moeanao said: I'd argue that the belief that all lovers are selfish ego trippers that can't stand the idea of not being the centre of their love's world is not idealism, but misanthropic pessimism.I just have a hard time believing that people with open relationships truly love each other. Maybe because I'm very idealistic when it comes to love, and the thought of my partner even wanting to have sex with other people makes me feel sick. |
 It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| No thanks, I'm not a CUCK like some people here. (it's bolded and in all caps just to annoy the people here that don't like that word) A harem of catgirls would be nice though, but they can only belong to ME and no one else! |
Lost_VikingOct 4, 2019 8:13 PM
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Lost_Viking said: Yes you are.No thanks, I'm not a CUCK like some people here. (it's bolded and in all caps just to annoy the people here that don't like that word) A harem of catgirls would be nice though, but they can only belong to ME and no one else! |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| @Lost_Viking, ah but I ain't a cuck as long as I don't see her do it and she doesn't tell me. Cucks know and do nothing. |
-Kookie-Oct 4, 2019 8:32 PM
| These questions always amuse me. Particularly since I, like many others here grew up in a quasi-religious clusterfuck of a society that simply does not believe a person could be happy single. An open relationship is fine as long as you do not invite the State into your relationship and have children. I do not want to be tied down and I do not care what you do when I am not around, so you should not worry about what I do obviously. |
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| open relationship sounds too much work id rather focus all my love and attention to someone fully rather than divide it if i was with even suggested an open relationship, i would immediately be thinking of ways how to break up i just can't fathom the idea of sharing my woman just like i can't fathom the idea of sharing my icecream anyways, if it works for other people, then good for them |
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Whats-up said: A relationship to me is a commitment. A commitment that you are making with another person. If you're going to include a third party or several third parties, then it really loses that intimacy, it loses the factor of having something special with someone. It's kinda like "i'm just with you because I CAN'T walk away but I want to bang other people because you don't excite me anymore". I don't really care what people do with lives, but for me it's more of a issue with finding the purpose of it. You can just be single if you want to not be tied down and seek "freedom". I feel you, I really don't see the point either. I also wonder how it feels to have like... romantic feelings towards just one person, your so called "number 1 partner", and sexual feelings towards those other people you're with when in an open relationship. Because to me, those feelings are tied: I only want sex with people I love romantically and can't imagine how it's possible to separate your partners into a group of people you only wanna bang and then that "romantic" partner who exclusively enjoys your romantic aspect lol. If I spend enough time with someone and even share my body with them, I'm bound to develope some kinda feelings for them. However, like someone said, monogamous relationships end up failing most of the time as people fall out of love & excitement and start feeling caged or dull or just tired of the same old. Picking a partner and staying with that same one for your entire life is very rare. So I dunno, maybe open relationships are the key to happiness for some. Then again, you can fall out of love in those too. Overall human relationships and feelings can be very complicated and hard to explain so eh. I personally want my partner only to myself but, to each their own. I just wouldn't feel like there's any point being "with someone" if they acted romantic and/or sexual with others too. |
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nuttygardentree said: "monogamy is VERY unnatural"? wut? look, monogamy was already exist since the beginning of humankind history until today. according to the law of nature, "everything that's not natural will be destroyed by the nature itself". but both humankind and monogamy is still exist today. and if you look into any civilization recorded through history, the concept and practice of monogamy integrated to both society's laws and traditions.i dont think most people realise that monogamy is a very outdated social construct and VERY unnatural. the idea that we have to be tied to one person is COMPLETE bs and the only reason that we are so stuck-up about this is because society raised us this way. personally though im not a very sexual person so i don't really have a reason to be in an open relationship but im not opposed to the idea if my future boyfriend every brought it up. "harem", "orgy", etc. are the unnatural ones. why? cuz there was no society/civilization in the past who specifically put this into a law. harem was only a part of human tradition and "a tradition can't be applied globally/universally but to only a specific group/tribe". that's why monogamy is very and more natural than polygamy. why do you think that something "outdated" is bad and something "updated" is always good? lemme give you a simple example. just compare the 2010-2015 anime with 2015-today anime. seeing from your favourite anime list i can see there are more 2010-2015 anime on there than 2015-today anime. if you say, "they are two different things, you can't compare anime with monogamy concept". aren't both the anime and monogamy a product of social construct? i don't hate monogamy nor support polygamy. what i hate is when someone over-devoted to their partner for emotional support that ended in a codependency attitude. |
