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Oct 8, 2:59 PM
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Well, I decided to drop this if they killed off a character by the end of the first episode.
 
Oct 8, 5:33 PM

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Lots of men in suits doing investigations, but why? I expected a bit more out of this anime but that's just me.


There's a mystery at the end, with Fumio's baffling fate, yet! Isn't the prospect of a mystery, coming in scarce and seemingly unrelated hints thrilling you?

Well, I decided to drop this if they killed off a character by the end of the first episode.


Dumbest reason ever to drop, mostly for the point I stated above. The core appeal of the mystery, is the reason why these absolutely outlandish suicides happen and what are behind them. The subordinate wasn't a crucially important character, so his early sacrifice to the plot doesn't particularly matter.
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Oct 8, 7:14 PM

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I have in the past enjoyed the Law and Orders or CSIs, but these bozos are no Jack McCoys. Mainly because the writers can't find a way to get across the importance of the various revelations in the episode, so our hard-boiled experienced LEOs react to goddamned everything like they're in Phoenix Wright. Nothing is too trivial to not be gasped at, stared at with a tortured look, and then the next course of action shouted out, even when it's exactly what they were expecting. The kind of thing Lennie Briscoe would respond to with a weary sarcastic quip because he's seen it all, instead has to be dramatized up to hell and back. I did glance quickly through episode 2 just to see if it improves, and it contains a "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" scene, so… this is writing that certainly thinks it's serious, but it is most definitely not.

It's also just plain slow, even for a procedural. Multiple scenes don't seem to have a real point. He meets with a dude in a bar who begins the conversation with "Well, here I am in a bar meeting my best friend who I've known since college." They then review the current situation, one Googles something, repeat that they're best friends, and leave. I guess we really needed someone to use Google. Or the meeting with his boss where he's told such helpful nuggets like "arresting a politician would be a scandal" and "You are law enforcement, and your job is to arrest people for commiting crimes." There's a base level of knowledge I think we can assume, people, and the more time we spend repeating shared knowledge, the less time we're spending on developing the story, which is already in pretty dire shape. And yes, the animation is indeed horrible
 
Oct 8, 7:21 PM
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I have in the past enjoyed the Law and Orders or CSIs, but these bozos are no Jack McCoys. Mainly because the writers can't find a way to get across the importance of the various revelations in the episode, so our hard-boiled experienced LEOs react to goddamned everything like they're in Phoenix Wright. Nothing is too trivial to not be gasped at, stared at with a tortured look, and then the next course of action shouted out, even when it's exactly what they were expecting. The kind of thing Lennie Briscoe would respond to with a weary sarcastic quip because he's seen it all, instead has to be dramatized up to hell and back. I did glance quickly through episode 2 just to see if it improves, and it contains a "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" scene, so… this is writing that certainly thinks it's serious, but it is most definitely not.

It's also just plain slow, even for a procedural. Multiple scenes don't seem to have a real point. He meets with a dude in a bar who begins the conversation with "Well, here I am in a bar meeting my best friend who I've known since college." They then review the current situation, one Googles something, repeat that they're best friends, and leave. I guess we really needed someone to use Google. Or the meeting with his boss where he's told such helpful nuggets like "arresting a politician would be a scandal" and "You are law enforcement, and your job is to arrest people for commiting crimes." There's a base level of knowledge I think we can assume, people, and the more time we spend repeating shared knowledge, the less time we're spending on developing the story, which is already in pretty dire shape. And yes, the animation is indeed horrible


Yeah, episode 1 just didn't rub me off the way i wanted it too for the most part. Episodes 2 and 3 are very large improvments in terms of writing and animation. It feels a lot less plain, bland and kind of boring as episode 1 had rubbed me off. I'm sure you will find atleast some enjoyment within the next two episodes. (especially episode 3)
 
Oct 9, 2:52 AM

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Well this is interesting. Haven't seen a thriller anime in a while and this looks like it has potential

 
Oct 10, 6:45 AM
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Is revoroot studio related with WIT or IG?
 
Oct 10, 7:09 AM

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I like it. Very intriguing, very mysterious. It has a certain subtlety about it that I like.
And Fumio... I didn't expect that, especially so early on. Did he actually do that of his own volition, or did he get too close to uncovering a truth somebody didn't want him to find out? Luckily we've been given the first 3 eps already, so that might be something we'll find out soon.
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Oct 10, 8:36 AM

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When you think someone is a main character but he dies in the first episode...... x_x
 
Oct 10, 8:47 AM
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Is revoroot studio related with WIT or IG?

