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| The show becomes quite cool at this point. Yeah it might seem flat to give every major character some kind of sob story, but in the end its a dramatic show so it's a given. I didn't like how they dealt with the father, a lot of empty threats and if the show took a dark turn the two boys would have been in grave danger. The father of Maki gives me vibes of a former yakuza or someone who is involved with shady people so he could easily dispose someone to harass his son himself. I didn't like how the empty threats of the boys worked out... it felt like plot convenience and there was no indicator that the father had a change of heart or something like you would expect it. In other shows you would get a faint flashback to maybe how the father had an old partner which bonds reminded him of the both boys one. I'm interested for the next episode. All these backstories at once was a bit overwhelming I guess. Sharry_Divinity said: Am i the only one who thought Toma calling maki partner over and over again combined with that hug was Total BL stuff..How can people not see that?.this anime is kinda scaring me with over Chummy behaviour... Hope its not hidden BL... Their friendship is pretty genuine so I wouldn't even mind. |
| We got to see some bromance here! but with respect! that scum father to threaten even Toma? is he dumb or what?!? that last part...way to provoke the softeni team! haha! let's see what entails! 5/5. |
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mecapod said: HereticHunter said: what do you suggest then? endless talking about how he thinks What do you suggest then? keep talking with people who rates this 10/10 isn't going to get me anywhere. I already had this happening to me on Kimetsu no Yaiba's forum where people will shit on you for not liking their favorite anime as much as they do. You got my sarcasm and even answered your own question (nice!) but but BUT .... I'd advise you to be careful when talking about Kimetsu no Yaiba ^^ Hahahaha, yes I know, people are very sensitive about that anime. (Learned it the hard way xP) |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| god damn... i love that ED song + Koreography dance especially when that fatgirl dancing .. |
 that hurts... D: ugh BNHA Anime, Hoshiai and KNY/BNHA chapters... too much feels atm |
 ►"The deeper the darkness the more dazzling the light shines." ◄ ►"As you live you lose reasons and hope. But as you keep on going, you pick up new reasons and hope."◄ ►"If I don’t stand up here… If I don’t reach higher here… When am I ever going to do it?"◄ |
Jin_uzuki said: lol this is getting ridiculous now. Everything is so over-dramatic. The hug between Maki and Touma was nice though. No more hiding. Lol are you surprised that a show tagged "drama" is dramatic? |
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Apricck said: Jin_uzuki said: lol this is getting ridiculous now. Everything is so over-dramatic. The hug between Maki and Touma was nice though. No more hiding. Lol are you surprised that a show tagged "drama" is dramatic? No, I'm surprised it's over-dramatic, can't you read? |
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| All characters are precious! Such a baby. I really hate Maki's father! Toma is so nervous for the practice match, I hope they will win against the cocky guy! |
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Gabisu said: stereotype756 said: It's not a matter of being realistic, but forced, super exaggerated, will tell me that if we make a football team, all members have a sad past? This turns out to be even a lack of creativity, or the lack of a more convincing conflict for an anime to benefit from the usual characterization that gradually fits, look Run with the Wind, all character conflicts are face to face without appealing to a tragic past, At least 2-3 characters have a past that has affected the present, and done in a mature way, without having to resort to pure shock factor or a scene that the author himself asks you to feel sorry for the character.I guess what @Ventus_S wants to express is that there is the posibility that this thing might happen. This kind of things is not uncommon, ridiculous or over-dramatic. They hide in the dark corners of society and human mind without being made known to the public. I hope more and more individuals perceive the scene as well as other similar scenes as a possibility instead of confusing rational action with action that is possible to happen or using personal perception to judge what is impossible or ridiculous, unless a scene is actually ridiculous. For example, touma stabs the man with a knife as soon as he opens door. When I was young, I actually said 'I'll kill you' to the abusive parent while we fought several times. Among these incidents, I thought of I was really going to kill 'YOU' at least twice, though these thought only last a few seconds. Is threatening the abuser better? No. But if emotion takes control of body, it's meaningless to talk which way is better or logical, I just DON'T CARE. consequnces? hasty decisions? Fxxk it. Especially I'm short-tempered at home. The thought of calling cops never occurs in my head as far as I can remember. Schools don't teach kids what they should do when they are abused, maybe I subconsciously considered cops were useless(they are actually useless), maybe I subconsciously was afraid of the uncertainty of calling cops, maybe I got accustomed to this kind of life. Involving so many factors, calling cops isn't an easy thing to do. I think the 'don't remember' excuse is out of place. After I binged on Chihayafuru series, I forgot some of plot and details until I rewatched it. As for this anime, in my opinion, its pace is fine and more infos in an episode compared to easy-to-comsume animes. I don't understand why some people make such a fuss about 'every member has a tragic backstory'. Even if this anime gives a realistic vibe, it doesn't necessary to be realistic. Besides, we have seen the family of two members are ordinary. Why are you acting like every single one of them has a tragic past when literally only two has ever experienced anything remotely tragic? I swear shock factor has almost become a buzzword now. You're acting like abuse or anything dark should never be incorporated in a piece of work because its "edgy" and asking for the viewers to feel sorry for the character. |
