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Sep 29, 5:50 PM
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How can you not hate them?? They are the reason why good stories like Vinland Saga don't have more popularity. The massive success of shows like KnY or Boku no hero hurt the medium for the people who actually wanna see a mature story with decent characters.


Good job proving the point of the thread in your reply, lmao


Yes, that's what I intended but it's not just hating for the sake of hating. There is a reasoning behind it
 
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In a thread where that's literally not the subject of the thread, and you provide zero reasoning for it, it is hating for the sake of hating. Go to a thread where the quality of Demon Slayer is the actual subject and you're not proving the point of the thread in the thread, lol.
 
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In a thread where that's literally not the subject of the thread, and you provide zero reasoning for it, it is hating for the sake of hating. Go to a thread where the quality of Demon Slayer is the actual subject and you're not proving the point of the thread in the thread, lol.


Right, my mistake, the only answers that this post should have are "yes" or "no". Any other comment is not the "actual subject".
 
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angelk99 said:
How can you not hate them?? They are the reason why good stories like Vinland Saga don't have more popularity. The massive success of shows like KnY or Boku no hero hurt the medium for the people who actually wanna see a mature story with decent characters.
No one is stopping anyone from watching Vinland saga. U really wanna force ur tastes to teenagers. Vinland saga is available on the internet, berserk is available too so it's not like that Kny etc. are stopping VS or berserk to be on the internet.
 
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@angelk99

In a thread where that's literally not the subject of the thread, and you provide zero reasoning for it, it is hating for the sake of hating. Go to a thread where the quality of Demon Slayer is the actual subject and you're not proving the point of the thread in the thread, lol.


Also, if you don't understand my reasoning I'm not gonna write for you a 10 page essay explaining how entertainment industries work.
 
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It's quite easy to understand why the Boku no Hero/KnYs of the world do better than Vinland Saga, more mass appeal (regardless of quality).
 
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It's quite easy to understand why the Boku no Hero/KnYs of the world do better than Vinland Saga, more mass appeal (regardless of quality).


Yes, but you didn't seem to understand my reasoning behind "The massive success of shows like KnY or Boku no hero hurts the medium". maybe my english is too bad I don't know lol
 
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Now that Demon Slayer has grown so popular and even became so highly rated, will it become the next anime that will always be called generic, "trash", and overrated, and liking it will be called a "normie" thing?

Now people who have it in their favourites will be called out for having "trash taste" in anime, for liking Demon Slayer, an actually good anime?

This happens most of the time when an anime becomes so popular.

I've already seen many judging others because they like Demon Slayer, like calling them "kny tards, low IQ kids", calling the anime the most overrated anime ever etc. So is this going to be the new trend now, to hate on the anime and those who actually found it really good and rated it high?
Good shows with a "banal" plot that are famous got hated "CUz iT's so cLIché", just BNHA or KnY are perfect examples, sadly in mal a lot of people think that a unusual plot poorly done is better than a simple plot done freaking good
 
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@angelk99

I simply disagree with the premise that that hurts the medium. I do agree that there is a non-quality reason that shows like Vinland are not as popular/mainstream as shows like BnHA/KnY.
 
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I simply disagree with the premise that that hurts the medium. I do agree that there is a non-quality reason that shows like Vinland are not as popular/mainstream as shows like BnHA/KnY.


Oh, well, that's another thing I totally respect. You said that I gave zero reasoning that's why I thought you didn't get my point.
 
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angelk99 said:
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I simply disagree with the premise that that hurts the medium. I do agree that there is a non-quality reason that shows like Vinland are not as popular/mainstream as shows like BnHA/KnY.


Oh, well, that's another thing I totally respect. You said that I gave zero reasoning that's why I thought you didn't get my point.


I understood your point just fine, just that it read more like it read more like a two line generic critique of the show rather than a real point. It felt rather out of place considering the thread. I do think there's a pretty worthwhile discussion to be had on why things are mainstream, but phrased in such a way that it bashes on KnY fans in a thread that's about whether KnY is about to be the new hate baby of anime fans, well...
 
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Name one thing that is popular without a hater. There's none. The more popular something is, the more vocal the hater become.
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"They might bash me for liking a series because they are elite and whatnot" Why do you care? These aholes will be everywhere, preaching their bullshits because they have nothing to do in life. No one is an expert in the damn internet. Just avoid giving two shits about others opinions.
 
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How can you not hate them?? They are the reason why good stories like Vinland Saga don't have more popularity. The massive success of shows like KnY or Boku no hero hurt the medium for the people who actually wanna see a mature story with decent characters.
talk for yourself at least. I like a "mature story" as much as the next guy but every genre / demography has its gems. Vinland Saga is a great seinen as Demon Slayer is a great shonen.
 
