| If you've never seen an anime before and watch...i don't know, Nisekoi for instance and try to choose a girl that you think will end up with the main protagonist, you much likely are gonna be mistaken. Why you might ask?! Well, cause once you see a considerable number of anime, and i say anime in general and not only romance cause in other genres there are tons of romance in it too, you'll recognize a pattern, a pattern seen in almost 90% of anime and that's - Who appears first, wins. - This leads me think, why has to go that way? Why she has to always win by the end of the story? Why we can't have a "Katanagatari" route in a lot of them? Not saying the blonde girl ended up with Shichika since we don't know for certain but that's a nice ruoute to go with, don't you guys think? Why we can't have some diversity on it? Like, the main girl gets killed, and the hero or whatever he is, doesn't end up with nobody but years later he get married with some random chick that he meets in a fucking jungle or something of that nature. It can be anything, really. Anything that is slightly different, that's what i ask. I don't always the main or the most obvious girl end up with the main dude. That's my complaint in a romance story. Anyway, what do you think about this? Do you want more diversity of it? Anything else? |
I mean as a romance fan I don't give a fuck if its first girl who wins or not She could be first girl or last girl for all I care about. Whats important is that I like the characters and think the pairing makes sense. If that happens I'm totally happy |
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| First girl usually wins but I don't mind it as long as she is best gril |
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| I will say that the endings in romance series is predictable, but I disagree on it being boring. I think that it’s actually better if the “main girl” who is going to end up with the mc is made clear from early on. This way, people know which pairing is the “serious” one, and can focus more on their relationship growth rather than seeing the mc be indecisive and/or oblivious about his love interest. I find watching the development of a couple ( until its closure ) more interesting than betting on which girl will win. Yes, a lot of people find the enjoyment of romance series from guessing which girl the mc is going date, but I think that this is an easy way to spark anger out of the losing team, whereas if the “main girl” is already set from the beginning, everyone will know which specific couple will end up being formed and just enjoy their own personal pairings while still respecting the main series because the “traditional couple” that keeps forming is built on mainstream tastes and qualities that the majority of people will agree with or have neutral feelings about ( not saying that this means there will be no angry fans complaining about how their pairing didn’t cone true ). To explain more clearly, I’m going to use Akatsuki no Yona as an example. It is clear to all of us that Hak will end up with Yona from all the signs and tropes the pairing gives/follows. We all have experienced this time and time before. This pairing is the main focus of the series, and thus all the other love interests are “bonuses” that the audience can enjoy and fantasize about if they want to. Now, if the signs given off by Hak and Yona were also given off by all the other possible pairings, the focus of the story would become messy and the fans would have divided. Not a very pleasant idea, is it? Here, Hak and Yona plays the role of being the mainstream “thing” that everyone can support and enjoy to keep everyone from clashing and dividing. This, however, does not mean that variety isn’t welcomed. Anything that tries to be new and break out of the traditional or old tropes are always interesting to experience. Though this does not mean that the end result will be good, just as you said, Tista said: Like, the main girl gets killed, and the hero or whatever he is, doesn't end up with nobody but years later he get married with some random chick that he meets in a fucking jungle or something of that nature. It is true that this defies traditional romance series and is a very interesting concept but for the main dude to be marrying a girl who he has not have any proper development with will result in the series to be seen as having a rushed and unthought ending. Tl;dr I personally think that it’s better for romance series to be predictable because that causes the least damage, and is the one the majority is able to enjoy. Variety is good too but it shouldn’t be a variety “just because”. |
AllyxandraOct 21, 2019 3:19 AM
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| Since I'm someone who almost never find the first girl to be best I I00% agree. It's so lazy and annoying that I'm losing interest with the entire genre and quint could be the last straw |
| At least we have the rest 10% right ? And as mentioned above, sometimes the point is not about which love interest will be chosen by the protagonist, but more about how the protagonist's feelings improve. This is especially true in series with main character's thinking/monologues are shown (like 90% anime ?). Katanagatari is not really count imo, because it is more about a plot twist in the ending rather than a mere romance whim. If you want the example of how this trope done, you can check TWGOK (Keima won't end up with Elsie). And.. If you really want to play guess who game, you can watch some murder mystery rather than watch a romance. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| You are not talking about romance. You are talking about harem. Normal romance stories don't have that many girls or guys to choose from and its usually just a love triangle or square (is that how its called?). A lot of times the story deals with two people and their relationship and thats it. So this is a conversion about harems specifically. |