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Jin_uzuki said: No, I'm surprised it's over-dramatic, can't you read? If it wasn't at least this dramatic, it wouldn't be classified as a drama. |
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Apricck said: Jin_uzuki said: No, I'm surprised it's over-dramatic, can't you read? If it wasn't at least this dramatic, it wouldn't be classified as a drama. No, it would be still classified as drama. Unless you think Mari-Okada-tier stuff is the only type of drama. |
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Sharry_Divinity said: Am i the only one who thought Toma calling maki partner over and over again combined with that hug was Total BL stuff..How can people not see that?.this anime is kinda scaring me with over Chummy behaviour... Hope its not hidden BL... I can't believe studios just make these decisions without a single concern for the feelings of their most fragile viewer demographic..  |
| Not really a good episode, honestly. The succession of scenes was a bit messy with the idea of developing 4 plot lines in only 24 minutes. The brief glimpse of Kaori's situation at home felt out of place, especially with the humorous tone they tried to convey and Rintarou's backstory felt out of nowhere as well. I won't say they are forced but I think it would have been better for them to be introduced in another episode. On the other hand, Maki telling Toma the truth was a good first step but calling the police to ambush his father would have been a better idea if you ask me. Them saying they will kill Maki's father sounded more ridiculous than anything to me but well. What's done, it's done so after telling him his name, I wonder how things will unfold for Toma from now on. By the way, it also bothers me that neither the police nor the restrictive order was even mentioned this time. I wonder why tho... I mean, I would like to think police/justice in Japan is not as useless as the one in my country... |
| Backstories vs. characterization. This is the aura I got so far from everyone's debate about how this episode made or break the expectations about the realism of family conflict. With that said, this episode HAS A LOT to sink into. Toma is aware of Maki's family problems, but he probably didn't think that it could be worse than what he went through his entire life, even with Maki trying to account for his estranged mom having to be FORCED to provide for the divorced dad. But Toma being Toma, he understood how bad it was, and lent him a racket anyways. With the money prepared in Toma's (not Maki's) hands, the confrontation is just as scary as a horror show. "Can't they just settle the law already!?" is my thought process with not having authority to finish this once and for all (but if it did, the story isn't quite complete). And Maki's nightmare may have just continued, but with Toma, he is one step closer to confidante. Now, the 2nd part with the rich girl, student council president Kinuyo "Kaori" Kasuga. A typical brawl between parents? More like trying to be funny as is with conflict about the upbringing of kids in the parents' POV. Rintaro is the one character that absolutely CANNOT be dismissed. Despite being vice-prez in the soft tennis club, I feel that EXPECTATION is the game of Rintaro's (not real) family, he too like Maki, was abandoned in a somewhat similar fashion, only except that he's adopted. Trying hard to gain approval, only to be shunned aside. Mitsue's notion drifting in the team like a cloud, still has no idea what's her shtick. The friendly match between the amateur and champion schools is starting...can't wait for it! And...challenge accepted? The head honcho is definitely not a wimp though... |
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| I can't believe this cute looking anime is giving me so much feels. Why is this show so underrated dammit. I freakin hate thw father |
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KANLen09 said: Backstories vs. characterization. This is the aura I got so far from everyone's debate about how this episode made or break the expectations about the realism of family conflict. With that said, this episode HAS A LOT to sink into. Toma is aware of Maki's family problems, but he probably didn't think that it could be worse than what he went through his entire life, even with Maki trying to account for his estranged mom having to be FORCED to provide for the divorced dad. But Toma being Toma, he understood how bad it was, and lent him a racket anyways. With the money prepared in Toma's (not Maki's) hands, the confrontation is just as scary as a horror show. "Can't they just settle the law already!?" is my thought process with not having authority to finish this once and for all (but if it did, the story isn't quite complete). And Maki's nightmare may have just continued, but with Toma, he is one step closer to confidante. Now, the 2nd part with the rich girl, student council president Kinuyo "Kaori" Kasuga. A typical brawl between parents? More like trying to be funny as is with conflict about the upbringing of kids in the parents' POV. Rintaro is the one character that absolutely CANNOT be dismissed. Despite being vice-prez in the soft tennis club, I feel that EXPECTATION is the game of Rintaro's (not real) family, he too like Maki, was abandoned in a somewhat similar fashion, only except that he's adopted. Trying hard to gain approval, only to be shunned aside. Mitsue's notion drifting in the team like a cloud, still has no idea what's her shtick. The friendly match between the amateur and champion schools is starting...can't wait for it! And...challenge accepted? The head honcho is definitely not a wimp though... Seriously everyone bring up the authority/ law to resolve the issue. Didn't you think Maki's mom didn't already do that? They're waiting for protection order but it hasn't been issued yet, meaning his mom has called the police for quite awhile but the authority can't do anything due to Japan law or something. Maki's mom left money to PROTECT Maki because if she didn't , his dad might even beat up Maki more seriously/ severely. I was originally thinking why not call police in episode 1, but as all the setting revealed in episode 5, it shows that they ALREADY DID CALL the police for awhile, but due to Japan law and regulation his dad can still do what he wants, even pursuing their address. Stop using American laws and society norm to judge why x character didn't do y. This is what I've seen from Mal users here again and again, replying the same thing of calling the police, which Maki's mom already did for awhile. |