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Honestly who cares. They can hate till the cows come home for all I care. If they hate the show for their subjective reasons then I can respect that but if they hate KnY fandom because the anime's a hit and their fans are hyped about it then why should I care. Why should anyone care?
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Yeah probably, I mean every anime has haters no exception there's always a group of people no matter how small the popularity of the anime. I myself don't really care for KnY but honestly why should KnY fans care about what people dislike the anime think about it and why should people that dislike the anime care about KnY fans think about it.

Nothing will ever be accomplished by hating on an anime actively anyway, fans of said anime will love their anime no matter what and wasting your time defending your anime for these haters won't make them start to like the anime or stop their shenanigans either. People should just not care xd.
 
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Nostalgik said:
angelk99 said:
How can you not hate them?? They are the reason why good stories like Vinland Saga don't have more popularity. The massive success of shows like KnY or Boku no hero hurt the medium for the people who actually wanna see a mature story with decent characters.
talk for yourself at least. I like a "mature story" as much as the next guy but every genre / demography has its gems. Vinland Saga is a great seinen as Demon Slayer is a great shonen.


Shonens can have a mature story. Look at FMA or jojo's. Even Naruto is more mature than KnY. Maybe this will change in the upcoming seasons. I don't know. But right now KnY is very average.
 
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Let them stay salty.
 
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angelk99 said:
Nostalgik said:
talk for yourself at least. I like a "mature story" as much as the next guy but every genre / demography has its gems. Vinland Saga is a great seinen as Demon Slayer is a great shonen.


Shonens can have a mature story. Look at FMA or jojo's. Even Naruto is more mature than KnY. Maybe this will change in the upcoming seasons. I don't know. But right now KnY is very average.
They definitely can have mature stories, but that depends on what you consider "mature". I think Kimetsu nails themes of humanity, family and companionship overall very well, as well as FMA or JoJo handle their themes imo Just because the show presents them in a more formulaic way in its >FIRST< season, it doesn't mean it's any less "mature" than other shounen (stories written with many of the same messages and target audience in mind)
 
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Now that Demon Slayer has grown so popular and even became so highly rated, will it become the next anime that will always be called generic, "trash", and overrated, and liking it will be called a "normie" thing?

But it's just generic shounen with better visuals, duh.
Can't explain that to some 20y kid with 8.61 mean score, duh.

Actually... why plebs always make threads like this?
You're ridiculous lol.

Yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're one of those people who judge people by their preferences and believe they are better than others.
You are so sad.

But I found it really funny how you believe you're so mature because you're a few years older, with an attitude like this. Made my day.

BTW, using mean score as an argument is the dumbest thing you can do. Good job. Bashing on someone for actually enjoying what they are watching. Really mature behavior.
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"They might bash me for liking a series because they are elite and whatnot" Why do you care? These aholes will be everywhere, preaching their bullshits because they have nothing to do in life. No one is an expert in the damn internet. Just avoid giving two shits about others opinions.

I don't really care about them or what they say actually. It's just that simply knowing that there are people like this can be annoying.

But that's all to it.
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probably
the elitists are always there who would say "There are lots of hidden gems which are underrated we will appreciate them but not you,top 20"
 
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Don't worry. MHA is coming soon
 
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BTW, using mean score as an argument is the dumbest thing you can do. Good job. Bashing on someone for actually enjoying what they are watching. Really mature behavior.


Yes. As stupid as dismissing others opinion just because the other person scored a serie with 5 or less... Oh wait....
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I gave it a relatively high score despite the generic story.
Pros:
- Peak level animation in the entire anime industry
- Great soundtrack
- Lovable and adorable characters
Cons:
- Occasional Poor direction
- Mediocre beginning
- Doesn't try anything unique as a shonen, still has the occasional backstory power asspull
- Trying to hard to squeeze in cliffhangers.
- Plot points that feel forced and don't build anything with the story nor have any logical reason on why they exist.

However, the pros are strong enough to outweigh the cons. I find a lot of scenes funny and others tense and the show is just overall enjoyable despite the evident problems.
I think simplicity can be good, Kimetsu No Yaiba embodies this.

On topic: I think people complain and nitpick about my cons, so they huddle into a group and try to act cool and respect another who has the same perspective as them. It's human instinct to gather as a group and try to be dominant over the other.
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Yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're one of those people who judge people by their preferences and believe they are better than others.

Except I didn't say anything about my preferences.
I only said that your scores come cheap.

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Yes. As stupid as dismissing others opinion just because the other person scored a serie with 5 or less... Oh wait....

But honestly, I feel like I overrated many shows, so it's almost 7.5 but... 8.6+?
This is already 8-10, not your usual 7-10.
 
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Yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're one of those people who judge people by their preferences and believe they are better than others.

Except I didn't say anything about my preferences.
I only said that your scores come cheap.

