| Still haven't ran out of shitty takes on rap, eh? Listen, like I've said before, rap is cool music for cool people and I'm afraid you're not doing too hot on the cool factor. You don't like how every rap song is about pussy, money, weed? Well, that's too damn bad. It's not our fault you ain't 'bout that life. It's okay, I'm sure Hopsin will get out of his little depression and drop an album full of oh so deep and thought provoking songs soon enough, but until then you're gonna have to listen to some actual good rap. You know what? I'll drop some hot fire for you right here, because I'm nice like that haha. You're welcome. |
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| I much prefer mainstream rap about money and chicks over pretentious social issue rap. If I want to listen to diverse opinions on social issues I'll go to NPR, youtube, or check out the casual discussion section of MAL. When listening to music, I just want to feel something. |
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| i don't have that much of an opinion on the topic; i just wanted to hear @AbsurdistOtaku's thoughts do you like soundcloud rappers? i'm not sure if depressive subject matter is the same as... rich subject matter, but what do you think of artists like xxx and lil peep? (not soundcloud based, but similarly, what about brockhampton?) it feels like there's such a clear distinction in quality between artists like kendrick lamar & lil pump, even if they're rapping about the exact same things, there's just weight and quality in the work kendrick puts out(i feel like im taking stupid easy shots with lil pump here) so even if the topic is shallow or simple, when something still has weight & quality it still holds up perfectly fine for me Jokah said: rap is cool music for cool people and I'm afraid you're not doing too hot on the cool factor. (a VERY fun attitude to have. i don't feel you at all but i love the energy) |
BlakexEkalb said: Yep, mainstream rap is complete trash. Absolute garbage. All American rappers are trash, mainstream or not. |
AbsurdistOtaku said: Now that you point it out, you're right: depressing doesn't necessarily mean rich subject matter. The idea of rich subject matter is...difficult to define. I'm not sure about that right now. i feel like soundcloud rap is fun to bring into this just because, a lot of those artists deal with very heavy subject matter(depression, suicide, substance abuse and not in the fun way), but they don't approach it in a serious way. so what you end up with is music with serious subject matter that both looks and acts like a top 40 bop social issues in rap is harder to approach. i'm not going to act like music & politics should be separate, but it feels like a lot of rappers address social issues with all the subtlety of a massive 'water is wet' poster. (if you're not adding something new to the discussion, and not sharing your personal experience, why are you making this?) AbsurdistOtaku said: I've only listened to one track from Lil Pump (Gucchi Gang). Even when Kendrick Lamar's rapping about something like sex ("These Walls"), there's always something more complex behind it. in general, maybe the feeling you're getting is from staleness? artists rehashing the same things with different trap beats without adding anything new, diving deeper or applying a unique style to it |
Jokah said: Still haven't ran out of shitty takes on rap, eh? Listen, like I've said before, rap is cool music for cool people and I'm afraid you're not doing too hot on the cool factor. You don't like how every rap song is about pussy, money, weed? Well, that's too damn bad. It's not our fault you ain't 'bout that life. It's okay, I'm sure Hopsin will get out of his little depression and drop an album full of oh so deep and thought provoking songs soon enough, but until then you're gonna have to listen to some actual good rap. You know what? I'll drop some hot fire for you right here, because I'm nice like that haha. You're welcome. Yea it's cool but... in fact it's anything but cool. If you have the slightest knowledge of what is called "music", you should be able to discern that this type of riffraff shitty fuck is a literal insult to the mentioned general term 'music'. And rapping bout cash and cunt meant nothing other than insecurity and braggadocio. No one criticizes if you're in dat laif or anything remotely similar, but maybe you should enhance the execution, lyrics, melodicism, chords, MV, intelligence (yes, literal intelligence), and pretty much every other aspect of a music piece. Otherwise, you would make yourself look like an absolute fool, and it's beyond normal for people to interpret you as someone who was talentless and so broke, yet now got a lil money in hand n start to brag limitlessly like an ungrateful man child. That's all of it, my troll friend. |