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| Never found it boring. Can be frustrating yes, in shows like Just Because or any of Kouji Seo's works, in which the clearly better girl is dismissed for the "main" girl for whatever reason (and I don't mean better imo, the 'main' pairings are usually pretty toxic), but I never found it boring If anything I dislike shows that have unique pairings at the end for the sake of being unique. Like Anthem of the Heart's end pairings completely went against the entire theme of the movie |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| You're not talking about romance anime, you're talking about shitty harem rom-coms. That's a big difference. Nisekoi is garbage and if you watch it for the romance and not just for the waifus then you're a mistake. You never watch rom-coms like that for the romance because they will just bait you for 99% of their runtime while adding more and more girls to the mix without ever developing anything. |
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Allyxandra said: I will say that the endings in romance series is predictable, but I disagree on it being boring. I think that it’s actually better if the “main girl” who is going to end up with the mc is made clear from early on. This way, people know which pairing is the “serious” one, and can focus more on their relationship growth rather than seeing the mc be indecisive and/or oblivious about his love interest. I find watching the development of a couple ( until its closure ) more interesting than betting on which girl will win. THIS. Like I've told oh so many people before; it's not the destination, but the journey that matters. @Pullman; you're wrong; not all of Nisekoi got animated but the manga has an resolved ending and it was damn romantic too. |
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Chiibi said: Allyxandra said: I will say that the endings in romance series is predictable, but I disagree on it being boring. I think that it’s actually better if the “main girl” who is going to end up with the mc is made clear from early on. This way, people know which pairing is the “serious” one, and can focus more on their relationship growth rather than seeing the mc be indecisive and/or oblivious about his love interest. I find watching the development of a couple ( until its closure ) more interesting than betting on which girl will win. THIS. Like I've told oh so many people before; it's not the destination, but the journey that matters. @Pullman; you're wrong; not all of Nisekoi got animated but the manga has an resolved ending and it was damn romantic too. That's why I said 99%. Rom-coms that don't get cancelled usually do resolve the whole thing in the last few chapters, but up to that point there is generally no actual development and they just add more and more girls to the mix. Or sometimes girls and boys, like Ranma 1/2. But yeah, stalling for hundreds of chapters to then force some predictable conclusion in the end does not make a romance anime. A romance anime needs to focus on the relationship for more than just the final stretch. As you said, the journey matters. And the journey for rom-coms is usually a bunch of stalled developments, countless 'near misses' that don't contribute anything, harem shenanigans, fanservice and a lot of comedy that varies wildly in quality depending on the show (for Nisekai it was shit). Just look at some of the most iconic rom-coms of all times, Urusei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2. The reason you watch them is never for the romance, it's for the comedy. That's they their rom-coms, and not romance anime. Romance anime are stuff like Nodame Cantabile or Kimi ni Todoke, that establish a main pair early on and then focus on that. |
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Pullman said: As you said, the journey matters. And the journey for rom-coms is usually a bunch of stalled developments, countless 'near misses' that don't contribute anything, harem shenanigans, fanservice and a lot of comedy that varies wildly in quality depending on the show (for Nisekai it was shit). Nisekoi wasn't shit and it certainly wasn't guilty of the above....or did you not read the manga? It did have a few nonsense chapters...but to accuse it of "rushed development" is a definite lie. |
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| Try Reading Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai Manga. |
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| If you want something that explores the negative side of romance read both DomeKano and Kuzu no Honkai Manga. :) |
Iyya said: Chiibi said: Nisekoi wasn't shit and it certainly wasn't guilty of the above....or did you not read the manga? It did have a few nonsense chapters...but to accuse it of "rushed development" is a definite lie. Correct me if I am wrong but as I remember, It lost its focus since chapter 40sh and only came back to resolve the love triangle in the last few chapters. . I definitely don't agree with that.....though it's been a while since I read it. But it's also a slice of life series so it's FINE to not focus on the romance 24/7. That would get tiresome. Plenty of chapters focused on platonic relationships or ones between families and I think that's great. |
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