Rhapsody- said:
Yes. As stupid as dismissing others opinion just because the other person scored a serie with 5 or less... Oh wait....

But honestly, I feel like I overrated many shows, so it's almost 7.5 but... 8.6+?
This is already 8-10, not your usual 7-10.


I don't see what's wrong with having a high mean score.

I'm just simply enjoying what I'm watching(well, most of the time).

Does it hurt anyone? Does it ruin someone's life? I doubt it.
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Still no one can explain why this show is "generic" or the story is bad?

Is it that hard..? Surely if it was a generic shounen it must have typical pitfalls that can easily be exposed.. It must've had a generic martial arts tournament arc, and a screaming MC that is the most powerful guy in the show. Surely his goal is to be the strongest evva!! Like all the other generic protagonist. There should also be a huge list of girls for his harem or he should be a beta male that is afraid of women. Side characters must have been tossed aside and gotten no backstory/development as well.

Wait a minute.. None of this applies to this show..?
 
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Kimetsu no Yaiba is already the current biggest thing so I'm glad to finally finish watching such a great show and I'm not sure if other anime studio would try to get to Ufotable level of animation. Even if berserk can get this level of animation I'd still doubt it can reach this level of popularity.
 
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Everyone won't gonna like what u like.
Don't think like u do.
Don't hype like u do.
Don't polite like u do.
Don't praise like u do.
So don't fcking care about them. And just ignore them. They are more pitiful and annoying than what they call annoy.
 
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Still no one can explain why this show is "generic" or the story is bad?

Is it that hard..? Surely if it was a generic shounen it must have typical pitfalls that can easily be exposed.. It must've had a generic martial arts tournament arc, and a screaming MC that is the most powerful guy in the show. Surely his goal is to be the strongest evva!! Like all the other generic protagonist. There should also be a huge list of girls for his harem or he should be a beta male that is afraid of women. Side characters must have been tossed aside and gotten no backstory/development as well.

Wait a minute.. None of this applies to this show..?


Explaining why an anime is generic?
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Yes, all you fans will be attacked by demonic haterz!! Serves you right Demon Slayer fans!!

Victim mentality through the roof lol


Indeed. The circlejerk in this thread is hilarious.

Look at the darn score. It's as close to universally loved as can get in a free universally accessible service. As a matter of fact, the few criticisms I see are due to 2 characters and their strident performances.

Grow a skin ffs. Not everyone will ever like what you like.
 
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Don't know about others but I'm definitely close to becoming a hater if the fans don't stop coming up to me asking why I dropped it and then answer my question about why should I watch it with simple words like "cuz it's amazing". So goddamn fucking tired of them.
 
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Don't know about others but I'm definitely close to becoming a hater if the fans don't stop coming up to me asking why I dropped it and then answer my question about why should I watch it with simple words like "cuz it's amazing". So goddamn fucking tired of them.

I know what you feel, but you should definitely give it another chance cuz it's amazing.
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@-aincrad- So you're just trolling me at this point huh? Fine I get it, I won't waste my time on this show again :P
 
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@-aincrad- So you're just trolling me at this point huh? Fine I get it, I won't waste my time on this show again :P


It wasn't really trolling, it was just meant to be a simple joke, don't take it so seriously :D

I agree that saying simple things such as "cuZ itS AMAzInG" is just stupid. You can't just convince someone with something like that, mainly if that person dropped the anime to start with, like you did.
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-Aincrad- said:
l_viha said:
@-aincrad- So you're just trolling me at this point huh? Fine I get it, I won't waste my time on this show again :P


It wasn't really trolling, it was just meant to be a simple joke, don't take it so seriously :D


Don't worry, I wasn't taking it seriously.
 
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Hahaha, you know, i have the same feeling when i read guys who love One Piece, The Promised Neverland, My Hero Academia and stuff.
In another side, i'm loving some strange mangas.
If if i have to care about what the others think about my stuff (until it's legal stuff hey ! :p), i would hjave never finished on MAL !
 
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Now that Demon Slayer has grown so popular and even became so highly rated, will it become the next anime that will always be called generic, "trash", and overrated, and liking it will be called a "normie" thing?

Now people who have it in their favourites will be called out for having "trash taste" in anime, for liking Demon Slayer too?

This happens most of the time when an anime becomes so popular.

I've already seen many judging others because they like Demon Slayer, like calling them "kny tards, low IQ kids", calling the anime the most overrated anime ever etc. So is this going to be the new trend now, to hate on the anime and those who actually found it really good and rated it high?


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Esquirtit said:
Yes, all you fans will be attacked by demonic haterz!! Serves you right Demon Slayer fans!!

Victim mentality through the roof lol


Indeed. The circlejerk in this thread is hilarious.

