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I just found out that an animation studio from India made their own anime with anime-style art. It is called Karmachakra : http://www.animationxpress.com/index.php/latest-news/exclusive-studio-durga-indias-first-anime-studio-creates-a-stir-within-the-indian-anime-community-with-the-trailer-of-karmachakra The art style seems pretty OK, aiming for a more adult mature theme than a cute Moe art style. What are your thoughts. Should new animation companies in the West make their own hand-drawn anime too with anime-style art ?
I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story.

We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine.
 
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I wish people would stop calling anime-style cartoons "anime". I guess it's because there isn't a collection of variants comparable to what exists for manga (manhwa, manfra, etc). But why not create new terms then?

Here for example anindie? and for US anime style cartoons, I propose the term amerie.
 
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oh wait what is this? want to promo? yeah...
 
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The art and animation quality might not be top notch, but it is their first work done, and if they earn a lot of sales their next work might get more budget with better animation. Like for example, RWBY from the US that has super-cool action scenes.
I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story.

We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine.
 
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Never heard about this.... I might want to watch something like this. Was wondering a while ago if Bangladesh would allow for anime-inspired cartoons (considering the country's very Islamic and would most likely disapprove of 80% of what anime has to offer, I doubt it'd happen but still...).

The article lists the show will be in Bengali... I'm pretty sure it'll just be India's version of Bengali and not the Bengali I'm used to though (India's Bengali and Bangladesh's Bengali are apparently somewhat different from each other)... if it is the Bengali that I can understand, that'd be great.

Dunno how I'd be able to watch this though... At least the poster looks nice

 
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I will admit it looks pretty cool. BUt anime is animation from Japan only, so this isnt actually an "anime". It might be an anime inspired cartoon, sure, but its not actually an anime.
 
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I've heard of it too and its an Indian cartoon to be precise
animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime
 
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The art style reminds me of that project one of the anitubers spent time funding. I'm not gonna debate the term cause honestly I don't care enough if its "anime" or not. The trailer looks good though.
 
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Okay I know it's been quite a while since this thread was posted or when this video came out...
But wow I'm a little impressed by this trailer! The animation quality isn't like super top-tier KyoAni level or something, but it's definitely a great start for a first project made by a brand new studio!



It's also great that I could actually understand some of the Bengali they were saying without the subtitles (these subs are actually decently translated), I hope I can improve my shamefully small Bengali from this haha...
(Before anyone says that what I'm saying here is like being a weeb who's super obsessed about learning Japanese just so they can watch anime without subs, I'm a Bengali-American who somehow learned fluent English but barely anything other than the basics and some slang in Bengali. Can't read Bengali either...)

Hopefully there's a way to legally watch this somewhere sometime soon.
 
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EratiK said:
I wish people would stop calling anime-style cartoons "anime".


Mood.

Seeing "THE FIRST INDIA ANIME" in that trailer just makes me roll my eyes. No, guys. You're simply imitating it, not creating it.

Get some Japanese staff on this project and then we'll talk. xD



 
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I've heard of it too and its an Indian cartoon to be precise
animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime


What about China and Korea (South Korea or North Korea, but presumably South Korea)? If not, why do MAL archivists include them in the database on this website?
 
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I see I missed the chance to inb4 people complaining about an alleged misuse of the definition of "anime" on the basis of geographic origin.
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WatchTillTandava said:
MAYOIII said:
I've heard of it too and its an Indian cartoon to be precise
animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime

What about China and Korea (South Korea or North Korea, but presumably South Korea)? If not, why do MAL archivists include them in the database on this website?

That's a very good point, why are those shows included if country of origin is the basis on defining what makes a cartoon "anime"?
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't necessarily classify this new Indian-Bengali show as an anime, but I just wanna know...
 
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Judging by the poster it's better than I would have expected, but I'm with the "don't call it anime crowd", it's like saying something that's inspired by Disney show is a disney show (I know, a bit of an exaggeration but I don't think by much)
 
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Fario-P said:
WatchTillTandava said:

What about China and Korea (South Korea or North Korea, but presumably South Korea)? If not, why do MAL archivists include them in the database on this website?