No all these anime with motorcycle intro means that a producer of that anime is Twin engine and they just put company logo in that intro to show what studio is working on that adaptation
 
Oct 10, 1:40 PM

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sad death is sad wtf

i liked him too shit man
 
Oct 10, 6:21 PM

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That was really good, the writing seemed reminiscent of Psycho-Pass which is a plus, although it seemed like a lot of events happened in just the first episode. I think it could've benefited from a longer run-time with extended scenes to create atmosphere and establish the characters more, but I think it handled the actual story itself very well. The directing is also on point which was kind of expected. Good start, but I'm looking more forward to the MC and supporting characters' development from here on. That end was 5/5 though, I mean the rest of the episode also held my attention (for the most part at least), but I got the chills at that last part.

(also high key if Amazon keeps this up I think I'll officially like them over Netflix when it comes to anime)
 
Oct 11, 12:25 PM

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Intense and interesting start. I am definitely hooked.
 
Oct 11, 6:06 PM
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This anime is one of the most anticipated this season, since I like the police genre anime and mystery. This first episode did not disappoint me, the ending left me in shock. Damn it, poor Fumio. This case is very rare, it is wrapped in a great mystery. That Thriller environment it have is great.
"F" for Fumio. R.I.P.
 
Oct 12, 5:07 AM

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That ending was unexpected I hyped for the next episodes

 
Oct 12, 1:05 PM

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Took me way too long to finally get around to watching this, but this was definitely by far the most promising first episode this season. Hopefully it can keep this up.
 
Oct 13, 8:46 AM

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I never knew that Miles Edgeworth's badge was real.
 
Oct 13, 8:46 AM

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I was riveted. I love a good mystery. I was waiting for what happened to Fumio as soon as they separated.
 
Oct 14, 5:29 AM

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wew lads, a lot happened this episode, and that ending came out of nowhere. I was expecting a buddy mystery and one half of the buddy mystery is already dead! wtf?? How long has it been since an anime felt daring enough to kill a potential leading character early on? Feels like this is symptomatic of an industry long gone...

All these characters, all these weeb names I can't immediately commit to memory, all these events I've had a hard time keeping sorted in my head, but it looks like this will be a really good time.

OP is unorthodox and ED is really good.



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Oct 14, 10:02 AM

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Damn Fumio slow down why did ya have to do this to me at the 1st ep man I was just starting to like you.

Since we have to wait 3 weeks for the next episode,why not just watch an episode per week instead of all of them at once?
 
Oct 14, 2:35 PM
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1) They are prossecutors, not policemen. They shouldn't be out there on stake outs.


What you said make sense from a Western perspective. However, Japan doesn't work like that. Prosecutors in Japan have immense power in their hands. They can hold suspects in custody for days on their own without arresting them (i.e. without involving police). It is also prosecutors' duty to get a confession from the suspect in Japan, not the police. Better keep that in mind when you watch any legal TV shows or anime from Japan.
 
Oct 15, 5:34 PM
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wut havent learned all their names yet & he died already.
Pretty nice mystery pieces & suspense feel. But part with gps tracker install seemed cut out editing or missed a shot so it's confusing.
The New City info is also edited at completely random point, literally no lead-in/tie-in to stuff before or after. Director aint new (but did make psychopass2) so weird he messed up this much.
Lol 'best friend', at least pay him man.
There's so much talk of 'ruler' & ally of justice, Eevill in a serious crime drama by prosecutors? That might work on shounen hero wannabes, but it's even cringier here.
 
Oct 15, 9:30 PM

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Aw man. I was really digging Fumio's character. ;~; Too bad...

This is hella interesting though, can't wait to see how the story develops!
 
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I like the mystery and that bodies are falling left and right from the start. The music/art/animation is solid. The premise is not original, but it's smotheing rarely seen in anime so that makes it interesting.

What I don't like tough is the pacing of this first episode. Too many things happen that are not explained in detail. We get a pharmaceutical audit, a construction company director and dirty politician. The MC jumps from place to place and it makes little sense as a whole. All we know is that there is some conspiracy and people are being killed. This was so disappointing, I hope future episodes will make it up or else I'm gonna drop.
 
