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Oct 11, 2019 3:24 PM

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As this content creator says; season 3 was rushed and studio Deen was busy with other contracted projects, so they had to pass the anime to a small studio, "March Jack".

https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1165347212580122624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


If this information is true and seeing the quality of the first episode, my heart is fully broken.

¿What do you guys think?
 
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Oct 11, 2019 7:31 PM
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Pactio said:
As this content creator says; season 3 was rushed and studio Deen was busy with other contracted projects, so they had to pass the anime to a small studio, "March Jack".

https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1165347212580122624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


If this information is true and seeing the quality of the first episode, my heart is fully broken.

¿What do you guys think?


I think the anime will be shit
 
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Oct 11, 2019 7:52 PM

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March Jack? I think he is talking about Marvy Jack:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/553/Marvy_Jack

Spice and Wolf with Brains Base, after that - typical outsource studio who helps larger studious with animation, backgrounds, etc.

Yeah, it seems legit. Same as OPM 2, not so much people in industry actually cares about quality of final product. And Arifureta example showed us that Japanese anime viewers will watch adaptation of popular source material (and buy blu-ray disks) even with horrible animation. So, you don't need even try to make anime adaptation something good.
 
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Even the manga is bad, it's not a big deal.
 
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I personally think the overall quality of the animation was good. The environments were all well animated and looked detailed but i have to agree with everyone else that the fighting scenes were poorly executed and the censoring of all the blood really comes out of nowhere and just feels so unnecessary. If they improve the fight scenes a bit and remove the White blood this can turn in to a good season despite its bad start.
 
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upwindspy said:
I personally think the overall quality of the animation was good. The environments were all well animated and looked detailed but i have to agree with everyone else that the fighting scenes were poorly executed and the censoring of all the blood really comes out of nowhere and just feels so unnecessary. If they improve the fight scenes a bit and remove the White blood this can turn in to a good season despite its bad start.

Maybe in the Blu-Ray edition it will be better.
 
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Rider9530 said:
upwindspy said:
I personally think the overall quality of the animation was good. The environments were all well animated and looked detailed but i have to agree with everyone else that the fighting scenes were poorly executed and the censoring of all the blood really comes out of nowhere and just feels so unnecessary. If they improve the fight scenes a bit and remove the White blood this can turn in to a good season despite its bad start.

Maybe in the Blu-Ray edition it will be better.


The Blu-Ray wont magically fix the fight scenes and the blood im afraid..
 
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upwindspy said:
Rider9530 said:

Maybe in the Blu-Ray edition it will be better.


The Blu-Ray wont magically fix the fight scenes and the blood im afraid..

I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.
 
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Rider9530 said:
upwindspy said:


The Blu-Ray wont magically fix the fight scenes and the blood im afraid..

I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping
 
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upwindspy said:
Rider9530 said:

I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping

I know that, but my main problem with this season is the censorship.
 
Oct 12, 2019 2:29 AM

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Animation was horrible in this first episode, so now we know the reason. I think that this franchise is going down with every season, so overall quality is poor.

Best thing would happen to the serie is give it an ending and close all the plot, manga is also going down in quality.
 
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Rider9530 said:
upwindspy said:


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping

I know that, but my main problem with this season is the censorship.


Absolutely. I agree. That was awful.
 
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Rider9530 said:
upwindspy said:
I personally think the overall quality of the animation was good. The environments were all well animated and looked detailed but i have to agree with everyone else that the fighting scenes were poorly executed and the censoring of all the blood really comes out of nowhere and just feels so unnecessary. If they improve the fight scenes a bit and remove the White blood this can turn in to a good season despite its bad start.

Maybe in the Blu-Ray edition it will be better.


How can they promote the BD with that kind of production on TV series?
 
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upwindspy said:
Rider9530 said:

I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping
evem if the score drop to 5..if japanese like it and buy the bd..it will still got another season..thats why alot of high score mal anime didnt got season 2 lol and if it get a season it will be super late..as long you not show me that japanese really hate this series..you can drop your "save the series"
 
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Ozen106th said:
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That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping
evem if the score drop to 5..if japanese like it and buy the bd..it will still got another season..thats why alot of high score mal anime didnt got season 2 lol and if it get a season it will be super late..as long you not show me that japanese really hate this series..you can drop your "save the series"


Ait ait my dude. Lucky for us that we have dudes who are sitting on so much knoweledge.
 
