Dr. Stone Episode 19 Discussion

MonkeyDHunter said:
Meh episode. Honestly, I find this arc is weak thus far. I think this show really stands out more when it solely focuses on slice of life moments and inventions rather than war and action scenes.

Ashhk said:
Wow he wants to make a smartphone now, that's really interesting.
And I don't know if it's me but art seemed to be rushed in this episode.

Pakumen- said:
Tsukasa basically hates boomers with a passion and he is putting a whole utopia/own culture for it. Gotta love the dedication lmao.

But in a more serious way, I can´t take his ideas. All of his plans and hatred seems plain stupid for me. It doent´s seem like he understand society at all and is willing to force people into living a Neo-Nature-Hippie life at the cost of progress in a way. I kinda like the no nature harm, but he needs to understand that (as Senku said) nature is not humanity friendly, so either he does something about it, or he will get devoured by his own belief.

Again, every time the bad guys shows I feel the series drops a lot of points. If this was just a SoL about Senku making shit and interacting with people it would be better.

Nainu_ said:
> A cell phone? Wow. Good luck though. Cannot wait for the final outcome. With 6 episodes remaining.

DirectorK said:

The problem with chemical warfare though is that it's unpredictable, not to mention immoral. Whatever chemicals you use to effect your enemies can essentially effect you as well, not the mention the damage it could cause to the environment. That's why most nations wouldn't use it even out of desperation.

If it were me, I would give Tsukasa the Vietnam War treatment. Being the youngest son of a Vietnam War veteran and having spoken with many other veterans, the one thing US soldiers feared more than the enemy when patrolling the jungles it was booby traps. If there was one thing you could praise the Vietcong for it was their booby traps and how creative they got with them.

Going with this plan, I would first abandon the village by splitting the people into two groups. The first group will be women, children, and the elderly while the second will be the fighters. The first group crosses the river with canoes and taken to safety while I take the second group and create a diversion by travelling on foot, making Tsukasa believe that we're running since he knows facing him head on even with technology would be suicide. Then, once he and his army start following us we would then go into the forest and start setting up as many booby traps as possible.

The key to this plan isn't just to dwindle down their numbers, it's to break their morale. Right now Tsukasa's army is completely confident that they'll have an easy victory on their hands, but once they start losing men and seeing them die in horrible ways it will slowly start to eat away effect their confidence. Now true, we'll still have to deal with Hyoga and other formidable fighters, but that's what our fighters are for. In addition to using booby traps, I would also use to guerrilla tactics to pick off anyone who strayed too far from the army while making sure they don't obtain any food or water.

From what I've so far, Tsuaksa's one fatal weakness is inexperience. We know that he was in training to become a professional boxer so he some idea on strategy, but he's never put it to good use. And honestly has no reason to since they're now living in the stone age. He believes that brute strength in this world will easily win. Well, once he starts losing men and morale starts to drop, his army will eventually start turning against and eventually they'll turn against him. He made them a bunch of promises but in their minds he only led them to disaster. Then, once things finally boil over, whatever's left of the army will either run, surrender, or maybe kill themselves of out of shame and Tsukasa will only go down with them.

In the end, my group wins with little to no casualties. Brutal yes, but if you want to beat a superior force with limited technology that's the way I would do it.

nightcrawlercyp said:
Booby traps are not a bad idea, but they take a long time to set up and also you need to know where they are so you do not fall prey to them If they started putting booby traps years ago it would have worked.
Not bad but it takes more time tan you see in movies. If you do not believe see how long it takes you to build just one .

Guerilla tactics may work, but how about the scorched land tactic? Poison every water source near to the village of the enemy , and the set a fire around it.

Anther tactics they could use if they had more people would be creating a wall around the enemy camp like the romans did to the gals. there are many strategies, but with limited resources two ways radios and well placed speakers is their best bet.

DirectorK said:

The problem with chemical warfare though is that it's unpredictable, not to mention immoral. Whatever chemicals you use to effect your enemies can essentially effect you as well, not the mention the damage it could cause to the environment. That's why most nations wouldn't use it even out of desperation.