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| @AbsurdistOtaku Yeah, no. I'm not sure if you responded to my post piece by piece to make replying to you as much of a drag as humanly possible, but I'm just not gonna bother with that shit, so I'm tagging you instead. Anyways, good on you for not considering yourself cool. Not that I ever said you did, but still, good for you! That being said, rap is in fact for cool people. It's always been made by and marketed for the people chilling at the higher end of the social ladder. You don't see any autistic loners going multi-platinum, because quite frankly, nobody wants to hear that shit. While you didn't specifically say ''pussy, money, weed'', those type of songs still make up for the vast majority of A, B, C and E and most of them have D in them (no homo) as well, which sums up pretty much the entirety of your list. Except F, but no one gives a F about those kind of songs. You never explicitly said you were a fan of Hopsin, but let's be real here, you are (lol). As for why your threads are filled with condescending people? I don't know. I'm rather humble myself, so I can't relate. @AxxLife That is factually incorrect, but I respect your right to remain willfully ignorant and will now proceed to drop some more heat specifically for you. https://youtube.com/watch?v=zfHhi6WdfDk&feature=youtu.be&t=35 @Preachee Classic case of turbo jealousy right here. Listen, you can hate on them all you want, but at the end of the day you're still the one bumping their shit, not the other way around. Be the change you want to see. If you could do better then you'd be the one balling right now, but you're not, and judging by your post it's safe to assume that you never will be. |
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| @AbsurdistOtaku and @Jokah I feel like this song blows both of your arguments away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCX8MATMq4 And who can forget? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTcRxPsoMo Song about sex by an loner anime weeb with 11 million views. |
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Ryuk9428 said: @AbsurdistOtaku and @Jokah I feel like this song blows both of your arguments away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCX8MATMq4 And who can forget? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTcRxPsoMo Song about sex by an loner anime weeb with 11 million views. that song by lonely anime weeb with 11 million views is pretty good |
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| I see we're making progress. It'll be a slow process to rehabilitate you from all the k-pop garbage your poor ears have been exposed to, but don't worry, we'll get there soon enough. Questionnaire said: D12, G-Unit, Shady, Aftermath, etc. It sure must be lonely being Eminem!Jokah said: It's always been made by and marketed for the people chilling at the higher end of the social ladder. You don't see any autistic loners going multi-platinum, because quite frankly, nobody wants to hear that shit. You mean like Eminem? I mean just look at the poor soul! So lonely... (´∩`) Ryuk9428 said: You can feel all you want, but you know what they say: facts don't care about your feelings.@AbsurdistOtaku and @Jokah I feel like this song blows both of your arguments away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCX8MATMq4 And who can forget? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTcRxPsoMo Song about sex by an loner anime weeb with 11 million views. Also, I'm pretty sure I revoked your permission to speak to me not that long ago and after hearing the shit you listen to I'm afraid you're not getting it back any time soon. With that out of the way, after all this talk about pussy, money, weed, it would be a crime to not post this classic banger. |
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| Oh and also this turbo classic banger. Almost forgot haha. |
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Jokah said: I see we're making progress. It'll be a slow process to rehabilitate you from all the k-pop garbage your poor ears have been exposed to, but don't worry, we'll get there soon enough. D12, G-Unit, Shady, Aftermath, etc. It sure must be lonely being Eminem! I mean just look at the poor soul! So lonely... (´∩`) Ryuk9428 said: You can feel all you want, but you know what they say: facts don't care about your feelings.@AbsurdistOtaku and @Jokah I feel like this song blows both of your arguments away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCX8MATMq4 And who can forget? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTcRxPsoMo Song about sex by an loner anime weeb with 11 million views. Also, I'm pretty sure I revoked your permission to speak to me not that long ago and after hearing the shit you listen to I'm afraid you're not getting it back any time soon. With that out of the way, after all this talk about pussy, money, weed, it would be a crime to not post this classic banger. Fine, its a fact that it blows your argument away. Also nigga, I can talk to whoever I want lmao. |
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Jokah said: @Preachee Classic case of turbo jealousy right here. Listen, you can hate on them all you want, but at the end of the day you're still the one bumping their shit, not the other way around. Be the change you want to see. If you could do better then you'd be the one balling right now, but you're not, and judging by your post it's safe to assume that you never will be. At this point I strongly believe you're simply a troll. But anyway your forum game post made me laugh (in a good way you might say), so thanks I guess. |
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Preachee said: That's fine. Like I told the other guy with bad takes on music: I respect your right to remain willfully ignorant.Jokah said: @Preachee Classic case of turbo jealousy right here. Listen, you can hate on them all you want, but at the end of the day you're still the one bumping their shit, not the other way around. Be the change you want to see. If you could do better then you'd be the one balling right now, but you're not, and judging by your post it's safe to assume that you never will be. At this point I strongly believe you're simply a troll. But anyway your forum game post made me laugh (in a good way you might say), so thanks I guess. Oh and you're welcome. |