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Rider9530 said:
upwindspy said:


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping

I know that, but my main problem with this season is the censorship.


im waiting for the blu ray aswell. and they probably made this much sensor so people will buy the blu rays
 
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upwindspy said:
Rider9530 said:

I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping


(or the score Will just keep dropping) That's west rating
West rating doesn't count except Japan

All the west ratings of any shows are Futile , Useless , Not important Except Japan
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drakoneel said:
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I know that, but my main problem with this season is the censorship.


im waiting for the blu ray aswell. and they probably made this much sensor so people will buy the blu rays


Mostly that's the only way for Uncut censorship ,
They should just broadcast two versions of the same EPs on two channels One is censored and another Uncut

I remember some shows did that

The one that did it was High School DxD
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Ozen106th said:
upwindspy said:


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping
evem if the score drop to 5..if japanese like it and buy the bd..it will still got another season..thats why alot of high score mal anime didnt got season 2 lol and if it get a season it will be super late..as long you not show me that japanese really hate this series..you can drop your "save the series"


1000000% Truth! West ratings doesn't count but Some people still think that sadly :P
 
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The question is more why didn't the producers kept A-1 Pictures as the animation studio for this season?
 
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The question is more why didn't the producers kept A-1 Pictures as the animation studio for this season?

i heard the movie under performed so a-1 just dipped
 
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March Jack? I think he is talking about Marvy Jack:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/553/Marvy_Jack

Spice and Wolf with Brains Base, after that - typical outsource studio who helps larger studious with animation, backgrounds, etc.

Yeah, it seems legit. Same as OPM 2, not so much people in industry actually cares about quality of final product. And Arifureta example showed us that Japanese anime viewers will watch adaptation of popular source material (and buy blu-ray disks) even with horrible animation. So, you don't need even try to make anime adaptation something good.


i won't say the reason that they don't care it's the committee is asking them to work on unbelievable schedules so how do you expect them to do a better work in these circumstances also while OPM S2 being a downgrade from S1 but it wasn't bad it was fine.
 
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As a Sawano fan and someone who enjoyed the other seasons its a shame to see the show go down hill so much, especially considering how good it used to look.

I also can't imagine what deen were working on that was more valuable than this as well, unless it was the konosuba movie?
 
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March Jack? I think he is talking about Marvy Jack:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/553/Marvy_Jack

Spice and Wolf with Brains Base, after that - typical outsource studio who helps larger studious with animation, backgrounds, etc.

Yeah, it seems legit. Same as OPM 2, not so much people in industry actually cares about quality of final product. And Arifureta example showed us that Japanese anime viewers will watch adaptation of popular source material (and buy blu-ray disks) even with horrible animation. So, you don't need even try to make anime adaptation something good.

If only those Above actually gave the workers a reasonable Schedule.
OPM1 was only that well animated because they got a good Schedule.
The only ones who don't care are the Suits above.

More ppl there have to follow the example of the likes of Kyoani (even Toei cares).
 
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Just_A_ManBOi said:
Flair_Noble said:
The question is more why didn't the producers kept A-1 Pictures as the animation studio for this season?

i heard the movie under performed so a-1 just dipped

It's aniplex that dipped, not A-1.
 
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As a Sawano fan and someone who enjoyed the other seasons its a shame to see the show go down hill so much, especially considering how good it used to look.

I also can't imagine what deen were working on that was more valuable than this as well, unless it was the konosuba movie?

Konosuba movie is made by JC Staff, not Deen. They had to rush production for this season cuz Aniplex dipped, which led to most of the season needing to be outsourced which sucks because it doesn't have a good production schedule.

I'm also sad cuz this is my favorite part of the manga and it's when all the greatness happens.
 
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Bakusatsuou said:
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i heard the movie under performed so a-1 just dipped

It's aniplex that dipped, not A-1.

oh my bad i dont have ears when listening to news
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Bakusatsuou said:
Just_A_ManBOi said:

i heard the movie under performed so a-1 just dipped

It's aniplex that dipped, not A-1.

I know ANIPLEX dropped out because the movie bombed, but did Netflix pull out as well??Or was Netflix's contract with ANIPLEX and not Kodansha???
 
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It's aniplex that dipped, not A-1.

I know ANIPLEX dropped out because the movie bombed, but did Netflix pull out as well??Or was Netflix's contract with ANIPLEX and not Kodansha???

I think the contract was with Aniplex, not 100% sure tho
 
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upwindspy said:
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I meant that it would hopefully fix the censorship.


That would be too late if they want to save the series. They need to make changes and thats now or the score Will just keep dropping



There's censorship becouse apprently it has a different time slot then the other two seasons did . And Japan are strict anything before a certain time needs to be censored . And usually they air a uncensored version on a different channel.

And the steaming services such as Funimation and crunchyroll are given what they are given otherwise no streaming

 
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The only problem is cesnorship

I don't see any other problem. The animation looks fine to me. I could not see any difference compared to previous seasons

I'm happy it got more seasons and it better than noting.
 
