks (many of which have never even fought before), the preparations at the wall, the inner deliberations of the enemy side as they form ranks, etc.



The episode would be way more interesting if it was written that way. Instead, this build up felt more like they were just postponing the start of the war
100% agree, if done right that would’ve been more interesting. I think it should’ve been only a half episode, most of what happened was pointless and just delayed the action.
 
Nov 21, 2019 4:29 PM

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I was overwhelmed by feels this time, and where is Asuna hope she can turn the tables on them dark people.
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Nov 26, 2019 8:50 AM

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Death flags popping out all over the place :(

Shit is gonna get real next episode lol.
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Dec 12, 2019 8:25 AM

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Its a nice build for the battle next episode.

It was about time the two cute kouhais know the sad and tragic truth about Kirito and Eugeo. It'll take some time or episodes before Asuna appears.
 
Dec 16, 2019 11:40 AM

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This battle reminds me of WPVP as alliance vs horde in WoW, always outnumbered as hell
 
Dec 16, 2019 12:54 PM

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First episode of the season that I disliked overall. It was trash imo. I’ll summarize my main complaints.

1. Alice having feelings for Kirito - By far the worst offender. Could we not have one girl who didn’t want to suck his dick? Come on. Their friendship was compelling. Trash writing. This was a huge issue throughout all of SAO.

2. Kirito/Eugeo’s pages - They are awful characters who only exist to suck their masters dicks metaphorically, literally pointless. Maybe if they were made interesting and not been made to be victims for the plot I’d care. The episode wasted like 5 minutes on these girls sobbing. These characters add nothing, never should’ve existed.

3. KIRITO BLOCKED AN ATTACK WITH WILLPOWER ALONE?!?! - Oh my god, really? Kirito is so OP that he can deflect attacks when comatose? What the actual fuck? Why? Why did this need to happen? It wasn’t cool, it was bullshit.

4. Kirito is at the battlefield - despite Alice saying Kirito needed protection, he’s at the damn battlefield. Why you ask? Because the Integrity knight commander “has a feeling” a comatose man will win them the battle. Complete bullshit. The only reason he’s there is because the plot necessitates it. The emperor is going to be too strong for the Integrity Knights and Kirito will snap out of his coma magically at the perfect time and save the day as always.

5. Pacing - the entire war prep should have been a half episode, not a full one. The episode was even more boring and pointless as a result. Nothing notable actually happened.

7. Fanatio - Fanatio owing everything to Kirito and her gender insecurity arc were awful. Not interesting or compelling. As usual Kirito solves every girls problem and they fall in love with him.


Why do you even still watch this series when you clearly hate it with all of those points? It's impressive how so many of you still watch something that you dislike. You would thought that after three seasons it would become clear that this series isn't for you if those points (which some are completely wrong, like the first, if you ever read the LN and know Alice thoughts, but you didn't so you think she loves him or Fanatio loving Kirito when she's in love for hundred of years with Bercouli) and your absurd hate for the Protagonist of the series that won't go anywhere.
 
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Nemesis16 said:
Uncommon_Sense said:
First episode of the season that I disliked overall. It was trash imo. I’ll summarize my main complaints.

1. Alice having feelings for Kirito - By far the worst offender. Could we not have one girl who didn’t want to suck his dick? Come on. Their friendship was compelling. Trash writing. This was a huge issue throughout all of SAO.

2. Kirito/Eugeo’s pages - They are awful characters who only exist to suck their masters dicks metaphorically, literally pointless. Maybe if they were made interesting and not been made to be victims for the plot I’d care. The episode wasted like 5 minutes on these girls sobbing. These characters add nothing, never should’ve existed.

3. KIRITO BLOCKED AN ATTACK WITH WILLPOWER ALONE?!?! - Oh my god, really? Kirito is so OP that he can deflect attacks when comatose? What the actual fuck? Why? Why did this need to happen? It wasn’t cool, it was bullshit.

4. Kirito is at the battlefield - despite Alice saying Kirito needed protection, he’s at the damn battlefield. Why you ask? Because the Integrity knight commander “has a feeling” a comatose man will win them the battle. Complete bullshit. The only reason he’s there is because the plot necessitates it. The emperor is going to be too strong for the Integrity Knights and Kirito will snap out of his coma magically at the perfect time and save the day as always.

5. Pacing - the entire war prep should have been a half episode, not a full one. The episode was even more boring and pointless as a result. Nothing notable actually happened.

7. Fanatio - Fanatio owing everything to Kirito and her gender insecurity arc were awful. Not interesting or compelling. As usual Kirito solves every girls problem and they fall in love with him.


Why do you even still watch this series when you clearly hate it with all of those points? It's impressive how so many of you still watch something that you dislike. You would thought that after three seasons it would become clear that this series isn't for you if those points (which some are completely wrong, like the first, if you ever read the LN and know Alice thoughts, but you didn't so you think she loves him or Fanatio loving Kirito when she's in love for hundred of years with Bercouli) and your absurd hate for the Protagonist of the series that won't go anywhere.


You’re making a few assumptions about me here. I don’t exactly hate SAO. In fact, years ago when it started I loved it. Over the years I’ve come to realize that it’s got a lot of flaws, but I still have enough interest to see it through. I do still enjoy it. I also said it was the first episode of the season that I didn’t like. There’s also a part of me that likes to make fun of the show with my friends, it’s fun to meme SAO. The concept of Kirito deflecting something while in a coma is hilarious whether you love or hate the show imo.

I don’t have an interest in the LN. If there’s some added detail only in the LN they should’ve put it in the anime, that excuse doesn’t work. All I know is that Alice almost tried to kiss him, right? If she has feelings for him at all then I dislike that scene. Fanatio and Alice were literally jealously fighting for Kirito’s attention at one point. Even if they don’t have feelings for him, that trope is overused in SAO. Fanatio’s gender insecurity felt too forced and trivial. Have you ever noticed that every notable female that Kirito encounters comes with some kind of emotional baggage, and Kirito always ends up magically solving all of their problems? Fanatio could have just been a strong female knight, but because she’s female the author wanted to give her an issue that Kirito could solve, it’s kind of ridiculous.
 
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Battle of Helm's Deep coming up huh. Time to shred all those grunts and cannon fodder. Kirito rocking the harem and overpowered stats even while he's catatonic. Yes, Alice kiss! Alice best girl at the moment

 
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