Ventus_S said: KANLen09 said: Backstories vs. characterization. This is the aura I got so far from everyone's debate about how this episode made or break the expectations about the realism of family conflict. With that said, this episode HAS A LOT to sink into. Toma is aware of Maki's family problems, but he probably didn't think that it could be worse than what he went through his entire life, even with Maki trying to account for his estranged mom having to be FORCED to provide for the divorced dad. But Toma being Toma, he understood how bad it was, and lent him a racket anyways. With the money prepared in Toma's (not Maki's) hands, the confrontation is just as scary as a horror show. "Can't they just settle the law already!?" is my thought process with not having authority to finish this once and for all (but if it did, the story isn't quite complete). And Maki's nightmare may have just continued, but with Toma, he is one step closer to confidante. Now, the 2nd part with the rich girl, student council president Kinuyo "Kaori" Kasuga. A typical brawl between parents? More like trying to be funny as is with conflict about the upbringing of kids in the parents' POV. Rintaro is the one character that absolutely CANNOT be dismissed. Despite being vice-prez in the soft tennis club, I feel that EXPECTATION is the game of Rintaro's (not real) family, he too like Maki, was abandoned in a somewhat similar fashion, only except that he's adopted. Trying hard to gain approval, only to be shunned aside. Mitsue's notion drifting in the team like a cloud, still has no idea what's her shtick. The friendly match between the amateur and champion schools is starting...can't wait for it! And...challenge accepted? The head honcho is definitely not a wimp though... Seriously everyone bring up the authority/ law to resolve the issue. Didn't you think Maki's mom didn't already do that? They're waiting for protection order but it hasn't been issued yet, meaning his mom has called the police for quite awhile but the authority can't do anything due to Japan law or something. Maki's mom left money to PROTECT Maki because if she didn't , his dad might even beat up Maki more seriously/ severely. I was originally thinking why not call police in episode 1, but as all the setting revealed in episode 5, it shows that they ALREADY DID CALL the police for awhile, but due to Japan law and regulation his dad can still do what he wants, even pursuing their address. Stop using American laws and society norm to judge why x character didn't do y. This is what I've seen from Mal users here again and again, replying the same thing of calling the police, which Maki's mom already did for awhile. Uh duh, didn't you read the 1st paragraph? That's what I've been trying to say in a sea of conflict between the different laws. Not trying to be bias here, but obviously Western and Eastern laws are different. YES, Maki's mom has been trying to contact the police (like you said) for quite the while, but in Japan things are literally quite culture-shocking when it comes to authority and law, UNLIKE the Western world where everything can be resolved with weapons. This is where the not-so-clear disparity truly is noteworthy. Others called this out, it's their POV. You can do nothing but argue about it and make it into a cat-mouse chase. |
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| I was quite surprised that Maki actually went ahead and told Touma of his situation. The scene with Touma standing up for Maki to his father and then Maki standing upto his Dad was awesome. It seems like Maki's Dad was always the way he is now, then why did his Mom like him and even marry him for that matter? Interesting, I did not expect 'Kaori' to have so much detail to her character. |
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| I really liked this episode and there was so much juicy content but what I felt like was that I’m starting to feel like everything is being paced like way to fast. I want more emotionally investment into characters for example the Vice President like that adoption story came out of nowhere lol. I can’t be the only one that feels a bit overwhelmed by all the information come at them. |
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| Yeah, this ep just furthers my belief this should be 2 cours. It was pretty disjointed with everything they shoved in. |
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| toma's really just maki's sugar daddy at this point |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| I like the mix of drama and sports / slice of life here, but I really hope not everyone has something as difficult as domestic abuse & adoption for their backstory |
| The pacing is over the place again, 3 different characters stories in just one episode. And Touma should call an adult not putting himself in danger just to face a violent person. 2/5 |
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| Episode 5 - complete - 8/10 |
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| Maki told Touma about his abusive father, and Touma threatened him, but while Maki is glad, we haven't seen the last of Maki's dad. They're about to play against that other school, and it looks like one member from that school is trying to piss them off. Will they do any good against them? |
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| Nice to see them having bro moments, like Touma helping Maki. Also kind of interesting to see all the parents problems so far ranging from just wondering if they can ever live up to their expectations to arguing to their parents to parents who just deserve to go to hell |
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| I have a feeling that this anime is gonna have a tragic ending. For some reason. |
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