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Judging from the first episode, I'd say the animation is pretty good. Let's see how it goes when they animate the more complicated fight scenes. I really don't get this hate beforehand though
 
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Deen has no experience with decent, story-based series. They bit more than they could chew, and now we are the ones suffering.
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Judging from the first episode, I'd say the animation is pretty good. Let's see how it goes when they animate the more complicated fight scenes. I really don't get this hate beforehand though

I have no idea what you are talking about. In the first episode there were mostly stills and re-used scenes where they just slash through the screen, without actual combat.
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Judging from the first episode, I'd say the animation is pretty good. Let's see how it goes when they animate the more complicated fight scenes. I really don't get this hate beforehand though


5 episodes so far and the animation is still garbage.

 
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If it was Deen animating it then arguably it would look even worse. I actually think the direction is a bigger issue than the animation. DoDoesn'tes help that the current arc sucks either.
 
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It's a simple solution, if you dont.like the animation and bitch about it every episode then dont watch it smh
 
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It's a simple solution, if you dont.like the animation and bitch about it every episode then dont watch it smh


And people like you are exactly the reason why series gets low scores and bad sales, which in turn gives it a bad rep and low chance of having sequels.
Currently (slowly) adding My Anime List (from word doc) to this site
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Not doing My Manga List, cause I have over 2800 read manga series (if counting one shot/ side stories = 3500+) will take way too long to do.
 
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blame the time slot for the white blood
 
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It's a simple solution, if you dont.like the animation and bitch about it every episode then dont watch it smh


And people like you are exactly the reason why series gets low scores and bad sales, which in turn gives it a bad rep and low chance of having sequels.


The West ratings and scores are Futile , No matter how toxic they are, they mean nothing to JP the Wests are 0 , and this Anti-Anime site here, is just laughable

JP is the only ones that matters , as long there's a huge fanbase in JP , More sequels will come , I don't know how the sales are in JP , I'm sure there's alot of buyers there

Like Fairy Tail keeps coming.. because it has a huge fanbase in JP and more keep coming , We got an ongoing Canon sequel Manga Fairy Tail 100 Years Quest taking place right after the final chapter because of JP fans not because of these West , I recommend it if you want to see FT going strong once again


+ a cross over manga with FT , Rave, Edens Zero
a FT game

The same with 7 Deadly sins , as long there's a huge fanbase in JP , More will come
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It is deen's fault, the same way opm 2 was jc staff's fault.
 
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It is deen's fault, the same way opm 2 was jc staff's fault.


It's Nakaba Suzuki's fault if NnT is bad tho.
 
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So you are telling me, that some monkey business Aniplex, which I will now google, after the side-story film failed (of course it would), pulled out and took with them A-1 Pictures, which has done incredible work on adapting this series so far, and then sold/threw it out to a studio like Deen... Which then threw it out to even less significant and experienced studio?!
Monkey business.
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It is deen's fault, the same way opm 2 was jc staff's fault.


It's Nakaba Suzuki's fault if NnT is bad tho.

I will not be talking about the original source, hopefully you are just some stupid salty brat with snarky commentary towards a work of art you do not like, but time will tell.
As for the animated series, so far there is almost entirely nothing wrong with the story. So far, what we have seen on screen, warrants no BLAME! on the original creator. This is clearly the studio fault, whichever studio is responsible at this point. Previous seasons were critically acclaimed and the masses loved them as well.

OH ANIPLEX IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY MONKEY BUSINESS MONKEY BUSINESS!!
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I've looked thru a few Japanese forum discussions on this season's SDS too tho, their complains weren't a teeny bit either...There were pretty long complaints...I doubt that this season's SDS might do well to get another season with this type of animation eventho I really enjoyed the manga...Really disappointed with Deen tho, they did so much better in terms of animations with Chuubyou Boys despite the story feeling underwhelming...sigh I dunno tho Imma read thru more Japanese forums...
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I've looked thru a few Japanese forum discussions on this season's SDS too tho, their complains weren't a teeny bit either...There were pretty long complaints...I doubt that this season's SDS might do well to get another season with this type of animation eventho I really enjoyed the manga...Really disappointed with Deen tho, they did so much better in terms of animations with Chuubyou Boys despite the story feeling underwhelming...sigh I dunno tho Imma read thru more Japanese forums...

If they change studio again, to someone responsible and actually experienced with high quality animation, then they will get all the sponsors they need for an adaptation. This is not a series problem, this is a studio problem.
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when it comes to anime adaptations usually the anime studio are not part of the ownership aka production committee anyway and looks like its the same case here
 
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So you are telling me, that some monkey business Aniplex, which I will now google, after the side-story film failed (of course it would), pulled out and took with them A-1 Pictures, which has done incredible work on adapting this series so far, and then sold/threw it out to a studio like Deen... Which then threw it out to even less significant and experienced studio?!
Monkey business.
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It's Nakaba Suzuki's fault if NnT is bad tho.