Nym_Oct 5, 2019 12:56 AM
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| If the both parties are cool with it, why not? I'm not gonna judge. |
| Gonna go ahead and give my own spiel on this since my situation is rather unusual. I've thought many times about dating sex workers since I get along with sex workers unusually well compared to how I get along with the average human. The main reason is that sex workers tend to have a very practical approach to life which I like. If I was to date a sex worker, I would be fine with her continuing to work as a stripper or prostitute while in a relationship with me. Mainly because I've come to deeply admire the work sex workers do. I've known several strippers who met rich guys that married them and had them setup for life financially but they continued stripping because they enjoyed the lifestyle and helping the men who come into these establishments. For those girls, stripping wasn't even work, it was more like charity that happened to pay them. Girls like these treat their customers more as friends, sitting with them for hours and talking to them. Most people do not value what sex workers do but I fully believe that countless men's lives have been saved from suicide because of what sex workers do. If I dated a sex worker then, I would be fine if she wanted to continue doing it. I owe it to her and to other men struggling with loneliness to not let my wishes for exclusivity get in the way. The main thing though is that I know how the pay for play world works and I know that for the most part, a sex worker can grind on, kiss, fuck a guy, provide a incredible GFE, and still be very loyal towards their boyfriends/husbands. Sex workers, I've noticed, either have extremely bad emotional control in which case, most won't work as one for long, or they have very advanced emotional control compared to other people. The main reason why I wouldn't want an open relationship unless it was with a sex worker is because I don't think most people are like that. With most people, if your girlfriend fucks another guy, that guy becomes a threat to your relationship/marriage. I don't care about the sex, I care about the threat. And I know that when most sex workers have sex with a guy, its not a relationship threat. But for most people, it is. |
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| It's a recipe for disaster, but then again, humans are not programmed to be monogomous in the first place iether which is sadly also a fact. |
 "I masturbate to anime girls! Do you wanna be my friend?" - Lost Pause aka Noble. 2017 |
Maneki-Mew said: There are no doubt men for whom monogamy is completely natural, but let's also be honest that for the majority that practices it, it's an act of restraint; it experiences a sexual urge towards others than the object of its fealty but restrains itself out of a sense of honor.nuttygardentree said: i dont think most people realise that monogamy is a very outdated social construct and VERY unnatural. the idea that we have to be tied to one person is COMPLETE bs and the only reason that we are so stuck-up about this is because society raised us this way. personally though im not a very sexual person so i don't really have a reason to be in an open relationship but im not opposed to the idea if my future boyfriend every brought it up. Both isn't true. Monogamy is as natural as polygamy for humans. Humans aren't that simple like other species and it's more dependened how they are wired individually. Also, even some birds of monogamous species prefer to live polygamous and vice versa. I have heard in house cats, there are some couples monogamous, even if they would have the choice to do not, because their bond is very strong, since they live together. And there are even male cats, who care for the kittens, they would never do that in the nature. So it's not that simple. Species and individuals adapt to their environment. Monogamy strengthens the bond between two individuals in particular, so they take better care of their children. Polygamy strengthens the bond of the group, since it has been normal that many people in the group procreate or have sex to bond with each other. Both is "natural" and as I said, it's very individualistic for humans. I really don't care about sex that much and expect the same of partner(s) (at least they shouldn't be the opposite), so I only would ever lead monogamous or a polyamor relationships, if happens to me, not an open one. Notwithstanding that no doubt a minority existence for which it comes natural and no restraint is necessary. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| the answer is yes and he's lying. It's not a difficult question for him at all. In his perfect world people only have sex in the missionary position and whip themselves afterwards because of the shame they felt during the act. Seiya said: Contrary to open relationships that don't necessarily hurt anyone, living at home with your parents and not working is something that actually harms society. I believe your lifestyle should be illegal. I'd send you to prison myself if I could. Don't care if you have a reason for it or if you don't hurt anyone, because I don't care about people as individuals. I only care about ideology, and my ideology says that unemployed people should suffer.I personally think that they should be illegal. Not so nice, is it. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