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| I agree that most Rappers nowadays aren't really talking about much. Same old same old. Money, Guns, Drugs, Women. That's the mainstream. I bet if someone was dropping knowledge bombs on the microphone nobody would even care. "D) Killing people" - People are going to try them. People kill and steal. That's their way of warning people. People try to kill and rob them all the time so it would be a good idea to warn them. I come from the same type of background as alot of them so i'd know this very well. To me, mainstream Rap in these days is just a way to get Rich. Most of them are brain dead and don't desire any knowledge at all. Including most of the listeners. There's not much that's unique in the mainstream. |
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Water-sama said: I agree that most Rappers nowadays aren't really talking about much. Same old same old. Money, Guns, Drugs, Women. That's the mainstream. I bet if someone was dropping knowledge bombs on the microphone nobody would even care. "D) Killing people" - People are going to try them. People kill and steal. That's their way of warning people. People try to kill and rob them all the time so it would be a good idea to warn them. I come from the same type of background as alot of them so i'd know this very well. To me, mainstream Rap in these days is just a way to get Rich. Most of them are brain dead and don't desire any knowledge at all. Including most of the listeners. There's not much that's unique in the mainstream. And I will repeat the same thing I've told many people who say this... People trying to drop knowledge bombs should make a podcast on NPR. Music provides a physical experience. Music is, first and foremost, entertainment. The primary purpose of music is physical. Money, drugs, girls, they invoke physical emotions. Mainstream rap's purpose is basically to give you a feeling of the physical experience of the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Mainstream rap also happens to be good for partying and clubbing. So this means that mainstream rap's main purposes are to make you feel like a cool guy that's got lots of money and girls, or to hype you up for a party. Since a lot of guys want to feel cool and a lot of people want to party, this is why rap is so popular. That being said, I feel pretty cool listening to stuff like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsW72KIOd8U |
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| @Ryuk9428 That's like saying the band Tool shouldn't talk about Transcendence and humanity (which is knowledge) cause that's not what people want to listen to. Im just pointing out the fact that the majority of the mainstream rap scene is braindead. Its not unique at all. That's the point me and OP are making. "Knowledge" in rap was just an example. |
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| "bad" lyrics ≠ bad music Look at guys like playboi carti nobody gives a shit bout his lyrics cause his shit sounds like fire and thats good enough Also most people like myself enjoy all the talk about money drugs sex & killing |
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RealTheAbsurdist said: FacelessVixen said: Oh, it's you again. You just finally changed your forum avatar. I'm curious to know what your opinion is on the topic. Oh, you already know, or at least should be able to make an educated guess as to what I think about mainstream/pop-rap. Basically:  |
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FacelessVixen said: Oh, you already know, or at least should be able to make an educated guess as to what I think about mainstream/pop-rap. Basically: Oh. Sorry, I see a lot of users on this site, so I easily tend to forget whose post I've read and so forth. |
RealTheAbsurdist said: Ryuk9428 said: And I will repeat the same thing I've told many people who say this... People trying to drop knowledge bombs should make a podcast on NPR. Music provides a physical experience. Music is, first and foremost, entertainment. The primary purpose of music is physical. Money, drugs, girls, they invoke physical emotions. Mainstream rap's purpose is basically to give you a feeling of the physical experience of the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Mainstream rap also happens to be good for partying and clubbing. So this means that mainstream rap's main purposes are to make you feel like a cool guy that's got lots of money and girls, or to hype you up for a party. Since a lot of guys want to feel cool and a lot of people want to party, this is why rap is so popular. That being said, I feel pretty cool listening to stuff like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsW72KIOd8U Why can't lyrics be meaningful while being entertaining? Kendrick Lamar, I think, is the perfect example of a rapper who can balance meaningful lyrics with entertainment. How do meaningful lyrics not give a physical experience? Kendrick Lamar's really doesn't. I find his music exceedingly boring. I listened to one of his albums and couldn't get into any song on there. |
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RealTheAbsurdist said: Ryuk9428 said: Kendrick Lamar's really doesn't. I find his music exceedingly boring. I listened to one of his albums and couldn't get into any song on there. Which album of Lamar's did you listen to? Why did you find him boring? I ask, because he tends to vastly switch up his sound in each studio album. I don't really remember I was in high school when I listened to it. I want to say it was to pimp a butterfly, could've been good kid mad city though. One of those two. |
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