I will not be talking about the original source, hopefully you are just some stupid salty brat with snarky commentary towards a work of art you do not like, but time will tell.
As for the animated series, so far there is almost entirely nothing wrong with the story. So far, what we have seen on screen, warrants no BLAME! on the original creator. This is clearly the studio fault, whichever studio is responsible at this point. Previous seasons were critically acclaimed and the masses loved them as well.

OH ANIPLEX IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY MONKEY BUSINESS MONKEY BUSINESS!!



To me you seems by far more salty than me. (It's not that I really make fun of you hold your horses)

It's a trash tier shonen for me so I do not really care. It don't understand people saying it's that bad because story and characters were already awful that's all.
So for me it's author fault, his previous manga was original even if I don't really like it. But NnT is bad on all point except the art of the manga.
In fact I'm happy, NnT don't deserve a good staff, I prefer those guys on another animes.

My opinion.
 
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HaarWyvern said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
So you are telling me, that some monkey business Aniplex, which I will now google, after the side-story film failed (of course it would), pulled out and took with them A-1 Pictures, which has done incredible work on adapting this series so far, and then sold/threw it out to a studio like Deen... Which then threw it out to even less significant and experienced studio?!
Monkey business.

I will not be talking about the original source, hopefully you are just some stupid salty brat with snarky commentary towards a work of art you do not like, but time will tell.
As for the animated series, so far there is almost entirely nothing wrong with the story. So far, what we have seen on screen, warrants no BLAME! on the original creator. This is clearly the studio fault, whichever studio is responsible at this point. Previous seasons were critically acclaimed and the masses loved them as well.

OH ANIPLEX IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY MONKEY BUSINESS MONKEY BUSINESS!!



To me you seems by far more salty than me. (It's not that I really make fun of you hold your horses)

It's a trash tier shonen for me so I do not really care. It don't understand people saying it's that bad because story and characters were already awful that's all.
So for me it's author fault, his previous manga was original even if I don't really like it. But NnT is bad on all point except the art of the manga.
In fact I'm happy, NnT don't deserve a good staff, I prefer those guys on another animes.

My opinion.

Your opinion lacks proper argumentation and cannot be taken as anything more than a rant. It is better not to be done here, but be so kind the next time you would like to boldly state something as being "litter" or "awful" and provide reasons and, most importantly, weighted arguments as to why something is as bad as you describe it. Explain yourself in a clear and coherent manner.
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IT IS THEIR FAULT
If they couldn't deliver why take the project. Let a good studio take the job instead of ruining the adaptation for all the fans
Was so hyped for escanor vs meliodas ... ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
 
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Daniel_Naumov said:
So you are telling me, that some monkey business Aniplex, which I will now google, after the side-story film failed (of course it would), pulled out and took with them A-1 Pictures, which has done incredible work on adapting this series so far, and then sold/threw it out to a studio like Deen... Which then threw it out to even less significant and experienced studio?!
Monkey business.
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It's Nakaba Suzuki's fault if NnT is bad tho.

I will not be talking about the original source, hopefully you are just some stupid salty brat with snarky commentary towards a work of art you do not like, but time will tell.
As for the animated series, so far there is almost entirely nothing wrong with the story. So far, what we have seen on screen, warrants no BLAME! on the original creator. This is clearly the studio fault, whichever studio is responsible at this point. Previous seasons were critically acclaimed and the masses loved them as well.

OH ANIPLEX IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY MONKEY BUSINESS MONKEY BUSINESS!!


Incredible work? 2nd half of season 2 was a garbage rush adaptation with the fact that they ruined a great fight in episode... was it 22? i don't remember.

A-1 never shined for this manga, not that the material was that good, but still
 
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Hebi_op said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
So you are telling me, that some monkey business Aniplex, which I will now google, after the side-story film failed (of course it would), pulled out and took with them A-1 Pictures, which has done incredible work on adapting this series so far, and then sold/threw it out to a studio like Deen... Which then threw it out to even less significant and experienced studio?!
Monkey business.

I will not be talking about the original source, hopefully you are just some stupid salty brat with snarky commentary towards a work of art you do not like, but time will tell.
As for the animated series, so far there is almost entirely nothing wrong with the story. So far, what we have seen on screen, warrants no BLAME! on the original creator. This is clearly the studio fault, whichever studio is responsible at this point. Previous seasons were critically acclaimed and the masses loved them as well.

OH ANIPLEX IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY MONKEY BUSINESS MONKEY BUSINESS!!


Incredible work? 2nd half of season 2 was a garbage rush adaptation with the fact that they ruined a great fight in episode... was it 22? i don't remember.

A-1 never shined for this manga, not that the material was that good, but still

When we get to compare, the brilliance is obvious.
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