| I never saw it as a romantic gain, only a sexual one, for all parties involved. So I'm a bit iffy about doing it personally because they should go hand in hand for my committing relationship. But hey, don't let me stop you if you want to/are in one. |
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Railey2 said: the answer is yes and he's lying. It's not a difficult question for him at all. In his perfect world people only have sex in the missionary position and whip themselves afterwards because of the shame they felt during the act. Seiya said: Contrary to open relationships that don't necessarily hurt anyone, living at home with your parents and not working is something that actually harms society. I believe your lifestyle should be illegal. I'd send you to prison myself if I could. Don't care if you have a reason for it or if you don't hurt anyone, because I don't care about people as individuals. I only care about ideology, and my ideology says that unemployed people should suffer.I personally think that they should be illegal. Not so nice, is it. Nice try, but I don't live with my parents anymore. |
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Seiya said: scracth that part then rest goes .Railey2 said: the answer is yes and he's lying. It's not a difficult question for him at all. In his perfect world people only have sex in the missionary position and whip themselves afterwards because of the shame they felt during the act. Contrary to open relationships that don't necessarily hurt anyone, living at home with your parents and not working is something that actually harms society. I believe your lifestyle should be illegal. I'd send you to prison myself if I could. Don't care if you have a reason for it or if you don't hurt anyone, because I don't care about people as individuals. I only care about ideology, and my ideology says that unemployed people should suffer. Not so nice, is it. Nice try, but I don't live with my parents anymore. :) |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
I'm disabled. I'll never be able to work or drive a car. |
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| I know. I'm saying your lifestyle should be illegal because disability grosses me out. I'd rather have you punished for it, just like you want to punish people that don't have the sort of relationships that you want to see. Imagine that, the police breaking into your house and arresting you for being disabled. Great world to live in huh. Sounds almost tyrannical! |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
I have chronic pain. Nobody is "taking care" of me. Railey2 said: I know. I'm saying your lifestyle should be illegal because disability grosses me out. I'd rather have you punished for it, just like you want to punish people that don't have the sort of relationships that you want to see. Lol, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, but clearly you're trying to mirror my opinion of open relationships toward me, but the two are nothing alike. |
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Seiya said: Neither intrinsically hurt people, so they're both encompassed by Mills no harm principle. That's the relevant similarity, which you choose to ignore.I have chronic pain. Nobody is "taking care" of me. Railey2 said: I know. I'm saying your lifestyle should be illegal because disability grosses me out. I'd rather have you punished for it, just like you want to punish people that don't have the sort of relationships that you want to see. Lol, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, but clearly you're trying to mirror my opinion of open relationships toward me, but the two are nothing alike. You legitimately want to ruin peoples lives because you disagree with a personal choice they make that has no consequence for you or anyone really, which is tyrannical. You're a tyrant, Seiya, people like you bring pain to the world whenever they reach positions of power. I suggest you change your ways. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Railey2 said: Seiya said: Neither intrinsically hurt people, so they're both encompassed by Mills no harm principle. That's the relevant similarity, which you choose to ignore.I have chronic pain. Nobody is "taking care" of me. Lol, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, but clearly you're trying to mirror my opinion of open relationships toward me, but the two are nothing alike. You legitimately want to ruin peoples lives because you disagree with a personal choice they make that has no consequence for you or anyone really, which is tyrannical. You're a tyrant, Seiya, people like you bring pain to the world whenever they reach positions of power. I suggest you change your ways. I fail to see how being a "tyrant" is bad. I am superior to all. |
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Burnt_Cookie said: he isn't. I've seen him post for years, except for the very last post it's all perfectly consistent with the beliefs that he showed before. He actually thinks people in open relationships should be punished, that's how backwards he is, how little he respects other peoples lives, how much he wants to control others and how little he cares about the fundamental rules that a free society follows.@Railey2, I believe he's being a troll at this point. Best to stop giving him attention. Sad yes, troll no. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
As long as I refrain from doing things that cause the pain, it's not so bad, but I have to be careful to not put my arms in front of myself for more than 10 minutes, or else my back pain will start. |
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| @Railey2, well he's not really putting up a good defense or justification for himself. I agree with you statement earlier. People like that shouldn't be reaching for power. And in my opinion, neither should they have the privlage of voting. Best to ignore him either way, there's no helping from what I see. He seems pretty set in his ways. |