That's a very good point, why are those shows included if country of origin is the basis on defining what makes a cartoon "anime"?
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't necessarily classify this as anime, but I just wanna know...
The reason is that manhua and manhwa are so commonly read by manga fans that they had to include them and it was reasoned that animations from those countries should be included as well to keep things consistent. India has its own comics, but they're ignored enough by manga fans that any overlap in fanbases would just be coincidence.
 
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MAYOIII said:
I've heard of it too and its an Indian cartoon to be precise
animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime
their are various Korean and Chinese " anime" on mal that suggest that your wrong.
 
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KurtvonZeon said:
MAYOIII said:
I've heard of it too and its an Indian cartoon to be precise
animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime
their are various Korean and Chinese " anime" on mal that suggest that your wrong.


Chinese and Korean shows and comics share a LOT of similarities to Japanese ones, including culture so I think MAL has the attitude of 'eh close enough' when including them. xD

Hell, 'manhuwa' even SOUNDS like 'manga'.



 
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Fario-P said:

That's a very good point, why are those shows included if country of origin is the basis on defining what makes a cartoon "anime"?
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't necessarily classify this as anime, but I just wanna know...
The reason is that manhua and manhwa are so commonly read by manga fans that they had to include them and it was reasoned that animations from those countries should be included as well to keep things consistent. India has its own comics, but they're ignored enough by manga fans that any overlap in fanbases would just be coincidence.
good point here, I would've said asian countries if it wasn't for Indians technically being asians, theres this french... I don't know the french term for manga, that blew me away but if it was animated I wouldn't consider it anime (Dreamland)
 
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Please delete this thread anything that isn't from Japan it's not an anime. Also India has stupid india-made patriotic BS so please refrain from using those words.
 
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It's interesting. But I still think it's not anime but something anime inspired like The Last Airbender. Since that was good, we might have hope from this as well.

Since I'm Indian, it makes me kinda happy. Lol
SAO Progressive needs an anime. It is the real SAO not the rushed original.
 
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good point here, I would've said asian countries if it wasn't for Indians technically being asians, theres this french... I don't know the french term for manga, that blew me away but if it was animated I wouldn't consider it anime (Dreamland)


Then it sounds like it's being confined to just those from East Asian countries, or more specifically even, just northeast Asia (as opposed to Vietnam, Philippines, etc. in the southeast).

 
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That looks really interesting. Would definitely check it out.

Isn't there some word for anime-like cartoons that can't be called anime because they're not Japanese? Seems like a few people go into a conniption fit every time one of these anime-esque things are called anime. Animesque?

Ah. Turns out the word has already been coined.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Animesque
 
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This reminds me of some animated episodes that I have seen YouTube once where the mc was a girl that wore a hijab and and was a superhero.I forgot the name but it would be good if someone knew what it is.
 
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This reminds me of some animated episodes that I have seen YouTube once where the mc was a girl that wore a hijab and and was a superhero.I forgot the name but it would be good if someone knew what it is.

omg i was legit just on the Animesque page on TV Tropes that mentioned the show you're talking about
you're referring to Emara: Emirates Hero, aren't you?
 
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Fario-P said:
Missaliensan said:
This reminds me of some animated episodes that I have seen YouTube once where the mc was a girl that wore a hijab and and was a superhero.I forgot the name but it would be good if someone knew what it is.

omg i was legit just on the Animesque page on TV Tropes that mentioned the show you're talking about
you're referring to Emara: Emirates Hero, aren't you?

Yes,it’s that!Thanks,I knew I had to ask someone or else i would not have remembered. :) I like the art style of this one more than the one shown in the trailer by OP.
 
