Chihayafuru 3 Episode 3 Discussion

ProofByColor said:
Also I dislike the translators on CR translating roku dan as grade 6. I had to double take and actually listen to the Japanese after reading a grade 6 went on maternity leave...

Hatsuyuki said:
The ending scene of the episode was perfectly set up ! Hyped for Chihaya vs Haruka

KhayalCorp88 said:
I'm only watch this anime for 3 episodes and I'm in love with karuta already.

BitterBones said:
That top-class orator updating his twitter lol.

SIXSIDES said:
It's been a few years since I heard Arata but it sounded like his accent felt more forced than before, or maybe I'm mixing it up with the live action version.

_MushiRock11_ said:
Awesome episode once again!

Chihaya and the Shiranami Society are on fire, oh yeah! Seeing the Coach and the Senior give Taichi a moment of respite and support there was so touching as well! And then Chihaya's dominant play to top it off, great stuff! I want to see Chihaya win this competition or at least proceed to the next stage after beating the former Queen.

Damn, that Queen though. Hearing is a great tool no doubt, lol @ poor Fujisaki's Coach, but being able to match Chihaya's pace is quite something. And she's been out of the game for a few years, boy the next round is going to be crazy! Also, the fact that the Fujisaki's Coach lost all four times to her (much like Shinobu's record to Arata lol) is another big hurdle to digest.

Arata sweeps up yet another high-profile player, meanwhile. Who would've thought his one apparent weakness is the lack of contesting ability though lol.

shanimebib said:
You may want to switch to Inokuma-san (instead of former queen) and Sakurazawa-sensei (instead of Fujisaki's coach) because they become very important in the story! Actually, you can already tell that they will so it's not a spoiler or anything. :P

Also, Arata is above Shinobu in Karuta. So, him beating Yuumin was a given. It was because she kept on contesting the cards that the difference was smaller than what it should have been.

_MushiRock11_ said:


Ah okay, thanks for the heads-up! I’m personally intrigued by both of these characters so I’m looking forward to more of them!

What, seriously? Isn’t the Queen at the highest position tied with the King in terms of recognition? Besides, wasn’t it a blessing of luck (her being ill) which helped him to overcome her solid iron guard so I reckon the times have somewhat changed, no?

shanimebib said:
Not the status or ranking but pure playing of Karuta. Remember that Queen and Meijin titles are not shared by men and women and hence the names. Probably at some point of history, top 3 female players were better than the Meijin of their time. Just a situation for an example.

shanimebib said:
Remember that Arata's Karuta is likenened to Chihayaburu (one dakuten different from the very title of the story) which refers to perfection in motion. He is also considered by a large number of people of the game as the only one who can dethrone Suou. But just because his Karuta is perfection, it doesn't mean he is unbeatable. An example was how he didn't contest the cards and it drained out his energy.

shanimebib said:
Arata also returned to Karuta after a long hiatus when Shinobu caught that cold so he was rusty himself. It would have been otherwise if she hadn't but it won't be an exaggeration to say a Perfect Arata will probably always beat a Perfect Shinobu.

wank said:
one thing i don't miss is taichi behaving like a lil bitch when there's any chance of arata and chihaya interacting

nanimeanswhat said:
Chihaya is against the former queen. She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. I really hope she wins this time, though. One can dream. My dream is seeing Chihaya win the first car. And then maybe even winning the match!

I feel Taichi vs Arata coming, though. (if it doesn't happen in this tournament then I'll be disappointed) I can't wait.

Black_Sheep97 said:

Well chihaya doesnt always win and that formula doesnt happen all the time. This formula didnt happen in the match against the selection for the tornmament against the queen in season 1 and the final match in the team finals. And she has won the first card multiple times against her opponents and she loses alot of important matches and when she does win its never always that formula.
Sorry for the long comment just voicing a disagreement against an opinion i dont believe to be true.

nanimeanswhat said:


When she's facing stronger opponents, she always loses the first card. And we can confidently say that she has sucked in individual tournaments so far. This is actually the first time she has come this far in an individual component (she usually loses in her 2nd or 3rd match max), so I have hope that she might win against this woman. And whether she wins or loses, she always loses the first card against strong opponents, and this woman is damn strong, so she'll lose her first card.

"when she does win its never always that formula."

That's her losing formula though :D

Black_Sheep97 said:

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

nanimeanswhat said:

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

Black_Sheep97 said:
yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

stand said:
lol at Sudo being such an asshole to Rion, poor Rion...

nanimeanswhat said:


Nooo you still didn't get my point lol
I'm talking only about individual tournaments. I've never said losing the first card equals losing the match, but even when she wins she usually loses the first few cards. And that's why everyone says she gets better as the game progresses because the more one-syllable cards are on the field, the better she does. What I wrote is what usually happens in her individual matches, not always, but most of the time.

And please, don't be so serious and offensive all the time, we're discussing anime, not politics. Chill a little. We can have different opinions, that's natural.

Black_Sheep97 said:
I still dont get the formula, if doesn't happen all the time then it isnt a formula, she has won matches even without losing the first few cards in individual tournaments usually against people she has more experience than.

I am being serious but I'm not being offensive I'm just arguing, what you're stating isnt an opinion though but a factual technical statement, you're stating that there is a formula the series follows and adheres too and that isnt an opinion cause it has nothing to do with liking or hating it. It based on evidence the show presents, but you've also adjusted what the actual formula is throughout the discussion, so if you could explicitly state the proper formula and point instances where it's been used than I can understand and agree.

nanimeanswhat said:


Forget it. The point obviously flies over your head and at this point, I've given up explaining. Just read again, I think I've been clear enough. Or don't read. I didn't adjust what I previously said, I just tried to detail things and explain more thoroughly so that you could understand but you're still stuck at the "formula" part. You called it a formula first, I haven't said it's a "factual technical statement" or anything. It's not that deep. We're discussing anime, for god's sake. I said "usually", you know the meaning of that word, mate. Let's not argue further.