RobertBobert said:
So, is Tsukasa actually a millenial on steroids? His whole obsessive war with adults, naive anti-capitalism and speeches about nature, definitely remind me of something.

Hegar said:


It's more like they needed someone who was the antithesis to the scientific approach. He was made to fit that.

Of course, as I'm not the first to point out, in his approach the one who is the strongest is conveniently on top, just like what he complained about. There is no democracy there. And no protection through the law, like there was in the old society.

Maybe Tsukasa truly will rule as an enlightened despot. But after him, only the despot part remains.

Ah, it goes up and down with dictatorships. and dictatorships work better the smaller they are, so that the ruler has to be in close contact with the ruled. There is a big difference between a tribal chief and someone who rules from afar. The tribal chief may in theory be a dictator but rules with the consent of the tribe.

Still. There'd be plenty of tribal chiefs and plenty of wars. Thinking of "tribes", I remember the story of the Indians in what is now the north-eastern U.S. - the reason the area had so few people was the immense genocidal war that had taken place right before Europeans arrived, with one tribe spreading out to massacre others. And this wasn't the first time.

Tsukasa is simply setting up this endless process for a few thousand years, while science slowly advances.

I think in reality anyone would understand that. But again, they needed a leader who was anti-science, no matter if it's unrealistic.

Hegar said:
Okay, Senku - why don't you make crossbows?

Yes, one crossbow bolt was unable to take out Tsukasa. But make two dozen of them to defeat his army, or at least make them run. It seems like the obvious weapon to make. As long as you have the knowledge, which Senku does.

RyuiZaya said:
When that pink-haired girl was appeared. I was like ‘wow, all girls in this anime look the same, just different hair style and color’

My reaction when Senkuu said he’s gonna make phone was exactly same as Gen’s reaction. Phone is out of my expectation really.

But at least this anime didn’t turn to be a real war of gun/sword/blood/fighting. And Senkuu keeps using his brain for fighting, I’m glad.

DirectorK said:

Well, if you need to buy time, the best way to do that is to slow down Tsukasa's army by blocking and cutting off all the roads and trails leading to the village. This would force Tsukasa to search for and take an longer route. With that, you might be able to buy a few days to a week to get the civilians safe and far away while you set up your booby traps.


I already mentioned about making sure they don't obtain any food or water. Using fire would seem effective but I wouldn't do it in dense forest area because once gets out of control it won't stop until there's nothing left to burn.


A nice idea, but like you said not enough man power and it would take too long with the technology they have. Plus, there's no way you would be able to keep that secret without the enemy noticing. A better idea would be to lead them into a canyon and then use explosives to trap them inside while cutting off any escape route.

DirectorK said:

Crossbows, even though they are more powerful, take too long to reload, making Senku and his army vulnerable to being overrun. In addition, they don't have enough men to fire an effective volley. And if they did manage to route Tsukasa's army on their first attempt it wouldn't take them long to construct wooden tower shields to protect themselves, which would then make the crossbows virtually useless.

JiangHaoyi1979 said:
has anybody notices something in Tsukasa's village, like people whom somehow didn't experience any form of petification , cu'z it looks like that Fire Bitch Homura and that Blond bitch in red don't look like they've been through it ?????????????????

el3mel said:
The last 2 episodes were back to pretty much everything I hated about the show in its earlier episodes, from the over the top scene and ridiculous logic to end encounters.

I hope with that phone stuff the series will return to what it were before these last 2 episodes.

The show is better when focusing on science rather than these ridiculous encounters and fights.

Klad said:
Terrible all around. The geographical positions of the characters during the battle didn't even make sense too. Like, Senku and the main girl were in the village a moment ago, and suddenly they appear next to Suika to save her? Also why would Hyoga and his crew get baited and run to catch Suika? So bad.

cellphones? Really? Lol

BlindSniper said:
is this show even trying to make sense anymore?

or is it just senku laughing cockily 50 times an episode, saying his catch phrase, and everybody saying science every 30 seconds?

and why is the budget dropping each episode? this is essentially stills now

Dmndplatinum said:







Boy, I would imagine you would hate eyeshield 21