Fair enough. But you know, in the rare case that I bake cookies, I generally take them out of the oven before they burn. :P |
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| gahhh I knew it. lol gg, ima out of here. |
Railey2 said: Seiya said: Neither intrinsically hurt people, so they're both encompassed by Mills no harm principle. That's the relevant similarity, which you choose to ignore.I have chronic pain. Nobody is "taking care" of me. Lol, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, but clearly you're trying to mirror my opinion of open relationships toward me, but the two are nothing alike. You legitimately want to ruin peoples lives because you disagree with a personal choice they make that has no consequence for you or anyone really, which is tyrannical. You're a tyrant, Seiya, people like you bring pain to the world whenever they reach positions of power. I suggest you change your ways. Saying that polygamous relationships have no effect on others is IGNORANT to say the least. Do a quick google search before spouting out blatant lies. Also, people choose to have open relationships, but people don't choose to be disabled. Quit embarrassing yourself. |
geceyo said: As I said before, choice wasn't the relevant similarity here and wasn't why I picked this example.Railey2 said: Neither intrinsically hurt people, so they're both encompassed by Mills no harm principle. That's the relevant similarity, which you choose to ignore. You legitimately want to ruin peoples lives because you disagree with a personal choice they make that has no consequence for you or anyone really, which is tyrannical. You're a tyrant, Seiya, people like you bring pain to the world whenever they reach positions of power. I suggest you change your ways. Saying that polygamous relationships have no effect on others is IGNORANT to say the least. Do a quick google search before spouting out blatant lies. Also, people choose to have open relationships, but people don't choose to be disabled. Quit embarrassing yourself. What I dislike is people like Seiya playing tyrant and presuming that it's okay to punish people for things that by itself won't cause any harm to other people because he has a personal adversion towards everything that doesn't fit his dated puritan ideals. Maybe take a look at what Seiya is saying before you mindlessly defend him. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Railey2 said: You mean like how you condescendingly talk to every single person who has a different view than yours? But maybe that's just you not being able to put your personal views aside when discussing something.he has a personal adversion towards everything that doesn't fit his dated puritan ideals. Maybe take a look at what Seiya is saying before you mindlessly defend him. |
  “The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
Luchse said: only if those views would destroy peoples lives if you scale them up, then I'll be condescending. Everything else is fine.Railey2 said: You mean like how you condescendingly talk to every single person who has a different view than yours? But maybe that's just you not being able to put your personal views aside when discussing something.he has a personal adversion towards everything that doesn't fit his dated puritan ideals. Maybe take a look at what Seiya is saying before you mindlessly defend him. Like banning homosexuality, banning any type of relationship that doesn't harm people, legalizing child marriage, etc. You are aware that it's not "just" opinions, right? These things have real consequences in the real world. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Railey2 said: Alright fair enough and I'm glad you admit to doing it. If I were to call out someone else on this they would deny it 'till their deathbed.Luchse said: only if those views would destroy peoples lives if you scale them up, then I'll be condescending. Everything else is fine. You are aware that it's not "just" opinions, right? These things have real consequences in the real world.You mean like how you condescendingly talk to every single person who has a different view than yours? But maybe that's just you not being able to put your personal views aside when discussing something. Yes I am very well aware of it and we've already had a similar discussion on what happens if those ideas are implemented. |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
| I dont really care what two people decide is best for them in their relationship |
| 毎日, 日本語を勉強する |
| open relationships are not really something for me. I've been in a relationship with my partner for 8 years now. I'm still very happy about how thing work out. I couldn't imagine to put the same energy and passion to 15 other ppl at the same time (as a example) Besides fooling around with others is a little to dangerous for me and brings more disadvantages then win for me. I dont judge ppl who need such a kind of relationship. I mean at least they have a exciting love life and many experience. |
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| i dont know i just have an urge to kill any couple that walks close to me |
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| Not for me, but I see nothing wrong with it, if it's between two consenting adults. |
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| I don't care about it and I certainly wouldn't endorse it people who are easily tempted should not be trusted |
| Yes I was in a open relationship before I just haven't realized it at the time 11/10 would do it again. |
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