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Please no. I don't wanna see any religious bullshit into anime. But it's at least better than chhota bheem crap.
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WatchTillTandava said:
Killaclown said:
good point here, I would've said asian countries if it wasn't for Indians technically being asians, theres this french... I don't know the french term for manga, that blew me away but if it was animated I wouldn't consider it anime (Dreamland)


Then it sounds like it's being confined to just those from East Asian countries, or more specifically even, just northeast Asia (as opposed to Vietnam, Philippines, etc. in the southeast).

possibly, just so much influence back and forth probably, hellz I don't know lol, proximity does seem to be a factor though
 
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This would be considered an anime in Japan though , since they consider any type of animation as an anime
 
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Actually that looks pretty good and I will try to watch it, at best legally, when it comes out.

zombie_pegasus said:
Fario-P said:

That's a very good point, why are those shows included if country of origin is the basis on defining what makes a cartoon "anime"?
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't necessarily classify this as anime, but I just wanna know...
The reason is that manhua and manhwa are so commonly read by manga fans that they had to include them and it was reasoned that animations from those countries should be included as well to keep things consistent. India has its own comics, but they're ignored enough by manga fans that any overlap in fanbases would just be coincidence.

Since when is popularity, and being more accepted by more people, an argument? Shouldn't there be, you know, more comprehensable reasons?
 
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Well, at least the name of the title is utter cringe. I don't have high expectations but who knows.
MAL has many chinese and korean entries which are considered anime by default. And if I remember right, I've even seen mongolian and taiwan titles.
So, we can say that term "anime" can be used for just oriental production. As India is a part of Asia, too, I won't be surprised if this movie is added here

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Its good that chinese and korean anime have evolved. So I think its perfectly fine for India anime to start as well. This is actually kind of fun, first we had
american studios trying to do anime, than in the 2010s China and Korea started and have been doing brilliantly and now India.
 
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Well, at least the name of the title is utter cringe. I don't have high expectations but who knows.
MAL has many chinese and korean entries which are considered anime by default. And if I remember right, I've even seen mongolian and taiwan titles.
So, we can say that term "anime" can be used for just oriental production. As India is a part of Asia, too, I won't be surprised if this movie is added here

Actually the title is unique in Hindi/Bengali. One can interpret it along the lines of 'cycle of karma'. In Hindu mythology, 'karma' means your actions reflect your consequences.
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SAO Progressive needs an anime. It is the real SAO not the rushed original.
 
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biswa290701 said:
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Well, at least the name of the title is utter cringe. I don't have high expectations but who knows.
MAL has many chinese and korean entries which are considered anime by default. And if I remember right, I've even seen mongolian and taiwan titles.
So, we can say that term "anime" can be used for just oriental production. As India is a part of Asia, too, I won't be surprised if this movie is added here

Actually the title is unique in Hindi/Bengali. One can interpret it along the lines of 'cycle of karma'. In Hindu mythology, 'karma' means your actions reflect your consequences.

Ah ok then. This title just resembles something weeb. I mean, "karma" and "chakra" are two most popular words used by all those wannabe buddhism, horoscope, vegan and yoga freaks
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Never heard about this.... I might want to watch something like this. Was wondering a while ago if Bangladesh would allow for anime-inspired cartoons (considering the country's very Islamic and would most likely disapprove of 80% of what anime has to offer, I doubt it'd happen but still...).

The article lists the show will be in Bengali... I'm pretty sure it'll just be India's version of Bengali and not the Bengali I'm used to though (India's Bengali and Bangladesh's Bengali are apparently somewhat different from each other)... if it is the Bengali that I can understand, that'd be great.

Dunno how I'd be able to watch this though... At least the poster looks nice


You can speak Bengali? You live in Bangladesh or used to live in Bangladesh or something like that?
 
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EratiK said:
I wish people would stop calling anime-style cartoons "anime".


Seijatachiiii said:
anime is animation from Japan only, so this isnt actually an "anime". It might be an anime inspired cartoon, sure, but its not actually an anime.


MAYOIII said:

animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime


Chiibi said:
EratiK said:
I wish people would stop calling anime-style cartoons "anime".


Mood.

Seeing "THE FIRST INDIA ANIME" in that trailer just makes me roll my eyes. No, guys. You're simply imitating it, not creating it.

Get some Japanese staff on this project and then we'll talk. xD


Lmao, 'anime' is just the Japanese word for 'animation' or 'cartoons'. In Japan, all animated movies/shows are anime (stuff like Shrek, Paranorman or Avatar). It's used by people throughout the world to address Japanese animation because it's way more convenient to call it anime instead of 'Japanese cartoons'.