Look at the darn score. It's as close to universally loved as can get in a free universally accessible service. As a matter of fact, the few criticisms I see are due to 2 characters and their strident performances.

Grow a skin ffs. Not everyone will ever like what you like.


Don't see how you can say that it's close to being universally loved when we get an "iT's OvErRaTeD" thread on an almost daily basis.
 
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There will always be people hating on something popular but I don't think it will reach the same level as SAO. Has KnY reach BnHA popularity level yet or has surpass it?
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There will always be people hating on something popular but I don't think it will reach the same level as SAO. Has KnY reach BnHA popularity level yet or has surpass it?


Of course far from being as popular as MHA, but KnY is far more popular now, than MHA was back in 2016 while it was airing. I'm not saying it from experience, I just heard it from others, that MHA didn't leave an impression like this on fans. So it has a chance to surpass MHA's popularity eventually.
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-Aincrad- said:
Gorochu said:
There will always be people hating on something popular but I don't think it will reach the same level as SAO. Has KnY reach BnHA popularity level yet or has surpass it?


Of course it's not far from being as popular as MHA, but KnY is far more popular now, than MHA was back in 2016 while it was airing. I'm not saying it from experience, I just heard it from others, that MHA didn't leave an impression like this on fans. So it has a chance to surpass MHA's popularity eventually.
i think it's already as popular as MHA, the official twitter acount of KnY has 550k followers. And it's just the first season, while MHA's official twitter with its 3 season is only at 400k.
 
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Oh because demon slayer fans are very cool
I have never seen a more deluded fanbase. I literally ruined the anime for me to see people calling it
The greatest shonen of all time
Best anime of 2019
Or calling episode 19 the greatest episode of all time
The anime is good yes but it is so overrated. No way in hell it deserves to be above anime like code geass or death note (i am sorry it is not a matter of opinion since we are talking about ratings not prefferences)
I hope people will calm down like they did with bnha cause honestly my hero has 2 season that are superior to demon slayer season 1

I know KnY fans are not saints either

I'm just gonna copy what I replied to someone else

A dude on YT said this, and it's really true.

"The more popular an anime becomes, the larger the fan base becomes. The larger the fan base becomes, the more weirdos in the fandom with louder voices."

KnY is no exception either. It has weird fans, like any other popular anime, but this is not even the topic of the thread.

Nux said that
He was 100% right . Still as a fan the only 4 fanbases that were deluded were naruto (and i am a naruto fan) , my hero, demon slayer and onepunch man
 
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I'm just simply enjoying what I'm watching(well, most of the time).

You're enjoying everything from 6/10 to 10/10 (and 7/10 is already "good"), so stop talking bullshit.
They don't teach math in school these days or what?
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I'm just simply enjoying what I'm watching(well, most of the time).

You're enjoying everything from 6/10 to 10/10 (and 7/10 is already "good"), so stop talking bullshit.
They don't teach math in school these days?

Oh so you're one of those, who always want to have the last word.
I'm just gonna ignore you. Have a nice day.
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Of course it's not far from being as popular as MHA, but KnY is far more popular now, than MHA was back in 2016 while it was airing. I'm not saying it from experience, I just heard it from others, that MHA didn't leave an impression like this on fans. So it has a chance to surpass MHA's popularity eventually.
i think it's already as popular as MHA, the official twitter acount of KnY has 550k followers. And it's just the first season, while MHA's official twitter with its 3 season is only at 400k.

Oh I didn't know that.

Well, considering how popular the anime got on twitter after episode 19, I'm not surprised.
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Kamiyan3991 said:

You're enjoying everything from 6/10 to 10/10 (and 7/10 is already "good"), so stop talking bullshit.
They don't teach math in school these days?

Oh so you're one of those, who always want to have the last word.
I'm just gonna ignore you. Have a nice day.

Did you just realize that every 6+ is positive?
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Now that Demon Slayer has grown so popular and even became so highly rated, will it become the next anime that will always be called generic, "trash", and overrated, and liking it will be called a "normie" thing?

Now people who have it in their favourites will be called out for having "trash taste" in anime, for liking Demon Slayer too?

This happens most of the time when an anime becomes so popular.

I've already seen many judging others because they like Demon Slayer, like calling them "kny tards, low IQ kids", calling the anime the most overrated anime ever etc. So is this going to be the new trend now, to hate on the anime and those who actually found it really good and rated it high?


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Hating on popular stuff has always been a trend in the anime community. That's just the way it is I'm afraid

That said the massive score difference between the manga and the anime kinda indicates that a lot of people are getting caught up in the hype presumably because of the animation first and foremost. Not that that isn't a valid positive of course but looking at other anime over the years that end up being very trendy while they're airing, they usually come back down to earth more and more as the months and years go on after they've finished airing
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