Oct 16, 3:11 PM
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Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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It's out on Amazon Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YQKYPXS

Yeah, this has thriller and suspense all over it. Seizaki is the main guy looking into a case when he discovers a strange document. I heard the show is made of several arcs so it this seems to be the One Drop of Poison one.

A lot of potential in this considering the thriller-suspenseful story for this.




Thank you so much for the link. I have been wanting to watch this show and hadn't realized it was on Amazon Prime.
 
Oct 19, 9:03 AM

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Can anyone please explain what was the prostitution talk about and how come Fumio killed himself? I tried re-watching the episode but am still unclear what happened.
 
Oct 21, 7:07 PM
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Yes, you have to wait till October 27/28. It was just an advanced streaming on Prime, this is not the first time they're doing this.
October 27/28 is when Episode 4 airs and then it follows up like every other anime.

Didn't hear (yet) that they will pull a Boogiepop here, so...


So when it actually fully starts airing on October 27/28, will it still be on Amazon Prime?
 
Oct 22, 10:30 AM
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Koito91 said:
Yes, you have to wait till October 27/28. It was just an advanced streaming on Prime, this is not the first time they're doing this.
October 27/28 is when Episode 4 airs and then it follows up like every other anime.

Didn't hear (yet) that they will pull a Boogiepop here, so...


So when it actually fully starts airing on October 27/28, will it still be on Amazon Prime?


Yep, Amazon Prime should be streaming it.


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Oct 27, 7:55 AM

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Good start. I'm excited to see where this goes from here.
 
Oct 28, 12:06 PM
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Episode one was awesome
 
Oct 29, 7:18 AM

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A good and interesting start! Was totally surprised by the ending, can't wait to see how the story will develop!
 
Oct 30, 2:11 AM
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Really dislike the number of hard cuts to black they're doing. Especially because of how long they last. It's jarring and throws off the flow of the show. Hopefully future episodes tone it WAY down.
 
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I found the first episode interesting, sometimes I'm into political dramas, movies, novels, etc. and there are times when I don't care for them at all. In this case, I knew someone was going to die but I wasn't expecting it to be Fumio. Honestly, I thought Seizaki was going to die since he started talking about his wife and kid. You never talk about family in movies or novels like that because it's almost always a death flag.

This show has potential and I hope it gets better.
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Nov 4, 12:24 PM

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Never before has Dvorak given me such chills, not to mention the otherwise twisted finale of the episode.

Off to a great start.
 
Nov 6, 5:37 PM

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Wow, they killed the sidekick already.
 
Nov 7, 11:09 PM

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I think this is the detective thriller I've been waiting for. The pacing is quick but easy to follow. It sometimes shows just flashes of scenes with no narration and you have to follow along based on visual cues. Love the dynamic of the prosecutor with his "best friend" journalist lol. Love the way this show makes characters feel like they have a lot of history despite the lack of long introductions.

I was convinced the bubbly newbie was going to be the protagonist, since that's how things usually go, but he's killed off instantly. God damn. I thought he would be the lighthearted element that's always there to crack jokes.... I accepted that kind of character as an inevitable trope for these types of stories and I'm impressed at the turn. The way the show introduced him, as if he was a constant element that I would be able to connect with more, just to rip it away. I actually said "oh shit oh shit oh shit" out loud when the episode ended.

Beautiful background art. I'm a sucker for well drawn cityscapes. Love the sound design. The low bass note black screen scene transitions really add to the atmosphere - I actually really liked those hardcuts. I am completely into the mood of this episode. It started off kind of bland when I thought the newbie was going to be the main focus but from the moment they discovered that nasty bloodstained page, the episode was fantastic.
 
Nov 10, 11:46 AM

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Holy shit. That ending.
Am I the only one who doesn't entirely understand what's going on, but is really interested anyway?
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Nov 11, 5:49 PM

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Damn, that ending was shocking. How and why? I don't understand why or the circumstances that led to it. Really intrigued.

I think the pace is a little fast, not so fast as in I can't figure out what's going on but I think I would've appreciated it more if they slowed down a bit to flesh things out a bit better.
 
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This one looks full of potential. Great first episode.
 
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