traed said: Themousen said: Sentence length doesn't mean anything In a murder, the victim is dead, they doesn't suffer anymore In case of a rape, the victim is traumatized pretty much for their entire life and will keep aftermaths, they suffer more than a murder victim in a way That's why rape could be considered somehow worse than murder, at least in my point of view Ironically attitudes like yours is actually part of the cause of an increase in suffering from rape because it perpetuates this idea they are eternally tainted and will always be a victim of the worst thing and then they may even hold that like an identity and it gives a message they are better off dead and helps drive them to suicide. wow calm down I just said it's my personal opinion, I wouldn't act like that in front of a person who's being raped Raped people needs support for what they went through, because rape can really destroy someone I don't think you can ever get over that moment, or at least completely, but rape victims are also really courageous persons for "getting over it", if I could phrase it like this. Being raped doesn't give you a "victim" sticker on your forehead, like an identity you said, it'd be useless and kinda stupid to think like that. You're still the same person you were before, but you suffered a major trauma and you need help and time to work on it. However I can't say if all victims can, indeed, beat that trauma and live a normal life again. So what happens for these people ? They have to ingest a tons of pill to be stable again, in the worst cases that makes them like brainless zombies completely dependant to these medicaments ? Or a person will have to live their entire life, often entire decades, with that huge amount of pain and suffering that won't go away ? Is it really a happy life that deserves to be lived ? Noboru said: Themousen said: Sentence length doesn't mean anything In a murder, the victim is dead, they doesn't suffer anymore In case of a rape, the victim is traumatized pretty much for their entire life and will keep aftermaths, they suffer more than a murder victim in a way What other criterion than average/typical sentence length would you use to compare the severity of a type of felony, then? Also, how do you know that a rape victim suffers more than a murder victim? Besides, what about the affected people? I believe that rape or any form of sexual abuse or just unpleasant touchings are way more relateable to most people than murder cases which explains (aside from the misguided stereotype that a child raper would exclusively feel sexual attraction to children) why the latter is even romanticized while the former for the most part just detested. But I doubt anyone would pick the murderer over the child rapist if they actually had lost a love one and had to pick between them. That only a few people here seem to still have an intact self-preservation is what makes positions like yours more dangerous; compare what traed wrote. Flevalt said: Doesn't seem misplaced to me. Fair enough, then.Get out with that misplaced terminology. She is a frequenter of certain online places. I'm not going to spell it out in plaintext. That's why we call that opinions. Mine doesn't have to stick with yours and vice-versa. And I don't think my opinion is wrong, neither yours by the way. They just differ, but if you don't agree with mine, don't just say that my pov is dangerous. Also, how do you know that a rape victim suffers more than a murder victim? Because the murder victim is dead. While the rape victim is still alive, and still suffers for what happened. What other criterion than average/typical sentence length would you use to compare the severity of a type of felony, then? My personal judgment. Sentence length for the same crime already differs within the countries around the world, so I wouldn't call that an absolute fact. Bbut I agree with you on the point of the affected people. Of course, losing someone will be harsher for the victim's family and friends. But I prefer to think about the victim themselves. Aren't they the "main character" ? Also, I want to state again that I wouldn't date a cold blooded murder either, I said it would depends of the circumstances, even if a murder is always a terrible thing. But yeah, I maintain my point of view, I'd NEVER date a child predator, but I'd date or, maybe, fall in love with a murderer |
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