As for 'Karmachakra', I'm not a fan of the art-style, but they've done a pretty good job compared to 90% of the shit Indian studios create. There's also a Pakistani anime in the works titled 'The Glassworker', by Mano animation studios.
 
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'The Glassworker', by Mano animation studios.
That ones been in the works for ages. Was it 5 years ago that they released a key visual? I remember it being a long ass time ago.
 
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'The Glassworker', by Mano animation studios.
That ones been in the works for ages. Was it 5 years ago that they released a key visual? I remember it being a long ass time ago.

I remember that The Breadwinner was really good.
Not really related to the topic but wanted to add this.

monkeyDberzerk said:
EratiK said:
I wish people would stop calling anime-style cartoons "anime".


Seijatachiiii said:
anime is animation from Japan only, so this isnt actually an "anime". It might be an anime inspired cartoon, sure, but its not actually an anime.


MAYOIII said:

animation from countries other than Japan are not considered anime


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Mood.

Seeing "THE FIRST INDIA ANIME" in that trailer just makes me roll my eyes. No, guys. You're simply imitating it, not creating it.

Get some Japanese staff on this project and then we'll talk. xD


Lmao, 'anime' is just the Japanese word for 'animation' or 'cartoons'. In Japan, all animated movies/shows are anime (stuff like Shrek, Paranorman or Avatar). It's used by people throughout the world to address Japanese animation because it's way more convenient to call it anime instead of 'Japanese cartoons'.

As for 'Karmachakra', I'm not a fan of the art-style, but they've done a pretty good job compared to 90% of the shit Indian studios create. There's also a Pakistani anime in the works titled 'The Glassworker', by Mano animation studios.

Thought the same. People can't stand that Japan is less treated as something special from anime fans today.
 
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Never heard about this.... I might want to watch something like this. Was wondering a while ago if Bangladesh would allow for anime-inspired cartoons (considering the country's very Islamic and would most likely disapprove of 80% of what anime has to offer, I doubt it'd happen but still...).

The article lists the show will be in Bengali... I'm pretty sure it'll just be India's version of Bengali and not the Bengali I'm used to though (India's Bengali and Bangladesh's Bengali are apparently somewhat different from each other)... if it is the Bengali that I can understand, that'd be great.

Dunno how I'd be able to watch this though... At least the poster looks nice

You can speak Bengali? You live in Bangladesh or used to live in Bangladesh or something like that?

I am Bengali-American (with Bangladeshi parents), my Bengali/Bangla knowledge is pretty shit though and I can't read the language at all.
 
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Lmao, 'anime' is just the Japanese word for 'animation' or 'cartoons'.


DUH. I'm aware of that, thanks. But we don't refer to ALL cartoons on MAL (or the whole community) as 'anime' for a specific reason so don't play dumb, okay?



 
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Fario-P said:
trenchantbaka said:

You can speak Bengali? You live in Bangladesh or used to live in Bangladesh or something like that?

I am Bengali-American (with Bangladeshi parents), my Bengali/Bangla knowledge is pretty shit though and I can't read the language at all.

Ooh ok. Was just interested since I'm Bangladeshi. You can ask me some stuff if you want lol.
 
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This reminds me of some animated episodes that I have seen YouTube once where the mc was a girl that wore a hijab and and was a superhero.I forgot the name but it would be good if someone knew what it is.
I guess you already found it, but I was gonna guess Burqa Avenger lol.
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Chiibi said:
monkeyDberzerk said:


Lmao, 'anime' is just the Japanese word for 'animation' or 'cartoons'.


DUH. I'm aware of that, thanks. But we don't refer to ALL cartoons on MAL (or the whole community) as 'anime' for a specific reason so don't play dumb, okay?


I did mention why non-Japanese people only refer to Japanese shows when talking about anime, they do so because it's convenient. But that doesn't mean we get to decide what's anime and what isn't, because it remains a fact that all animation is anime according to the Japanese.
 
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Anime are cartoons made in Japan, cartoons made in india are not anime.




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monkeyDberzerk said:
But that doesn't mean we get to decide what's anime and what isn't, because it remains a fact that all animation is anime according to the Japanese.


Since we are ENGLISH-speakers here, actually we DO get to decide. Go to any definition online; other countries define 'anime' as 'animation from Japan.



 
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